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Wednesday Dugout Discussion

The Gameweek concludes with three matches under lights and a cast of Fantasy heavy-hitters on show. Chelsea face QPR at the Bridge with Rafa’s teamsheet much anticipated by all, while Liverpool share the same kick-off tie for their Anfield meet with Sunderland. Meanwhile, the 8pm kick-off is at St James’ Park, where Newcastle, sans Demba Ba, face Everton as they look to stave off talk of a relegation battle.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open for business and ready for the rowdy and reserved alike.

Rafa confirms our worst fears: he makes the bravest of moves and rests both Eden Hazard and Juan Mata, along with Ramires: Victor Moses, Oscar and Marko Marin are handed starts, while Frank Lampard is retained and skippers the side. Benitez also opts to preserve Ashley Cole at left-back, drafting in Ryan Bertrand for a start. With Petr Cech stricken by a groin problem, Ross Turnbull is in goal as expected, while David Luiz looks to be in midfield once again.

QPR also make changes in opposition, with Shaun Derry, Fabio and Esteban Granero given starts; Junior Hoilett is also given an opportunity to impress as the likes of Shawn Wright-Phillips, Djibril Cisse, Samba Diakite and Armand Traore all make way. Park Ji-sung is back following injury and on the bench.

Over at Anfield, Brendan Rodgers brings Andre Wisdom back into the fold following Jose Enrique’s hamstring injury. That’s one of two changes as Lucas makes a return to midfield at the expense of Joe Allen. Glen Johnson will presumably shift to left-back.

Martin O’Neill has no option but to make a change at the back with hamstring victim John O’Shea missing out: Danny Rose returns at left full-back, however, after sitting out the Spurs game as part of his loan arrangement.

With Demba Ba embroiled in transfer talk, Newcastle are forced to make changes to their lineup as Shola Ameobi starts up front. Mike Williamson returns from his ban to bolster a defence hit for seven goals at the Emirates, while Vurnon Anita also returns having missed the Arsenal drubbing through injury. The injured Danny Simpson sits out, while Gael Bigirimana drops to the bench.

As for the Toffees, they are able to recall Marouane Fellaini after his three-match ban, while Phil Neville also returns from injury to strengthen their lineup. Both Leighton Baines and Steven Pienaar are fit enough to start despite the scares earlier today; it’s Thomas Hitzlsperger and Victor Anichebe who drop out.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    what happens if it's tie .. ranks comparison?

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Nope, click on the "view cup history" link

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  2. UnderstandablyDistraught
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Nelsen's not a bad WC 4.0

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  3. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    worth ditching Walcott to go back to 3-4-3 with Berba, Suarez and RvP? After DGW of course?

    Or do we think Fellaini is less essential than Theo?

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    1. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Theo is more explosive than Fell imo

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  4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Goes to show you - don't buy players just for the fixture. Man City - Reading, now Chelsea - QPR.

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Let's face it. It wouldn't have been 0-1 if Rafa had started his strongest team.

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        But that's part of it. When you just buy players for the fixture, you risk rotation as well. Form > fixtures. That's why I won't be selling Suarez even with his fixtures coming up.

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    2. Samwise the Brave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I bought oscar just for the fixutre as a 1 week punt, didn't work so I'll move on

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  5. Jafalad
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Stevie Me: 2 baps and third highest points scorer in the game. Influential...

    ...and where are all those Nelsen haterz?

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      "Haterz"???

      Is the correct response to this "word dude"?

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  6. isacki: full casual
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    To be fair, the Everton - Newcastle game shows why managers rotate. They all look absolutely dead on their feet, trotting around the pitch. This started well before the end...

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Well it is;

      6-0-4 against 5-1-3-1

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This, worst game for tired players.

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      rotation is key, I think where rafa went wrong was benching both of his main creative guys

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Mystified, from what some Liverpool fans said his style was to take players off early when games were won so he could play them most games, and only change a couple each game and usually not in the core positions - mainly rotated the fullbacks and wingers I think because they tired more.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Like Gerrard was rarely rotated if ever. Mata playing in the hole is his "Gerrard"

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  7. Cowshed - Blue & White …
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Got a bit of a poser with Gerrard now, only got him in when Bale got injured with a view to taking him back out when Bale came back...... now i darent take him out!

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    1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Check his fixtures out over the next four though... Enjoy the points he's given you maybe wait a few days to try and sneak a double rise and then move on 🙂

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      1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Thats my thinking, prob move him to Walcott for the double and then wildcard.

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        1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Maybe via Bale for a week...

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  8. PogChamp
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Trying not to lose heart looking at all these massive scores by reminding myself that some of the worlds best FF players use this site.

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    1. Sting
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Same, there is going to be some huge scores, and a massive average this week.

      Feel like even the 60's could be a red arrow for me.

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  9. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    what happens if it’s a tie in cup .. ranks comparison?

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    1. Alan The Llama
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      goals scored then goals conceded

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      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        wow.. I am out.. good night then..

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    2. COMH
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Goals scored to start with.

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    3. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      GS

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    4. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      No of goals scored

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  10. waitinginthelonggrass
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    6 points separate 14k and 11k, crazy.

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    1. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      How many points are they on?

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      1. waitinginthelonggrass
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I'm on 1178 pre bonus.

        Before tonight 1160 and in 11k

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  11. The Pep Revolution
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Who will get more bonus points Taarabt or Nelsen?

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  12. kingozil-The Germans once a…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I had taarabt on the bench. 🙁

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  13. Indalo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Final score everyone? 89 with Suarez and possibly Sterling bonus to come 🙂

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    1. Tadic is the new Eriksen
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      96 with 1 bap for nelsen and 3 for suarez, hopefully gonna get into the top 3k after updates 😀

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Christ. Another one. Take your wonderful score, and shove it where the sun don't shine! 🙂

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      1. Indalo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Apologies, not used to getting a big score like this

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Fair enough. Try to leave it for others to comment.

          If you pass 100 - all bets are off.

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      2. Holy See
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        A notably large amount of gloaters this evenin, even for this place.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          I think a homily is required. 😀

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          1. Holy See
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 3 months ago

            It's in the host 😉

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    3. jonny77
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      85 with suarez (c) bonus and gerrard bonus

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    4. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      82. Hopefully enough to put me in top 800

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    5. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      82 pts pre bonus

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    6. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      102 with Baines, fell, Gerrard and Suarez baps to come 😎

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    7. Sun Jihai
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      89 average from all the posters above. Must be one of the highest scoring GWs ever.

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    8. Cowshed - Blue & White …
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      132 plus baps.

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  14. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Rafa, that's what you get for benching Mata. Stupid fat spanish waiter.

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    1. BootlegRascal
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I'm sure he's devastated he hurt your fantasy team

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  15. Wings of Steel
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    So the end of year frenzy re-enforces the ff two main rules of the year.

    1. Always captain RVP
    2. Never EVER have torres in your team

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      these were last season's rules also

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  16. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Captain Shirokov you still about?

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  17. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    gonna hit 64(-4) without RVP, and only 9 players including Mata playing. I'll take it I guess!

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  18. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Avg Predictions?

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    1. Dynamic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      50

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    2. Lawrø
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      50

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    3. Pinoche
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      50 ish

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    4. SW6
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      high 40s

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    5. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      50

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    6. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      43

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  19. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Redknapps chances of getting players to join QPR improved greatly

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    1. Jax
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      lampard, beckham, falcao have just signed

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  20. SW6
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I wish i could save my WC, loving my team at the moment.

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  21. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    baines
    gerrard

    baps ?

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    1. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yes

      3
      2/1

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  22. Ocrana
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Did Suarez for Pob with WC to have a midfield of Bale / Walcott / Fellaini / Michu / Mata

    Will change Walcott for Puncheon or some random mid and Pog for Suarez after the DGW.

    Think it was worth it?

    Team is :

    Jaask / Mignolet
    Huth / O´Brien / Davies / Sagna / Cameron
    Mid above
    Berba / RvP / Pogrebnyak

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  23. Tommyg
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Baines - essential. Lol

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  24. Speaking of Spurs
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Me: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/123901/event-history/21/

    Cup opponent: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/776176/event-history/21/

    I think I lose to Suarez (C) bonus right? Both on 72 after bench changes and both with a -4 hit. Need Fellani to get 3 and Suarez 1...likely...

    Lost to a guy with Bale, Nolan and Ba not playing. Laughable.

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  25. Liastro ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I think Gerrard might be making a gatecrash into the template WC midfield.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I just have a problem spending so much money on Liverpool players. What with Suarez already nailed in my team.

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      1. Cowshed - Blue & White …
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Thats my thoughts, had them both for a few weeks but Gerrard was only ever temporary. The plus with him is that he gets 90 every game, it infuriates me when i spend 9m plus and they dont start!

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    2. Benteke Fried Chicken
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      3 goals, 6 assists and 6 bonus (not including today) in the last 6 games!

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  26. unoaime
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Well i never thought that keeping Bale meaning i had a midfield of....

    Walcott, Silva, Stirling, Noble

    would turn out to be so good. 🙂

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  27. Lao Tzu
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I was 14k before the weekend.....

    now I'm in free fall 🙁

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I was 18K before today, going down so much after 2pts from 2 players total tonight

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  28. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Criminal by Santon to shoot rather than play Cisse in. Ended up costing Newcastle.

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  29. Doctor X
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I think Hill is in more of a shout than Nelsen BPs, Had five shots blocked in comparison to Nelsens 2

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      What about Taraabt?

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    2. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Hill will get 3bps I think.

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  30. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    tonight has made my WC choices tough

    Gerrard and baines have put doubt in my head as has fellaini

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