Dugout Discussion

Monday Dugout Discussion

Let’s just say that our expectations are “moderate” at best. The clash between West Ham and Stoke is perhaps not everyone’s idea of a Gameweek finale, particularly after a glut of goals thus far. Even so, despite the likely war of attrition at Upton Park, we could yet be in line for a few spills, although in all likelihood, a 0-0 scoreline will be the result of choice for many Fantasy managers backing the mid-price defensive assets on show tonight.

Whatever we’re dealt, our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is open to those wishing to indulge in some real-time activity.

The news from East London finds two changes in the West Ham lineup with Yossi Benayoun and Matt Jarvis dropping out of the starting XI after picking up knocks in the win at Newcastle last time out. Their places go to Gary O’Neil and Modibo Maiga. Interestingly, Sam Allardyce also opts to keep James Collins on the bench, retaining James Tomkins alongside Winston Reid in his defence. George McCartney and Joey O’Brien are the full-backs again, leaving Guy Demel benched.

Stoke are unchanged, with Glenn Whelan passing a fitness test on a hamstring problem sustained whilst on international duty. Both Charlie Adam and Jon Walters have also overcome knocks to figure in Tony Pulis’ starting XI. Matt Etherington starts against his former club, then, with Michael Kightly again benched.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. MACHU MICHU
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    11 years, 5 months ago

    will all the points be added tonight ??

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  2. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Wow. West Hams next 7 fixtures, I don't think i've ever seen such a hard run all in a row.

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      A marathon is a hard run

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    2. beric
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      Nolan'll still get a few goals

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      1. Caine & Co.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Althogh ALL of his goals to date have became in easy home fixtures

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Except last week

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          1. Caine & Co.
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Reallly? Guess that was the exeption clarifies the rule part

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          2. IfYouTinkerYou'llHaveA…
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            And the one he scored against city which was onside

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  3. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Jason Puncheon 4.4.

    Too good to be true, right? Sell Taarabt, get a cool 1m for it. Win-win if I ever heard of it.

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    1. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      He gets benched regularly though.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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        11 years, 5 months ago

        He won't after that performance. He was immense

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      2. Gargamel
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        For 4.4m I'll just have to suck that up. I fancy his chances to keep his place, he's not a bad player

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      11 years, 5 months ago

      Sounds good,

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      1. Rider on the Storm
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        11 years, 5 months ago

        I sold kaca for punch too

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    3. Blind
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I've owned Puncheon for around 6 weeks now and the problem you will face is that you will have him on your bench when he scores big and play him when he does f all.

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        That's a shame, but I'll live with it

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    4. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      good move i reckon, like you say for 4.4 it's almost a case of who cares. if hughes gets sacked it's a no brainer with the added playing time uncertainty that will put on taarabt. he's being playing every single minute under hughes lately.
      i reckon taarabt will tempt us all at least once in the future this season, but until the manager situation is sorted i'm ditching

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah absolutely. Already been burned twice by him this season so fully expecting to fall for that beautiful face at least once more

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  4. Scroobius Mac
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    D. Cisse + Gera > Fletcher + Puncheon (-4)

    Sound okay?

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    1. Smurf
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      It involves loosing D.Cisse so definatley worth a hit IMO.

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        It's either that or an 8 pointer that would involve Suarez in but Mata or Baines out.

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    2. phy5tij
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      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Erm yes, was picking Cisse a missclick?

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I was a bit drunk if it helps.

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        1. phy5tij
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Haha, to be fair he was in the scout picks

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  5. phy5tij
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Who to bench (Noble aside obvs)

    Bego Jussi

    Baines Caulker Cuellar Clyne Gorkss

    Bale Silva Mata Sterling Noble

    RVP Tevez Suarez

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Noble obviously

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    2. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Easy. Jussi, Clyne, Gorkks, Noble.

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  6. Thomass
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    11 years, 5 months ago

    Kone for Berbatov? Should I do it

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
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      what are your reasons for considering it?

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    2. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      No in my opinion.

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    3. IamIronMike
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Yes just not this week.

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  7. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Baines and Fellaini to

    Cueller and Silva.

    Given the next few fixtures I think these are sensible moves.

    Opinions?

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Hold Baines till after Norwich game at least.

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      1. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I really dont see him getting much from the game. Norwich playing well, Everton not so well and have a few injuries.

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
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      Yeah, probably.

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    3. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      How can you dump the only defender on penalties and corners! What do you want a hot flannel bath from two lesbians

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      1. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        He has had his time and I will be sorry to let him go but he hasnt been doing enough to justify his price.

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      2. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        You're a strange person by the way.....Nice link!

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  8. Moinal
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Who's the most nailed on for starts: Demel or McCartney?

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Avoid them both like the plague.

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      1. danishdynamite
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        this

        I have Demel but I wouldn't buy him now for all the of Walter White's blue crack

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  9. Caine & Co.
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Do you consider fellaini/everton as fixture proof or plan to get morrison for example for next 6 GWs?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Ish. But there will be some other alternatives who also have better fixtures.

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I'm sticking with Fellaini. I wrongly thought at the start of the season that pienaar would be the better player.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        He would have been if Fellaini played in his normal position.

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    3. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Im getting rid because I wont lose much value on him. He has a tough run and I cant see him getting too many points.

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    4. danishdynamite
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Sticking with fellaini, dumping baines in a few GW's

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    5. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Hair Bear is a curse and over-rated and Eve will get a pay day from him in the window.

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  10. Hazmat
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Was this http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/9221096.stm the last time Allardyce went to Old Trafford?

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  11. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Didn't see the game so it's naive question time. Any chance of BPs for Begovic and Reid?

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      no

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Sound Tim. Cheers.

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    2. Moinal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      No chance

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  12. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    A. Nolan Ba Suarez
    B. Nolan Kun Fletcher
    C. Sterling Ba Kun

    long term ?

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
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      None of the above.

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
        • 12 Years
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        why ?????????

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        1. AIRMILES
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          I personally dont think Nolan is worth having for the next two months, and that Tevez is better than Kun. Suarez and Sterling are both very good, and Ba may be as well, but I think he's edged out by Berba, RVP, Suarez and Tevez.

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          1. Timmy Cahill Rules
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            i have berbs season keeper

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            1. AIRMILES
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              I prefer him up front. 🙂

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          2. waitinginthelonggrass
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            +1 for this post

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  13. Lrf
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Not a bad run with the Mig/Foster combo until Jan WC: WBA, QPR, STOKE, CHE + RDG, WH, NOR, qpr, TOT, FUL, WH, AV, SWA.

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    1. Jimmers
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      If Foster is fit and gets back in the team

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      1. Lrf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        He should be fit and ready for STOKE in gw.15 surely?

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    2. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Yes, that is good - hadn't noticed that - thanks 🙂

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    3. danishdynamite
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Prasie be to you my child - was hankering after De Gea + a 4m cheapie, but I think I'll have some of that Mig/Foster goodness instead

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  14. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    And Demel, Nolan and Cameron get me and grand total of.......*drumroll*.........5 points.

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    1. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I see you're still doing blindingly well! Fantastic!

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I got 5 points tonight too. I'll take it. Moving on!

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    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      That's about a par score

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  15. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Why did nobody see that Jussi stole a point from Bego? 😕

    Jussi was on 2 saves, Bego 5 when a limp header was easily saved by Bego...

    Next thing Jussi moves to 3 saves and instead of being two points difference they end the same..

    #mugged

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    1. MACHU MICHU
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      yeah saw it email sent to FPL ....

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        What address to send? I will send too 🙂

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Don't bother, all gone home! 😉

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          1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            I see what you did there, tee hee.

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        2. MACHU MICHU
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          the support link on the site

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Yup was surprised when that save was added, pleasantly in my case.

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    3. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Ha, this would be epic. 1 point is like...a few hundred places of rank 😀

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Two really as Jussi would lose one...

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Only in the Jussi vs Bego owners, but yes. I submitted a form. Is this sad that I'd do that to get my one extra point? Hehe.

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    4. Parm
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Shhhhh! 😉 😛

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    5. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      it was due to jaaskelinen keeping a walters header that was off target in because it was injury time and he didn't have any time to waste

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        That was after the point was added

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          it wasn't, that was his third, begovic only made 5 saves, the other one late on was stopping a mccartney cross to nolan. please don't help bombard them with emails due to your mistake

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    6. Black Knights
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      11 years, 5 months ago

      Updated to confirmed now. So can us Bego owners give up hope of an extra point?

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Email them, it can be changed and it is a 2 point swing!

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    7. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      noticed that also

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    8. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      so no funny business regarding mistaken identity, the saves are exactly where they should be, the issue is more jaaskelainen collecting a header trickling a good yard wide shouldn't really be classed as a save. if it secires walters bps (shot on target given) then it's doubly dodgy

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        a header trickling a good yard wide shouldn’t really be classed as a save

        So they are not as they should be then?

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        😆 Quoting the beeb as a reference....

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        1. applebonkers
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          it's the same feed FPL uses

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  16. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    allardyce sporting a terrible tache. i was reading his column in one of the london papers and he was saying he was growing it, what a poor effort though sam!

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    1. iCon
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I would have wagered good money that Sam would have grown a fine Tom Selleck-esque moustache!

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        +1 i was expecting quite a good one!

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Needs some boot polish!

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        haha

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  17. Neto
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    If Nolan won't get any BAPs then I'm through to the next round. 50-49

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  18. isacki: full casual
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    So here it starts lads. 5 days of people predicting as many players are going to explode next week as possible, and saying everyone should buy them, followed by the phrase "mark my words".

    Bookmark them all.

    And on that sour note 😉 night fellow fantasy sufferers 😆

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  19. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Are people really sticking with Baines all season? How many people are pretending to love Baines because they don't want to insult this site's rules and regulations?

    Imagine having a City defender...or a defender that actually kept a CS for once. Or just had a game, created no chances...but got you 6 points. I miss those days.

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Change the record.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Not a single person has been able to discuss it. It's like a taboo.

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        1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          It will be discussed on this week's Scoutcast. The basic answer is yes, we are all keeping Baines. 😀

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    2. isacki: full casual
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      11 years, 5 months ago

      Scouts, please hurry up with downvoting.

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      1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
        • 12 Years
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        All I'm asking is for a discussion on it. But I get this abuse.

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 12 Years
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          Don't see any abuse toward you, people have the right to assert themselves. Fact is selling him on is your choice, if your theory is correct you gain over those of us that chose to keep. I'm happy to commit to my own decisions, and don't choose to post about it on practically every page through out the day.

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    3. Caine & Co.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping for the season. Never done that before but always when i had him hes done good. Price this year was the big difference to me. Hes value for once!

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      No Brainer

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  20. Planet Jo
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Demel, you muppet. What are you doing coming on for a pointless cameo? Did you and Fat Sam know that means Cuellar stays on my bench???!

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Who benched Cuellar?

      A) Sam
      B) Demel
      C) you

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  21. jpdyolf
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    11 years, 5 months ago

    Where will SAF, if anywhere, rest Van Persil? Against Galatasary or QPRawry?

    Where's the case for starting him on Saturday?

    He may not be the automatic week 13 captain that he appears to be.

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      He won't play against Galatasary. Case closed.

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      RVP, Rooney, Scholes, Evra and Ferdinand amongst players rested for United's trip to Galatasaray

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    3. Jimmers
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      He won't play against Galatasaray - dead rubber of a game

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    4. AIRMILES
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      It's already been reported that RVP and Rooney aren't travelling to Galatas. No need to, theyve topped the group

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      1. jpdyolf
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        maybe it's why Stan James have Man Utd at 4/1

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        1. Pat Mustard
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          3-1*

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    5. Crouch Potato!
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      Not travelling for CL game.

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    6. Federico
      • 11 Years
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      RVP isn't even in the squad for Galatasaray, me thinks.

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      1. living the dream
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        He will definitely start IMO

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    7. living the dream
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      I thinks that a resounding no you're completely wrong and RVP is the obvious captaincy choice this week 🙂

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    8. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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      There putting out a cameo team aint you read the news!

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  22. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    lads

    A. Kun - long term and Fletcher - short term till after DGW

    B. Ba and Suarez

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    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
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      B.

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      1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        what do you think of fletcher in berba out?

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Not for me but I can see the reasoning behind it.

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    2. waitinginthelonggrass
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      11 years, 5 months ago

      Tevez and Fletcher

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  23. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 13 Years
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    At least Guy D coming on for a cameo makes it less painful that it would have been Gorkss and not Carlos C off the bench 😀

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 13 Years
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      Me too.

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  24. Federico
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    11 years, 5 months ago

    Still can't decide if i should do Caz -> Silva.
    Any advice?

    I'll get Tevez or Aguero in soon enough, so i'll have other City cover if i decide to stick.

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    1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      You need 'em both all season

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  25. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    great player Nolan...but i think maybe time to cash my chips in for a month....really don't think West Ham are good enough to cope with the big boys...Nolan>Santi in light of a decent run coming up for Arsenal...

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
      • 12 Years
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      same dilemma for me

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      yes sir i totally agree with that analysis

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  26. jpdyolf
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    So you're all convinced that he'll start against QPR?

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    1. living the dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Are you an extremely worried non RVP owner by any chance?

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      1. jpdyolf
        • 11 Years
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        Nope just speculating. Quite possible that he won't start in my opinion.

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        1. Federico
          • 11 Years
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          The backup strikers will get their game time vs. Galatasaray. I don't see why SAF wouldn't play his #1 striker in the weekend?

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        2. living the dream
          • 13 Years
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          He will definitely start.

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    2. Federico
      • 11 Years
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      He will start! No question 'bout that!

      Why would you think otherwise?

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  27. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 13 Years
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    I just imagined I had RvP, Kun and Suarez up top.

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    1. waitinginthelonggrass
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      And Kaca, Sterling, Maloney, Guthrie and Puncheon in midfield.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
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        I LOL'ed.

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        1. waitinginthelonggrass
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Very good rank by the way, stark contrast to your recent seasons, going in the right direction, unlike me.

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  28. Andrew
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like I scraped though 51-50 in my PP Cup match

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  29. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Members stats have Bego on 4 saves. Now be quiet you lot.

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Opta saves and FPL are different.

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Don't try to rob me of my point, silly ape! 😀

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    3. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Must be right then... 🙄

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  30. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    if you had this mid 5

    Nolan Maa Bale Silva Fellaini

    would you keep nolan as first sub or sell and improve the defence or strike force

    ba berbs suarez

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