Technical Area

The Technical Area – Michu Moves Up Front

As Swansea’s schedule starts to take a turn for the worse, many Fantasy managers had pencilled in a transfer out for Michu over the next couple of matches. Prior to last weekend’s win over Wigan, Michael Laudrup’s side had failed to pick up the three points since Gameweek 2, with their early season form all but a distant memory, but Laudrup’s decision to drop Danny Graham and move the Spaniard into the role forward role may perhaps force some to reconsider moving on the former Rayo Vallecano man.

Intriguingly, last weekend was only the second time this season that Laudrup has fielded his four new midfielders – Michu, Pablo Hernandez, Jonathan de Guzman and Ki Sung-Yeung – in the same starting XI. The first time occurred in Gameweek 5 against Everton, though there were clear differences in the set-up; with the Toffees 2-0 up at the break, Hernandez was replaced by Nathan Dyer on the right, while both de Guzman and Michu played deeper – this time round, de Guzman took the role in “the hole” and Michu led the line.

Graham, Michu and de Guzman

Looking at Michu’s display from the Wigan match, compared to his Gameweek 1-7 stats and Danny Graham’s over the season so far, he certainly has staked a claim to remain in the role up front. Understandably, he saw less of the ball overall (40 touches to 56.4) with less inclination to drop back and link up with the central midfield three, but considering Graham has averaged just 21.1 touches, it’s a significant difference. Michu’s final third touches were near-identical (19 to 17.7) but again Graham’s 11 fares a lot worse off, while the same applies to passes received in the final third; Michu received almost double Graham’s average up top (12 to 6.5).

In terms of playing style, Michu attempted 3 dribbles on Saturday – far superior to Graham’s 0.6, and also improved upon his own number of shots, up from 2.3 in Gameweek 1-7 to four against the Latics; Graham has managed 1.9 per game and has scored just once all season. Right across the board, from minutes per attempts and minutes per chance created, Michu’s stats last weekend were better than his own previous average and Graham’s for the season so far, suggesting Laudrup may well have solved his striking dilemma.

TchsTchs Final 3rdPass Rcvd Final 3rdDribblesPen Box TchsShotsMins/AttemptChances CreatedMins/Chance Created
Graham GW 1-821.1116.50.64.41.938.50.5144.5
Michu GW 840191235423.8247.5
Michu GW 1-756.417.710.10.74.42.337.91.750.6
de Guzman GW865321924328328

Furthermore, analysing de Guzman’s stats from Saturday’s game suggests he could be more suited to the role in “the hole”, with Laudrup looking for a playmaker type to tuck in behind his lone forward, rather than the sheer goal threat afforded by Michu in the previous matches. The Dutchman had almost double the number of touches in the final third as Michu’s Gameweek 1-7 average in the same position (32 to 17.7) and received almost double the number of passes (19 to 10) in this crucial area. Both players’ penalty box touches are near identical when playing in the support role but while 1.6 of Michu’s average of 2.3 attempts in the first seven matches were inside the area, all three of de Guzman’s efforts on Saturday arrived from outside the box.

In addition, de Guzman’s stats in “the hole” are superior to Michu’s both in terms of minutes per attempt (28 to 37.9) and minutes per chance created (28 to 50.6). Further analysis of their respective distribution stats shows that de Guzman made 16 passes in the final third against Wigan – more or less double Michu’s in Gameweeks 1-7, while his pass accuracy was substantially superior in the final third; 94.1% compared to 76.9%. With his set-piece duties also factored in, de Guzman provided 11 crosses (Michu’s average was 0.3) and also returned a pair of assists in the 2-1 win – with the Spaniard also getting on the score sheet for the sixth time this term, Laudrup’s personnel switch seems to have been the perfect solution to his side’s recent woes.

Hernandez and Dyer

While Wayne Routledge continues to nail down the left wing role, with seven starts in the opening eight matches under Laudrup, the right flank berth seems to be a battle between Pablo Hernandez and Nathan Dyer at present. Looking at Hernandez’s average position when on the ball against Wigan (below left) in comparison to Dyer’s over the season (below right) suggests the Spaniard gives his side more width and attacking impetus – a fact which the stats back up.

Hernandez Average Position GW8
Dyer Average Position GW1-8

Although the pair are virtually identical for touches (56 to 56.5), minutes per touch and passes made, Hernandez’s more offensive style of play saw him make 34 touches in the Wigan final third – a huge jump on Dyer’s season average of 23.2. Foraging forward into the opposition danger area, Hernandez received 29 passes in the final third – more than double Dyer’s 12.9 for the season – and as a result of playing higher up the pitch, he produced six crosses on Saturday, which is four time Dyer’s season average.

TchsTchs Final 3rdMins/TouchPass Rcvd Final 3rdDrbbsPen Box TchsPasses MadeCrossesShots
Hernandez GW856341.329363462
Dyer GW 1-856.523.21.212.94.52.2351.51.5

The latter’s tendency to take on the opposition means he impresses more when it comes to attempted dribbles, though the former Valencia man looks to offer Laudrup’s side a greater goal threat – he managed six touches in the penalty area, compared to Dyer’s average of 2.2, and also grabbed his first goal of the season.

Swansea Team Involvement Stats

What is intriguing here is that Swansea, with just 46.8% possession against Wigan, had less of the ball than in any other game so far this season. Michu and de Guzman’s possession stats from the weekend suggest that Laudrup is looking for them to be more direct in their play, with less build-up from the back and more of a focus in getting the ball to the front players more quickly.

PossessionTouchesTchs Final 3rd Tchs Penalty Box
GW150.6%6878516
GW262.6%88413222
GW363.7%86324623
GW459.2%77815421
GW548.8%62911724
GW662.4%81915918
GW772.8%88421338
GW846.8%66920325

Swansea had just 668 touches on Saturday – this was the second lowest the Welsh outfit has registered thus far under their new manager, yet their attacking stats are impressive. In the final third, they had 203 touches, their third highest in 2012/13, while a total of 25 penalty box touches against the Latics has been bettered only once this term.

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  1. danishdynamite
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    That's a cracking article - well done FFS

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  2. Smurf
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    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    All set?

    Begovic
    Baines / Vermaelen / Vertonghen
    Bale / Cazorla / Mata (c) / Valencia
    Tevez (vc) / Jelavic / Lambert

    McCarthy / Sterling / Nelsen / Gorkss

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Interesting front-line. Somehow you don't have any of the City or United forwards, yet don't have Berba or Ba! Any plans to bring either of them in?

      Midfield could be deadly but you have to hope them and your non elite strikers make up for the lack of big hitters up front.

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      1. Simon March
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Apart from Tevez...

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      2. Smurf
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Who does Tevez play for? 😉

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          You've both got me there!

          I was referring to the big hitters (i.e Aguero, RVP and Rooney). My question still stands regarding Ba and Berba though! Do you have any plans to get them?

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    2. Aditya K
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Pwetty much..Bale capt may be?

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      1. Smurf
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Not convinced that Bale will have the week everyone is hoping. Mata is in incredible form and as last week proved fixtures are irrelevant.

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        1. Aditya K
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          You may well be true..but I somehow feel Bale might just pip Mata ..I can wrong .

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        2. Zep
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Yeah I predict he'll score 0pts...

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    3. Le Limpar
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      You're still set to last week's captain...

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      1. Smurf
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        😉 he is a man in form. More in form than the rest of my team and I only tend to captain players on form rather than fixtures.

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    4. Le Limpar
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Just seen your starting defence 8|

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      1. Le Limpar
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Terrible at this emoticon game... But that is a helluva cool defence

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        1. Smurf
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Thanks you 😉 I have had it most of the season.

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          1. Dogba
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            It's maybe overkill? There are some decent mid/low-price options. Riise, Wilson, Santon/Simpson/Saylor

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    5. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Terrible bench.

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      1. Smurf
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Im more than happy to play Begovic for at least the next 9 fixtures and the rest of the bench players are fine IMO. I have no need to rotate defenders with the starting three I have.

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    6. सनकी
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      finally someone with the same interest. Vertonghen 😀

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    7. Feed tha Sheep
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Play sterling over lambert

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  3. Reckoner
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Is Valencia still seen as the best Man U midfield option for GW 11 onwards?

    I really want to double up on Man U, especially now with 9 points banked they might start sticking out weak CL teams again = less PL rotation.

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    1. Dogba
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I like the sound of RVP and Valencia in one team for their GW11 -> fixtures. Something I gotta look into.

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    2. Fratboy
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm debating RVP and Rooney to be honest...from GW13 can switch Aguero to Rooney...

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Looks I might have to give that one a miss. I've been taking to many hits.

        I'm keen on Evans/Raf/Valencia(Young?) for a run for gw 12-15. Depending on the CL position of United.

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        1. Fratboy
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I already have Rafael. Hoping things may be clearer by GW13 to decide on a third.

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  4. UnitednationsXI
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Hi guys…need some serious help!

    Mannone Davis
    Rafael baines demel cuellar davies
    Pienaar barfa Morrison michu cazorla
    Lambert suarez rvp.

    Have 2FT and 0.2m in the bank. My biggest worry is that i DON’T have any city/chelski/spurs players in my team plus the fact that lambert is a rotation risk now….

    I was thinking of doing:
    A: Morrison + lambert + suarez >>> puncheon + berba + torres
    B: michu + Morrison + lambert >>> sterling + nasri + berba
    C: barfa + Morrison + lambert >>> nasri + puncheon + Ba

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    1. Canadian Football
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Does the following work?

      Lambert/Suarez/HBA > Bale/Ba/Pog?

      I know the Pog punt is rather shocking but his fixtures are great and he is nailed on as Striker. If RDG are ever to score goals it will be in the next 5-6 GW's

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  5. Canadian Football
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    If Bale does not play it saves me from having to make the following tough decision!

    I am considering Michu >Bale for this weekend instead of Haz > Bale. However, if i do the latter, I will not beable to bring in Ba until GW 11.

    How essential is it to have Ba in GW10 If i have Berbatov? Or can it wait until then?

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    1. Canadian Football
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Can I wait on Ba until GW11?

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Did you see my reply? I reckon Michu > Bale (assuming the Bale rumour is BS of course) is the best move for your team.

      Ba would be nice to own but who would you sell? I'd like him long-term, probably for Tevez in my case.

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      1. Canadian Football
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Breba is my plan

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  6. Fratboy
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Won't be considering a Swansea player be it Michu or De Guzman until GW13 now. If not then, probably GW21->

    GW13 onwards

    LIVERPOOL WEST BROM arsenal NORWICH

    Not bad.

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  7. Kostja
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry to repost, just looking for more opinions on this:
    Read earlier discussion about midfielders and just wondering about people who don’t like HBA? Do you guys think he over-performed last season??? If not what other reasons do you have to think he wont perform on a similar level this year? Are his chances coming from different situations, if not why would you think he cant convert them at the same clip as last year?

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    1. Dogba
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      4-4-2 instead of 4-3-3?

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      1. Kostja
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        That is what people are saying, but does that mean he is taking his shots from deeper and making worse passes or smthn?

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        1. Dogba
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          It means he has a slightly different role, which, in my opinion, will lead to him getting less FPL points this season.

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    2. Simon March
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      He seems to deliver and yet I always feel he's unreliable. Also, he's on the wing so it's not like everything is going to go through him like with, say, Cazorla. He's also a slightly awkward price.

      Having said all that, he has the huge benefit of having a forward line that can score. All you need to do is take a look at Snodgrass's stats to see how important that is!

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      1. Kostja
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Im in a bit of a pickle here, just looked at his stats from last season, and if he would convert chances at the same rate and had his passes converted at the same rate as last year he would be awesome.

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    3. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Did you see my post?

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      1. Kostja
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        yes, that is what got me interested in what are the counter arguments on HBA.

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I see him in a lot of RMTs but then again you should always try to make your own judgements based on all the information available wherever possible.

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    4. I am not a smart guy
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I will start to consider him when he provides a return again, it is ok even for just an assist.

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  8. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Is Fellaini fit for Sunday's match?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      *Scratches balls

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Just answer the question or go f*** yourself.

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          LOL

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        2. Zep
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I'm glad I brought my popcorn...

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    2. Lucky_2010
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      not sure 50/50 chance ??

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    3. Hank Scorpio
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I reckon he will be playing.

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  9. The Stock
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    So this Bale rumour is about the fact he's probably not trained right?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Link?

      I can't sticking a (C) or (V/c) on someone that's a doubt. You never know.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        How long have you had Long?(LOL)

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        1. Fratboy
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          he's had him for 4, 9, 5, 5! Not a bad run that Stock!

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            The professionals just know more then us. That McCewan guy's rank is out of this world.

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            1. Fratboy
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              When did we become low-life fantasy scum? I refuse to have this shoddy rank associated with my knowledge.

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        first page Swangirl

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Cool, will go and look

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    2. roscola
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      As far as I can tell there is a single tweet from a spurs fan saying that SSN have reported that AVB said it. There isn't a single other piece of evidence that I can find anywhere on the net.

      Maybe it's right and if it is, it could well be because he hasn't trained, or turned up to training half asleep or whatever. But I want more evidence than one guy's reckoning about what some other guys have said about what another guy said.

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      1. WorldCupDanB
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Surely someone else would have verified that it has been on SSN by now or it would have appeared on their website.

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        1. roscola
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Exactly. That's what's so iffy about it. The original tweet is two hours old and hasn't been retweeted once.

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  10. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Great arrticle. Certainly convincing me to start Michu over Kebe this weekend atm.

    On another note, just secured a ticket to go and watch United away for the first time ever, when we go to Villa. Well excited 😀

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    1. Hank Scorpio
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      One of my best football memories, Villa Park semi final, United vs Arsenal 2004.

      Arsenal's invincibles beaten by a Paul Scholes goal. Brilliant atmosphere. Enjoy it.

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    2. floydy_floyd
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      cya there lad

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        are you a Villa fan or a United fan?

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        1. floydy_floyd
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Villa pal

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  11. floydy_floyd
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    If Bale doesn't play I am going to delete my team in a sulk / act of frustration

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      +1
      why the hell you cannt play football when your wife has baby? I dont get it

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      1. floydy_floyd
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I can't even tell u the bad luck iv had with that guy.

        As if his baby is more important than my team. He's a disgrace.

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          😆
          you dont need to say. look at my GW history.
          I switched between Hazard & Bale in the weeks they scored/didnt score (I owned the guy didnt score of course)

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        2. roscola
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          +100 And it's not just one fantasy team he's selfishly abandoning, it's thousands!

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      2. Canadian Football
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I have NO intention on spreading any rumors!. I just hope all is okay "health wise" in the Bale family. If the rumors are true, it could explain his absence.

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        1. tosey
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          what rumours?

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Missing Southampton

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            1. tosey
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              is it still just the one rumour form one unknown person

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                I think so. Some twitter link on prev page.

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          2. floydy_floyd
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            tose-meister - still happy with Aguero? Im gonna ditch this week or next.

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  12. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    A. Riise and HBA or Ya Ya

    B. Hughes and Cazorla

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      B

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  13. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    spurs play tomorrow, let's put the scare-mongering on hold for 28 hours
    ...then if he doesn't travel PANNNNNNNNNNNNNICCCCCCCCCCCCCC 😉

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      or just buy Lennon and save the hassle 😉

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I can't wait for Lolololoris to cement his place. I'll get him in straight!

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  14. Daniel_tsl
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    2 things to ask:

    A) Anyone getting rid of Michu?

    B)Jaask or Bego for this week?

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      A) strongly considering
      B) bego

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      1. Daniel_tsl
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ok

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    2. Lucky_2010
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      nope for both .....

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  15. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry for asking, but I've only just come on for today.

    What's this about Bale not playing on the weekend?!

    Really pushing me to hit the wildcard button!

    Is it because he wants his two weeks paternity leave?

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    1. Hank Scorpio
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      One random tweet from one random guy about something he saw on SSN that NOBODY else has heard or seen.

      Mass hysteria has since ensued.

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      1. Hank Scorpio
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        For the record I think Bale will be allowed to miss the European game on Thursday, and then will be back for the weekend.

        Purely my opinion, based on absolutely nothing 😉

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        1. Spencer
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Cheers Stinky.

          Normal day at FFS then!

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          1. Hank Scorpio
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            As always!

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        2. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I tend to agree with this, regardless of the rumours that started from that tweet.

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    2. HelloSidney
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      The baby is Harry Redknapp's.

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      1. Lucky_2010
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        what ....lol

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  16. Over LAN and C:\
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Bales out -> advice from an expert

    http://tinyurl.com/8p9atr9

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    1. Spencer
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Brilliant

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      1. WorldCupDanB
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Oh dear you may all joke but I've just found this video about it http://goo.gl/DYZcP

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  17. festerme1983
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    What are ashley cole owners thinking?

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      "i wish i bought ivanovic"

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    2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      swapping for huth to upgrade my midfield

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  18. Golden Oldies
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    So pwhen do people think Federici might be back starting again? How has the form of McCarthy been?

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  19. Live4pool
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    how could coloccini not drop in price with the following transfers out since GW1 ???

    -8277
    -34326
    -36960
    -23094
    -18173
    -13985

    that's surely a price drop of 0.3 minimum in my eyes isn't it?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I don't think it's that simple.

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      1. Live4pool
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        but over 120.000 transfers out and no price drop?? don't get it

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          All I'm saying is that their might have been flags/protection. Not that I know how that shit works.

          I suppose the % of ownership could also play a roll. I owned Simpson since gw 3 and he dropped by 0.2m in the same period.

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      But I don't see through your eyes, so I couldn't possibly know... 😉

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      1. Live4pool
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        then take a look trough yours please 🙂

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    3. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Prob had a flag added and then removed which negates all of the transfers.

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      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        ^ This. (Two flags actually but still...)

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          Pedant! 😛 😉

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Absolutely, pedantry is one of my biggest pleasures 😀

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  20. Zep
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    There is nothing I like better than a clever pun, but please, hasn't it been done enough?

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  21. Screaming Midget
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Which looks the best option?

    A: Bring Mata for Pienaar this GW (home to Man U) and play him instead of Sterling (everton) or Maloney (W HAM)

    B: Bring Mata in for Michu and bench Pienaar

    C: Save transfer; play Michu, Sterling, Maloney, Cazorla and consider Mata next week instead?

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  22. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    *warning rant alert*

    Though finding this site has been great for me there is something I need to get of my chest. In recent days I have noticed that there appears to be a group of people who serve only to criticize. For example if one was to dare to suggest having Lennon and Nasri over Bale and Yaya they laughed away and dismissed as being too lightweight. What's the deal with this. Just because a player is not popular or explosive. We the suggestion to be Sandro or Dembele I could well agree with this argument. But to dismiss non-Bale, Yaya or Tevez picks as lightweight or stupid is ridiculous IMO. Just because a player is not the big name does not make him a bad pick per se. I seem to remember being laughed at for picking a certain Danish bloke GW1 in the Euros, and picking Jelavic before Wigan and look how those turned out.

    *Rant over*

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    1. Zep
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Nice grav... 😉

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        yeah it's ok I guess. 😉

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          *sobs into pillow*

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    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      +1

      t's like the "uber cheap at the back" argument. Although it's worked okay for me the last 2-3 season's who am I to say it's wrong to have Ivan at the back. Everyone is shooting down Citeh defenders since they have only had 1/8 CS, but who says they wont score 3 CS in the next 4?

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        joe hart has had the least to do this season, suggesting man city are actually the strongest defence in the league. it's the whole issue with conceding 1 every game you'll be seen as a worse defence in the fpl world than one who concedes 2,0,3,0,2

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Well I would agree some people are a little conservative in terms of looking at other options...most certainly. There's a lot to be said for finding a diamond in the rough or a short term power buy.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I read a great quote once, can't quite remember/find it, but it went something like this:

        It takes a truly great intellect to truly consider an idea that they disagree with.

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          I like that quote. I hope you're not trying to be condescending though...

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          1. thetinkerman
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            • 12 Years
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            No, it wasn't my intention at all, just thought it fitted the context. A lot of people will read someone else's opinion and disagree without truly considering it.

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    4. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      +1 There's nothing wrong with Kebe 🙂 (I've brought him in this week)

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    5. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I think the key is how you interpret other people's comments. There will always be uninformed posts and posts with an agenda other than discussing something in a balanced way.

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        if some sees that your midfield contains

        Lennon, Nasri, Michu, Caz and kebe and tells you it's awful, as it hasn't got Bale and Yaya instead, how many ways can you interpret that?

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          i'd call a midfield with yaya in it awful.

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    6. Simon March
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      People laugh a lot at left field suggestions on here.

      Then they transfer them in 3 weeks later.

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      1. applebonkers
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        this.
        just compare mata's rep in gw3 to now

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          exactly, in my mind Lennon has been in great form recently and though he probably lacks Bale's explosivity his underlying stats in terms of chances created, touches in the box etc are actually better than Bale's. the only thing Bale rapes him in is shots 926 to 12/13 something like that) but many of them are off target, meaning negative PPI. Lennon shoots less, but when he does he makes it count (i.e he generally at least forces the keeper to make a save)

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          1. thetinkerman
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            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Apart from the casual use of the awful word 'rape', I agree you have a point.

            However, you have to consider the other options available in Lennon's price range and there are several who are better IMO. I also think Bale will not only outscore Lennon but will offer better value.

            If he improves his goal threat and does well for a sustained period of time I will happily admit I was wrong but based on the information we have now he looks a bad pick.

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        2. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          He wasn't a great pick 3 weeks ago though. People are allowed to change their opinion!

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    7. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      +1

      Would be great to have all of baines, bale, mata, hazard, rvp, rooney etc but the game is about maximising points and without a limitless budget other options have to be considered....

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  23. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 7 months ago

    Would anyone think it was madness to just not bother buying Bale at all this season? I'm tempted just to ignore him and go for Lennon at opportune times of the season.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      😆 😆 Look up mate.

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    2. Screaming Midget
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Madness because you can't see into the future. Don't plan too far in advance as things change quickly.

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    3. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      I'm going to avoid buying him whenever he has a heavily pregnant partner.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        😆

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      2. JT's Dog
          11 years, 7 months ago

          em dont think that will happen again this season, i know he is fast but cmon

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          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            You're assuming he only has one partner though...

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              1. Zep
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Which one got in first? 😉

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                1. Billy Gilmore
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  😀

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                2. roscola
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  🙂

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              2. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                😉

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          2. roscola
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Oh wait, I was thinking he had several wives. But I misunderstood, he's not a mormon, he's a moron.

            (he's not really, it just fits the gag)

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              You'll fit the gag when I tie you up and keep you in my basement 😈

              (hopes no-one notices this violent outburst within a busy thread)

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              1. roscola
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                It's alright, the cops are busy investigating allegations of over-harsh criticism of JK's picks

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  LOL

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              2. Zep
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                🙂

                Ladies and gentlemen, we have a serial killer in our midst...

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  YOU TOO...GET IN THE BOOT 😈

                  Ok now I'm shocking myself...

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                  1. Zep
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    Been watching Dexter lately?

                    I see some plastic sheets in your future... 😉

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        • applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          physioroom says bale out for 2 days with a vasectomy

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          1. roscola
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            😆

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      3. Zep
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        Madness... absolutely madness I tell you!

        ...changing your name like that without consulting me first...

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          😆

          Do you not approve of my new name? :-O

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          1. Zep
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Nah I like it...

            Very topical... 😉

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      4. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        This. Michu > Lennon next week is my planned tranny.

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      5. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I think that Bale will be the highest scoring fantasy midfielder at the end of the year, so if I'm right, I guess it would be a little foolhardy to never get him in. But at this point, he's hardly essential. Mata/Hazard have been better, and Cazorla has shown flashes.

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      6. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        In my opinion, I think some people on here are slaves to the players that performed well for them previously. I'm the first to admit I'm a bit like that too with my choices. However, there is a limit to it for me and there's a time that it goes too far and ruins your team.

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    4. Surfreak
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      Michu stays until he gets banned then GTFO!

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        what is he gets a yellow this w/e and then only misses the League Cup game????????

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      2. Screaming Midget
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 7 months ago

        I don't like IFs.

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    5. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 7 months ago

      @ Tinkerman

      I looked at last seasons stats for HBA and what got me interested was:
      6.76 shots per goal
      4.857 key passes per assist

      This season he is making 1.9 shots and 1.4 key passes. So I am wondering what has changed that he could not perform at the same rate again which would make him an impressive option.

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      1. JT's Dog
          11 years, 7 months ago

          how much is that down to only having cisse/ ba in front for most of season

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          1. Kostja
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            So what has changed this season? Ba still up front and Cisse too for most games probably.

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              The significant change is his role on the pitch - in the 4-3-3 (second half of last season) he was wide right in the final 3 (With Ba on the left and Cisse through the middle).

              It's currently a 4-4-2 where he's playing as the wide right of the midfield 4, with Ba and Cisse both playing through the middle.

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              1. Kostja
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Check below, I am trying to make sense why that would make his conversion rate worse, and key passes converted at a worse clip by others?

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            2. JT's Dog
                11 years, 7 months ago

                see GWM below, plus first half of last season he only had Ba up front, then 2nd half Ba was on bench for a few, so only cisse in front

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          2. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            4-4-2 vs 4-3-3

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            1. Kostja
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              That is what people keep telling me, I am just wondering what does that mean to HBA. Are his shots coming from deeper, passes from IDK to worse positions for strikers(assisting the assister)?

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              1. Billy Gilmore
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                I assume it's because he's playing deeper and wider than last season, leading to him not being as involved in the final third, but I'd ask GW for a better insight.

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              2. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                I'd say his "key passes per assist" ratio would have been artificially inflated last season by the phenomenal rate at which Cisse was putting chances away after January.

                He's not really one for tap-ins generally so I wouldn't expect his shots per goal to vary too much but maybe he is taking a few more pot shots from distance, especially given we've been pretty poor so far and not dominating games.

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                1. Kostja
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Nice point about Cisse and looking at his past years in france- he has only once converted at a similar clip as last year. Looks like I am keeping away than 🙂

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                  1. Kostja
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    The france point was regarding HBAs shooting a "," missing there 🙂

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              3. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                But generally yes, he's playing deeper and wider than last season which brings with it defensive duties and more awkward shooting positions. I still think he's a decent pick though, he's dangerous anywhere on the pitch when in the mood.

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                1. Billy Gilmore
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  So he may be liable for a few OGs then? 😉

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                  1. GreenWindmill
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    All the coolest attackers are doing it 🙂

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          3. SW6
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Could it not just be that Newcastle are not playing as well as last year and have had tough fixtures so far?

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            1. GreenWindmill
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              This is also true, the team's overall performances have mostly been pretty poor.

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              1. Kostja
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                But Newcastle in general are creating a similar amount of chances as last season 12.3 compared by 12.9 last season.

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                1. GreenWindmill
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  I suppose it depends on the quality of those chances and the conversion rates of the strikers. Cisse was quite simply unstoppable after January (when Ben Arfa got most of his games) and Ba was ridiculous pre-January. Ba has done well so far but overall the conversion rates are surely regressing.

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            2. Dogba
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              Definitely a factor. Fixtures are lightning up now though. Still think I'll stick with getting just Ba for now.

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              1. Kostja
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                I have Ba and think he is the best option for them. I am just trying to find the best mid to bring in ATM if Bale is out. Currently down to HBA, Walters, or keep Haz for 1 more week and get Silva next week.

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        • Live4pool
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          so whats the newcastle defense look like when all are fit (apart from RTaylor)?
          cheers!

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          1. Billy Gilmore
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Simpson Coloccini Saylor Santon

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            1. Live4pool
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              so simpson is a safe starter? obviously the best choice then for 4.8

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          2. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Same as when all are fit including R Taylor 😉

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        • Zep
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 7 months ago

          There is absolutely no way I'm going into this weekend playing Rangel away to Citeh if Bale is out... that's like playing 10 players, since he'll likely get 0/-1 pts anyway...

          If Bale is out I will definitely be taking a hit to have 11 players (plus Rangel on the bench), and will most certainly bring in Mata...

          Would you guys do the same thing in my situation?

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          1. SW6
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            You could get Rangel out?

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          2. Simon March
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 7 months ago

            Assuming you don't have any other subs available I wouldn't take a hit. If having Rangel is like playing with 10 players taking a hit is like playing with 9.

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            1. Zep
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 7 months ago

              You think?

              If I play Rangel I am at best saving 4pts (since I think he'll get 0pts)... but if I get Mata for -4pts... by playing he gets at least 2pts... he has already made it to within 2pts of what I reckon Rangel can achieve...

              I only need an assist from him to make it justifiable...

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              1. Simon March
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Well, there's all sorts of scenarios; Bale could play, Rangel could score or assist or even keep a clean sheet. The only scenario where you are guaranteed to lose points is by taking a hit.

                If the question was; 'do I think you should have Mata in your team' it would be a resounding yes. But then I also wouldn't mind having Bale. The prospect of actually taking a hit to remove one of the best players in the game seems a bit near-sighted don't you think?

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          3. JT's Dog
              11 years, 7 months ago

              why keep rangel, can't see many games in near future to justify. would swap him for stoke player and save some cash

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              1. Dogba
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                This.

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                1. denial
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  City haven't been thrashing teams though.

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              2. Zep
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                I already brought in Begovic... and I'd rather take a hit for an attacking player...

                Rangel will definitely be out as soon as I can do it for free, but had other pressing issues this week...

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                1. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    fair enough, but the bale one could backfire. Very hard to predict what outcome of his situation may mean, and in that case I prefer to leave alone as iti is easier to move him out later if not performing rather than trying to get him back.
                    re the defender hit, it would be risk to double stoke, but the way i see it is with your other option being rangel and likelyhood of 0/1 point it isnt a full hit and stoke may pay it back plus some over next 5-6 weeks

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              3. Canadian Football
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Do it.....Bale only has 1 good fixture after SOT.

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            • JT's Dog
                11 years, 7 months ago

                Bale conclusion= think we are going to see a few more london based players mysteriously taking games off now JT has 4 weeks off

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                1. Zep
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Yeah but that shouldn't take effect until next August now... 😉

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                  1. JT's Dog
                      11 years, 7 months ago

                      lol

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                2. King Nil Miss ✩
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  I know most are biased towards Begovic but I´ve got to ask

                  Schwarzer or Begovic for GW9?

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                3. roscola
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 7 months ago

                  Apparently Spurs have landed at Maribor and Bale was not on the plane:

                  http://instagram.com/p/RKlS_sw3SF/

                  Slightly worried now.

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                  1. roscola
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    And even more official of that:

                    https://twitter.com/SpursNewsForum/status/261100888914018305

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                  2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                    • 12 Years
                    11 years, 7 months ago

                    I don't think this is enough to officially confirm he is out. I personally don't think he would have travelled to this match after his baby was born anyway.

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