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Dugout Discussion February 10

Sunday Dugout Discussion

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With Gareth Bale and Michu tearing up defences and delivering big returns from Saturday’s matches, there’s much anticipation ahead of Sunday’s programme. While Aston Villa’s clash with West Ham seems likely to be an edgy battle of attrition, the Old Trafford clash between United and Everton looks to have a lot going for it. Sir Alex Ferguson’s teamsheet will be of keen interest in that one, while the Toffees will be looking to repeat last season’s thrilling 4-4 draw and perhaps keep the title race interesting.

The early team news is in and sees Paul Lambert make three changes to the Villa XI, with Nathan Baker, Fabian Delph and Jordan Bowery replacing Joe Bennett, Karim El Ahmadi and Gabby Agbonlahor.

For the Hammers, Joe Cole and Emanuel Pogatetz come in for Matt Jarvis and Ricardo Vaz Te; Guy Demel is on the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to provide a backdrop to the day’s action.

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  1. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Couldn't want a Fellaini goal more desperately than now 😕

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    1. A.D.D
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      why didnt u bench him like me

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        He's on form, and besides non of my bench would've done any better

        (Anichebe, Wilson[injured], Harte)

        In hindsight Harte should've been on instead of Clichy

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      2. Declan-
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I wish i had. 10 points on the bench is painful

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      3. Yossi
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Another bloody hindsighter... Good to know everyone here gets every decision right 100% of the time 🙄 ....

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        1. A.D.D
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          its away v man u.... u think he will perform?

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    2. Yossi
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      + a billion 😕

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      1. A.D.D
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        + what i said

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  2. In Like Flynn.
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    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Jelavic on, time for Pienaar to shine.

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    1. A.D.D
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      he will chase the carrick passes, that about all

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        🙁 I'm afraid you're right A.D.D.

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  3. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Valencia looks like Michael Jackson when he was black 🙂

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    1. A.D.D
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      *Nani

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    2. Red-United
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Nani also...

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      1960's

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  4. boc610
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    yis' all knew the risk... all im gonna say on the matter 🙂

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    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      You think people that sold him didn't think he'd score? 😆 Many have benefited more from a replacement and the additional points. 1 goal since Rooney came back = "see, i told you he is essential"

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  5. BruLee2
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Anybody got the Bap Chap predictions?

    Repost

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    1. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Page three of stock check 1.

      Check it

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      1. BruLee2
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers

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  6. MJ6987
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    United have spent £11m average per season (net spend) since the Glazers took over.

    City have spent £55m average per season (net spend) since Mansour took over.

    IMO the difference between the teams (despite the gulf in spending power) is

    a) United’s players are not just there for the money (e.g. RVP would have earned more by going to City)

    and

    b) Sir Alex

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    1. Red-United
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Good lad.

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    2. A.D.D
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      yep and yep

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Posted a ppi link for you earlier.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, I saw that - awesome effort by you (and Bap Chap) Thanks

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    4. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      That stat is a bit biased when they got 80m for Ronaldo. If you just include who was bought it would be a lot closer.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Yes, but they did sell the second best player in the world so its fair to include

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    5. Nice2Michu
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      but city bought players like rodwell, sinclair, savic who are just all bench fodder

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        That's up to them

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    6. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      C)Howard Webb & Co

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This is absolute rubbish and you know it

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      2. fatherted
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        🙂 🙂

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    7. Bøwstring The Carp
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      I agree, however IMO any team that wins the league because of transfers can be said to have 'bought the league'. Spending is relative. City's spending to united is considerably different. Yet of you compare Unite'd to a mid-table club then the same can be applied. It's all about the money in 99% of cases IMO but yes I see your point

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        City could have bought some better players instead of Sinclair, Rodwell, etc (and selling Adam Johnson)

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        1. Bøwstring The Carp
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          Definitely, they were stupid buys. Hate seeing silly spending in that sense ... i.e. Liverpool.

          They need a new defense, maybe swap Pantillimon to a new keeper to kick Hart into form again

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    8. CABAYE4
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      11 years, 3 months ago

      Man U already had structure, high quality youth system and pedigree before Glazer's took over.

      Not really a fair comparison, Utd were always a top side, City were a bottom half side before the billions came in, course they're gonna need to spend more.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        This is true - was thinking that but omitted it as it didn't suit my argument 🙂

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  7. A.D.D
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    epic scramble!

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  8. Phaze 1
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Ugh so close

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  9. Billy Gilmore
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    How did that not go in? 😯

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  10. GunsnRoses
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    That was similar to Sunderland chance last night

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  11. The Shadow
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    From live text - "United fans taunting their visitors from Merseyside with some of the usual chants about unemployment by the sounds of things."

    Whatever happened to winning with class?

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    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Usual stuff from fans. Herd mentality, one or two scumbags get it going and everyone chimes in. Have yet to see a club immune to it.

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      1. The Shadow
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I just don't get this type of chant. They're fellow countrymen, suffering economically, nothing to do with football.

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        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 3 months ago

          Oh I know, stupid stuff altogether. But we've all experienced that kind of crap, even people singing about players' dead children. Herd mentality is a strange and sometimes disgusting thing.

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    2. AnfieldCat87
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      mancs never had it..

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    3. Keep Calm and Sessegnon
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Who cares?

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  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Evans so close !!

    Can imagine Doosra's reaction 😆

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  13. The Pep Revolution
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Ok I would just like to apologise to anyone I may have pissed off on the previous page about United buying the league. I realise now how idiotic it was. Will not happen again. Apologies.

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    1. Granville
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Don't worry about it, it's not like you're the first person to make that same post. There are also a lot of United fans on here who will defend their cause.

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        True also not the best timing either.

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    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      My reaction was a tad explosive, I can understand you meant no harm! Just probably not the best to discuss it during a United match 😀

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        True my timing was very poor. I actually have RVP on my team anyway so always good when he scores. 🙂

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    3. iakopu
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I can't believe how precious some of these footy fans are. It's your opinion at the the time , own it and move on

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    4. Nice2Michu
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      you are not forgiven. i hate you.

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      1. The Pep Revolution
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Thats harsh.

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    5. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Why apologize? I agree. Any team that wins the league because of transfer spending 'buys the league'. There is only so much influence Ferguson can have at the end of the day. It's all about the money in 99% of cases

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    6. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      I have so much respect for you. Gentlemen and scholar 🙂

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    7. Says
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      But you were right... that's why Arsenal won the league every year when they had RVP.

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  14. Red-United
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    wow cleverley!

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  15. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Training with Scholes.

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      looks like it... and what a save

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    2. Red-United
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Let's hope Scholes hasn't been teaching him how to tackle too...

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  16. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Jevans 3 shots on target in two seconds 😯

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  17. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    What a save!

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  18. rabsi1
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    evans 3 shots on target, certainty for bonus now, yes? 😛

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      probably

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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      1 of them was blocked

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  19. I taught Ashley Young how t…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Erghh need over 2.5 goals. How did that not go in!

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  20. berbatron
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Best PL eleven without top 7 (I do include Liverpool in top 7 not Swansea)?

    ------------------------Begovic------------------------
    Debuchy---Shawx--Samba----Garrido-------
    -----------------Tiote-----Cabaye-------------------
    Kone----------------Michu-----------Ben Arfa---
    ---------------------Bentekkers---------------------

    Bench: Vorm, Rangel, Huth, Diame, Taarabt, A Johonson, Berbatov

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    1. SW6
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Debuchy, Garrido, Tiote, Kone, Ben Arfa all out in my opinion

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    2. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Maybe Adam Johnson? Wouldn't agree with Tiote, not a big fan...

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    3. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Santon over Garrido, Reither over Debuchy, Colo over Samba.

      Yacob over Tiote, Ruiz/Johnson over Kone

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  21. A.D.D
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    carricks out for a corner was what barry was trying to do yesterday hahahahaha

    manccityshite

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  22. Rossamous
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    RVP did nothing and got 3 bp last game, any chance that Rooney gets 3 bp?

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    1. Portuguese&Proud
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      😆

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    2. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      😀

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    3. Stephen - Robot Daniels
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Snodgrass 3

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        😀

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  23. Granville
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    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Cleverley unsung. Rarely a stray pass, keeping the ball moving, going about his business with aplomb today.

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    1. Bolt-on
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Playing well today but overall just an average player

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      1. Granville
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        I don't agree, he's very inexperienced. I don't think he's even played 30 games for United yet.

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    2. Lateriser 12
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Everyone but our wingers are in good nick. Valencia needs a goal, some confidence.

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      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Valencia needs a kick up the arse.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Unfortunately it doesn't get me many points.

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    4. magic.inside
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      +1. He's so crucial to the cause. Deserves more praise.

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  24. MJ6987
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    And another thing, I am not having a go at anyone or saying this because he has scored / assisted today but I personally can't see past having RVP in my side and working around that...

    Best striker in the league
    Top scorer last year
    Probably top scorer this year
    Playing as the main striker for the best team in the league
    Nailed on
    On penalties
    On free kicks
    On corners!
    In the form of his life!

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    1. 4vets
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Preaching to the converted.

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    2. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah but he's sooooooooooooooo mainstream.

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      1. 1966 was a great year for E…
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        11 years, 3 months ago

        This is the key! Damn hipsters 😉

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    3. boc610
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      people automatically assumed that because they sold him suddenly his hauls would dry up even though nothing even remotely suggested that would be the case, its the same with sturridge owners praying suarez wont deliver.

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    4. I taught Ashley Young how t…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Amen

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    5. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Scores when he wants?

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        That as well

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  25. Alan The Llama
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    I love the old clips of Rooney playing in goal. He's some keeper.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UkVZZnrC4E#t=2m02s

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      😀

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    2. Spencer
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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Just like school days; fat boy gets picked last and goes in gol!

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  26. JD_96
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Marriappa to come off the bench....... sweeeeeeeet

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  27. Lawrø
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Fellaini now playing deeper...

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    1. Red-United
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Good

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    2. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Have him, but good news for my Rafa clean sheet

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  28. JELLYFISH
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    11 years, 3 months ago

    Massive win for Villa today....huge!

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    1. A.D.D
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      massive or huge?

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  29. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Baines is no Cole.

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    1. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Agree. Overrated (defensively).

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      1. Chris_Fàbregas #DOOS…
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah he can take a good free kick and penalty, but defensively he is average.

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  30. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 3 months ago

    Rafael has grown into a really good player 🙂

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Right on cue. Great tackle.
      Made a couple of crucial errors this season but has improved drastically.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 3 months ago

      Outstanding.

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