Season Review

The Promoted – End of Season Report – Crystal Palace

With reports on both Cardiff City and and Hull City already written up last week, our final article on the promoted sides features Crystal Palace. Having finished fifth in the Championship, 15 points behind Malky Mackay’s table-toppers, Ian Holloway’s side clinched promotion thanks to a dramatic Play-Off final win over Watford on Monday afternoon.

Back in the Premier League after an eight-year absence, Palace also got the better of Brighton over two-legs in the Play-Off semi-finals. Although Holloway’s side failed to concede in all three of their knockout matches, they somewhat lacked in defensive resilience over the full domestic campaign…

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total461915127362+117211
Home2313825231+21476
Away2367102131-10255

CS = Cleansheets

Palace finished the season as second top scoring side in the Championship, though their performances at home and on the road were significantly contrasting. Holloway’s side racked up 52 goals at Selhurst Park – more than any home side in the league – and scored two or more goals in 18 of the 23 fixtures in front of their own supporters. Indeed, Palace demonstrated a real eye for goal at home, notching at least three times on nine occasions but they left themselves open to the opposition attack and registered a mere six clean sheets at Selhurst Park. Furthermore, they shipped 31 goals in front of their own fans, more than double Cardiff’s 15, for example.

On the road, Holloway’s side mustered just 21 goals over the season – the third lowest away attack in the Championship. Palace scored more than a single goal in only six of their 23 matches away from Selhurst Park and with just four goals in their final 10 road trips, Fantasy managers will be confident of backing home sides when Holloway’s troops come calling. The London club conceded two or more goals on nine occasions but with just five clean sheets on their travels, their defensive displays in the league were somewhat at odds with their Play-Off performances.

The Manager

Palace are Holloway’s sixth club as manager, though it was only really at former club Blackpool that he achieved a relative degree of success. Guiding the Tangerines to Premier League promotion after a Play-Off Final win over Cardiff back in May 2010, his attacking brand of football afforded Fantasy managers a cut-price phenomenon in Charlie Adam before Blackpool dropped through the relegation trap door a year later. Holloway almost made an immediate return, though, steering the club to the 2012 Play-Off Final before tasting defeat at the hands of Sam Allardyce’s West Ham.

After three years at the Bloomfield Road club, the Bristol-born manager quit for family reasons and took up the Selhurst Park reins in November last year, after Dougie Freedman left to take charge of Bolton. Holloway has only had one transfer window to make any sort of alterations to the squad personnel, then, though his loan acquisition of Kevin Phillips proved a canny piece of business, with the forward netting seven times – including the Wembley winner – from just 16 appearances.

Tactically, it’s possible that his brief spell in the top-flight with Blackpool could see Holloway rein in the offensive football that all too often saw his previous club caught on the break – Palace’s lack of pace at the back could also dictate his approach. Certainly, a compact 4-2-3-1 formation, with high pressing from the most advanced quartet, proved fundamental to Palace’s success over the Play-Offs, though Holloway has also switched to a front two late on in games when his side needed an extra offensive threat.

The Promoted Squad

Listed below are the players who featured in at least half Palace’s 46 league games, with the Play-Off statistics also included:

Julian Speroni (49 apps) nailed-on between the sticks, the big Argentine will certainly guarantee game time. Bearing in mind that Cardiff’s David Marshall registered 18 clean sheets, however, Speroni could struggle for our Fantasy attention, given Palace’s comparative inability to keep out opponents.

Joel Ward (28 apps, 1 assist) signed from Portsmouth last summer, he started the season as first-choice right-back before being sidelined for months with a torn groin muscle. Versatile enough to play in midfield, he regained his regular role towards the end of the season once fully-fit.

Jonathan Parr (38 apps, 4 assists) the left-back’s campaign came to a premature end after he sustained damaged ankle ligaments against Ipswich in April. Parr is uncertain whether he’ll be fit to start pre-season training in tandem with his team mates but is optimistic of being fit for the beginning of the 2013/14 campaign.

Damien Delaney (43 apps, 3 goals, 2 assists) arrived at Selhurst Park from Ipswich last summer and was immediately installed as a key figure at the heart of the Palace back-four. Given his side’s poor defensive displays, he looks set to be a busy man next term, though his attacking contribution may catch the eye for those looking for a cut-price option at the back.

Peter Ramage (40 apps, 4 goals, 1 assist) the former Newcastle man has signed up for another couple of years over the past week and is clearly part of Holloway’s plans. Having partnered Delaney for the vast majority of the season, however, he lost his starting role to Danny Gabbidon for the run in – although the latter made just 13 appearances over the course of the campaign, Holloway seemed to rely on him when it mattered most.

Dean Moxey (33 apps, 4 assists) versatile enough to play at both centre-half and left-back, he may well have to rely on injuries to others to supplement his game time. Reports hint at a possible exit, with Moxey likely to be no more than a bench-warmer in the season ahead, particularly if Parr gains fitness for the start of the campaign.

Yannick Bolasie (45 apps, 3 goals, 8 assists) moved to the club from Bristol City last August, the DR Congo international starred on the left wing in all but four of Palace’s 49 fixtures. While Zaha hogged the headlines, Bolasie mirrored the new United man’s eight assists over the 46 league games.

Kagisho Dikgacoi (42 apps, 4 goals, 2 assists) forced off with a calf injury early on in the Play-Off Final, the former Fulham man chipped in with a decent attacking contribution from deep. Likely to be handed a sitting role in the double-pivot if Holloway utilises a 4-2-3-1, his contribution could be minimal next time around.

Mile Jedinak (44 apps, 3 goals, 3 assists) a tireless central midfielder, he’s likely to be afforded plenty starts but, similar to Dikgacoi, may struggle to find himself in advanced areas as Holloway looks to tighten up defensively.

Owen Garvan (30 apps, 4 goals, 6 assists) another player who has been handed a new contract since the club’s promotion. Garvan was fielded as the most advanced of the central midfield trio and may prove an unlikely off the radar prospect if he nails down the role in “the hole” next season. His game time was limited due to a knee injury but he was reinstalled to the first XI when fit.

Andre Moritz (29 apps, 5 goals, 4 assists) a Brazilian attacking midfielder, he arrived on a free transfer last summer. Chipped in with a respectable tally but was mainly relying on sub appearances by the time the season came to a close and now looks to be behind Garvan in the pecking order.

Wilfried Zaha (46 apps, 8 goals, 9 assists) loaned back to the club after signing for United in January, his departure leaves Holloway with plenty to ponder. As his Wembley display highlighted, Zaha was the jewel in Palace’s side and it’s little wonder Holloway is already pondering a loan move for his services.

Jonathan Williams (32 apps, 1 assist) a highly-rated product of the club’s youth academy, he was preferred to Bolasie on the left in the Play-Offs. Could be handed a regular role as a result of Zaha’s departure, though much depends on Holloway’s summer shopping spree.

Glenn Murray (43 apps, 30 goals, 7 assists) joined in the summer of 2011 on a free transfer from Brighton and scored just seven goals in his first season at Selhurst Park. Last term, though, he ran riot and, with spot-kicks also in his locker, played a part in more than 50% of his side’s goals. Murray was the only player from any of the promoted sides to register double figures but could face up to nine months on the sidelines with a knee injury.

Aaron Wilbraham (24 apps, 2 assists) in for the injured Murray for the Play-Off Final, his poor finishing almost proved costly. Having failed to score since last August, it’s a fair assumption he’ll be a bit-part player at best.

Potential Targets

With Zaha at United, Phillips back at Blackpool and Murray stuck in the treatment room, Holloway looks to have a busy summer of wheeling and dealing on the cards. Immediately after the Watford win, the Palace boss was typically frank in offering his assessment of the situation:

“Everybody wrote us off, everybody. In a two-horse race there was one horse. We had no chance at Brighton away. We had enough match winners in our team that would cause a few problems. I’ve got to make sure we’ve got that next year. It all starts now for me because the minute we kick off next we’re on a hiding to nothing, so we’ve got to make sure we can compete and I want to stay there.”

The London club are likely to be heavily involved in the transfer market right up until the end of August, then, with Holloway already hinting he’ll mull up a loan move for Zaha should David Moyes give him any encouragement. Palace co-chairman Steve Parrish has admitted the club are interested in in Real Madrid forward Javier Acuna, who notched 16 goals in 34 games on loan at Spanish Second Division side Girona and is out of contract next month. Intriguingly, Darren Bent’s name has also been mentioned after the arrival of Christian Benteke has knocked him out the Villa first-team. While Holloway is keen to snap up Phillips on a permanent deal, he’s likely to be handed the “Adam Le Fondre” role at best, climbing off the bench late on in games when his side require a goal.

In midfield, a potential reunion with Charlie Adam has been mentioned – his lack of mobility and industry may allow Holloway to sit him in front of the back-four and play passes from a deep-lying playmaker position as Palace look to hit on the break. Tottenham’s forgotten man David Bentley and team mate Jake Livermore are also linked. Certainly, Andre Villas-Boas allowed many of his fringe players to leave the Lane on loan last time out and Holloway would offer Livermore the chance of regular game time, should the Spurs boss decide against a permanent deal.

Out wide, Holloway’s previous working relationship with Tom Ince at Blackpool may come in handy, while he could offer Peter Odemwingie a way out of West Brom. Holloway was interested back in January but the Nigerian didn’t want to drop down a division –the Palace boss is now in a stronger bargaining position as he looks to fill the flanks with top-flight experience.

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  1. In Like Flynn.
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    For those who support clubs in the lower leagues. These Arsenal players have been released and will be available without transfer fee as from the first of July.

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/arsenal-release-10-young-players

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    1. Wild Rover
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      Saw an interview with Meade on SSN earlier, said he's had offers from home and abroad already

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Some decent prospects among those, I thought.

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    2. GreennRed
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      Going the opposite way, allegedly, Arsenal and Everton were interested in this guy. Not too many homebased U21 internationals here. An amazing touch, not sure he'd be physically tough enough yet for the PL. Chris Forrester.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU72p2qZvUs

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Great touch for the first goal. How much would he cost do you think,Greennred?

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    3. Crokey
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      We signed Eastmond and Watt on loan from them last season, Eastmond we have now signed permanently and we have offered a deal to Watt, not too sure if we will sign him but if we do i could see us being a decent side next season 🙂

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      1. In Like Flynn.
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        Thanks Crokey, I shall check out the news. Good Luck for the season.

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  2. TorresMagic™
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    Game 6 between Heat & Pacers just started.

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    1. GreennRed
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      Feck all but I wouldn't have a clue really. A few hudred grand, euros. Everton bought Coleman from Sligo a few years ago for 60,000. The League of Ireland is semi professional.

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    1. In Like Flynn.
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      I'd missed the Reina leaving story. Mignolet would be a great replacement.

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      1. Dukes of Hazard
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        I thought begovic was the favourite to replace pepe? Also with valdes now seeing the end of his contract, will reina still leave?

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          I've no idea, I'm not signed up for Liverpool newsletters.

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        2. Licky
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          My understanding is Vorm is Rodgers's first choice..

          Cheers

          Macca

          This guy is very reliable.

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          1. Dukes of Hazard
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            Hum.... Vorm, begovic and mignolet. Not to sure which I would rather have.

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      2. Licky
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        Apparently if Barca don't come for Reina there is little chance he will leave for somewhere else, and with Valdes now staying i would think it unlikely.

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  3. GreennRed
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    Castel di Sangro :

    Ostbo
    Biragi, Dawson, Harush
    Isco, Singh, Holtby, Sarabia
    Pedersen, Wijnaldum, Mlapa

    Zabolotnny, Maher, Carvajal, Nuytinck

    😉

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  4. Dukes of Hazard
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    Not that i have seen anything to interesting but how good a source is talksport?

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    1. GreennRed
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      Usually pretty good. Has a few windups though at times.But Carra got them back one fine day 😉

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnOOOfyctGw

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      1. Dukes of Hazard
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        Ha, I actually find Durham half amusing. Yer he's a bit of a tool, but he makes me chuckle.

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        1. GreennRed
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          I think he's a talentless muppet. Will always try to provoke an arguement on-air just to liven up his show. He used to have an Anti - Arsenal spot every show. Then he had (might still have it) an "AVB hasn't a clue" spot when Villas Boas got the Spurs job. Wenger and AVB never played the game but they've forgoten more about the game than Durham will ever know if he lived to a billion years.

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          1. Dukes of Hazard
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            Haha, have you listened to his one about Rvp bullying a ginger kid with glass after his chip penalty against wolves. The man an idiot but he gets a reaction out of people (no doubt on purpose) and as long as I don't have to listen to it to often, the amount of wuming is mildly humourus.

            But I think everyone will agree, he's a muppet.

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      2. Licky
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        I particularly liked this comment in the Youtube comments section. 'Adrian Durham is A FUKKKIN CLOWN. HE DESERVES A COCK UP THE ARSE.'

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        1. GreennRed
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          Check the comments at the top here -

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qagDYQ-HSOI

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          1. Licky
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            Hehe. 😉

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            1. Dukes of Hazard
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              Why does he have an arsenal shirt on?

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              1. GreennRed
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                Not sure but I remeber one show where the next days he was going to the Emirates for a game. I think if his own club Peterborough lost that night he'd wear an Arsenal jersey the next night at the Emirates cos he lost a bet.

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                1. Dukes of Hazard
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                  And then I guess anyone who posted a video about him would use that picture because no one like him. Makes sense then I guess

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  5. isacki: full casual
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    ON THIS DAY - 6 MONTHS AGO

    In this vain attempt to dodge the tumbleweed blowing around this deadest of deadzones, we revisit RMTs from the past.

    Mini Mahouse says: January 2 at 4:36 pm

    I just wildcarded, the team now looks like this:

    ————— Begovic ——————
    —–Wilkinson – Cameron – Cuellar
    Mata – Bale – Fellaini – Michu – Walcott
    ———- RVP — Suarez ————–

    Bench: Jaask – Pogrebnyak – O’brien – Nelsen

    How do you guys rate this team?
    I think im pretty happy with it. I cant think of a much better front 7 then this. My defence is really cheap with the highest priced defender costing 4,7 but it will still be getting alot of clean sheets with those Stoke defenders (who have the best defence in the league) and Cuellar and O’brien are not bad either.

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    1. GreennRed
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      Nice one. But I did shit in FF and hoping U21s might improve my luck. Have a go at that and please rate my team below to keep the tumbleweeds at bay 😉

      Castel di Sangro :

      Ostbo
      Biragi, Dawson, Harush
      Isco, Singh, Holtby, Sarabia
      Pedersen, Wijnaldum, Mlapa

      Zabolotnny, Maher, Carvajal, Nuytinck

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Ahhh.... here's the bit where I give up pretending I know anything about U21 players.

        Never heard of him
        Never heard of him | Yeah! | Never heard of him
        Yeah! | Never heard of him | Sounds good | Never heard of him
        Never heard of him | Thought was a made up joke name | Never heard of him

        Never heard of him | Never heard of him | Never heard of him | Never heard of him

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          And here's the bit where I realize that the Dawson there is definitely not the Michael Dawson I have heard of.

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          1. GreennRed
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            He's Englands top scorer. 5 goals in qualifiers for a defender, how bad. Craig Dawson, West Brom.

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        2. GreennRed
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          Me too, a week ago. Holtby and Isco were the only ones I knew. Actually thought Maher was Irish. When I saw Dawson for England I thought it was Michael and they could have an over-age player.

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            Great minds. So no overage players eh.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      5 MONTHS AGO*

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      1. GreennRed
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        Nostalgia ain't what it used to be.

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      2. isacki: full casual
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        😳

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    3. Dukes of Hazard
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      Any team with pog's a no no. There are so many good option in the 6mill range the I would downgrade Michu (trust me, he's about to lose form) and her benteke. You won't regret it.

      Also stoke I feel are about to forget how to defend and go on a mad one. Swap begovic for ddg as he's nailed on, and hit demel instead of obrien.

      You can thank me latter

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        I just can't see any of that happening. I mean Michu could win the golden boot. And Villa are clearly getting relegated.

        Next thing you'll be telling me Pulis is going to get sacked...

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
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          And get replaced by Hughes...

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            😆

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  6. TorresMagic™
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    Pacers looking good now.

    Could be 3-3 after tonight.

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    1. tw
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      And the heat looking awful. Two missed layups in a row :).

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  7. isacki: full casual
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    Former Premier League players rejoining the division with the promoted clubs:

    Ahmed Elmohamady
    Peter Ramage
    Kagisho Dikgacoi
    Craig Bellamy
    Fraizer Campbell
    Nicky Maynard
    David Stockdale
    Liam Rosenior
    Abdoulaye Faye
    David Meyler

    Add any more you remember. Ahhh the memories.

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    1. GreennRed
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      Robbie Brady and Paul McShane. Both are ex United but I think only played League Cup.

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        Good call, what is it with the unlimited number of ex United players in midtable and below

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        1. GreennRed
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          Sure with their name they'll get the pick of any potential youngsters the cull the ones they think won't make their high standards which must be a large percentage of them.

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        2. Licky
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          For every Scholes there is a hundred what might have beens.

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          1. GreennRed
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            For Scholes there's millions of might have beens. Some player for one player.

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    2. Black Knights
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      Thank you for adding something that isn't transfer game or under 21 game related. I'm struggling to come up with anything. I guess Brazil later might give us something.

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  8. Licky
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    Atsu
    Eriksen
    Luis Alberto
    Toure
    Aspas
    Luis Muriel
    Villa
    Navas
    Grenier
    Papadopuolos
    Benteke

    I think this speculation will be the death of me.

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    1. GreennRed
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      Forget Eriksen. As Brian Kerr would say he's good knicky knacky player but at 21 and a bit if he was as good as some say he wouldn't be still in the Dutch League. I check him each time Denmark are in a championships and a similar story to when he plays in Europe. He doesn't really hit the heights. Technically a very good player, I think he'd need a bit of building up for the PL.

      What about Long, Lukaku and McCarthy? No rumours at all but I think all would be good at Pool.

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      1. Licky
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        He's still in the Dutch league because he decided to stay there, Ajax want to sell now while they can still get good money before his contract runs out while it was Eriksens intention to stay until next year and move to either Barca or Real.

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        1. Licky
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          He won't go to Liverpool though.

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  9. Ryan
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    What is the best and most reliable transfer speculation site?

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      😆 looking for the magic bullet eh?

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      1. Ryan
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        😀 I've always used ESPN but there might be something better

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    2. Licky
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      There are a few sites like this http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/
      There is one for Chelsea and United as well, not sure of others but the Macca posts on the Liverpool site are very reliable.

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      1. Ryan
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        That seems to be a public forum. I'd suggest that a site not affiliated with a club is likely to be more reliable.

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        1. Licky
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          No, no. These sites are run by people who will respond to questions, for example at the end of a comment you'll see {Ed001's note: }

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          1. Ryan
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            Hmm its an interesting concept. Although I'd prefer just a standard written article about the latest transfer news rather than trawling through various questions people have.

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            1. Licky
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              True, I like it because it weeds out what is speculation from what is true. Sky Sports seem to be on the ball most of the time though.

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        2. Dukes of Hazard
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          Tbf I usually find FFS to be super quick when it comes to transfers, just with the sheer amount of people searching. I guess however during this game period people will e holding there cares close to their chest.

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      2. isacki: full casual
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        There's a link there to a 'Menopausal Man Talk' ( http://www.menopausalmantalk.co.uk/ ) 😆 😆 😆

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        1. Ryan
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          Something Liverpool fans have in common perhaps 😉

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    3. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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      I think I can honestly say this one.
      When Hair Bear moved house closer to Manchester last season I put a lot of weight on it.

      I know the deals were already done by then and MU knew who was gonna be there next manager.

      Semantics.

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  10. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
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    Herbs, spices. fruit and vegetables.

    We must embrace these natural wonders . Especially Turmeric, watercress and tomatoes.

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      this is one of the scariest posts Ive seen on ffs

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  11. Acquafresca
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    Neagle(c) 😕

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    1. tw
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      Did you go with it?

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      1. Acquafresca
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        Yup. Follow your sports gut! 😉

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        1. tw
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          I'll be hoping it works for you :). Did you see my email about Neagle? Is definitely encouraging

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        2. tw
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          Neagle assist already so good for you! Should've listened to me and gotten Martins too though

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  12. Gaz Downright
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    Heurelho Gomes to Liverpool

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    1. Ryan
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      Where did u find that?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        I invented it

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  13. SuperOsçarBaby
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    HEAT FTW.

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    1. tw
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      Pacers ftw!!!

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  14. Gaz Downright
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    Morales is getting hard to ignore

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    1. Acquafresca
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      Lol. How can you not own him by now?

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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Looks like Game 7 will be needed between the Heat & Pacers.

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      YES!!! 😀

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  16. Gaz Downright
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    when does international duty end?

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      When we die.

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    1. Dukes of Hazard
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      This better not happen, I have waited 2 years for holloway to be back in the premier league.

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  17. Gaz Downright
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Obafemi Martins all aboard!

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      😀

      Did you get him?

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        dodged a bullet there

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      He's a Shearer from Nigeria 🙂

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  18. GreennRed
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Does Jeremy Irons sometimes have a little chuckle to himself when he does the ironing?

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      this was quite funny the first time

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      1. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Feckit. Tough crowd in tonight 😮

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    2. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      🙂

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  19. tw
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    LOL what an own goal by chivas 😆

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  20. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    NEAGLE ASSIST.

    Noice.

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      You will be winning FMLS. 🙂

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Rosales assist was better 😆

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        There`s no assists for OGs.

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  21. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    I think the Manchester's have a serious problems in the coming season.

    Both will be with transitional managers and behind the scenes structures.

    If there is a time for the London outfits to strike it will be now. And I think I will be taking on the bookies with Arsenal to win the Prem. Thoughts.

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Crystal Palace's chance is now

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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Thoughts not Dorothy and Oz.

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    2. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      In the bookies with the big window.

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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        And your point is?

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    3. Dukes of Hazard
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      God I would love that..

      It all depends what arsenal/spurs do this summer.i reckon both team's need 4/5 more players in an around the first team (if no big players leave) to have the squad to compete over 38 games with both the manc's and chelsea. I am not as convinced that moyes will keep united at the same level in his first couple of season's it's a huge jump for him and a couple of bad results and the pressure will be on!

      Personally, I think chelsea will win.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I've heard you're also part of the Everton squad for the transfers game. I'm looking forward to working with you DOH

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          That I am Ryan, Saniul had a vision I just couldn't say no to 😉

          Should be fun, it's feels more like a game of mental calculation rather than skill, will be interesting to see how it all pans out.

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      2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Yes I really think there is an angle on this. I can see Moyles looking ten years older after one season and I'm reading all the gossip at the moment. And where does that leave Eve. (another story)

        I think Chelsk is interesting but again that transitional thing is bugging me with them also. I think Ars with the Ars will be great value.

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I was listening to Neville Southall talking about Everton and how he would like to see them move on. He wa against the idea of Martinez taking over which I found interesting.

          He's point was that;
          1: He smiles to much for a team at the bottom end of the premierleague.
          And
          2: that Everton have been lacking goals under moyes. They where always solid at the back and built on this. Martinez has been in the premier league a long time and hasn't rely ever tightened it at the back. Pretty football is nice but he felt Martinez would damage that defensive foundation which has allowed Everton to achieve a decent position every year.

          I am not sure i agree with him, how many top class managers are available and would go to Everton? I think marinez is the best option with Duncan ferguson and phil Neville behind the scene. Try and keep the ideology the club ha under moyes with people who understand it while bringing in a young manager who has shown he can produce attacking football

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          1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Everton excelled themselves last season after taking advantage of them not usually starting too well but came off the blocks this time.

            I think Moyles statement that whoever takes over the mantle will find a great team of professionals who will do them proud, is a bit loose, when he has already (forgone conclusion) put there best player in his traveling bag.

            I see Liverpool comfortably being above there neighbors this season

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            1. Dukes of Hazard
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              So can I. I think this season will be exiting in that you will have a very competitive fight for the top 6/5 places followed by a very close 7-19 with hull miles off the pace.

              In other words a more exiting but similar scenario to this season.

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    4. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      What odds can you get?

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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Checked on oddschecker and It's quite surprising they can't give a Fav as the Mancs are both at 2/1. (average)

        Chelsk best is 5/2 interesting?

        But Ars are best at 14/1.! Gotta be a good value bet I say.

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    5. Al Pacino
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'll be making another cheeky bet on United, odds will be lower but they still have a great chance. Did it last season, everyone called me crazy with Chelsea's midfield bolster but it turned out pretty well 😛

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  22. Dukes of Hazard
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Sir Alex ferguson lasted 21 years as manager of Manchester United...

    However this pales in comparison to the 44 years ..... spent in charge of .... from 1961 to 2005. Who managed to promote and keep his side in his respective countries first division.

    Who is this immortal of a man and over which club did he dictate proceedings over 44 years.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      He was a hell of a Guy.

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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      I'd guess Guy Roux.

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      1. Dukes of Hazard
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        You know your ligue 1 both correct.

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        1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I'm not pretentious. I just know how to google.

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          1. Dukes of Hazard
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Fair play.

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  23. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    TW, Martins red 😕

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      :(.

      Wtf was he supposed to do there!? Just trying to get up

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I'm not watching, just updates on my phone.

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        1. da Beeeez
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          just saw a replay on MLS Matchday app. Not sure what the ref thought he saw.

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          1. da Beeeez
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            Just saw you ended up not going for Magee. Although I was against it, I ended up taking the leap, although more due to inability to find anyone better than real excitement about it. That, and wanting to give him a proper send off from LA.

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            1. da Beeeez
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              By the way, any hot tips for next week. It will be a tough one with so few games.

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  24. tw
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    No way that's a red card. Thanks ref!

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Better for Neagle next game 😉

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Worse imo

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      2. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Would've been much better for you and neagle if he'd gotten it next match

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  25. Gaz Downright
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Bandwagon cancelled

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      😆

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Hoping the league will rescind it

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  26. tw
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Sounders!!

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      *tumbleweed*

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  27. Ryan
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 11 months ago

    Dukes of Hazard, I've just noticed you've taken 27 hits yet still finished in the top 400 in the world. Thats simply amazing.

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    1. Dukes of Hazard
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Yer.... My view on hits differ's a lot compared to everyone else here... Obviously don't go trigger happy but there is a method to it.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah I bet. Was this your first season taking the game seriously?

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Yer, i mean i was looking at my team every week towards the end of last year but having only got into the game gw 8 I was never going to do well.

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          1. Dukes of Hazard
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            You have had a really steady season, gw 1 being your lowest all round rank must be a first.

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            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah and it was a solid rank in the top 70k too. Yes I'm pleased with my consistency. A good start helps.

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      2. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        And what is that method might I ask?

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          Don't just think about it as a like for like swap.

          What can that transfer do to the rest of your team in terms of team value, allowing you to have funds to make another transfer, putting you in a position to make another transfer the week after, allows you to make the most of fixtures. It's all obvious stuff, just i find that people usually only look at a hit like a like for like transfer, where as i don't see it in that way. Yes maybe the hit won't pay itself back but it might allow me to make bigger strides on the rest of my team.

          Then there is the whole team value/dgw hits which are obvious.

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 11 months ago

      Altogether last season i took about 96pts in hits and came in the top 22k

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 11 months ago

        I cant help myself most the time and yet in gw29 i was as high as 9k

        quite good

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        1. Dukes of Hazard
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 11 months ago

          I find its a win or lose situation.

          I either it works well or it fails miserably.

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          1. crystalpalaceRus
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 11 months ago

            In my first serious season would you say it was a fail? seeing as i was only put in the 20k's late on as well

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            1. Dukes of Hazard
              • 10 Years
              10 years, 11 months ago

              You misunderstand me,

              I was talking about week to week. Those extra 4 point deducted mean a bad gw becomes a hell of a lot worst, 4 points doesnt sound like much but it can make you fall a few thousand extra places if your in the peleton.

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              1. crystalpalaceRus
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 11 months ago

                No im just askin with nearly 100pts in hits taken through the season finishing in top 22k good?

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                1. Dukes of Hazard
                  • 10 Years
                  10 years, 11 months ago

                  Well i think a top 22K finish is good regardless of hit's as I don't necessarily see them as a hindrance.

                  So the answer is yes, especially in a first season

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                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 11 months ago

                    I wish I took more hits during the season. I guess everyone has their own style.

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