Euro 2012

Picklive Tournaments – Strategy Guide

Last week Picklive launched their suite of Euro 2012 games which included the new Tournament mode. They’re running this across various intervals including groups, the group matches and the tournament as a whole. They’ve stumped up some decent prize pots, including £2500 in prizes in their big Tournament game.

With the Scout having launched a free to play tournament and a £5 entry prize tournament, we thought we’d throw a simple guide your way, helping you take your research gathered for other Fantasy games and use it to win some cash with Picklive.

Predict the Final Four

With no transfers and a limit of three players per country, in Picklive’s full tournament game you’re basically looking to predict the four semi-finalists and reflect this in your lineup. The final four nations will, after all, play at least one more match than any other team and therefore their players are more than likely to be amongst the top scoring players in the game. The aim has to be to have a full 11 players in the final four. You can spread the risk across more than four nations if you prefer but, unless you make some absolutely inspired selections, you’re likely to be kept out of the top places by squads with a full compliment of players in the semis.

You’ll need to do some homework here (perhaps Alan Hansen could help you out), to work out the most likely teams to qualify from the groups and who they will meet in the knockouts as the tournament progresses. If six of your players meet in the Quarter-Finals, for example, you’re already three men short for the semis. This could go badly wrong, of course, which is why, if you’re serious about competing for prizes, it’s worth considering a second entry. More on that in a bit.

Find the Certainties

While selecting the odd differential will more than likely prove to make the difference, at the same time, you need to pick players who look assured of their starts. Opting for the likes of Fernando Torres or Klass-Jan Huntelaar would be a gamble – yes, they’ll get some pitch time but, ideally, you need players guaranteed to start and unlikely to be hauled off after the hour mark just as the opposition tire.

Avoid the Card Magnets

In the midst of tournament play, the yellow card count can mount up. Picklive punishes bookings with a 3 point penalty, with red cards picking up minus 5. That’s a hefty fine and suggests that, when shopping for defenders, you need to perhaps prioritise level-headed full-backs who are less likely to get on the wrong side of the ref.

4-3-3 is King

While there are other formations available, the fact that hat-tricks are awarded with 10 extra points definitely suggests a chosen XI which favours attacking players. Three strikers looks the preferred option, then – after all, front men are certainly the most likely to get amongst the goals. Granted, midfielders earn one more point for scoring but the hat-trick rule looks to lean the advantage back in favour of the forwards.

Pick a Second Differentials Eleven

Picklive allows for at least two teams per tournament – in the big Tournament long game, with an enticing £2500 on show, they allow for five teams per user. If you’re playing safe with one entry, you might want to invest another entry in a second set of players. If you can successfully predict the surprise packages in terms of nations, you’ve a great chance of stumbling upon one or two players who will prove huge differentials. Should Poland reach the final, for example, having any three of Franciszek Smuda’s side in one of your teams would almost guarantee a big bump up the Picklive rankings.

Your Picklive Tournaments

As well as the big prize tournament game, Picklive enables you to set up your own leagues and tournaments. Indeed, they’ve also just launched a tournament for all office workers. If you email olly@picklive.com to get a league set up, then you and your colleagues can enter their teams. Whoever has the highest individual score will be representing your office in their office league and with it the chance to win £1000 of treats from Picklive to share.

You’ll need a Picklive account to play all these games and, if you enter the ‘ffscout’ Promo code when you make your first deposit, you’ll get a free £5 in your account.

Picklive accounts are only available to those aged 18 or over and, while the game is playable in some countries outside of the UK and Ireland, Picklive’s terms and conditions apply. That includes a fee of £20 for any prize withdrawals from a non-UK registered credit card.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,192 Comments Post a Comment
  1. mikess
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    This 5 or 6 players debate on day 1 is all bull. At the end of the day
    just aim to have a few players from group D and
    whoever does crap swap them in. Jobs a good un.
    Thats max 4 changes including the inevitable
    group C goalie swap.

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    1. bunk_medal
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I agree, the aim should be to have three players on the last day so you can swap players in for those who play poorly. Doesn't really matter if the rest of the team plays on the first day or not, though you should have at least one captain choice for the first game.

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  2. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    In your opinion who are the best DF and best 2MFs to have for 18.5m?

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  3. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Almost the final destination !!

    Greece GK

    Alba Maniatis Piszczek Berut

    Ozil Sneijder Kuba Shirokov

    RVP Jella

    SubL Given Ibra Larsson Debuch

    any thought, tks 😀

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      dubble up on greece defence + piszcek and kuba(i dont like it)
      Larsson and Ibra-i dont like it as well

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        any good 4M def ? I cant find it to replace Maniatis (Strinic not nailed on)

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          check update about cro team,i think that strinic is nailed on and 4.0M isn't a big risk

          https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ET0EULRYtJUZ7g9m_iS40ochHpy133RyvArrxenifT4/edit

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          1. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            ok, cheers Forca, then sharing the risk by Manistis --> Strinic.

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        piszcek and kuba have good a season at Bundesliga? they will be the main source of Polland attack.

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          nothing wrong with them .....they both are fanastic picks,but why would you dubble up at greece defence if you think that poland will win?

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  4. crystalpalaceRus
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    So now Benzema is a doubt?

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      it's strange that you keep asking infos about Frnace players after you harshed me and say that England is so fantastic

      very delusional

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        ok?

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          you predict that england will destry france but yet you wanna debuchy+benzema in your team

          it dosn't make any sense

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          1. crystalpalaceRus
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Show me anywhere where ive said England will destroy france? I think England will come 2nd in the group, hop off my posts please

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            1. FORCA INTER
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              other than me nobody wanna replay at your posts 😉

              chill out dude

              p.s-england will finissh 4th

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              1. crystalpalaceRus
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 months ago

                Grow up

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  5. Abominable Snowy84
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Alba looking like my 3rd day captain!! Just goes to show how McDonalds have done a good job in making things hard!

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  6. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Only England would cleverly base themselves in Poland when they are playing their group games in Ukraine

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    1. Abominable Snowy84
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I read somewhere that only 3 teams including the hosts have based themselves in the Ukraine. Logistical reasons.

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      1. Manamongst
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        called safety.

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    2. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yeah Netherlands,Italy and England are all based in Krakow,poland even though they play in Ukraine..

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  7. BONZ
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    If looking for a Euro predictor game and a league to join - try IKTS
    http://predictor.talksport.co.uk
    Code: F4CDA-SIN

    Also if you got a team in Metro join in 103023 Metro Eu Lge

    Not too long to go.........Get your teams in NOW!!

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  8. satsumo
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Anybody doing the Sky fantasy league? Would like to talk tactics with someone!

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I am... But not sure I'm the right person to talk tactics with.. I had enough trouble logging in 🙂

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      1. satsumo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I took too long to reply so I commented on the first post on the next page -> haha

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  9. mufc802
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    That's it no more tinkering, I decided to go with both Afellay and Sneijder because both could easily have a blinder. I think Ronaldo will be up for this tournament and he will score against Germany. The France England game will be low scoring imo especially without Rooney, England will be defensive which is why I chose Lescott.

    Chalkias
    Strinic Alba Berezutski Perquis
    Afellay Sherkov Sneijder Ozil
    Ronaldo Lewandowski(c)

    Given Ibra Kallstrom Lescott

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  10. Freshy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    (A) Debuchy and Andrews
    or
    (B) Maniatis and Konoplyanka

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    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      A

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    2. satsumo
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      B

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  11. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Who's up for a game of hardcore domination, on PS?

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    1. BONZ
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      sounds really grubby that!

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Grubby or not, you in bonz?

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      I was getting worried until I got to the "on PS" bit at the end.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        I just lol'd man. Guess i could've rephrased that sentence.

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  12. beric
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I did appreciate earlier comments, but I'd love it if one of you RMTer's that realy give a bit of analysis to have a look. I'm thinking of you Camzy, JK, Demi etc....

    ------------------Given-----Isaksson----------------

    Berezutski-Maniatis-Piszczek-Albe-Selassie

    --Mandzukic--Dzagoev--Gusev--Ozil--Afellay--

    --------Muller--Van Persie--Ibrahimovic-------

    Thanks

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Hmm terrible grammer. I think it just about makes sense.

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Ey man, was looking for you on the last page. Sorry to hear Hughton is managing Norwich next season

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah man, its a bummer.

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    2. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Forca? Mandzukic - Yes or No?

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      i am not sure about Isaksson cause he play at last day and SWE defence isn't so good
      Gusev is good punt and MF looks good
      solid team

      who is selassie??

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Cze defender, will definitly start, I have a vision of Isaksson getting loads of saves and clean sheet.

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        i looked at gusev myself but heard someone say he was playing at r/b. good recent form though and appears to be on pens.

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          RB, Really?

          I hadn't heard that, I thought he was right mid. Might have to go Konolyanka and upgrade Selassie.

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            i'm ot 100% on that beric just what someone said the other day. it put me off him to be honest. double check though

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          2. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            zonal marking also have him showing as r/b i just checked but even thats not 100%

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          3. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            At right-back, Oleg Husiev is a right-winger dropped deeper and it shows – he motors up and down the flank but can be positionally unreliable and is the weakest player defensively. (source: zonal)

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            1. beric
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              Right, gunna have to change him up then. Thanks mate

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    4. Mull
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Bad keeper combo. I can't see one of them keeping a clean sheet and by the looks of your front 8 neither do you.
      Alba is good. I'd pick only 2 defenders from Group A and maybe have a keeper from group A also. I recommend Strinic as a replacement.
      Front 8 is very nice but you don't have a decent captain from Group C if Mandzukic doesn't start. Who is Gusev btw?

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Gusev is Ukranian, possibly on pen's and set pieces and has excellent recent form.

        I don't mind too much having most of my defenders in the first week, I'll sub out all the non performers. Strinic may not start, and I don't want too many unsure ones.

        Point taken about goalie though. I might downgrade Gusev -> Konoplyanka giving me 5.5 for a replacement for Isaksson.

        Thanks for the advice Mull

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Although all the Keepers for 5.5 or less that could be worth having are also in group A

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          1. Mull
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            That's what I mean when I say buy elsewhere. Also have you considered doubling up on Poland/Russia?

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            1. beric
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              I want Dzagoev, so can't double Russia. I am thinking of doubling Greece or Poland for my keeper. but it does mean even more defence form A. I'm not sure that really matters though, at least one of the teams chould keep a clean sheet, then I'll have Alba and sub out the rest of them for attackers.

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    5. udit
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Good puntsy differentials in there, lose isaksson, sweden probably won't keep a CS, it's very different, like gusev, don't like Mandzukic. Might not start ❓ Else is good.

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers Udit.

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Also first dibs is still yours on that position?

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          1. beric
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Cheers man, but I dunno how much I'll be around over the tournament, I might not be able to keep track of my team. My whole life has pretty much been turned upside down 🙁

            It wouldn't be fair on Daniel, and I don't want that guy moaning at me 😉

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            1. udit
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              I understand obviously, just thought I'd ask you once again. Ha daniel gets pretty grumpy at times

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              1. beric
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 months ago

                I've never spoken to him really, and even I'd noticed 😉

                I will be supporting him and whoever he partners in the cup though.

                Thanks again Buddy

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                1. udit
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 11 months ago

                  No problem buddy 🙂

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  13. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Suggestions for the last spot in my front eight?

    Shirokov - Ozil - Afellay - ________ - Kuba

    Ibra - Podolski - RVP

    I've 6m to spend. 🙂

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Mandzukic, Konoplyanka

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    2. Abominable Snowy84
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Mandy or Kono

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    3. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      mandzukic

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Dont you have Konoplyanka?

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          yes i do

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    4. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        Get Mandzukic mate, I have Konopynaka and Krohn-Dehli.

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  14. Scratch
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Right here’s my team.. which i’m still not happy with.

    Chalkias, Given
    Kadlec, Zhirkov, Debuchy, Perquis, Alba
    Ozil, Mandzukic, Shirokov, Kallstrom, Affelay
    Lewandowski, van Persie, Benzema

    Not sure about Affelay I think there’s too strong a chance of Kuyt getting the nod ahead but the value in it is difficult to resist.
    Not too happy with Kallstrom either but there’s very little available for £6m and under.

    Any suggestions?

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  15. rosh22
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Hey Guys, Please RMT, my first draft

    Szezney - Given
    Alba-Olsson-Strinic-Limbersky -Maniatis
    Ozil-Young-Afellay-Shirokov-Obraniak
    Klose-RVP-Ibra

    Clearly the def is very weak with the exception of Alba? But do you think the attack makes up for it?

    Anyone I should take out to upgrade the def? But to which defender?

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    1. mufc802
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Who is Limbersky, is he a starter?

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  16. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Broken Boiler, ergh.

    Pretty sure the pilot just needs relighting, but absolutely no idea how to do that. Pity it went out of production 6 years ago.....

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  17. wee man
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    rmt

    shezny, Given
    lescott, berezutski Debuchy, strinic, Alba
    Ozil, sneijder, Shirokov, Kuba, Andrews
    toivonen, van Persie, podolski

    any comments?

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  18. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    So does everyone have their group D players on the bench atm ready to swap in?

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      yup

      3 group D players here

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    2. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      How many manager subs can you make in a gw?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        As many as you like, but remember that they cannot be undone

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        1. Heydudes13
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          So I currently have Toivonen, Jordi Alba and Strinic on the bench if Strinic does badly after I swapped him in, can I not take him back out again therefore, it being best to have all your group D players on the bench initially?

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Strinic can be subbed in then out again, thats fine.

            I would just start with your group D players on the bench, and then just decide who to sub in for on sunday night

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            1. Heydudes13
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              What do you mean they cannot be undone then?

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              1. Heydudes13
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 months ago

                Do I have to wait until the game's played until I can sub them back out again

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            2. Heydudes13
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              Monday night you mean?

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    3. QPR Lad 92
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yeh, I got Nasri/Rami/Lescott

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  19. Demí
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    AOC and Yash still here? Going to start the auction as soon as a i get a couple more, so you need to be ready for most of tonight.

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    1. Heydudes13
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      ok

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    2. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yepp still here, and thats ok, thanks 🙂

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        no problem

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    3. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Im up for an auction Demi

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        45026 is the code.

        Don't know when i'll start but it will be some time in the next hour, with 15/30 minutes between each round, be ready for it.

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        1. Webbinho
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Can I join or are you full? I'm free all night for bids

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          1. Demí
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Yep, join.

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        2. Freshy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers
          In and waiting

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    4. yash
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

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  20. Dale Cooper
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    I've been out of action for the past few weeks and am not familiar with the possible lineups for the 1st round. What do you think of this team:

    Chalkias, Given
    Piszczek, Alba, Debuchy, M Olsson, Holebas
    Ozil, Ribery, Affelay, Shirokov, Konoplyanka
    RVP, Ibrahimovic, Balotelli (yes, really)

    I'd really want to get some Spain att coverage, but just can't think of any decent option - probably Iniesta being the closest. The same applies to Italy, though I finally decided on getting Balotelli.

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    1. wee man
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      MARIO?

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  21. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Okay, last decision to make before I leave my team alone(Yeah, right)

    Andersen/Muller

    or

    Given/Torres

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    1. Djerbil
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      A

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        +1

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  22. chilin_dude
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Any news on Baros? Did he train alone today or with the rest? Cheers

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  23. Djerbil
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Strinic or Gebra Sellasie??

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Well Sellasie more nailed onm, Strnic more likely to keep a CS.

      Have you seen my Group C preview btw?

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      1. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        yeah...seen it in the Website but did u also post it in FFS?? Can u give me the comment link then??

        Nice one btw..

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    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Strinic - more clean sheet potential IMO whereas Czech Republic will almost certainly concede.

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      1. Djerbil
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 11 months ago

        is he sure to start??

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        1. Kostja
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 11 months ago

          unlikely, looked crap last game too IMO

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          1. Djerbil
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 11 months ago

            Is Perquis a starter for Poland??

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            1. Dale Cooper
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 11 months ago

              Definitely

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              1. Dale Cooper
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 11 months ago

                (coming from a Polish fan)

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  24. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Menly are you still around?

    On another note, Group D preview on the way, am just finishing it off.

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    1. udit
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks JK you da man.

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  25. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Hi Guys

    Could I please have your advice on who are the best DF and best 2MFs to have in order to fill the blanks

    Cech Given

    Maggio Zhirkov Debuchy Perquis ?

    Young Shirokov Ozil ? ?

    Robben Ibrahmovic Lewandowski

    18.5m in bank

    Any help and advice would be really be grateful

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  26. Blue Lion
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Who's Crotia's No.1 Goalie?

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    2. Sarnab
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      Anderson

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  27. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    how do you like this GK combo

    Sczsesny+Pletikosa

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  28. wee man
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    is podolski on penalties?

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    1. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      him or Schweini cant be sure

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  29. Hazard267
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Couldnt spain line there defence up like this

    Arbeloa, Pique, Albiol, Ramos

    and that would mean no alba..?

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    1. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 11 months ago

      They could but it would seem that Alba is starting.

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  30. athreya
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 11 months ago

    Frenetic iterations to get it right before d-day. RMT pls:

    Given/ Greek keeper

    Maniatis/ Debuchy/ Anyukov/ Alba/ Piszczek

    Elm/ Kuba/ Shirokov/ Sneijder/ Ozil

    Robben/ Ibra/ Mueller

    I am toying with the following:
    Kuba -> Afellay
    Robben -> Ronaldo
    Debuchy -> Strinic

    Any comments?

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