Moving Target

Moving Target – Dejan Lovren

Having plundered Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton earlier this summer, Brendan Rodgers returned to the St Mary’s club for the third time in order to acquire centre-half Dejan Lovren. The 25-year-old arrives at Anfield for a reported £20m and is Rodgers’ fifth signing of the close-season, with Lazar Markovic and Emre Can also making their way to Merseyside:

Discussing the move with the club’s official website, the Reds boss admitted the Croatian’s organisational skills will be crucial for the campaign ahead:

“This is a very important signing for us and I’m delighted it’s completed so Dejan can join up with us on our US tour. I think he’s a really commanding centre-half. I’ve said since we lost Jamie Carragher that we needed that leadership. He’s a player that gives us that. He’s very strong, very commanding, but he can play. I’ve been really impressed with him. I watched him at Lyon, he came into the Premier League with Southampton and I know their players thought he was a big driving force for them and kept them defensively solid. I think he’s a player that can still improve, still develop as he’s in his mid-20s. He’s someone I’m really looking forward to working with.”

The History

A product of the NK Karlovac youth system, Lovren was snapped up by Dinamo Zagreb back in 2004. The defender was handed his senior debut as a 16-year-old a couple of years later before being loaned out to Croatian club Inter Zaprešić – over a couple of seasons, he became a first-team regular and scored once in 50 league outings.

After returning to his parent club for the start of the 2008/09 campaign, Lovren racked up 36 appearances over the next season-and-a-half before being acquired by Lyon midway through the 2009-10 season for €8 million. Spending four years with the Ligue 1 outfit, the Croatian gradually established himself as a key figure at the back and registered two goals and a pair of assists over 72 appearances.

Signed by Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino last June, the centre-half turned out 31 times, scoring on a couple of occasions, with his displays proving fundamental to a run of 15 clean sheets over 2013/14.

On the international scene, Lovren has represented his country from Under-17 to Under-21 level on a total of 55 occasions, scoring six times. The centre-half has also notched twice in 21 appearances for the senior side and played all three group games in the recent World Cup.

The Prospects

Liverpool’s free-scoring side may have earned plenty of plaudits and Fantasy investment after racking up 101 goals in the season gone by, but a series of poor defensive displays ultimately proved their undoing. Rodgers’ side came within two points of the title in spite of a backline that conceded 50 times over 2013/14 – only 14 goals fewer than rivals City (37) and Chelsea (27) combined – and mustered a mere 10 clean sheets over the entire campaign.

Clearly, the Merseysiders need improving at the back if they are to maintain their momentum and Lovren’s acquisition certainly looks a step in the right direction. Having splashed the cash and cited the Croatian’s leadership skills, Rodgers sees the new boy as vital to his plans, and with starts looking guaranteed, it leaves Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Mamadou Sakho vying for the remaining central defensive berth if, as expected, Liverpool operate with a four-man back-line again. Whilst Skrtel’s seven goals last term underline his capabilities in the opponents’ box, there’s every chance that Sakho could be set to partner the new boy, bearing in mind that Rodgers forked out £15m for the Frenchman’s services this time last year.

Priced at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and 6.3 in the Sky Sports game, Lovren is already the seventh most popular defender in the former game, with an ownership of 16% and rising. Granted, full-back pair Jon Flanagan and Jose Enrique are cheaper at 5.0 apiece and, if either can nail down a regular role this term, they could provide better value than the Croatian but for now, with Skrtel and 6.0 and both Agger and Sakho at 5.5, Lovren certainly seems the safest option for those willing to take a punt on Rodgers’ defence.

Having conceded 93 goals in two seasons under Rodgers, though, it’s fair to say Liverpool are hardly deserving of such lofty price-tags at the back. Bearing in mind that the likes of Mathieu Debuchy is similarly priced and offers a route into an Arsenal defence with 17 clean sheets last term, and Tottenham new boy Ben Davies, at 5.0, will be hoping to benefit from Pochettino’s installation at Spurs, there could well be better value found elsewhere.

Whilst there’s hope that Lovren’s arrival may just be the catalyst for a turnaround in defensive fortunes for the Mersysiders, trips to City and Spurs in the first three fixtures may convince many to steer clear initially. One look at the schedule from Gameweek 4, when Liverpool face four kind home matches (AVL, EVE, WBA, HUL) and trips to West Ham and QPR in the subsequent six, suggests that if Lovren’s installation makes the difference, we could start to reconsider Liverpool’s defence once again.

Further Reference

Dejan Lovren Wikipedia

Dejan Lovren Transfer Markt Page

Dejan Lovren You Tube 2013/14 Highlights

Dejan Lovren First Liverpool Interview

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4,675 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Blue Lion
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Innsie, any idea if Caulker scored more in the home games or away games? As in goals.

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      3 at home to Fulham & WBA, 2 away to Fulham and Swansea...

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      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Flat track bully.

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    2. Blue Lion
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers Z man.
      Who are this year's Fulham? 🙂

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      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Leicester.

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I was initially on Speroni,Ward,Simpson. But now i may opt for Caulker instead..hmm..

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          1. President John F. Keninnsie
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Do it! You know you want to join Zep and I... 😀

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            1. Blue Lion
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              MUST...RESIST.....
              Coleman!...Where's Coleman!!??

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              1. President John F. Keninnsie
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Who needs Coleman when you have Ward... 😉

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                1. Irish Madridista ⭐
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  You guys are getting Caulker in? 😀 I thought I was alone!

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                  1. President John F. Keninnsie
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    You are not alone 🙂

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    3. Karemboe
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      i need someone's opinion and advice on my team: im playing 3-5-2

      Begovic

      shaw, debuchy, yun, sub ( Target, Bruce )

      Febregas, Sanchez, Eriksen, Mata < Markovic

      Rooney, Giroud sub ( Vaz Te )

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  2. MITHRRANDIRR
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Was on end of last page. This news may be important.

    Luke Shaw has been told he's not fit enough to train with first team.Has been told to train alone.

    Just listened this on talksport.

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    1. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      yep, and apparently LVG sees Ashley Young as his alternative wingback on both sides

      😆

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Oh dear, I feared this.

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        1. New Ghost
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          it's a pretty worrisome proposition

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      He looked quite big, he looks older than 18 too

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    3. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      'Luke needs to be fit and he’s not very fit and can’t perform how I want. He needs to be fit and to train individually.
      'I can’t judge why. I see what I see. I have spoken with him and we have made a programme with him.
      'He has agreed. We will have to see how long it takes. I don’t know.
      'I have heard good messages from Tony Strudwick the fitness coach.'

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2709083/Luke-Shaws-worries-Louis-van-Gaal-new-Manchester-United-boss-deems-30million-signing-unfit.html#ixzz38pz1NRoT
      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

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    4. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      30m for someone that's not even fit. WTF

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Appar Moyes bought him.

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    5. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Gotta love buying £25 million pies 😀

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  3. Mayor of Flair
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Ozil-Tadic-Costa

    or

    Sanchez-Fabregas-Pelle

    Please help!

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      SFP

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        ^

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  4. Walrus Eggs
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Any chance of RVP being eased into the squad or is he guaranteed to start right away?

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    1. Uber Mo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      What would you do if you were LVG? Of course there is a chance he will be eased in post World Cup. IMO I don't think he will start the first couple of games.

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      1. Walrus Eggs
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I would start him. United need a strong start. That doesn't mean that'll happen though.

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  5. King Henrik
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Morning Guys.. Anyone give this team a quick Rmt Pls.

    Ddg
    Terry Davies Naylor
    Cesc Eriksen Siggy Mata
    Rooney Costa Dzeko

    Mannone Albright Wisdom Targett

    Thanks

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    1. Mayor of Flair
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Looks good, 100% Dzeko will start?

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    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Strong.

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    3. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Mannone is not needed. Get a 4.0 and upgrade to a guaranteed starting defender. Other than that, I like it a lot. I'm considering that team, with the change I mentioned and probably Lamela over Erik, myself.

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    4. Uber Mo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Agree that downgrading Mannone is a good idea. I would upgrade Naylor or a 4.0 to rotate with Naylor.

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    5. Blue Lion
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Good team..Well balanced.

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    6. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I have the same frontline but hazard Sanchez siggy and eriksen. Your defense is stronger as a result

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      1. King Henrik
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks all .. quite happy with that team .. Will probably upgrade Naylor.

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  6. Koflok
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    CPL-QPR-STO-NEW rotation.

    Wow.

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Swap NEW with SWA 😉

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yep!

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      2. Koflok
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I like Newcastle's fixture (avl swa LEI vs BUR NEW sto) and rate them better tbh.

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    2. money face bandwagon
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      we can actually get them at 18m total if we are lucky

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    3. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Starts to fall apart after GW10 and complete shambles round GW15, but who's looking that far ahead eh? 😉

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    4. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      How does a 4 way rotation work I never understood.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Its basically a threesome.

        With a fourth person watching.

        voyeury sexy.

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  7. _Freddo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Is anyone going with a strong 5 man midfield like a couple of years ago?

    Seems there are so many good midfielders this year at reasonable prices.

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I think the tactic is to choose the right big midfielders

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      1. _Freddo
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        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I think the real skill will be to pick the right strikers as theres loads of highly priced strikers that the cheaper midfielders will more than match.

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      2. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Very much this. There are too many 8.5+ midfielders - they won't all get 170+ points this season. Just like last season quite a few will prove to be overpriced.

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  8. dr. Phil
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Early morning RMT:

    Krul (Eliot)

    Caulker - Jones - B. Davies - Chester - Hooiveld

    Sterling - Hazard - Mata - Snodgrass - Albrighton

    Rooney - Diego Costa - Giroud

    Cheers mates.

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    1. Uber Mo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Caulker too expensive IMO
      Jones okay unless LVG signs a CB or plays 442. JEvans a better option IMO based upon reading the quality press.
      Snodgrass - bah. Hull have Europe don't forget, he could easily be rotated. Siggy? De Jong?
      Dzeko instead of Giroud and Sanchez over Hazard?

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      1. dr. Phil
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        thnx, gonna think about all of those strong recommendations.

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  9. Pringle
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    How do you rate my team? Quite satisfied I must admit.

    DDG Gilks
    Terry Davies 4.5 4.5 4.0
    Hazard Mata Sterling Siggy 4.5
    Rooney Dzeko Giroud

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    1. sho
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Don't find Sterling worth it, esp at the start of season.

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      1. Uber Mo
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I agree. Liverpool need to settle into life post Suarez and to accommodate the new signings. He could be good but plump for someone else (nasri, riksen, Lamela, De Jong?) and react if Sterling looks okay

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        1. Pringle
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I agree that Sterling is a punt. But surely not the worst one? For the first match he is an interesting differential I think. Plan is to take him out before gw2 but I guess something unforeseen happens in gw1 which makes that a bad plan.

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    2. JasonG123
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Do Terry to Fillipe Luis, and Sterling to a 9.0m of your choice (Ramsey/Silva/Fab).

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      1. Pringle
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Not sold on Luis from start of the season yet. And Terry is a goalthreat and nailed on (at least first games)

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        1. JasonG123
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe you could get away with downgrading a 4.5m defender to a 4m defender and then upgrading Sterling to a 9m mid.

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    3. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Name the 4.5's and it looks a lot worse 😀

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  10. The Missing Link
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Just like you play players from good teams every week, shouldnt you never play players from rubbish team? QPR defenders, really 😀

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    1. Uber Mo
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah I don't feel the Caulker or Rio love either man

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    2. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Agreed. Some people see the ticker and their rotation and think easy fixtures all round. I wouldn't be confident of a QPR clean sheet in any fixture, unless they show some defensive sturdiness that is. BUt at least one team will always surprise you

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  11. Blue Lion
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    If only Hazard wasn't on pens!

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Exactly, good timing. I put him back in my team

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      1. Hanso Lo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Question is, will he score that much more than Fab for the cost difference when said cost could have upgraded a mid or low-budget player that could potentially have a major points difference, thus giving you a higher combined points total?

        Eg.

        Haz + Low Budget vs Fab + Slightly increased budget to mid cost player.

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          1)Chelsea will easily get 6+ pens ...
          2)Hazard is a flat track bully
          3) Against weaker opposition Fab will play in the pivot.
          4)Hazard on the wing with Costa/Drogba waiting to convert the crosses is more dangerous than Fab playing in the pivot.

          Hazard will have another good season and will outscore Fab.

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          1. Hanso Lo
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            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I also like Fab's FK and (possible) Corners role…especially with our big defenders and attackers in there.

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  12. thes7s
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Punts are fun, it's a game anyway. You have a good point regarding players playing in the same PL team however I broke them down individually and they make much sense; BDavies plays for a team who have more potential to keep CS than Swansea especially with Pochy, same applies on Debuchy, Luis matches the criteria of a must have Chelsea defender who is a nailed on. I did too much tinkering and I'm comfy to start with those 15 as they provide great rotation options unless a major signing landed I'm most likely sticking with this 😀
    show us your team 😉

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    1. Karemboe
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      i need someone's advice on my team: im playing 3-5-2

      Begovic

      shaw, debuchy, yun, sub ( Target, Bruce )

      Febregas, Sanchez, Eriksen, Mata < Markovic

      Rooney, Giroud sub ( Vaz Te )

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  13. @FPLMason
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    I'm having second thoughts about owning Dzeko tbh...
    new
    LIV
    STO
    ars
    CHE
    hul

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    1. The Missing Link
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Its Man City minimum 15 goals in those games.....

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    2. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      new
      LIV
      STO
      wildcard

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    3. New Ghost
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      the first 3 won't be a problem at all. flog him before arsenal if you wish

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    4. Hanso Lo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Don't forget it is City…and the team hasn't changed…and they score goals often.

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    5. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Fixtures don't really matter with City though.

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    6. Blue Lion
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      They will score in all of these games..

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      1. Hanso Lo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Perhaps not in the Chelsea game though hey Blue Lion 😉

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  14. t4thomas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    RVP is back in training next Monday.

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  15. t4thomas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    LVG says Shaw has come back from the WC ' very unfit' and therefore ' was put on a programme so he can perform what he's asked to do'

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      He has also told him to train alone!

      Anyone still got Shaw?

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  16. Blue Lion
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    If Aguero, Dzeko and Jovetic are all fit, which two would start?

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Aguero and Dzeko.

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    2. Hanso Lo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      First 2 I reckon...

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    3. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Can see Jovetic getting minutes though... Impact sub to replace aguero after his typical 60.

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      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yep. Esp after the WC

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  17. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Is this defensive set up too weak?

    DDG
    Caulker - Coloccini - Ward
    Hazard - Mata - Siggy - Sanchez
    Dzeko - Bony - Rooney

    Myhill -- Simpson - Wanyama - Wisdom

    No money left over but I really like the look of it, only sorry I have like I mentioned is the possibility of my defence failing me for points.

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Caulker is actually Pieters

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        And I meant only worry*

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    2. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      It's not weak, but it is a 1 + 3 way rotation. That will give you two defenders a week.

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    3. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I have a very similar team, but went without Sanchez to pay for a defender:

      De Gea // 4M
      Cahill // Huth // Ward // Simpson // 4M
      Hazard // Mata // Nasri // Sigurdsson // 4.5M
      Rooney // Giroud // Dzeko

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I need some nailed on 4.5 defenders to pop up

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    4. Geordienufc1
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I've been trying to fit mata in over eriksen for days - as have you it seems 😛 I'm just not sure that I could justify weakening the midfield so much though.

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  18. Uber Mo
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    I'm not feeling Hazard at all this season.

    Think about it; he ended last season poorly (I dot have the stats but this could be because he was being reserved ahead of the World Cup). He then had a poor World Cup but Belgium made it relatively far so he will need rest. There were a lot of rumours about him moving to PSG. And at the end of last season I remember reading in the quality press that Jose was disappointed with his performances in matches and - more worryingly - his inability to follow what Jose wanted in training. I made a mental note at the time to steer clear of him for a bit. And generally is he really worth £10.0 million? IMO no.

    William and Oscar from Chelsea do really interest me though. William especially. He wasn't overly involved in the World Cup and I recall - again quality press - that Jose was really impressed by Willian in training and ty the was integral to plans for the season ahead.

    I won't be starting with any Chelsea midfielders until Willian/ Oscar prove themselves. I'm going Costa instead.

    HTH

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I was exactly the same, until I remembered Hazard was on penalties. I can see Schurrle playing a lot more as well, which will lower Hazards gametime I think

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    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Mourinho likes Willian as he's got a really high work rate - offensively and defensively. He's a great player for Chelsea and fits into their setup well but he isn't worthy of any fantasy investment IMO. There are doubts around Fabregas' position so Hazard seems like the only nailed on, proven fantasy player in his current team. Costa could turn out to be an inspired choice but many people are holding off at the start of the season. It is a good time to punt on him with those opening 2 fixtures though.

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      1. Mr Blue
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I agree with what you are saying, besides Fabregas position. Why is there a doubt? Surely he will play besides Matic and get a lot of freedom going forward. Just like Yaya and Ramsey last year. Cesc could even play more advanced in a no 10 role (Oscar out). IMHO Cesc is the best value in CHE midfield.

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        1. Walrus Eggs
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          You ask why there's doubt, and then you lay out the doubt. Few agree that he's a god option as a pivot player.

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          1. President John F. Keninnsie
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            This. I still think he'll do well though.

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    3. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I looked through his stats the other day. He has 4 goals and 4 assists in his last 26 appearances (since the hat trick last spring) for club and country. I think fixtures are what does it for a lot of people though.

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    4. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Form is temporary class is permanent. Hazard will come back with a bang and you'll be ruining your team to scrap in him once your rank plummets 😉

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      1. AriseSirGiggsy
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I was going to reply with the exact phrase
        Hazard 100% the best Chelsea forward
        Costa would only rival him if he got on pens - but Hazard will win most of those so it's no problem to him

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  19. Bolivian Seaman
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Look at these stats:

    arnie 2248mins 4goals 10assists 116
    adam 1755mins 8goals 4assists 109
    hazard 2890mins 14goals 10assists 202

    Charlie Adam doesn't look too bad, he's still on penalties

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Not nailed on though, which is shown in his minutes. Stoke fans think Ireland might take his place.

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    2. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You missed out red cards and suspensions from your stats

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      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        lol 🙂

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Check Arnie's 2nd half of the season, once he'd settled.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        1272mins 3goals 8 assists 80

        79 points in his 15 starts.

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  20. Kevtheotter
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Liking this but im sure im wrong

    Krul Foster
    Cahill Davies Naylor Huth Taggert
    Yaya Mata Hazard Dejong 4.5
    Rooney Giroud Bojan

    or i might do Luis/Ideye instead of Cahill/Bojan but just dont ee Lui taking Azi place as Mourinho has a masive hard on for him anyway let me know what you think

    Thanks

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    1. Kevtheotter
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Cleary a problem with my "s" button

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      1. FantaCity
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        L button*

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        1. Kevtheotter
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          was waiting on that

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  21. Zep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    So, any news on Shaw?*

    *keeps a straight face...

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    1. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Shaw must be wondering where it all went wrong

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    2. Blue Lion
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Not Shaw. Wilshere if there's any Ward.

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      1. Zep
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Oh no... 😉

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          😉

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    3. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      It's a worry if you are considered less fit than Rooney in pre season

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      1. Zep
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Hahah

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  22. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    So who is gonna play CAM for chelsea?
    Oscar?

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I really hope it's Cesc, but seeing as he has played in the double pivot previously, he probably won't...

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I think in the beginning it could be Cesc but eventually it will be Oscar..

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    2. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Possibly. Perhaps not at the start due to worldcup. They all interchange anyway but right now I'm tipping fabregas in that role

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        okay..

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    3. Blue Lion
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Oscar against weaker teams and Fab against stronger teams.

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    4. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      There's no way it's only one guy. I'd be surprised if Oscar and Cesc don't both get significant time there.

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    5. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I do t think there will be a CAM role as such. With the new personnel Jose can now switch to his favoured 4-3-3 system which will likely include Matic, Ramires & Fabregas mainly. Out of those 3 then Fabregas would be the one with more licence to get forward.

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  23. DameCorp
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    A) Dzeko and Eriksen

    or

    B) Sanchez and Long

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  24. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    A start-up team that breaks the template enough?

    Krul | Elliot
    B.Davies | C.Davies | Janmaat | Caulker | Trippier
    Sanchez | Sigurdsson | Hazard | Yaya Toure | Eriksen
    Dzeko | Pelle | Naismith

    Goalkeepers (£8.5): Any starting goalkeeper will likely earn similar points over the course of a season (+/- 25pts from average last season), so why spend tons on this position, especially to start with. Picking a quality, experienced starter at £4.5, along with either a rotation pairing of similar price or their natural backup is a sound decision.

    Defenders (£25): It looks like attacking fullbacks will have the most potential to benefit in terms of bonus points this season, and for obvious reasons it is never a bad idea to pick up players with a reputation for scoring goals and/or racking up assists, crosses, key passes, blocked shots, etc. Here are five nailed-on defenders at £5 each. No scrubs here, as I like to have options at the back. Each of these guys will likely get their chances to score as often as the premium priced variety in either bonus points or outright goals/assists.

    Midfielders (£45.5): This is looking like the season of the midfielder. With so many quality choices, it's hard to mess up these picks. Barring injury/suspension or a fluke transfer, each of these five should have excellent seasons. Yes, this midfield might look fairly "template", but I think these picks fall more in the "well, obviously" category. Each are nailed-on, known creators and goal scorers, and I don't foresee having to tinker with these picks for at least the first six weeks, if ever. 'nuff said there.

    Forwards (£21): At first glance, you might think this is a weak front line, and probably because the consensus says you have to have at least one or two big names up front or your fingernails will fall out. Obviously I believe the consensus is dead wrong on this point. As I implied before, I feel that the majority of points this season will be coming out of the midfield, and I have invested my initial £100 according to that belief. In addition, I change forwards more often than any other position over the course of a season, so I tend to look at forwards as punts by default unless a must-have player emerges over time. Bottom line, you can tie all your money up in a van Persie, Sturridge and/or Aguero from the onset, but it seems a risky proposition to do so since it surely means crippling your team's overall scoring potential. That said, I've picked Dzeko, Pelle, and Naismith to lead the line. Dzeko because I think Aguero's chance of outscoring him is insignificant, and because Yaya will outscore them both. Pelle because I believe in his reputation, and really for no other quantifiable reason than the FFS projections look good for him. Obviously Naismith will be riding the pine, and the first player I upgrade as funds allow.

    Well, that's it - a (mostly) non-template start-up team for your consideration.

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I admire people who break the template and go with something different, so good luck if this is the team you go with.

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      1. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        But you think I'm crazy, don't you Innsie? 😉

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          It's not as template as most but it still looks pretty template.

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        2. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Nope, for the opening fixtures I think you need a united attacker in there (Mata/Roo) and I can't see many clean sheets from your defence, but it's not too crazy 🙂

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          1. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            In your opinion, which is more likely for defenders in general this year, clean sheets or bonus points?

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            1. President John F. Keninnsie
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Defenders need clean sheets to get bonus points, that's the problem.

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              1. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Crap. I did not know that.

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    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      You need a bench, I'd upgrade naismith to ings

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    3. RammyRhino
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Think you could atleast try to upgrade pelle to giroud or bony

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    4. Albert Cole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      No United players? Can't take this seriously.

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      1. RammyRhino
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        You shouldn't take united seriously they're a joke 😉 30 m for an unfit player

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    5. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I like the analysis - but remain unconvinced that it will be the season of the midfielder, as you say. I believe you will always need a captain option from your strikers - even if you have a good few potential captains in your midfield.

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      1. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks, will consider that.

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    6. Zep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Change Janmaat to Ward IMO... don't fancy the Newcastle double up...

      Also no United is a huge concern...

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      1. ⁀⋎⁀⋎⁀⚽
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Probably true, as I have the same concerns, but it's supposed to be a non-template team...;)

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  25. JuveGeordie
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    This may be a daft question but (now I've switched Vlaar for Wisdom) - Lovren or B.Davies?

    (Should Vlaar switch to a top team, I'd probably revert)

    Thanks!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Davies

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  26. Stefan Schnoor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Quick show of hands please:

    A) Terry / Jelavic / Diego Costa

    B) Luis / Giroud / Dzeko

    thanks

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      B

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Innsie - what's your def looking like.

        Caulker obviously...rest?

        I keep on changing.

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        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          DDG - 4m
          Cahill - Caulker - Ward - Taylor - Cameron*

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Cahill nailed on?

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            1. President John F. Keninnsie
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              Think so. Don't know who else to get from the Chelsea defence 😕

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              1. Blue Lion
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Luie.

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      2. Stefan Schnoor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, I think I concur, pretty happy with this lot now:

        DDG (Myhill)

        Luis / B Davies / Cameron / Taylor / Wisdom

        Siggy / Sanchez / Mata / Fabregas (4.5m)

        Rooney / Dzeko / Giroud

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  27. Uber Mo
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Morning guys please can I get an RMT:

    Krul
    Jevans BDavies debuchy
    Sanchez Mata Eriksen Siggy
    Costa Roonpig Dzeko
    (Elliott El Ahmedi Targett Duff)

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    1. JuveGeordie
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      if you can scrape .5M from somewhere, get Speroni instead of Elliot

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    2. Walrus Eggs
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Template, except maybe for the lack of Chelsea defense. Looks good.

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  28. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Doesn't leave any room to rotate around the fixtures

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Reply fail to above

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    2. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      then get back to the drawing board..

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  29. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Currently have Coloccini and Wisdom to rotate worth 8.5...Can't think of a better combo at this price...

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Doubt Wisdom will start.

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        he is a doubt..but out of the 4m defenders..he looks most nailed on..

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        1. RammyRhino
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Target bar any signing

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    2. JuveGeordie
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Just done that 10 minutes ago, if not I can put the 5M back in for get Vlaar and both teams fixtures for the opening GWs are decent and with the exception of the first GW, also Newcastle's.

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  30. Albert Cole
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    So, Hazard or Costa? Guess the friendlies will give us some kind of answer.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Costa

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      1. Albert Cole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Currently on him, myself.

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      2. Albert Cole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I do often agree with you.

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