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The Digest – Gameweek Eleven

The leader of the pack delivers for Wolves. Bolton tear into a leg-weary Stoke to avenge an FA Cup humiliation and Robin Van Persie takes a hit, as Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are given every reason to dislike Mondays…

The Player

We’ve waited for Jamie O’Hara to deliver. For weeks we’ve had him bubbling under as a Scout Pick’s consideration, pondering when his contribution to the Wolves effort will translate into Fantasy returns. We suspected it would come as soon as Mick McCarthy’s side could turn the corner and earn their first win since gameweek two. Almost inevitably, lowly Wigan were on the receiving end of a Wolves revival with O’Hara the protagonist in a 3-1 win.

A 15-point FPL haul was signposted. Our Members can see for themselves how O’Hara matches up to some of the leading Fantasy targets this season – how his creativity and threat are integral to Wolves’ chances of saving their Premier League status.

With an FPL valuation of 5.7, O’Hara’s goal and two assists seems likely to rouse interest. Right now, however, investment in O’Hara is being dwarfed by the interest shown in this weekend’s other midfield revelations – Bolton’s Chris Eagles and Norwich’s Anthony Pilkington. Both are cheaper than the Wolves man and have also shown greater consistency when it comes to returns this season.

It’s difficult to make a case for O’Hara then, although we’re pretty certain that if McCarthy can get the Wolves ship on steady waters, O’Hara will be back amongst the points on a regular basis.

The Team

Having slipped to eight defeats in nine league games, Bolton unleashed a goal frenzy on a weary Stoke City at the Reebok. Owen Coyle’s men were relentless, led by the attacking verve of reborn Chris Eagles and the recalled Ivan Klasnic.

The Croatian had a point to prove having dropped down the pecking order following his foolish red card in the gameweek five defeat to Norwich. Since then David Ngog has emerged as a contender up front, while Coyle has dropped Kevin Davies to the bench as he juggled his formation and tactics. Klasnic was back in the lineup against Stoke however, with Kevin Davies alongside him. The Potters, suffering a Europa League hangover once again, had no answer to Bolton’s desire to banish the demons of last season’s humiliating FA Cup semi-final defeat.

The emergence of Chris Eagles is of particular interest to Fantasy managers. The winger has become a major component in Coyle’s plans and, having completed 90 minutes in the last four league games, appears to have surpassed Martin Petrov as a reliable creative force, with a heightened goal threat thrown in.

Three goals and four assists is a healthy return for a midfielder priced at just 5.3 in the FPL game. While Petrov languished on the bench, Eagles seized the opportunity to take centre stage. It’s hard to say how long his flame will burn, but with Bolton entering a run of favourable enough fixtures, short-term investment seems sound.

The Talking Point

Monday morning brought a chain of events that boiled the frustration of many Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers. Having delivered another huge points haul in the 3-0 win over West Brom, Robin Van Persie lost the assist awarded for Thomas Vermaelen’s goal and dropped in the EA PPI rankings, denying him a single bonus point. Those who captained Van Persie suffered an 8-point drop in their total – green arrows suddenly turned into red – I speak from experience.

It’s hard to pin down the real issues at play here. Is it frustration with the criteria used to judge an assist? The fact that a touch from Gervinho would be enough to cancel out the cross from Van Persie which eventually found it’s way to Vermaelen’s boot?

Perhaps it’s more the process of the points being removed, the fact that it took forty-eight hours for the points awarded on Saturday, to be stripped on Monday morning.

The fact is, Gervinho touched Van Persie’s cross. That was not only the judgement of the Press Association after Monday’s review. It was also the call made by Opta who also awarded a “Goal Assist” to the Ivorian on Saturday night.

Like it or not, then, no Fantasy game in the land gave the assist to Van Persie – it’s not included in the Sky game, it’s not included in the Fantasy League and, while the Telegraph give Van Persie a “Key Contribution”, they also award the same to Gervinho – recognising that he got a touch on the Dutchman’s cross.

We had the Van Persie assist for forty-eight hours but it was never ours to have. We can argue it – re-examine footage but where do we draw the line with such disputes?

When two data providers, charged with supplying correct and accurate data for statistical purposes both say Gervinho touched it, it’s clear we’re fighting a losing battle. The same could be said of Gareth Bale’s “goal” at Fulham – the Press Association don’t stand alone here either – Bale’s goal has been awarded by Opta and all the major Fantasy Games. At what point do we have to shut up and put up?

It also seems unlikely that the new definition of an assist within the FPL ruleset is to blame in the Van Persie’s case. There were examples last season, when this definition wasn’t around, where the slightest of touches took an assist from the supplier of a cross. If an attacking player gets a touch on a cross, a flicked header for example – they gain the assist if a goal is then resultantly scored, not the cross provider. We should be used to this by now.

Van Persie’s cross was intended for Gervinho – the Ivorian fluffed his lines, missed the cross but appeared to divert the ball with his back leg after swinging with the right. A bungled, unintentional intervention but, in terms of the significance of the touch, just how far apart is this from a flick off a player’s hairline on the near post? For all the frustration, once we accept that Gervinho touched the ball, it’s hard to argue against the assist going his way.

Unless of course we push for the whole definition of an assist to be changed. Perhaps such a touch from Gervinho shouldn’t be rewarded? After all, he never intended for the ball to end up Vermaelen’s path when he swung his leg.

Interestingly, Opta have two definitions for an assist; a “goal assist” -which Gervinho earned- and an “intentional assist” – which clearly he didn’t. Do we need and want a similar system applied to the FPL – should we only reward a player if he genuinely intended to set up the scorer?

Perhaps we want the Telegraph’s Key Contribution instead – a system where more than one player can be awarded points for their role in creating a goal – in this case both Van Persie and Gervinho would have benefited.

I’m not sure that a perfect solution is available, but we can and will debate this further. While the definition of an assist in the FPL is clear, it does create cases that cause frustration and perhaps offer the need for things to be re-examined.

Personally, I’m far more frustrated by assists being awarded after positive intervention from a defender (a clearance). Demba Ba’s assist for Ryan Taylor’s goal against Everton being the latest case in point. That’s my own crusade and one I’ll go on pursuing.

Don’t get me wrong. While I’m firmly in the camp that we have to accept the fact that Van Persie did not earn an assist, I’m also aware that things are far from perfect.

It’s worth noting that the FPL did act as a result of Monday’s events by adding clarity to the rules concerning the revision of decisions. They now state the following:

“All assists are reviewed daily but remain provisional until verified by the Press Association. For the avoidance of doubt, points awarded in-game are subject to change until the Gameweek closes. Once a Gameweek closes, no further adjustments to points will be made.”

Better. Nobody can be in doubt now that, until the bonus points are allocated, assists can be added and removed. Whether we’re comfortable with that is another matter. The view is that it’s better to arrive at the correct decision later, than make a call in twenty-four hours or less and get it wrong. Again, it’s hard to argue against this. We all want a fair outcome – had Van Persie kept his assist in the FPL, it would have been the only Fantasy game to award it. That surely would not have been a fair outcome.

We want live updates on our scores, but perhaps if a decision is subject to review, at that point the associated points could be removed. Perhaps that would make the potential pill easier to swallow. Perhaps communication on decisions under review is also required.

Monday’s events have clearly raised a number of issues and, while, in my view, we have to put the specific case of Van Persie’s assist to bed, the classification of assists and the allocation of points under review, remain hot potatoes that will clearly spark further debate. Listen out for the next podcast is all I can say.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,646 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Super Drenthe
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    Hoilett anyone???

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    1. kidblast
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No, I just went.

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      1. Super Drenthe
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        😆

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    2. Pat Mustard
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      If he was classed as a midfielder yes.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        He is in the Metro League, if that helps. 😉

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    3. Scroobius Mac
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Shame he's POO.

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      1. Oscy23
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        his team is.
        his actually been a consistent fpl player this season

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  2. unoaime
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    Kompany, Bosingwa, Wilkinson, Simpson, Boyata

    Bosingwa out? But for who? And do i need to do a transfer tonight before any price rises or are any likely to transfer in defenders looking safe?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Jones IMO. Enrique could be worth considering - poor fixture for now though.

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    2. Jukesy
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think Sunderland and Everton defenses are looking good. I have a preference to Everton as they've got good long term fixtures (10 GWs).

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      1. unoaime
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Hmm. I was considering Sunderland defenders but not Everton. Off to take a look at their prices now.

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        1. unoaime
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Seems too expensive tbh. Not sure i want to invest in Baines and they've not shown enough form for me to warrant spended 5.4 on Jagielka.

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          1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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            12 years, 6 months ago

            Hibbert at 4.8?

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    3. An Púca
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      would you not get rid of Boyata?

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  3. Twelve years a slave
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    The time to lose Shay Given has arrived , his price will fall this week

    After much consideration have gone for Westward the sunderland keeper. Should plaay until around xmas time , when we can all wildcard anyway.
    Has the best fixtures of all the cheapies and rotates well with Vorn

    Sorted

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Unfortunately I have to let given drop, I have already taken a 4 point hit.
      At least your replacing one Irish keeper with another gives consistency to the back four 🙂

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    2. Anorak
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Might be joining you on that one.
      Not sure I trust Sunderland to make the most of those fixtures, but then maybe it will just encourage me to play Vorm more often.

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      1. An Púca
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        thinking of that transfer myself...but Gordon is back in the next week or so!!! Careful there

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        1. Twelve years a slave
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Gordon not even starting training until the end of november , and Mingolet out for two months , Westward looks safe till xmas

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        2. Anorak
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          12 years, 6 months ago

          Hmmmm

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      2. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Was either Westwood , or saving even more money and going for the Norwich keeper , think Westward has chances of a few cleanies in the leadup to xmas , so went for him

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        1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Do you think there is a chance he could become Suderland's No1?
          Only thing that worries me is lack of security, are the other keepers out for the next few months for sure?

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          1. Twelve years a slave
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            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Google them , Mingolet two months with broken eye scocket , Gordon not even resumed training yet and several months away from first team action.
            The manager is going to bring in an on loan keeper to cover for westwood.

            Unless he plays really terribly he is safe till xmas.

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            1. ColeHole
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              12 years, 6 months ago

              Westwood was signed as a potential replacement for gordon and a long term contender for the No.1 spot.

              This is his chance imo...

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      I am going to lose him but wasnt planning to yet - got De Lol and Cabaye to shift. Ruddy, Westwood or Krul for me. Already got Vorm.

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  4. Mull
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    What are your thoughts on this wildcard team?

    Howard, Vorm
    Kompany, Jones, Brown, Taylor, McAuley
    VDV, Silva, Sessengon, Drenthe, Formica
    RVP, Rooney, Graham

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    1. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure about Formica myself. Have a feeling you might want to ditch him really soon. Joe Allen?

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      1. Mull
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I wouldn't want to double up on Swansea attack though.

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      2. Granville
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Or save a Million on Westwood rather than Howard, then go for a 6m replacement for Formica. O'Hara?

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        1. Mull
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          12 years, 6 months ago

          The plan is to rotate Formica and Graham as they have perfect home/away rotation.

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    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      First time I have seen Howard picked besides the usual. I looked at him as an option instead of given.
      It might either be madness or genius!
      Question are you going to rotate keepers or just play Vorm?

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      1. Twelve years a slave
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Looked at Howard , he not exactly cheap , especially considering Evertons form , imo not worth the extra

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      2. Mull
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Howard and Vorm have perfect rotation so I will rotate them. The next 10 fixtures between them are WOL,AVL,STO,FUL,NOR,SWA,QPR,wba,BOL,ARS.

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        1. Anorak
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          12 years, 6 months ago

          Interesting. Rotation is good isn't it.

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          1. Mull
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Yes.

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        2. Waldaz
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          12 years, 6 months ago

          Vorm rotates with Vorm, end of.

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          1. Mull
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            They conceded 3 against Norwich away, saturday was quite lucky imo.

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    3. Shakhtar Senseless
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      I'd ditch Taylor, your doubling on Swansea defence. I'd go for Wilkinson, Boyata or Hibbert.

      Rather than Formica, I'd hold off and wait for Clev to come back.

      Upgrade Graham to Bentdner.

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    4. Anorak
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Few too many risks in that lot for me - unless the plan is to play the second one in Jan.
      Still too many game weeks to limp through to play that game I think.

      PS - which Taylor? Raylor, Saylor or Naylor?
      Actually saw a story this week about Derby looking to sign Mansfield's Tom Naylor. Presumably if he graced FFS, he would be, um, Taylor?

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      1. Mull
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Naylor

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  5. boofstein
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Hopefully O'Hara picks up a yellow vs Everton so he'll be banned for Chelsea and I can consider getting him back in worry free!

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  6. BD948
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    RMWCT please?

    Vorm. Hennessey
    Jones. Brown. Simpson. Tierney. Wilkinson
    VDV. Silva. Sinclair. Ramsey. Eagles
    Rooney-VP-Klasnic

    Have 1.1 in bank to possibly get Enrique after next 2 weeks

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Double bolton - I know the just won 5-0 but is that really necessary?

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Apart from that I like - maybe McAuley over Tierney?

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      2. BD948
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        No. Gonna get rid of one, but dont know which one to lose and who to get in!

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    2. Shakhtar Senseless
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Kneejerking a bit there. I'd go for one of Eagles or Klasnic. There's not enough money in your defence/goalkeepers.

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    3. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Dont like your defence at all, apart from Simpson and Brown

      Jones is subject to rotation , which wouldnt be a problem except the rest of your defence is weak , so if Jones didnt play his replcement would be rubbish.
      Wilkinson is also far from a nailed on starter. Tierney is , but unlikely to keep a cleanie .
      Brown ok

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    4. Twelve years a slave
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I would also go Sessegron over Sinclair due to better fixtures , but thats just a personal opinion , nothing wrong with Sinclair

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    5. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Wouldn't go for 2 Bolton attackers. Either Eagles out for one of the usual suspects at 6.4 and below (Sess, Drenthe, Walters, Cleverley) or Klasnic out for someone like Bendtner (ugh) or Even Sturridge (too soon to write him off) maybe?

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    6. BD948
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ye, I meant to have McAuley in for Tierney, but wrote Tierney for some reason!

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    7. BD948
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      Is this better?

      Vorm. Ruddy
      Kompany. Brown. Simpson. McAuley. Wilkinson
      Silva. VDV. Sess. Ramsey. Sinclair
      Rooney-VDV-Klasnic??

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        If you want Enrique, I would put him in now instead of Simpson who has stinkers too,and bench him the next two. Saves a transfer which you may need elsewhere by then.

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  7. richie1000
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    will nasri get a few games or what is going on there

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    1. 4vets
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      He'll get a few, how many nobody knows!

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  8. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Is there any chance the fpl will scrap this bench thing?
    In other words pick the highest scoring players on your team instead, then bench the lowest scoring (excluding captain and VC)
    As you can tell I am not great with squad selection...same thing every year great team crap choices.

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      -1 😉

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    2. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Never gonna happen.

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    3. Anorak
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Nope - can't see it.
      Squad selection is a key part of the game that differentiates from many others.

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    4. King Eric, in America
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      With respect: silly idea.

      And I had Vorm benched this week - so I feel your pain.

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    5. Jonah
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      To my eyes, you have just suggested that the FPL take the best aspect of their game and scrap it. Think about how much the possible tactics and strategy of the game is expanded outwards by the existence of the bench. Everyone's team would be more similar, and the variation of points would be far decreased.

      Worst post ever, in my opinion.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        You need to get on here more Jonah if you think that was the worst ever post.

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        fart

        ^^^
        that's worse

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  9. Salah’s Sonnet
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    12 years, 6 months ago

    Hiya lads, just looking for some overviews of my team, i'm in quite low morale about it. I usually play a 3-4-3

    Given
    BAE, Enrique, Simspon
    Silva, Ramsey, VDV, Walters
    Torres, RVP, Suarez

    Subs: Ruddy, N.Taylor, e Laet, Ferguson.

    Aside from the dreaded De Laet & Ferguson duo, (which i plan to ship out soon as), i kinda feel i have more pressing matters in my goalkeeper, mids, and forward line.

    I need to grab some united coverage, could do a straight swap for Torres & Suarez TO Aguero & Hernandez for a 4 point hit? But i also wanna change my keeper, i just dunno though as Torres and suarez could both have good games when they meet in GW 12, all big games have seemed to be high scoring this season (Man u & man c, chels & ars, chels & united).

    Know i've wrote a lot but, any help would be most appreciated 🙂

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Lose Torres-->Hernandez!! Then downgrade Suarez if you like to 6-7M striker and use cash to spend of De Laet and Ferguson - simples.

      Agree about Given. I got Vorm to and will downgrade Given to Westwood/Krul/Ruddy to spend cash elsewhere.

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    2. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Your most pressing worries are De Laet & Ferguson. The rest can score home or away so forget about them.

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    3. Demí
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      12 years, 6 months ago

      I think you should downgrade Given to Vorm whilst he's still 4.4, maybe do it after Swansea-United.

      defence looks good. apart from delaet. Swap him for Wilkinson or someone in that bracket who's nailed on. Think you can go without United cover for the next 2 games atleast, Swansea and Newcastle & then sell Torres for Rooney/Hernandez. You considered Dzeko? Not this gameweek, but maybe after that. He looks like a potential bargain, for city cover.

      P.s. do you write "lads" and a smiley face on every post you make? 🙂

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        How very inclusive of you Demi! 🙂 I'm sure there are a few women here that are beating the likes of you and me in the rank status but can't be arsed to post in such a testosteroned fueled environment such as this.

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          😆

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          1. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Actually, make that beating just me. You had a great score last gw, and well deserved. Congrats.

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            1. Demí
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              Cheers 4vets. I tend not to get too upbeat about it though. A good score 1 week is usually followed by disappointment the next. I've got my eye on you though, you're going to catch up and i wont know what's hit me 🙂

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      2. Menly
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Im not even sure if Utd will do that well vs swansea at home! And im a rooney owner!

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          So am I and I have Vorm in goal next gw..

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      3. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah i've considered dzeko, looks like he could slide in nicely but bit unsure about him for some reason.

        Haha! yeah, the smiley thing is a bit of a habit, just nice to be nice i guess, i shall not include one on this message.

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    4. Mull
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Over the next few weeks downgrade to 4 big players as five is crippling your team, after that upgrade your 4.0's gradually to build a squad and not a team of 11.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        this point especially is great, cheers.

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    5. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      It's a decent team that could have some big weeks so no need to panic. You do not NEED Utd coverage (although I'd rather have Rooney ahead of Torres) If you insist on Aguero wait, he is going down in price.

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    6. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Stick to your team phase players out gradually.
      Don't make loads of -8 hits and esp not -12 hits.
      You will only end up falling or at best still threading fantasy water.
      Good luck!
      If you look at Mark (Aka Yoda) or (Aka OB1) Granville's team they rarely take a points hit.

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        They don't need to, they throw everyone off the track with the scout picks! 😉

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    7. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers lads, really really appreciate the comments, sound advice from you lot as always 🙂

      Shall do as advised and take all into consideration 🙂

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        But i am a lady

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        1. Salah’s Sonnet
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          oh? i never knew that, in that case, cheers madam ha.

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          1. Demí
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            lol, just kidding. Good luck

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            1. Salah’s Sonnet
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 6 months ago

              i am the most gullable person in the world, so i feel no shame in falling for that one ha! Actually, shouldn't of said that, i'll believe every prank or spoof aimed at me now lol.

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  10. 7923dos
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Tiote & Suarez > Bale & Klasnic sound alright?

    Already have VDV

    Cheers!

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  11. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Krul/Vorm
    Naylor/Saylor/Wilkinson/Brown/McAuley
    Lampard/YaYa/Bale/Sessegnon/Eagles
    Rooney/RVP/Dzeko

    BOOM!!!!

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sorry should be Walters instead of Sessegnon

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    2. tezzaboy7
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Lampard to Mata, Yaya to Silva, Bale to VDV if money allows. If not then keep Bale.Other than that tho that i a mighty fine team.

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  12. EL TANO
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    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    ...

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  13. Menly
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Alrighty i'm hovering over the transfer button Murphy > Sess before his price goes up.
    Any objections before i kiss the bride?

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes! The bridesmaid is sexier, but I forget her name 😉

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      1. Menly
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Oh no not Royston! I mean i fancied a go but im not sure if her stunning performance was just a one off

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Apologies, I've just snogged her and now she's all mine! 😉

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          1. Menly
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Oh come on man! Actually to hell with it i'm the one getting married here.
            Promise you won't try it with my fiancee? 😀

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    2. EL TANO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      dont sweat on a rise
      read my vitriolic post below

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      1. Menly
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        well ive only got a 0.2 leeway and i may need that!

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        1. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          First half of the season I take gambles with rises/falls as it usually pays off (how often does a player get injured?). This week I am not happy as I have transferred early and taken a hit...

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          1. Menly
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 6 months ago

            Ah no worries im sure it'll turn out fine 🙂 I reckon im gonna do t now, Murphy's time is up

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  14. The Dude
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Given (Vorm)
    Kompany, Shawcross, Gabbidon (Simpson, Shotton)
    Drenthe, Silva, VDV, OHara (Moses)
    Rooney, RVP, Sturridge

    Couple of quick votes please

    Who to bench
    1) Moses
    2) OHara

    1FT 0.0 in bank
    A) Given -> Hennessy / Westwood / Schwarzer (I would get Westwood in but will he keep his place?)
    B) Shotton -> Wilkinson / McAuley
    C) Save transfer
    D) Other

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      bench moses.

      A and B are both good moves. Looking to chop Given myself for Ruddy/Westwood or Krul. Like you I am weary of Gordon's imminent return.

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      1. The Dude
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers, Westwood is too much of a risk but may be worth it short term. Krul is the best option under 5.0. I may wait a couple of fixtures to get Krul and do B) this week.

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  15. EL TANO
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    i think i must have been moderated on my last post coz I used the word w...ker to describe the fpl site who seem to be blocking price rises again over the int break
    I played my wildcard early to avopid drops and grab some rises and looks like the top risers are not clicking over
    Did we figure out last time that they do this on purpose...if so, then I stand by my swear word

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    1. Taribo West on a free
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Cry me a river.

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    2. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I'm sure it's a "glitch" or something equally stupid. Either way, I can feel for you.

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      I got modded for saying 'briefcase w*nker' - if they can say it on The Simpsons surely we can say it on here?!

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  16. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Evening buachallí

    Am i right in thinking (assuming there will be rises tonight) that the probable risers are Bale, RVP, Eagles and possibly Dzeko and Pilkington?

    Anyone i'm missing?

    Cheers

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    1. cechmate
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Sess, Vorm, Walker likely too

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      1. RoyaleBlue
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Maybe Taylor R

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      2. iCon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        who's more likely of a double rise this GW...Pilkington or Sess?

        I reckon Sess, but the Pilk panther is ahead according to TFPL....

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        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Probably nobody due to lack of price rises. 🙁

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  17. richie1000
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    howard kurl

    kompany jones jagielka ekotto enrique

    cabaye nasri silva arteta bannan

    torres ade, graham

    i know i have torres but surely he has to start scoreing im not doing to well lads help

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    1. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Graham got some hard games swap him for Holt maybe Holt has better fixtures

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    2. richie1000
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      anyone

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Get your wildcard out

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Torres has done nothing of note for nearly a whole year. STAY AWAY!!

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  18. RoyaleBlue
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Two midfielders for 10 mil suggestions?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Allen and Eagles

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      1. Mull
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Great minds...

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Pfft... my two are far better 😀

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    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Eagles and Allen.

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Eallen & Agles? 😉

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Nice difs...

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Allen and Eagles

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Its a landslide!

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Haha, but I don't have either, one cheap mf for me.

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    4. An Púca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Pilkington and Allen

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    5. Menly
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yippeee i came before the Eaglewagon

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    6. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You're welcome Tozy. Oh sorry, I thought you thanked all the nice people who gave you a reply. Consider yourself added to the ungrateful git list!

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      1. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Sometimes I cant help but think we are helping ungrateful gits, having them catching up with us in the game

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  19. champion_elect
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Who does this mcauley play for? Seems popular?..

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      West Brom, Centre back

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      1. champion_elect
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        ta

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    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      WBA

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  20. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Why did price rises not go up last night?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Seems to be a pattern developing that the criteria changes during an International break week and more transfers are required to have a positive or negative effect.

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I don't think that was true during the first inty break as I made loads, but I might be wrong.

        Either way, something is afoot, just wish it could be identified.

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          If I recall, it started very slowly then gained momentum..

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  21. 4vets
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    It's time for bed! Sleep well all.

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      You too

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  22. mlmc123
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Help!
    this is my current squad:
    (given) (ruddy)
    enrique simpson (shawcross) kompany brown
    silva vdv walters (tiote) (petrov)
    adebyor suarez rvp

    i have one free transfer and 0.5m in the bank
    should i a)use my free transfer to get given out for vorm whilst hes at 4.4
    b) use my one transfer for something else eg midfield
    c)play my wildcard now, tonight, before rises come in for some of the people i'd be interested in im a first timer on this game and everyone always talks about how they wished they had saved there wildacrd untila fter january, so should i??
    btw the players in brackets are the ones i would definately get out if i had a wildcard
    thanks
    so much

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      That team doesn't need a WC imo. The start of the int break isn't the worst time to take a hit if it saves / makes you a bit of money. I'd probably lose Petrov ot Tiote asd a priority, and maybe Given to Vorm as well.

      Most people would say don't take a hit for a def / keeper, but if it's for long-term (which any keeper transfer should be) it's fine, I'd say.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        *Petrov or Tiote as a priority

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    2. FplBerg
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Petrov out for Drenthe/Sessegnon/Formica, and bench Simpson.

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    3. Holy See
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure I'd bring in Vorm for the Utd match, but he did just have a cs at Anfield so who knows really. Petrov-Drenthe is an option. Can't imagine I'd wilcard with that lot.

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      1. mlmc123
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        ok thanks definately wont wildcard then so should i
        a) go petrov to drenthe/ sessegnon if so who
        b) go given to vorm for the long term and do the above and take a 4pt hit which im very reluctant to do
        c) just go given to drenthe

        i know givens is bound to drop soon as is petrov so advice really needed

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  23. Pickled and Preserved
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Any word on this stall on price changes? Would have waited longer for my first transfer if I wasn't racing a price drop..

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    1. Pickled and Preserved
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      question answered above! sorry for not reading

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    2. Holy See
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      No word & perhaps never will be. Would be nice if it was in the rules that rises won't occur at certain times, to stop people wasting their time trying to optimise transfers. I could waste it doing something else then 😉

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      1. Pickled and Preserved
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah, I admit to having ignored rises and falls completely last season. This season they are so drastic though that I've had to pay more attention.

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  24. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Thought i'd post this if nobody has seen it, new contender for longest goal from a header.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2011/oct/31/new-longest-headed-goal-video

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    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Never trust a goalkeeper in Pink.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        haha! so true.

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  25. SC not pearls before swine
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Worth taking out Given for Vorm with United coming to town? Or should I wait and sacrifice the ₤s?

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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Who's your other keeper? Given's unlikely to keep a cleanie at Spurs, so if you've got no more pressing transfers I'd do it.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        +1. I would certainly lose of Given or warnock this week.

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      2. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        The one, the only, john ruddy...

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        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Same combo as me. Good rotation... 🙄

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    2. piers
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Neither Vorm or Given likely to keep a CS. I have both and no idea which to play though edging towards Vorm just cos he's at home. L'pool match means nothing - Man Utd won't be as profligate in front of goal. I'm expecting 2 or 3pts tops.

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  26. piers
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Am I crazy to be thinking of doing:

    Ramsey => Sess
    Agbon => Bendy

    ?????

    Sunderland haven't been that bad this season. A few sloppy draws at home and some understandable losses to Che, Arse and ManU. A loss away to Norwich possibly their only shocker. GD +1 whilst teams around them in the negatives. I'm thinking they might get some results over the next four games.

    On the other hand I got burned by Sess earlier in the season and I think that Bendy is a prize w@*ker.

    Thoughts on a postcard!!

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Yes IMO. I certainly wouldn't get rid of either of those players for now. Despite Agbonlahor's fixtures I think he will get points.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        If you want Sess lose Murphy IMO...

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        1. piers
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks. Good call on Murphy.

          I just look at Villa next 3 fixtures and I see him struggling. Away to Swansea might buck the trend, but 1 goal conceded all season is a scary stat. Also 4 of 5 goals scored at home...

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    2. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Ramsess
      Agbendylor

      FPL's equivalent to mash-up is here!

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      1. piers
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        lolz

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  27. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Is it worth to get Jones in for Lescott? I can see newcastle scoring against Man City but i don't really know if Jones is nailed on, Is he?

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    1. piers
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Could be a different game now with Newc's midfield decimated.

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      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I think it could easily be a Friendly International break decimation of troops, who miraculously recover on Saturday lunchtime immediately prior to the league games. 🙂

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  28. pstokes2010
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    why were there no price rises last night?

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    1. teto
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Read above

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      1. pstokes2010
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        can see it

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    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      FPL Towers Christmas party planning meeting which got out of hand, and when they got back to the office about 01.00 nobody could remember the building entry combination. It was in the Guardian this morning.

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  29. Football is Life
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    What are the chances of Nani, Aguero, Dzeko starting on Sat 19th. Rate each out of 100%

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    1. teto
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      Was looking at last int break and Dzeko didnt start. Im looking to bring him in but not sure now

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      70, 90, 50

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      1. Gaz Downright
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 6 months ago

        I buy this

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    3. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      50% 80% 80%

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    4. FplBerg
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      80, 95, 40

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    5. piers
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      70, 95, 80

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    6. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 6 months ago

      50% 50% 50% They either will or they won't

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  30. andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 6 months ago

    Loving MW3!

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