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Dugout Discussion August 23

The Dugout Discussion – Aston Villa vs Newcastle

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The second Gameweek of the season kicks off with one for the neutrals. Even at this fledgling stage in the season, the encounter between Aston Villa and Newcastle looks every inch a mid-table clash, filled with an array of budget and mid-price Fantasy assets which, while unlikely to form mainstays in our squads, still warrant our attention.

There’s certainly potential on show, with both sides fielding budget defensive curiosities in the shape of Alan Hutton and Paul Dummett. Elsewhere, Villa’s Charles N’Zogbia will continue to attempt to revive his top flight career against one of his former clubs, while Newcastle’s fresh cast of talent – notably Remy Cabella and Emmanuel Riviere – will have another attempt our turning our heads in the hunt for differentials.

The early kick-off is followed by a quartet of three o’clock clashes, before Everton host Arsenal in the big evening clash.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Alan The Llama
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    Random copper on for bonus points.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      Copper? Did we slip back to the 50's?

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  2. Woy of the Wovers
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    Graham Taylor's HT summary. Not much to threaten either goal. I need a drink.

    Perfect for the budget defences.

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  3. Owd Big 'Ed
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    0-0 written all over it this one.

    Hutton playing well. Surprised he's not higher on the list for the bonus points at the moment.

    Need Aston Villa to score. H2H rival has Krul.

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    1. MJ6987
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      9 years, 10 months ago

      Nah, there will be goals second half I reckon.

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    2. Rossamous
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      Hope so! Vlaar and Krul here

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  4. Wouter
    • 9 Years
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    Missed the first half? Who has looked stronger? Saw that huge Cabella chance just now, been any better than that?

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    1. Wouter
      • 9 Years
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      then*

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      1. Podge
        • 13 Years
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        than

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        1. Rossamous
          • 11 Years
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          +1

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    2. Honeybadger
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      Newcastle slightly stronger attacking, AV strong defence. No one really impressing...

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    3. Crouch Potato!
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      A lot of shadow boxing imo.

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    4. Owd Big 'Ed
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      Not really. Aston Villa edged it for me but neither side has really threatened. Dull game so far.

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    5. djenzio
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      very boring match. aston villa seem afraid to attack and newcastle are looking poor.

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    6. CellinoArmy
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      That's the best it's been I'm afraid, Newcastle look likely to win 1-0 at best.

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    7. andyinasia
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      Both sides cancelling each other out - or cancelling themselves out with shoddy front play.

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    8. Wouter
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      Great, thanks everyone.

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    9. Wouter
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      Chelsea doesn't score for 45 minutes and people want to swap out Costa/Fabregas/Hazard?

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  5. Honeybadger
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    I want to see DJ on

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  6. Ludo
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    I reckon Coloccini has more hair than this whole Villa team combined.

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    1. Hubert
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      😆

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    2. TEKKERS FC
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      Thank you some1 agress with me 😉

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  7. Pinoche
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    https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-0/s200x200/10390112_853315878035777_8008593362765971179_n.jpg?cachebreaker=mcctest1 😀

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    1. Zep
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      http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/wOubsDuxXg4/hqdefault.jpg

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      1. Billy Gilmore
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        9 years, 10 months ago

        😆

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  8. waitinginthelonggrass
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    God don't let me have a Hutton clean sheet on the bench two weeks in a row....

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    1. djenzio
      • 10 Years
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      why do you have Hutton if you bench him at home to Newcastle?

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 12 Years
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        because he has 3 better options you would think

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      2. rocrocodile
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        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        He has Chissoko as well...

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        1. waitinginthelonggrass
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Not my team, link is incorrect as UD changed from last year.

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      3. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
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        Have Terry Debuchy and Clyne starting, Hutton first sub.

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      4. Woy of the Wovers
        • 13 Years
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        4m? 3rd on bench for me.

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    2. Scoredelario
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      Don't worry, it is a good thing really. You might get a price rise, and you have a decent 4m player in your squad.

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  9. Geordienufc1
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    9 years, 10 months ago

    As a Newcastle fan that was a very frustrating first half...

    We had some really nice build up play, but the finishing was atrocious. Cabella painful to watch atm - though I do expect he'll improve.

    Really need De Jong on there to provide some quality.

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    1. @BigChrisso
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      as a football fan that was a very disappointing first half

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    2. CellinoArmy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      No what newcastle need is a finisher.

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      1. Geordienufc1
        • 10 Years
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        Yes, but we don't have that kind of quality striker off the bench atm unfortunately, whereas SDJ had the experience and quality to turn the game.

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        1. CellinoArmy
          • 10 Years
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          Yeah true, maybe Perez will prove to be that sort of player, we'll have to wait and see.

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    3. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
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      Def need De Jong on.

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  10. beric
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Collo three bps

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
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      Return of the big hair baps theory.

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    2. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      There are more 45 minutes.

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
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        Thats a shame

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  11. Nicks93
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Just woke up. How has Reviere played ?

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    1. Geordienufc1
      • 10 Years
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      Thrown his weight around, but hasn't had much to do.

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    2. Podge
      • 13 Years
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      Quiet

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 12 Years
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        and average

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  12. Gooner97
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Stay away from Cabella's barber.

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    1. Honeybadger
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Better than Chamakh

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    2. CellinoArmy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Worst hairstyle ever O.O

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      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        Those extra inches give him assist potential

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  13. rocrocodile
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Cabella seems like a good player, but he lacks some sharpness and that final touch. I think he will be decent in a couple of months.

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    1. djenzio
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      yeah. a lot of new players who need time to gel but doesn't like they have anyone who can score

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    2. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Poor man's Cabaye?

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    3. Mata-Is-The-Juan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Could be a gold after the Christmas break.

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    4. meerlight
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      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Looks like he's got no left foot

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  14. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
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    In games like this neither team deserve to receive CS points!!!

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    1. CellinoArmy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      If no goals are scored against you then you deserve a CS, this sort of logic is just stupid.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Lucky that teams don't get CS points then. 😉

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I don't understand that logic.

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    4. meerlight
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      • 12 Years
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      Absolutely. And goalscorers should get any points if it's a goal fest.

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      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        *shouldn't

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        1. CellinoArmy
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Well said 😀

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  15. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Caulker (SUN), Chester (avl), Clyne (whu), Kelly (new) and PvA (qpr).

    Could be like The Lottery, picking The right three 😛

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    1. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Caulker as the home boy.

      After that it's anyone's guess.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Based on results so far, Home is not always an advantage. Though you're right, it should be.

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        1. DonTheSpecialOne
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          • 13 Years
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          Good point, but Caulker is probably one of The three. Though I have no idea yet who to play.

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    2. Beavis
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      9 years, 10 months ago

      Having the same problem with Rio (SUN), Hutton (HUL), Chambers (lei), Chester (avl), O'Shea (qpr). Currently considering the first 3 if Chambers looks like a starter.

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      1. Beavis
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        I'd go with Caulker, Clyne and not sure about 3rd spot from your lot.

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        1. DonTheSpecialOne
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          • 13 Years
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          Yeah the first three looks good mate, or Hutton -> Chester.

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          1. Beavis
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            Europa League swaying me towards Hutton but still early for now...

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            1. DonTheSpecialOne
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
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              I keep fortetting Hull is actually playing in Europe this season

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              1. Beavis
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
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                Need to qualify first!

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                1. DonTheSpecialOne
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                  • 13 Years
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                  True 🙂

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    3. CellinoArmy
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      9 years, 10 months ago

      Chester, as you can see from this match, aston villa will only score with good fortune.

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    4. djenzio
      • 10 Years
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      just looked at gm3 myself and in a similar boat...

      Chester (avl) Clyne (whu) Ward (new) Wisdom (swa) Terry (eve)

      don't know what to do

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Terry for goal threat, Chester and Clyne I'd probably go with

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  16. In Like Flynn.
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    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I'll settle for a 0-0 and Vlaar 2 or 3 BPs.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
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      Very generous of you, ILF

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  17. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Best Hut?

    Pizza Hut

    Jabba the Hut

    Alan Hutton

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    1. Podge
      • 13 Years
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      Pizza for sure

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    2. Bielsa’s bucket
      • 12 Years
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      Jabba

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      1. Bielsa’s bucket
        • 12 Years
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        Although Jabba does love Pizza

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    3. SilkySkills
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Pizza the hut?

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    4. djenzio
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      pizza

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  18. Mata-Is-The-Juan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    BPS @ halftime :
    3 Points (12 BPS): Williamson + Coloccini
    1 Point (7 BPS): Guzan

    Surprised by Coloccini being on there. As an owner, not going to question it.

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    1. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      More 45 minutes, meh.

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I imagine Coloccini and Williamson are the only players to complete 30 passes.

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    3. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      He has bascially spent most of the half passing the ball around under no pressure, perfect for baps.

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  19. Bakespurs
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    F1 qualy is miles ahead of this poor excuse for a prem. league game

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    1. Gooner97
      • 10 Years
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      F1 is crap now.

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      1. @BigChrisso
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        only attending it, still has appeal as a tv sport.

        But F me the need to ditch these v6 engines, sound terrible live

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        1. Gooner97
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          They should call Formula Mercedes.

          The only good thing about F1 now is the Codemasters game

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    2. Mr_Partridge
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Would rather pluck my pubes out then watch F!

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      1. Bakespurs
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        being an aussie its holding my interest with Ricciardo doing well this year.....but yes it aint what it used to be

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    3. Sánchez
      • 11 Years
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      F1 isnt a sport

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      1. Bakespurs
        • 9 Years
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        yeah it is

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  20. Djerbil
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    9 years, 10 months ago

    The line ups in 20 mins will hopefully be more exciting

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  21. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
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    Really hoping Siggy is out on the wing with Gomis starting too. Doubtful though.

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    1. djenzio
      • 10 Years
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      not after winning at Old Traf....

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      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        Yeap agreed.

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    2. Rossamous
      • 11 Years
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      Was this the reason you didn't start the season with Siggy?

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      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
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        Yes. I consider Siggy to be a top option but I thought if he was on the wing in a 4-4-2 he would be sharing his points quite a lot with Gomis/Bony. May still get him in for GW3 though, no doubting his quality.

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        1. Rossamous
          • 11 Years
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          Same reason why I switched him off my GW1 team. It didn't work out. We'll see what happens from here on in though. If I wait to buy GW3, minus well wait for GW5 if his output slows down and the bandwagon loses some steam.

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    3. GTS
      • 10 Years
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      he better be on the wing and stay quiet! 😡

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      1. Bakespurs
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        interesting stat....7 of Siggy's 8 goals in his first Swansea stint were away from home....hope he improves his home form

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  22. zoli0506
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    The only positive thing about this game is Hutton. So far this is a very boring tiki-taka game. Heavy possesion based football from both teams. We need hardcore, tough, strong, agressive heavy-metal football, we need more Huttons. This is England after all.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
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      And Hutton is English.....

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      1. zoli0506
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I know he is not. I just prefer to see him over Cabellas.

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  23. RedNev
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    Hutton has had a good first half. Hoping for a Villa cleanie.

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    1. djenzio
      • 10 Years
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      feel i missed out on the Hutton express.....horrible fixtures for next 4 gw

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  24. Vardy Gras PBFC
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    Riviere - Newcastle's only shot on target this season?

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  25. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
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    Think the vile will do well defensively this year. It's clear from their signings they are building from back to front to make a good team.

    Go Hutton!

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    1. djenzio
      • 10 Years
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      good teams will destroy them...they are playing a team who has registered 1 shot on target

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      1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
        • 10 Years
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        Who played Manchester city last week...

        Good job for them only to give them 1 shot

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  26. super zlatan
    • 13 Years
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    Praying for that Krul cleanie.

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      Would love a 0-0, would start the week so promisingly!

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      1. super zlatan
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Exactly Beavis. Let's keep the fingers crossed

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    2. Ings on the up
      • 12 Years
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      I bottled it for Begovic... :/

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      1. Jax
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        newcastle to win 1-0

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        1. Ings on the up
          • 12 Years
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          Mmm...

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  27. Ings on the up
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    Wow... Just short of 153,000 WC's played this week!

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    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 10 Years
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      Cazuals

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  28. In Like Flynn.
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    • 13 Years
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    Just a quick note. 0-0 does not in itself make it a bad game. As people's knowledge and appreciation of the game grows they know this.
    Just means the defence have done their jobs well.

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      This

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    2. djenzio
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      true. but this game so far has not been one of those.....

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  29. SW6
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I tried to give you guys a headstart 😉

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/08/14/the-watchlist-updated-gameweek-1/?hc_page=5#hc_comment_7879305

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    1. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I mistakenly went for Wisdom

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      • 14 Years
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      I remember that. But I also remember Alan Hutton. 😉

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    3. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 10 Years
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      he is looking like a real option, I may swap baird out for him eventually

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  30. super zlatan
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    Worth doing debuchy > Clyne to save 0.5?

    Will allow me to upgrade wisdom possibly the week after

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    1. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 10 Years
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      Yes, but hold until today's games are over (possible injury)

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