Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – Wednesday

The festive fixture list finally draws to its conclusion this evening as Tottenham Hotspur welcome Chelsea to White Hart Lane at 8pm.

Four of the top seven captains for Gameweek 20 – Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Alexis Sanchez, Sergio Aguero and Romelu Lukaku – have already found the net earlier in the week.

The remaining three, Diego Costa, Eden Hazard and Harry Kane, have it all to do, then, with Costa the most popular of that trio – 11.6% have backed the Spain international, compared to Hazard (4.7%) and Kane’s 2.8%.

Costa, certainly, has been the more impressive of the Chelsea pair on his travels – the Spain international has scored eight away goals compared to Hazard’s two.

Yet the league leaders won’t have it easy – Spurs boast the tightest home defence in the top-flight, with just five goals against in front of their own fans.

Chelsea, meanwhile, have been similarly resilient, conceding just one goal in six away matches since Antonio Conte switched to a 3-4-3 set-up.

Nonetheless, many Fantasy managers will be keeping a keen eye on Kane along with Deli Alli and Christian Eriksen, with the fixtures set to smile kindly on Spurs from Gameweek 21 onwards.

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  1. MidasBoys XI
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Is Coutinhio's price protected? It doesn't appear to want to down beyond 8.2m

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Being bought now.

      1. MidasBoys XI
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Bu g ger 🙁
        Here's another question, are the players who have gone to the afcon price protected?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          no

          1. MidasBoys XI
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Hmmmm, interesting

  2. pls
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    better combo for next few weeks??
    Coutinho. defoe
    Stanilas, Costa

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      neither, something else

    2. Max City
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      between the 2, cout defoe

  3. The Desi Messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    This for a hit?

    Origi > Giroud
    Firmino > Alli

    1. bigbudgie
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I would do that yes

    2. Max City
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Is Giroud even nailed on?

  4. bigbudgie
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Sanchez is being shipped? on 48.5% at 0.30% an hour.
    Seriously?

    Hazard has lei HUL in the next two. He's being shipped too? For Spurs mids who have WBA mci in the next two?

    Keep your heads out there people...

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      +1

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Hazard is crap. His stats are crap. His returns are crap.

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        couldnt agree more.

      2. bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        'Hazard is crap'

        We have such short memories

        The thing is, the more you are lulled into thinking he is crap the sillier we look when he inevitably reminds us of how good he is...

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Same thing happened last season. People held Hazard week after week after week saying

          1. Kiwivillan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            ... he'll come right while everyone else left then in the dust

          2. SC not pearls before swine
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Same thing also happened weeks 4-7. His stats were crap, people bailed. He scored 5 and assisted 2 in the next 4 games. I can understand getting frustrated and selling, but he's shown he can reignite at any time. And he's been a consistently excellent fantasy player every single year he's been in the premier league except for last year.

        2. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          .... but then blanks or scores poorly in the following 5 to 6 games...

      3. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        2nd highest scoring mid all season?

    3. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I think both Sanchez, Haz and spurs mid are essential

      1. bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        going without Pool/United then?

        1. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          @bigbudgie Potentially yes. Have Lallana but want Coutinho. After Hull I might replace Haz with Couts.

          1. bigbudgie
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Pool fixtures so so mixed though. Not sure they have the resilience.

    4. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Chelsea are just having 1-0 or 2-0 wins at most, and wouldn't be suprised if Haz blanked in both. Spurs attacking and will score against west brom and City.

      1. bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        third highest goal scorers in the league?

      2. Pique boo
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        5-0 Everton
        4-0 Manchester united

        remember those games?

    5. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn't say I'm anywhere near shipping Sanchez but there's no doubt his appeal has waned now he's stuck out on the wing

    6. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Last 8 games

      Alli 72pts
      Eriksen 71pts
      Hazard 38pts

      1. bigbudgie
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        hindsight is a wonderful thing
        If you shipped Haz 8 games ago then well done...

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        yep, and Haz the most costly, really not worth the outlay, so glad i got rid.

      3. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Crap, it must be double that after the next 8

      4. Pique boo
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        at one point Alli and Eriksen were blanking and hazard was scoring/assisting every game.....

    7. Shultan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      No patience this year, every week there's a must have player, last week it was all about lallana getting kun! This week it's ali. When they start blanking the masses will sell & move on to the next big thing

      1. Big Mac 24
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Hazard is season keeper for me unless he gets injured / come may, he'll be top thRee mid, no doubts.

  5. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Wouldn't mind testing the FFS waters of opinion on this double crab move.

    Haz & Rondon > Costa & Phillips.

    It's for -4 and sticks a useful .4m in the bank.

    Haz & Ron on price slides - Cost & Phil on the up...

    Yay or Nay Thoughts?

    1. Van der Faart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Push the button

    2. Ayew Serious
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn't be looking to get Costa right now

      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        he's the only one consistent enough

    3. Winks Club
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Kane > Costa imo but its close

    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      It couldn't be worth -4 just to protect value.

      Hazard will hack up vs Hull though.

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Not just value Tony - form & consistency is suggesting Phil & Costa.
        Not keen but the .4m lets me sort out either Kingsly or Pickford later on.

        1. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I wouldn't disagree with you at all Gnu.

          It looks a solid pair of moves bud.

        2. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Just seeing my typo meant to say could rather than couldn't.

          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Cheers

  6. mash
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Glad I saved an FT last week to give myself options, but can't work out what would be best!

    Current squad:

    Grant Pickford*
    Alonso Walker McAuley Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Lallana Sigurdsson Capoue
    Ibra Kane Anichebe*

    2FT. £0.5m in the bank

    Is Hazard to Alli too kneejerky? Or maybe I should wait until after the cup games before deciding, and try not to worry about prices changes.

    Any advice or ideas appreciated!

    1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I wouldn't go Hazard to Alli

      1. mash
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers. My main concern with that move is Chelsea cover. Would Hazard & Kane to Alli and Costa be too sideways? It would leave me with £2.5 in the bank to upgrade Capoue or Anichebe.

    2. Winks Club
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Capoue to someone who get more than 2 point agame. Stanis?

      1. mash
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers - I like this, and have the exact funds for it at current prices. Could then wait and see for the other FT, or save it.

        1. Winks Club
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Sounds good to me

  7. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Save trade or make a move?

    1ft, 1.4itb

    Heaton
    Alonso / Baines / Friend
    Sanchez / Hazard / Eriksen / Lallana / Phillips
    Ibrahimovic / Defoe

    Pickford / Pieters / McAuley / Diamonde

    1. 50 Shades Oshea
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Diomamde to wilson or be boring and do lallana to alli

      1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I'm not wasting a trade on Diamonde to Wilson.

    2. Liftbox
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      save imo

    3. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Save imo

  8. 50 Shades Oshea
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Worth holding wally still?
    taken a -2 on him so far, but tempted to still hold with those next three games unless confirmed out

  9. lordkippe
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Wondering if i should go for defoe or lukaku as my 3rd striker. Rest of my team will look a lot better if i go defoe. Currently on bentekkers. Do you think lukaku will outscore defoe at all ?

    1. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Yes. I think Lukaku will outscore Defoe because Everton create more chances. Sunderland have had a lot of pens and that is likely to regress to the mean. Defoe's quality but Sunderland are poor

  10. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    And there goes transfer number 36 of the season! And i wonder why I'm losing.

  11. Jay_
      7 years, 3 months ago

      So it's the halfway mark, well one game over but it feels like halfway mark now as it was so soon of a turnaround after gw19. Finally time to reflect. If you was told pre season, what position you'd be in at this stage, would you have been happy? For me, definitely not, at 300k and wanted at least 100k by this stage. In fact even 100k would've been disappointing tbh.

      1. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Not really. 91K OR (vs 61K at same stage last season).

        Cash H2H league has messed me up a bit OR-wise. I've made certain decisions for the short-term and considering upcoming H2H match rather than focussing purely on OR this season.

      2. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Shocer of a season sitting at 600k lol, but WC'd and hopefully things turn around from this point, would of been too late to hang onto it for DGW's, and Differentiator made a great case for using it now as not much appeal of using it in the DGW's due to the teams involved, and people already most likely being already heavily loaded on chelsea and liverpool and united players etc.

      3. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Same here mate. Definitely not happy with 140K. But last year was the same story. Maybe we are late risers?

      4. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        On top of a big money league which is all i'm worried about.

      5. korbendallas82
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I Was around 900.000 last december. Ended on 38.000. This time im on 188.000. Pretty Happy since i been struggling In november and december almoust every season.

      6. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, 74K and second in main ML. My second year in FPL

      7. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        17k. Played my WC this week. Hopefully it's enough to stay ahead of your monster TV ;-). We had almost identical squads a few GW's back!

    • F4L
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Pogba's underlining stats are crazy good. Will he eventually start returning what those stats suggest he will or is he flattering to deceive?

      1. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        His finishing is a bit rubbish. Stats trap IMO

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        What is an underlining stat when it's at home?

      3. korbendallas82
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I have him and like him alot. Been a bit unlucky not to Get a goal last game. He is getting more and more comfortable Finding his role in the team. But at 8.5 mill he will be closely evaluated. At that bracket there are so many good options playing more attacking roles.

    • Hands Guber
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      GW 11 I was ranked 1.2m.

      GW 12 I took a 20 point hit followed by a 4 point hit in GW 13.

      GW 20 I'm ranked 107k.

      That 24 point 'last shot' gave me Kane/Brunt/Snodgrass/Alli/Siggy and Ibra one week later.

      My point is not to gloat as one antipodeon poster on here suggested last time,simply that there's always a chance that your luck will change with some bold moves made when I felt I had no chance of making it back.

      You gotta have faith,you gotta have faith,cowboys.

      1. Lav
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Wow. I was 100k four or so GWs ago. Now at 350k. Considering a big hit this week.

      2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Good work mate, you should be proud.

      3. AFC49
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Nice one mate

      4. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        if you have Ibra, then no need to have him in my opinion, and would rather have the likes of eriksen/alli

    • MartialMatas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Alli on 9 PPG over the last 8 (13.25 over the last 4)
      Eriksen on 9.25 PPG over the last 8

      Might have to get both

      1. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I'd love to have both with such form and upcoming fixtures. + no CL-rotation at the moment.

      2. hmmm
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Thinking of doing the same.

      3. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        tripled on WC, including these and Rose, had to be done.

    • AFC49
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Ake or Chambers?

    • Lav
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      0.5 ITB

      Foster Pick
      Alonso Cedric Holebas Friend Ake
      Sanchez Haz Eriksen Capoue de Roon
      Ibra Costa Rondon

      Drop Holebas, Cedric and/or Friend, Capoue, Hazard for -8/-12?

      1. Liftbox
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I'd hold.

        Maybe find a way to do Capoue or deroon to phillips or snoddy if really looking to do something

        1. Lav
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Have to take a hit. Been on the down recently and losing the grip on my ML.

          1. Liftbox
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            the stay with a -4 if possible. Maybe Holebas for? and then Capoue to snoddy.

            Just a thought

            1. Lav
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Probably. Will get more opinions.

    • ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Best game week rank all year of 130k odd and have climbed to the same overall.

      Pretty stoke i decided to go 3-5-2

      1. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Well done!

    • jia you
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I'm really going against the grain on here it seems, sticking with this (for the next two fixtures at least):
      1. Keeping Siggy & triple CHE.
      2. No Spurs
      3. No Liverpool
      Havent had a Spurs player all season (apart from Toby A for a few weeks which was a disaster). No Liv either bar Firmino for a chunk. Still holding my own at 70k 🙂

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        There's not going with the grain and then there's burying your head in the sand but go with your gut, could pay off.

        1. jia you
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          It's not as if I havent been active (34 transfers so far) but just think it's a bit early to be shipping CHE assets and piling in Spurs, which many seem to be doing! Cheers and good luck mate!

    • Lecky Legs FC
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Choose an ideal replacement for Mane

      A) Coutinho
      B) Ali
      C) Eriksen

      1. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Hard to argue with Alli, although of course he's not going to score a brace every week. Coutinho could be a brilliant pick.

        1. Lecky Legs FC
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah just thinking with his return could be a bargain buy also I'm a big Liverpool fan so I might sound biased here but I think he will do well.

      2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Eriksen

      3. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        E/A this week

      4. Van der Faart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        They are all ideal. For A I'd be waiting to see how pool look without Mane. For now B or C are both good options. I've got C and am sticking with it, so my advice would be to go B Haha

        1. Lecky Legs FC
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah all have the potential to do well in eh next few GW's probably go with B cheers for your feedback

      5. Viprin
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Alli

      6. Shultan
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Coutinho not back from injury yet, if you want to get him atleast wait until next week

        1. Lecky Legs FC
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I'll take that onboard cheers fella

      7. jia you
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        No Spurs or Liv and will bring in one in a few weeks. Eriksen is the pick atm, showing consistency, which is a bit unusual for him, to add to his class and set piece duties.

    • Total Foot 5 - romario 11
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      who to bring ?

      1 stanislas
      2 antonio

      1. Sharpe Shuffle
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Stan the man

      2. Total Foot 5 - romario 11
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        stan the man it is

      3. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Stan the man

    • SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I hope these Antonio to Chelsea rumors don't pan out. I really like him as a midpriced differential for the next couple gameweeks.

      1. Jay_
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Definitely won't happen.

          1. SC not pearls before swine
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            I dunno, Chelsea have basically unlimited cash and Antonio would be a good fit as a squad player. And no player believes he'll go sit on the bench, he might think he's better than Pedro/Willian/Moses. Hope you're right though.

      2. Jay_
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I wonder how much Alli would have risen this week if there wasn't a cap. At least .5 I think. (Tonight will be his 2nd rise)

        • UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Pick one:

          A) Alonso
          B) Walker

          1. Winks Club
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Rose, if you have him then Alonso

            1. Hurricane Gilbert
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              This

          2. F4L
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            A for next two then switch

          3. Royal5
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Walker. Those green fixtures.

          4. Van der Faart
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Difficult but prob just Alonso

        • Hurricane Gilbert
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Got some nice feedback earlier and would like a final vote before my decision.

          A) 3-4-3 with Lallana + Origi > Alli and Defoe (-4)

          B) 3-5-2 with de Roon + Origi > Alli and Barnes (-4)

          1. F4L
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            A

          2. Winks Club
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            A

        • MidasBoys XI
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Any news on Wally? Apart from it looks like he's dropping again

        • Z
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Heaton Pickford
          Alonso Jones Brunt Aké Amat
          Sanchez Hazard Lallana Phillips deRoon
          Ibra Aguero Benteke*

          Alonso, Benteke, deRoon > Baines, Alli, Campbell?

        • Torres76
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Are you lads going with

          1. 3-5-2
          2. 3-4-3
          3. 4-3-3

          Thanks
          Torres

          1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            1. Was very close to 2. before Eriksen scored well.

          2. King Klopp
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            1

          3. F4L
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            best value in 1 imo

          4. Holmes
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            4. 4-5-1 😮

          5. Royal5
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            3 always

            1. Royal5
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              *2!

          6. Winks Club
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Don't want to take hits to change formation. That is why sticking with 3-4-3

        • ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I think i might have a week off FFS.

          1. Shultan
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            I actually like this place when it's not match days! I find its the sensible ones that post instead of crazy posts like the guy earlier going on about costa being most over hyped!

            1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Thats true. You've talked me into staying.

        • King Klopp
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Need to sell Zaha. Which is the best option
          A) Phillips
          B) Snoddy
          C) Get Snoddy in for Bournemouth game when Phillips vs Spurs and swap him for Phillips after that
          D)Stanislas

          1. Royal5
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            a

        • Total Foot 5 - romario 11
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          anyone doing Firmino for Alli for a -4 tonite? to avoid price rise and being priced out till jan 21 for 2 ft