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The Sun Dream Team – Selection Guide – Goalkeepers

Having re-introduced the Sun Dream Team (DT) last week, we now begin a series of articles that will help guide team selection in preparation for the season kick-off.

Over the course of our analysis, we will examine each position and assess the factors that can govern selection, including specific Dream Team strategies and an insight into last season’s data that will help us discuss the various options on offer.

We begin, as always, at the back, running the rule over our options between the sticks.

The Strategies

The goalkeeping position is one that’s easy to dismiss. Across the Fantasy games it’s often neglected, with genuine resentment brewed when we’re forced to address it with a transfer. In Dream Team, with just 12 trades over the season, this is certainly the case.

Another factor stacked against the maligned Dream Team keeper is that, compared to the other positions, they typically generate far fewer points. Chelsea’s Petr Cech was the top scoring stopper on offer last term, registering a tally of 156 points – a total significantly boosted by domestic and European cup campaigns that earned him a huge 59 starts in total, 14 more than any other keeper. Ranked below Cech, only Joe Hart, David De Gea and Pepe Reina managed to edge above the 100-point mark. The table below lists the top ten goalkeepers based on last season’s scoring.

Top Ten Dream Team Keepers by Overall Points 2012/13

NameTeamStarts7+ RatingsStar ManCSGCPoints 12/13
CechChelsea592412065156
HartManchester City451521846128
de GeaManchester United411811242106
ReinaLiverpool381301643100
LlorisTottenham Hotspur33151113493
MignoletSunderland40211115893
SchwarzerFulham3921286390
BegovicStoke City38132124587
HowardEverton40151104486
JaaskelainenWest Ham United40171115685

Comparing these tallies to the other positions, we find that there were no less than 19 defenders who earned over 100 points, with Leighton Baines outscoring Cech by a 41-point margin. The gap is even wider when we look to midfielders and forwards, with Gareth Bale’s tally more than double that of Cech with a mammoth 331 points. A total of 35 midfielders and 24 forwards all scored above the 100-point threshold, compared to the four keepers.

There are several factors at play here. Goalkeepers typically find it harder to earn the 7+ Sun ratings in matches (worth 3 points), with only four (Cech, Simon Mignolet, Mark Schwarzer and Brad Guzan) collecting these on more than 20 occasions last season. In contrast, we saw 10 defenders, 22 midfielders and 10 forwards all reach this threshold.

This is also reflected in Star Man awards (worth 5 points) – Julio Cesar’s five was more than any keeper, thanks to his frequently busy displays behind a fragile QPR back four. Cech, as the top scoring stopper, earned just a single star man award with team-mate Juan Mata snaffling no less than 15. Quite simply, then, the keeper can be overlooked and overshadowed and this has a marked impact on their DT totals.

That’s not to say there aren’t deals to be done; rewards to be had for a bit of foresight and research. West Ham’s Jussi Jaaskelainen was superb value last term, offering 85 points for a paltry £1 million. Only four players (Michu, Jay Rodriguez, Morgan Schneiderlin and Christian Benteke) delivered better points per million DT value.

This is the type of return on investment we’re looking for from our keeper. We either shop for that kind of bargain, confident that we can find a regular starter who will return double figure clean sheet returns and regular 7+ ratings, or we spend big and find that assured asset who will possibly, with the help of a cup run, get close to 20 shut-outs.

The transfer windows aren’t a prime concern with this position. We can make our selection with these in mind but, in truth, our trades are surely better spent elsewhere. We’re ideally looking for a “fire and forget” option: the one player we can sign and leave for the duration of the season, freeing up our transfers for midfield and up front.

The Players

A few days ago, the goalkeeping situation was somewhat fuzzy but, with news of Pepe Reina’s impending loan move to Napoli, suddenly the path to our Dream Team keeper looks far clearer. Liverpool’s Simon Mignolet, priced at just £3 million, now stands out as a clear first choice stopper behind a defence that helped Reina to a total of 100 DT points, a fair return for his £3.5 million price tag. Mignolet is cheaper this time around and arrives having earned 7+ Sun ratings on 21 occasions: only Cech, in 19 more appearances, exceeded this.

While Mignolet is unlikely to attract similar ratings playing in front of a solid Liverpool back four, this will surely be offset by improved clean sheet returns. While you can also plunder Kolo Toure to cover Liverpool’s defensive potential, the lure of Mignolet, as a more secure starter, looks to be firmly in his favour. There is even a strong case to acquire both and double on Brendan Rodgers’ defence – a rearguard that was second only to Man City for league shut-outs (15 in total).

The one drawback to Mignolet is the lack of European appearances. We saw how this influenced Cech’s tally last term (72 points from European matches) so this has to be a consideration.

To acquire the potential offered by European starts, we have to look to the usual cast of heavy-hitters. Led by Cech and backed by Joe Hart and David De Gea, these assets offer alternative routes and we have to consider that, while they will play behind rotating defences, their security of game time, particularly in the league, looks strong.

The trio should push well over the 40 appearances mark and that consistent level of starts looks hard to find in each of those defences. Domestic cup rotation looks an issue but, in Europe, all three should feature – at least until they suffer a Champions League exit.

Significantly, Cech can be acquired for £5.5 million compared to the likes of Branislav Ivanovic and David Luiz, who have been slapped with £6.5 million price tags. Similarly, De Gea is 0.5 less expensive than the likes of Patrice Evra and Hart is £6 million to Vincent Kompany’s £6.5 million. There are cheaper options across these defences but, as always, question marks hang over their security of starts and vulnerability to rotation.

Arsenal’s Wojciech Szczesny is another worthy option to consider. He’ll face another Champions League campaign and currently looks fairly assured of his start between the sticks at the Emirates. At just £4 million, you’d have to take a chance on the starts of either Kieran Gibbs and Bacary Sagna to find cheaper coverage of Arsene Wenger’s defence.

Europa League campaigns bolster the appeal of both Michel Vorm and Hugo Lloris, although there is every chance we’ll see rotation should either Swansea and Spurs make progress. Vorm, at £3 million, looks an option behind a back four that should improve on last season’s meager defensive returns. Lloris, priced at £4 million, looks less appealing but has nonetheless tempted over 17% of DT managers so far – more than any other keeper. While the Frenchman offers assured league starts in front of a rotating back four, Brad Friedel could well see domestic cup and Europa League action and the lure of Jan Vertonghen, albeit at £5.5, as an assured goalscoring defender, would seem to count against Lloris.

Plunging down the price brackets, West Ham’s Jaaskelainen again appears to offer strong value, despite a hike to £2 million this time around. The Finn will surely be ever-present behind Sam Allardyce’s defence and a cup run could see him push above the 100-point mark this time around.

Similarly John Ruddy and Villa’s Brad Guzan have some appeal if you’re set on being miserly in this area. Guzan kept just 6 DT clean sheets over the season but was one of the more consistent performers in terms of 7+ ratings, with 20 returned over the campaign. At just £1.5 million, he’s a risk but an assured starter that liberates a lot of cash for elsewhere in our squads.

As for Ruddy, his last campaign was tainted by injury but he will be expected to return a close to ever-present season for Norwich and could easily justify the £2.0 million price tag if Chris Hughton’s side can kick-on this term. The Canaries appear to have bought well over the summer and Ruddy could be on track for double figure clean sheet returns, particularly if they can muster a cup run.

Dream Team is long established as one of the biggest players in the UK Fantasy Football market, attracting a huge audience wowed by the most substantial prizes on offer. Once again, this season, there’s a huge £500,000 prize pool to be divided up. Registration for teams and leagues opens on August 1 but you can select your lineups right now.

Fantasy Football Scout will be running an official Dream Team league which will launch on August 1, in addition to further guides and articles over the season to support the monthly game and to offer advice prior to the Transfer Windows. View our earlier article for more information on the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

1,580 Comments Post a Comment
  1. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Need your thoughts on this!
    Boruc
    Clichy Alcaraz Collins
    Bale Silva Gerrard Cazorla Hazard
    Aspas,Lambert.

    Subs:Gazzaniga,Turner,Chester,Maynard.

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    1. ImTheDude
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ballsy. I'd downgrade Santi to Walcott and do Gerard to Coutinho.

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  2. ADucksBehind
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Interesting little question here. Try to not google it just for a laugh

    Who is older? Jerome or Kevin-Prince Boeteng

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    1. teddy.
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Jerome

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Jerome by about 5 years

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      2. thehodge
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I think Jerome may be older.. not sure though.

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Jerome is what, 24 or 25, Kevin is about 27 or 28?

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      1. ADucksBehind
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Jerome is 24, KPB is 26! Its unbelievable. I always thought Jerome was around 27/28 and KPB was 22/23

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        1. Parm
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Kevin-Prince was around before Jerome, I can remember his spells at Pompey and Spurs.

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  3. r0nh
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    10 years, 9 months ago

    Does anyone here know anything about computers?

    My laptop freezes, then the screen starts to slowly go grey.

    It only lasts a couple of minutes, but it is happening more often 🙁

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Acer? Mine does that every so often

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Dell

        Mine has started to do it quite often 🙁

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    2. Chu Young Ping Pong
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I will get you a new laptop Ronny.

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks Chu, I knew I could count on you 🙂

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    3. dr. Phil
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      After which it countinues as nothing happened or restarts?

      Does it do that when it gets quite hot?

      Are the keys responsive (for instance, does caps lock light go on when u press it even though the screen is dead) ?

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yes.

        Not only, sometimes it does it minutes after I turned it on in the morning.

        Yes, I know because it still types the letters I press, as I can see them when the screen goes back to normal.

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        1. dr. Phil
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          It's not overheating (would restart after screen went blank), It's probably not a graphics driver problem, you'd get error messages that the graphics driver crashed.

          Most likely the cable that connects the monitor to the motherboard has a loose connection. No other way of finding that out then opening the laptop. Should be done by someone who knows what hes doing.

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks for your advice

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        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I found that furiously moving the mouse around prevented it getting any darker when it started to fade. Terrible fix but its works for me 😀

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks for the great technical guidance 😆

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  4. Rasping Drive
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Maths was never one of my strong points, but I thought that a drop in price is triggered by a % fall in total ownership (i.e. if a net 10% of owners sell, the player drops a point). Not sure about the %, but anyways, is this premise correct? If it is, I am not sure I understand why a player that has a high ownership that doesn't perform is more likely to drop in price than a player who has a low ownership that doesn't perform.

    Please excuse me if I am being a bit thick (e.g. I have absolutely no clue what that VORP chart is all about) but would any of you fine folk care to comment?

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    1. Dogba
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It's definitely not a set % of owners.

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      1. Dogba
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I don't remember how it's worked out, it's possible that high ownership affects it, but it's not a static % of the owners that has to sell. In other words high ownership has the potential to cause more rapid drops.

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      2. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I thought it was. And when a player is injured, that percentage doubles. Or maybe I dreamt it (though I am sure Dribbler explained it to me once when I was new to this game and if memory serves it was something along these lines).

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Your right and the threshold increases as the injury flag gets darker.

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    2. Naboo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I have no idea how it works either, but that's a good question. Maybe low ownership players are more often owned by casuals/auto-filled teams that no one checks so won't be transferred out as much?

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    3. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think the formula is a little more complex than that. There is presumably a minimum necessary number of sales so that say you and me don't collude to buy a 4.0 defender, and then take it in turns to sell him so his price drops by 0.1 and then buy him back again so that we can have a 3.9 player...

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    4. roscola
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It's not % based, it's absolute numbers. When the number of sales of a player reaches a threshold (around 30,000 at the start of the season) then a price drop is triggered. Players with extremely low ownership have a lower threshold but the majority of players we deal with have the same threshold.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Pssst thats not true.

        Its a threshold for rises, and a specific price for drops.

        A higher ownership player is more likely to fall as there are likely to be more sensible owners buying him. Nobody buys Cornell expecting him to play, but some may buy Given expecting him to play.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Q: Is the NTO Threshold the same for each player?
          A: The formula is the same but the actual NTO number is different. The way you work out (formula) a player’s NTO Threshold, is to calculate what approximately 10% of their actual ownership number is. Hitting this number causes the price drop.

          Source:fiso CTC

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          1. roscola
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Well, screw me gently and call me Bernard. And I thought I understood it. 🙂 Cheers Gink

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            1. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              No worries, routinely miss quoted all the time by many on here.

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      2. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Right, thanks folks for the input, makes more sense now.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Did you just read Roscola's and upvote it? Because its wrong.

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          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            No mate, the thank you was mainly directed at you for your explanation. I have never upvoted or downvoted anyone, overall I don't believe it's particularly useful, and is open to a lot of abuse.

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  5. Ginkapo FPL
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Sorry;

    Prince George Alexander Louie

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  6. GunsnRoses
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    grav check

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    1. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yesterday I uploaded an image in gravatar. It is yet to be updated here ...
      can anyone tell me what should be done apart from uploading an image in gravatar ?

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        It it G rated?

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        1. GunsnRoses
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          What is G rated ? It's a picture having Arsenal crest.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            You select the rating yourself and they just check it. You might have chosen a higher rating for shits n giggles.

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          2. LOCO ABREU
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            something in gravatar must be G rate

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            1. GunsnRoses
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Yeah it is showing G rated. What should I do now ?

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              1. LOCO ABREU
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                wait a minutes

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              2. Parm
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Did you register with the same e-mail address as you did on here?

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                1. GunsnRoses
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 9 months ago

                  Yeah both are same.
                  It's showing rated G and I registered yesterday. I guess it's about 24 hours. How much time does it take in general ?

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          3. busteddocket
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            X rated:)

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  7. Naboo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    5th MID: Thomas (& 0.5 in the bank) or Koren?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thomas and 0.5 or Campaña(5.0)

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    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Koren

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    3. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thomas

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  8. artem.kz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Please give me your thoughts on my draft team. Last season GW 1 really screwed me, hope it won't happen again.

    Davis (Given)

    Whittaker Turner Ward McNaughton Baker

    Bale Hazard Coutinho Walcott (Colback)

    Lukaku Anelka RVP

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    1. McSauce
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      lukaku worries me that he wont be a consistent starter!!

      Gerrard for me over coutinho purely because of his fantasy consistency over the last few years and is on penos!

      Davies is only a maybe in goal at this stage

      anelka also not sure to start!!

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      you don´t have gk

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Neither of your GK's are first choice (Boruc / Guzan).

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      1. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        ^ Yup, this is the major issue.

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  9. YankeeDoodleDandy
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Test post. Is my team linked? How do I change my avatar?

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    1. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Currently it is going to your profile page on ffs.com.
      And it's same for me .

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      1. YankeeDoodleDandy
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the help.

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    2. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      "Head on over to http://www.gravatar.com and register for an account (make sure you register with the same email as the one you are registered with here). Choose an image, and this will be associated with all of your comments on site. Your gravatar image should appear next to your comments within roughly 24 hours"

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      1. YankeeDoodleDandy
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the info. I will do so now.

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  10. McSauce
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    John terry gonna be a starter under mourinho?

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    1. Naboo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Think I remember hearing a "John Terry is not safe" soundbite from Mourinho at some point.

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      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Coreecto

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    2. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      probably Ivanovic Terry Luiz Cole but who knows

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      1. Dogba
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Luiz and Cole are nailed on IMO. I reckon Azp will see the most gametime on the right and that Iva will be rotated at CB and RB with the rest.

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    3. Dogba
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He'll see some action for sure, but I don't think he'll be nailed on.

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    4. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Anyone else with me in thinking that Cahill is Chelsea's best CB? No? Just me then. Anyway, if Jose Mourinho is as good at assessing talent as I am Cahill will be first choice.

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  11. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Preseason might not prove much, but "Schalke FC is better than Southampton" has been well confirmed here today.

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A chant of "Shut the" followed by "**** up" is now serenading the grounds.

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    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      What was the back line?

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I saw Shaw and Clyne not sure who else

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      2. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Saints team: Kelvin Davis ( c) (Paulo Gazzaniga 64), Calum Chambers (Nathaniel Clyne 64), Dejan Lovren, Jos Hooiveld (José Fonte 46), Luke Shaw (Danny Fox 64), Victor Wanyama (Jack Cork 64), Steven Davis (Morgan Schneiderlin 46), Lloyd Isgrove (Adam Lallana 46), Jason Puncheon, Jay Rodriguez (James Ward-Prowse 64), Rickie Lambert (Emmanuel Mayuka 64). Substitutes: Artur Boruc (GK), Jordan Turnbu

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    3. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      don't read too much into it

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        FT:

        2 - 0

        Huntlaar (remember him?)scored the first goal. Schalke fans seem satisfied with the result, as well as 2 Chelsea fans at the match for some odd reason.

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    4. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      There's no point in worrying about the Southampton defence on this basis:
      Kelvin Davis started - not first choice. Replaced by Gazzaniga - not first choice.
      Calum Chambers played 64 minutes - not even close to first choice.
      Jos Hooiveld played the first half, followed by Jose Fonte - neither first choice.
      Yoshida wasn't even on the pitch.
      And Shaw only played the first hour.

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    5. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      isn't Shalke in Champions League?

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, they are in the pre-group stage I think

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  12. Brookins
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Mannone
    Zabaleta - Ivanovic - Collins
    Mirallas - Bale - Navas - Snodgrass
    Giroud - Carroll (assuming fit) - Sturridge

    Boruc - Turner - Shaw - Koren

    What do you guys think?

    Probably about 3 punts in there. Quite keen on getting Navas in!

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    1. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Too much into the defense IMO.
      And also both Giroud and Carroll are punts so it may not be a great think to do in initial few weeks

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    2. Brookins
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Alternatively I could get rid of Navas, add Coutinho, downgrade ivanovic for a 4.5 and put in aguero

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    3. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Have a look at Navas' stats last year.

      Not many captain options, Bale aside.

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    4. Rabid Dog
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mannone is a nailed on doubt at the min.

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  13. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Just found this.

    "Shinji Kagawa is one of the best players in the world," he [Klopp] told The Guardian, "and he now plays 20 minutes at Manchester United -- on the left wing! My heart breaks. Really, I have tears in my eyes. Central midfield is Shinji's best role. He's an offensive midfielder with one of the best noses for goal I ever saw. But for most Japanese people it means more to play for Man United than Dortmund. We cried for 20 minutes, in each other's arms, when he left."

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    1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      hahahaha! Not sure if serious...

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      1. Pinatta
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        It is

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        1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          😆

          What is wrong with the world.

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    2. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Unfort Rooney will probably stay meaning he won't get that regular ACM action

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    3. thehodge
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He was injured for a lengthy period but I do agree, he should be a regular first team player when fit. This is why I wouldn't be that upset if Rooney left.. an attacking force of
      Valencia Carrick Cesc Zaha
      Kagawa
      RVP
      Would be pretty sweet..

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        You've lost your love for Nani all at once then?

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    4. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Sound like bollox to me. 20 mins crying in each others arms? It'd look a bit wierd after 2 mins!

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  14. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    to find 0.5 to upgrade Thomas to Koren

    a) Yanga-Mbiwa to 4.0 (B. Turner)
    b) Coleman to Alcaraz

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      keep thomas

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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    2. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      it's pointless wasting any more money on the guy who's going to be bench fodder when thomas himself should still be getting games

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    3. Naboo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      don't think it's an upgrade worth ruining the rest of your team for but A don't look too bad anyway so I would go for that

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  15. cheeky_ash
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Guys...

    With 9M to spend on GKs (although I may spend more). Anyone know the best combinations for rotation?

    Ala Liverpool/Everton & Newcastle/Sunderland ?

    Many thanks

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    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Boruc/Mannone

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      1. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      9M leaves you with very few options - there aren't many first team 4.5s.

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      1. cheeky_ash
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I never spend much on GKs as the points for saves for a lesser team GK make up for lack of clean sheets I think...

        It used to be solid defence and GK with 2 or 3 of the holy trinity and your away...now things have changed and CS are less common for the bigger teams

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  16. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    If push comes to shove, whose attack would you rather cover? Only one from

    Man City or Liverpool...?

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Citeh.

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    2. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Sturridge

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Essentially I am toying with Sturridge, Aspas or Negredo with money coming from my midfield to finance it.

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        1. Baines on Toast...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          sturridge by a country mile out of those.

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    3. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      If the season was starting tomorrow I'd say Liverpool, because we can be far more sure about who is starting. Fast forward 3+ weeks and hopefully Pellegrino will have tried out his first choice team in a friendly. I think they play Arsenal on the 10th August, we'll know more then.

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    4. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No surety of starts for anyone in the City attack.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        but NEW, car and HUL look so good. As you say a City attacker may not be sure to start all of those. May as well just get Zabaleta and bank 18pts for those 3 games

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        1. Mr. Greedy
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Unless Richards plays some of those games.

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    5. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      City will score more goals over the course of the year, but they will be spread out over more players. Therefore, Liverpool attack from a fantasy perspective.

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      1. Mr. Greedy
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        That was what happened last season, but maybe this year Negredo will get them all.

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  17. Vpan
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    a) Mignolet+Lambert

    or

    b) Mannone+Sturridge ???

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B

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    2. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      b by miles

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    3. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    4. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B costs more...

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      1. Vpan
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        0.5 but is it worth it?

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  18. ANON.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Jääskeläinen
    Coleman, Collins, Mertesacker
    Bale, Walcott, Coutinho, Snodgrass
    Aguero, Berbatov, Anelka

    Boruc, Turner, Wanyama, Clyne

    Comments please?

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    1. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Like all of it, bar Wanyama, who I'd switch for Koren. Plays too deep.

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      jaask to foster, anelka to jay rodriguez. sell wanyama also.

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      1. ANON.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks!

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    3. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Anelka is a huge punt. He scored 3 goals in 22 appearances in the Chinese Super League last year. Is that someone you want on your team?

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  19. herrwilson
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    So is Chester the best 4.0 def, or are there others to consider? Only looking for someone who is nailed on really

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    1. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Jonathan Parr for Palace - easier opening fixtures?

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    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It's always going to be a bit of a minefield. Ben Turner for Cardiff is by "first choice", because Cardiff had the best defence of the promoted sides and he was playing every game at the end of last season.

      Parr, Crystal Palace, might be good as he's a fullback and got lots of assists, but there's a possibility that he might lose his place to Moxey.

      Delaney is vice captain for CP, so he might be more nailed on.

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      1. herrwilson
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        ty =)

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  20. McSauce
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    A. Bale and snodgrass

    or

    B. Felliani and Santi Cazorla

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    2. ANON.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    3. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A. Life without Bale would be daunting and I think Fellaini is poor value if he plays deeper, as that's where I anticipate Martinez will play him.

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    4. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A. Forget about Fellaini this year mate. DM for sure.

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    5. McSauce
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      thanks guys appreciate the feedback!

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    6. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    7. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A.

      Bale should be the first name on your team sheet.

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  21. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Loco Abreu - are you set on being a wallflower? 😀

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      what?? 🙂

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Will you stay or will you go? I really want to know ... 😉

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          He is probably talking about the LAWR leagues.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            I am. 3 ...

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        2. LOCO ABREU
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          sorry, when you need to know?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Well, soonish, please - I have been working on it since the end of last Season, on and off. 🙂

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  22. .
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Interesting that Mourinho didn't put Kallas up for loan yesterday.

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  23. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi guys - I don't know if this has been discussed much already but are any of the new players just added to fpl worth considering? Dobbie or Campano for instance?

    Thanks!

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    1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      *Campaña* :-/

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Campaña is a great player and i think he will play in the hole. Don't know about Dobbie.

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      1. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Mmmm - thanks. Yes I've heard good things about him too... May downgrade Mirallas to upgrade Thomas to Campaña as my 5th mid...

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  24. Bests Conquests
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Where will Noble (£5.5) typically play for the West Ham this season?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      On the rightish side of midfield, centrally. He is our engine.

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  25. Mr. Greedy
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Suarez at Arsenal, would you sign him? Might need to try to hold onto the wildcard until after his suspension is finished.

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    1. .
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      yessir.

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No. It all depresses me unutterably.

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Do you see him in Arsenal Shirt ? I doubt.
      Our best bet was Higuain but it's over.

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    4. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      absolutely

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    5. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It's hard to say. Would depend on the form of other big hitters - Aguero, Rooney and RVP - when his suspension was finished.

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    6. Mr. Greedy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      In a few weeks the essential strikeforce could be

      RVP, Suarez, Negredo

      Better hope some midfield bargains emerge.

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    7. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Arsenal's transfer record is around £18m. Suarez would cost around £55m.

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Suarez's clause is 40mil, he's allowed to speak to Arsenal if they bid over that. The decision becomes the players to make. Don't think Liverpool can demand 55mil when Arsenal have already triggered the buy-out clause.

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          It's not a buy-out clause. He has no BO clause.

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          1. Kanus hat trick
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Something stinks 😉

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            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Go read the first 3 paragraphs.
              or
              http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23428419

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              1. Gnu
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Or.... Liverpool are suffering from ostriche syndrome!

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              2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                It says the same thing about informing the player that he can hold talks in my link also. If's it's not a buy-out clause, then Suarez's camp and media are reportedly treating it as such.

                It won't be easy to keep him, if he comes to an agreement with Arsenal.

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        2. Kanus hat trick
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          From what i've heard it's not a buy out clause, Suarez merely had to be officially informed of Arsenal's interset due to bid over £40m

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          1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Probably correct, but media is reporting it as such in most places. They have sources and I don't, so I'm not going to question it this time.

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  26. ADucksBehind
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    So completely wiped my team! Will you guys rmt please?

    Foster // Boruc

    Coleman // Jose Enrique // Collins // Debuchy // Chester

    Silva // Coutinho // Bale // Walcott // Snodgrass

    Lambert // Kone // Anelka

    The change I'm thinking of doing is

    Coutinho + Anelka > Sturridge + Brunt

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    1. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Strikers are awful, maybe one of those 3 would be ok

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    2. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Downgrade JE and a mid to bring in a bigger striker. Lamb/Kone/Anelka won't cut the mustard.

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    3. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I wouldn't make that change - I can see Coutinho getting fairly comparable points to Sturridge but Anelka has the potential to get significantly more than Brunt.
      Defence needs work - any place for Mertesacker? Better buys than Debuchy? Newcastle don't fill me with confidence.
      Nice midfield 🙂

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    4. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Dude, what's going on up front? Downgrade 1 player from midfield.

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  27. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    I'm starting to think that 3-5-2 offers the best rotation and best back up options... check dis:

    Boruc (Davis - non-rotation but anything happens to Boruc then he comes in)
    GJohnson + rotating pair from Collins Shaw Chester Dawson (CAR)
    Bale Hazard Coutinho Zaha Walcott
    Aguero + Anelka/Graham - rotating for home matches

    As it stands (befor further transfers) I'm going with this
    8 mainstays, 3 positions rotating - 2 at the back, 1 up front
    Attacking Coverage (yes that dirty word) from MUN, MCY, CHE, ARS, TOT, LIV

    Any thoughts or criticisms?
    Hit me 🙂

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    1. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      3-4-3 all the way, especially at the start of the season until value builds

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      1. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I'm in the 3-4-3 camp.

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    2. The King
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Get Snodgrass instead of Zaha, wait until Zaha's game time becomes clearer.

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    3. cheezymouse
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Like the strategy aspect of your team. Couple of comments:

      1. Will Davis definitely get the nod over Gazzaniga if Boruc gets a knock?
      2. Not a huge fan of the rotating cheap defence BUT from what I see each start of season, there are few clean sheets anyway so I don't think you're losing a whole pile. Its not for me, but you've thought it through.
      3. Zaha isn't guaranteed a start
      4. Aguero... I'd need to see how Pellegrini sets up City but according to one of the FFScout articles, he did a lot of rotation at Malaga... if he starts all the games he's a great shout.

      Well thought out.

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  28. Ings on the up
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this midfield please

    Bale, Walcott, Snodgrass, Brady, Thomas

    With RVP upfront there's 0 in the bank.

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    1. Sweetpea
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Brady/Thomas doesn't look goo, maybe one and upgrade one by downgrading RVP

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      1. Sweetpea
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        *maybe upgrade one

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      2. Ings on the up
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Thanks for the reply, RVP is staying though.

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    2. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not good. No one finishes in the top 50k with two mids

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      1. YankeeDoodleDandy
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        *Mids

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  29. McSauce
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ok i have made the decision RVP BALE HAZARD 100% going into my team! now time to build around them!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      It is more a matter of sticking to what's left. 😉

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    2. Kanus hat trick
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Um...what if Bale leaves the PL. You'd keep a £12m player in to warm the bench 🙂

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      1. McSauce
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        haha well he will go and i will be half delighted from a fantasy point of view! but upset if there is no bale in the FPL next year!

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