Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 6, Day 2

As the football fraternity still attempts to digest Germany’s 7-1 drubbing of Brazil, Holland and Argentina prepare for action in the second semi-final. Both sides made their way into the last four with narrow wins – the South Americans squeezed past Belgium with a third 1-0 win in four matches, whilst the Dutch required spot-kicks to finally get the better of Costa Rica:

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Mascherano, Biglia; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuaín

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi; Kuyt Wijnaldum, De Jong, Blind; Sneijder; Van Persie Robben

Alejandro Sabella makes two alterations from his quarter-final line-up. At left-back, Marcos Rojo returns after serving a one-match suspension, whilst in midfield, Benfica’s Enzo Perez is afforded his first start of the tournament at the expense of the injured Angel di Maria. Up front, Sergio Aguero only makes the bench after missing the last two through injury.

Lionel Messi’s Fantasy owners will be hoping for a return to form after the forward delivered just a single assist over the last two matches. Gonzalo Higuain came to the rescue last weekend and, having opened his account for the campaign with a sweetly-taken winner against Belgium, will be in buoyant mood for tonight’s encounter. The rest of Sabella’s side need to step up, though – aside from Messi and Higuain, no Argentina player has had a hand in more than one goal thus far.

After failing to find a way past Keylor Navas last Saturday evening, Louis Van Gaal will be desperate for his side to return to the form that saw the Dutch net 12 times in their first four fixtures. The Holland boss makes just once change from the weekend, bringing in fit-again Nigel de Jong for Memphis Depay, with Wesley Sneijder moving forward into the role in “the hole” in a 3-4-1-2.

Robin van Persie has recovered from a stomach bug, then, and the United man, along with Arjen Robben, will be key to their side’s progress. After scoring three goals apiece in the opening couple of group games, the duo have hit a drought – the Bayern man has managed a pair of assists over the last three matches, whilst Van Persie has blanked in both his subsequent appearances.

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  1. the axolotl
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    Great tackle aston villa's ron vlaar

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  2. GunsnRoses
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    FTW

    Barca forward owned by Villa center back 😉

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  3. LewanGOALski
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    Vlaar is a beast tonight. I also guess that he's wrapping points as hell. Anyone with him?

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    1. VougieDipond
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      got rid cos I thought he was injured

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  4. MJ6987
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    How good is Messi actually?

    Obviously he very good. But, how much of it is down to the fact that Barca's team is completely built around supplying him?

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    1. MJ6987
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      I mean, for example, is he *that* much better than Robben?

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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        Yes. Messi is widely regarded as one of the all time greats, if not THE all time great. It's not even close.

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        1. MJ6987
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          I don't see him in the same class as Maradona.

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      2. Mr Sarcastic
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        Robben has been great today....

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    2. VougieDipond
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      and Spanish defenders stand and watch him

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      1. MJ6987
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        The poor quality of the Spanish defences is another factor for sure. One word - Soldado.

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        1. VougieDipond
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          lol exactly. he needs half an hour on the ball.

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      Have you noticed that the reason that he doesnt get injured is that he has the time to look around, rather than always stare at his own feet.

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
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        It's quite unbeliveable really.

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  5. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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    LvG really has set this side up so well. They particularly look solid at the back. I'd like to go into next season woth a couple of Utd defenders.

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    1. MJ6987
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      Probably 1. But it's finding the one who's going to be nailed on.

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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        Nailed-on-ness is what puts me off a 2nd. I'm pretty confident on Shaw. But the rest seem to be little more than hunches. Would be good if he played 5 at the back as you'd think Jones would at least be 1 of them.

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    2. LewanGOALski
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      DDG and maybe a defender - depending on who, how nailed on and for how much

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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        Good point. Didn't think of DDG. Him and Shaw for me then I reckon.

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  6. Ginkapo FPL
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    Berbilly, Can you send me a link to fpl as archived a few weeks ago? I know you are au fait with these things.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      It's still up, just go to an old url.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
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        Cheers, thats a bit silly.

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  7. Mr Sarcastic
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    Messi back to 3. Why are they so cruel 🙁

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  8. Wild Rover
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    😆 Nice header

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  9. VougieDipond
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    should of stuck with Hummels. last time I ever listen to anyone on here

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    1. GreenWindmill
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      *have

      Again 😉

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      1. VougieDipond
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        Scottish accent. "Shoulda stuck" is what I would say lol

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        1. GreenWindmill
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          That works 😀

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  10. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    Better from holland... Controlling things

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  11. FPL Daniel
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    Comeee onnnnn Robbennnn!!!

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  12. FPL Daniel
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    KjH warming up

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  13. r0nh
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    3rd best player in the world?

    Robben?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      Suarez

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      1. Declan
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        ^this

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      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        He's disqualified from any list

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          Even top 10 cannibals?

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          1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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            Dracula
            Hannibal
            Suarez
            Tyson

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    2. r0nh
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      Ozil, Sanchez & Ramsey would be in the top 10.

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    3. Wild Rover
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      Ronaldo

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    4. VougieDipond
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      Downing

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    5. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      Messi
      Ronaldo
      Bale
      Ribery
      Robben

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
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        I prefer Alexis over Ribery

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    6. Mílanista
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      Zlatan

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    7. Piggs Boson
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      Modric

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    8. getfunky
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      lahm

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    9. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      Ronaldo

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  14. Jimmers
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    So no more subs for the Dutch until the 119th minute?

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    1. r0nh
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      Are u suggesting that if it goes to a penalty shoot out, the manager should use his best penalty stopper?

      Absolute genius!!!

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      1. GreenWindmill
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        And yet almost nobody else does it...

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        1. r0nh
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          Other peoples fear doesnt make him a genius

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          1. GreenWindmill
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            Why would they be afraid if it's so obvious?

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            1. r0nh
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              You tell me why other managers dont do it.

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              1. GreenWindmill
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                Presumably it doesn't occur to them as a tactic. Many things seem obvious once they've been done - the trick is to think of them before that.

                I'm reminded of the Douglas Adams book, possibly Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency where a character scoffs at Newton having discovered gravity since it was just there waiting to be discovered - he drops something and says "see - they even have it on at weekends" He goes on to eulogise about the invention of the catflap as real genius.

                None of that is especially relevant, it was just on my mind 🙂

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  15. FPL Daniel
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    WTF what kind of sub this is?

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    1. Gubbins94.
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      De Jong obviously isn't fit enough for any longer

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    2. Wild Rover
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      Brazilian tears that evaporated in last nights heat are coming down again

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    3. CopperPot82
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      A pure Clasie one

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  16. MITHRRANDIRR
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    On that Higuain chance Janmat should be pushing Higuain as well as heading the ball to remain safe.A better striker would score.

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  17. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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    Sabella is an odd looking chap

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Beavis agrees

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  18. Heels_Over_Head
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    Who is Clasie?

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    1. LewanGOALski
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      He's classy

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  19. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Late Holland Winner incoming 🙁

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  20. LewanGOALski
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    If I was LvG, and there' was119th min of this game, I'd have brought Vorm in this time 😀

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  21. Wild Rover
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    Is he blind? 😆

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    1. Wild Rover
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      I commented on this likeness a few weeks back 🙂

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  22. Punty
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    When does FPL open/start? Sorry if you get this question 1000 times a day but couldn't find info anywhere

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    1. GreenWindmill
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      Best guess based on previous years is early next week but nobody knows for sure.

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      1. Punty
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        Ah ok, cheers guys!

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      There is no opening date
      It's very random

      They should get a countdown clock like Maccy Ds.....which did nothing 🙂

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    3. Declan
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      Probably next week

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  23. MITHRRANDIRR
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    will someone shoot?Blocked shots would bring points quicker.

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  24. VougieDipond
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    100 points is a pipe dream at the mo.

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    1. Jimmers
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      on 95 🙂

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  25. r0nh
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    75 points!

    U will not catch me now!!

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  26. Bubz
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    Has there even been a shot on target this match? Boooring.

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    1. Wild Rover
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      Messi free kick

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  27. The Missing Link
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    Any Ivory Coast team member around? Its 1-1 with 3 matches seperated by less than 5 points. Who you guys got as captains?

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  28. funny money
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    holland dominating since clasie came on

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  29. Declan
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    Roncrete.

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    1. r0nh
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      That's what she calls me 😎

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      1. Declan
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        *Ronhcrete 😆

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    2. Count of Monte Hristo
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      Ronseal

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
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        *Rohnseal?

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