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The Burning Question – Would Bale’s Departure Make Van Persie Essential?

Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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4,426 Comments Post a Comment
  1. marni7
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi 😉

    Lukaku or soldado. Or shall I have Lukaku and bring soldado 2nd week? Thanks

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ideally you'd want Soldado for the Palace game, but I guess you know that.

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  2. @Bryan
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Final draft, bar injuries or further news, i'm happy enough out. Now I can enjoy the bloody weekend in peace! 😀

    Mig's, Lewis

    Collins, Toure, Turner, Brayford, Turner (Ben)

    Hazard, Walcott, Lampard, Ramirez, Williams

    RVP, Benteke, Lukaku

    Doubled down on Cardiff, I have heard conflicting reports on who will start there. Hopefully both! I fancy them more then Crystal "glass" palace or hull!

    Have a loose plan for my DGW players.

    Anything i'm missing?

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A defence. Points will be almost non-existent from that backline...

      But the rest of your team looks great 🙂

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      1. @Bryan
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        Mig's and Toure better do the business at the back! Then two 4.5's, whoever has decent fixtures. And the Cardiff lads if all else fails. Should do okay.

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      2. Tiki-Taka
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        Disagree on the defence. Of course it's not tip-top but it's not going to be given the mids/attack and we all know where the points are at.

        2 Liverpool and Wham/Norwich are probably the best 2 cheap defences

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    2. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Very similar to mine except I will have Soldado over Lukaku week 2

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      1. @Bryan
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Soldado or Negredo after the DGW sometime is part of my loose plan in the 1st 3 gw's. Never works out that way, but one can hope!

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  3. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this team

    Mannone

    Coleman Ivan Collins

    Hazard Michu Coutinho Walcott

    Benteke Sturridge Lambert

    Thomas Boruc Turner Chester

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    1. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      3 RMTs in less than an hour...

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        tut tut

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      2. MountainBeach
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Instead of being dick you could have actually helped..pathetic

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        1. Mílanista
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          And say what? The players are all very common on here so in theory they should mostly be sound picks.

          Pathetic would be what you just did, changing your name. No doubt to continue posting RMTs and not be noticed as a spammer.

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          1. The Shadow
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Anyone can just click to see his comment history and know right away whether he actually participates or just constantly asks for help from others. Changing names won't change that.

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              1. The Shadow
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                The prosecution rests.

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          2. Tiki-Taka
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            BOOM ROASTED

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          3. Elniñorules
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            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Detective Milanista reporting to duty 😉

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            1. Mílanista
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              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Maybe we should set up 'The Steady' award for most serial RMTers.

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              1. Elniñorules
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                • 12 Years
                10 years, 9 months ago

                Hahaha

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                1. Mílanista
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                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 9 months ago

                  Get your nominations in!

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                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 9 months ago

                    Probably not a great idea.

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                    1. Elniñorules
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                      • 12 Years
                      10 years, 9 months ago

                      Only the best? 😉

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                      1. TorresMagic™
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                        • 14 Years
                        10 years, 9 months ago

                        Even I don't spam anymore. It's against the T&C's 😉

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                    2. Mílanista
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                      • 12 Years
                      10 years, 9 months ago

                      Don't worry, I can't be bothered with the aggro.

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          4. FFCBERB
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Here here. RMT should happen once or twice before the season (theoretically), not 3 times each hour.

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        2. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          And what is your contribution exactly? You give help, you get help.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Nice team.

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      1. The Shadow
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        +1

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  4. MountainBeach
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Is Boateng from Fulham nailed on?

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  5. GoIrish
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Like many of you, I had Collins in the starting lineup. With his injury, I'm looking for another defender to start for week 1. What's everyone's opinion on best defender out there for 5 mil or less? Zabaleta and Mertesacker are the other starting defenders on my team. Right now I have Rat slotted in but just looking for advice. Thanks!

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    1. GoIrish
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Whittaker and baker are my backups

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      1. LOCO ABREU
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        change your backups,they won't play, get chester and brayford for example

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  6. Coach Taylor
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Yanga-Mbiwa or S.Taylor?

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      mbiwa

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  7. MK Don
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How many have a team without RVP and Bale then ?
    I had RVP almost as default, but just tried a team without him...and it is pretty impressive. Is RVP as essential as we all thought ?

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    1. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      According to the article above, the answer is "no".

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    2. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not essential but I am weakening my team to get him week 2

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    3. Steve_2011
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Havent had any from the start, if Bale looked like staying and actually being interested then i am pretty sure Walcott/Saldado will at least score 200 each this season and are captain material for me

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  8. BwG
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Which do you prefer...

    A
    Mignolet | 4.0
    Clichy | kosc | clyne | 4.0 | 4.0

    B
    Mignolet | 4.0
    Reid or Coleman | kosc | turner | clyne | 4.0

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  9. LOCO ABREU
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    so who is going with ravel morrisson'

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    1. BwG
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm still holding strong with him ... Think he has the potential to score or assist from the bench. Could catch a price rise off him. All others at 4.5 seem to be 2 pts game in game out.

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  10. parkerdip
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    (A)
    Mignolet / Boruc
    Mertesacker / Turner / Jagielka / Zabaleta / Clyne
    Walcott / Hazard / Snodgrass / Thomas / Coutinho
    Lukaku / Soldado / Lambert

    OR

    Mignolet / Boruc
    Mertesacker / Turner / Jagielka / Zabaleta / Clyne
    Paulinho / Hazard / Snodgrass / Thomas / Coutinho
    Lukaku / Van Persie / Anelka

    One's with RVP one without. I'm not sure but if you don't get RVP then you have plenty of cash to spend elsewhere on improving other areas and its hard to judge because some players have potential to be good enough to go without

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    1. fealdabeirne
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      (A)

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    2. Jack Frost
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      DGW are most often very important... need three not two players. I can see how 4 is overkill. Clyne is good, but doubtful. All the rest are sound picks. (although I don't know Thomas... CP) Good luck.

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  11. franco343
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    anyone fancy a crack at the best premier league fantasy football team ever.

    Rules

    Has to have played in the premier league
    Every player rated in thier prime
    Subs should be a bit outside the obvious
    No more than 3 players per Team (most players are easy to assign a team, Anelka/ Sol Cambell may be a problem)
    Prices do not matter.
    Happy hunting

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    1. DropPointsNotBombs
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Defence is hard

      Attack would be:

      Ronaldo Lampard Gerrard Giggs

      Shearer Henry Bergkamp

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      1. franco343
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        forgot about giggs , hmmm

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    2. franco343
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      quick eg

      Cech

      Baines Ferdinand Adams

      Ronaldo Lampard Gerrard Cantona

      Henry Shearer RVP

      Southall KIng Stauton Pederson Le tissier

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    3. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Seaman
      Neville, Adams, Terry, Cole.
      Ronaldo, Gerrard, Lampard, Giggs
      Henry, Shearer.

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      1. Parm
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Oh....

        Seamen
        Irwin, Terry, Adams.
        Lampard, Gerrard, Ronaldo, Giggs.
        Henry, Shearer, Drogba.

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        1. franco343
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          like it

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  12. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Soldado to start against Palace?

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      For sure

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    2. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yes

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  13. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    2 questions....

    1) Terry or Cahill.

    2) Scoutcast tomorrow?

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Terry

      No 🙁

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    2. Demí
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      JT

      Yes

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    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Terry

      Ask Siri

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  14. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Comment your team and i'll rate it.

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    1. The Light Knight
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Cech Boruc
      GJ Mert Komp Vert Baines
      Ramires Oscar Gia Thomas Brady
      Giroud Soldado JRod

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      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        6

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      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        That midfield 😆

        Who is Gia?

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        1. LOCO ABREU
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          giacherini i think

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      3. Declan-
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I have spent 31.5 on Goalkeepers and defenders. You have......43.5 🙂

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      4. Jack Frost
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Wow, what a defense, most would have two 4.0/4.5 guys. Are you going to play five Defenders, unusual. ? Might force an early WC, but to each his own.

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    2. The Shadow
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Reply fail but it is great advice for RMTers.

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    3. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mine is a closely guarded secret! 🙂 ...that's how ashamed I am of it

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Those are the ones we want to see! 🙂

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        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          😆

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    4. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mignolet, Davis.
      Cahill, Toure, Jenkinson, Brayford, Chester
      Hazard, Walcott, Mirallas, Snodgrass, Williams.
      Van Persie, Lukaku, Dzeko.

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      1. HINS
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Seems you cracked the RvP code. Good job.

        With some differentials tho, such as Jenkinson.

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        1. Parm
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Sagna's crocked.

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    5. antpro26
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Foster (Boruc)

      Terry Toure M.Turner (Brayford, Chester)

      Walcott Hazard Mirallas Kim (Ravel)

      RVP Lukaku Benteke

      After GW1 Terry -> 4.5m and Lukaku -> Soldado for -4
      After GW2 Benteke -> Sturridge

      Any thoughts or opinions would be much appreciated!

      Thanks, Anthony.

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      1. fealdabeirne
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I like it just watch out for price fluctuations when planning transfers

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    6. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Foster Boruc
      Reid Coleman Toure Amorbieta Turner
      Walcott Hazard Mirallas Coutinho Kim
      Soldado Lukaku Lambert

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    7. OptimusBlack
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Adrián (Bourc)

      Coleman /Terry / Toure / Chester / Brayford

      Mirallas / Hazard / Walcott /Coutinho / Kim

      Soldado / Lukaku / Benteke

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      1. OptimusBlack
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Adrian or Mannone

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    8. Tactical Nous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mignolet (Boruc)
      Ivanovic Zabaleta M.Turner (Chester) (Brayford)
      Hazard Coutinho Walcott Mirallas (R.Morrison)
      Lukaku Benteke Dzeko

      with view to transfer Ivanovic > Koscielney and 1.0 to sort out strikers. the constant tinkering starting to confuse me even more!

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    9. fealdabeirne
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mannone, (Krul)
      Coleman, Collins, Ivanovic, (Shaw, Chester)
      Walcott, Mirallas, Hazard(C), Coutinio, Nolan,
      Soldado, Sturridge,(Gayle)

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  15. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    How will Chelsea's midfield lineup against Hull?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lottery.

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    2. GuyIncognito
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ramires - ???
      Hazard - ??? - ???

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  16. Touré De Force
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Benteke can't score against the top 5.

    Bla bla bla.

    Check out no.5 here.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COkx9432wwY

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool and Chelsea.

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      1. Touré De Force
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Top 5 I said 😉

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Pretty useless against the top 5 then.

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    2. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Then he got sent off 🙂

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  17. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Wait, FFS have Van Ginkel in their predicted Chelsea lineup against Hull? In place of Lampard

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      They will likely be updated soon.

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  18. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Thoughts on this, lads?

    Jussi-Boruc
    Ivanovic-Yoshida-Lowton-Coleman-Brayford
    Tonev-Kim-Ramires-Snodgrass-Hazard
    RVP-Soldado-Benteke

    C: Hazard, v: Benteke
    Bench: Boruc/Kim/Yoshida/Brayford.

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    1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thinking of maybe doing Ramires>Downing, but then have 0.5 left.

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      1. Tactical Nous
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        lowton > 4.0 then ramires to mirallas?

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  19. aehii
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    SORRY this is boring, but.

    Lampard+Lambert

    or

    Mirallas+Lukaku

    !!

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    1. FPL Touches
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      The English

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  20. FPL Touches
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ideal non-RVP frontline? I'm thinking Soldado, Sturridge, Benteke 🙂

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    1. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      That's exactly it.

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I can have those 3 if I don't bother with RVP....and Lampard instead of Snodgrass
        It just looks nicer.

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      soldado lukaku benteke

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    3. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      lukaku for benteke

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    4. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'd probably have Giroud in there myself

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Yep, and that would be a transfer easy to make if required, and I wouldn't be sweating about selling the heart and soul of my team 🙂

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        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Good point

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    5. aehii
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yep. Though I'm still not wild about Benteke. I think Sturridge-Dzeko-Lambert isn't bad, unless you think Dzeko will be ousted by Negredo/Aguero very soon..I made a lot of templates but most feature just two strikers, I quite like settling on just Sturridge-Bony if Bale stays. A lot of people are putting faith in Spurs' ability to give Soldado chances. I don't think it'll be that easy. He did score a penalty, but that is a rare thing for spurs..He'll make intelligent runs and Paulinho will find him..just not sure.

      I did make a template with RVP-Sturridge-Soldado-Walcott-Coutinho-Hazard-Morrison-Thomas that I was quite surprised by..there's nothing else in there, but as a strong 6 (including Enrique in defence) that's not bad.

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  21. onionbarje
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Just a heads up both Kagawa and Yoshida both played in Japan earlier today. So they may not be nailed on.

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thanks Onion. But I think Yosi is the last Soton def I can turn to! He'd better turn out 🙁

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      1. onionbarje
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Wait till Friday Press conferences might hear more

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        1. Reedy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah

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  22. ccc
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Did Lampard start against Scotland? If so, I may go with him as a differential.

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    1. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      no

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      1. ccc
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        ok thanks

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    2. OptimusBlack
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      He Played sec HALF AND WAS VERY GOOD

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  23. Tiki-Taka
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Determined to have a 4.5 mid for the 5th slot as opposed to a 5mil, as much as this may bite me.

    Is Thomas injured or will he be okay come GW1? Tbh I wouldn't need him till GW3 anyway.

    Does anyone know anything about Grandin from Crystal Palace who Holloway signed, he had him at Blackpool and I'm wondering if anyone knows whether he's nailed?

    Finally Livermore who has signed on loan at Hull, I'm assuming he's gone to play week in week out, but isn't he quite a deep mid?

    Cheers

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    1. Tactical Nous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      What about Ravel Morrison?

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  24. HASHTAG
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Kim & Nolan or Ravel & Mirralas?

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    1. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      second

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    2. 1NAM
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Former.

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    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I've gone for the 2nd pair

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    4. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      2nd

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    5. HASHTAG
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      cheers guys thinking second too

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  25. Touré De Force
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    So has the Lambert bandwagon got going yet?

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    1. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      just about to ask that, i had before the England game, simply because everyone had J-Rod i thought he would be a differential. Probably not any more

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    2. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      No, and frankly I'm pretty confused why.

      He's one of the four players that have survived my constant weeks of tinkering.

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      1. PrestigeWorldwide
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        very good fit for RVP teams

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      2. onionbarje
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Maybe because he is 31, or that he was playing for England so it doesn't count, or they are still on Dzeko and other. Still this is good he becomes a differential

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        1. onionbarje
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          ok take what i said back he is owned by 17% of people, Dzeko is owned by 11%

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        2. DietCoke
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Lambert is a way better pick than Dzeko.

          He's got great fixtures, is nailed on, and had a great performance last year.

          And RVP is 31 now, right? Yet people are decimating their teams left and right to squeeze him in.

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          1. Touré De Force
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            You make a good point

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    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yupp along with Dozy Altidore 😉

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I have him in.
      At the end of the day, he costs 7.5 and was the 3rd top scoring forward last year.. I can live with him not doing as well for that price

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    5. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Its been building momentum for a few days, speeding up now.

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  26. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone care to pick Swansea's starting attack?

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    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Bony & Michu.

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      hernandez michu dyer/routledge
      bonny
      ?

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    3. DropPointsNotBombs
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Routledge, Britton, Shelvey, Hernandez

      Michu

      Bony

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    1. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Well it's better than 'you've been framed' 🙂

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  27. DropPointsNotBombs
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Actually quite annoying that Bale is likely off. Literally everyone here has a midfield of:

    Hazard, Coutinho, Mirallas, Walcott

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    1. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Even when Bale was in my team, it was Hazard, Walcott, Bale, Mirallas.

      It's just a really solid midfield. Can't help it.

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    2. onionbarje
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Silva instead of Coutinho

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    3. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      don't worry, that'll change

      and I don't have that mf as I'll get lamps or oscar instead of coutinho

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    4. Baby Cuties
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      has there not been much love for HBA?

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  28. tw
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    ENR - what do you think, Lamps or Oscar?

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Short-term - Lamps
      Long-term - Oscar

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        i'll probably keep one chelsea mid long term but that'll probably end up being Hazard.

        so Lamps til gw 3? why's that?

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Lamps is a punt no doubt. Looked really sharp in pre-season and bound to get a penalty!

          Oscar should be Jose's first choice CAM, bargain at 8.0. Expect more consistent returns.

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          1. Reedy
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            8.5 😉

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Whoops, pardon my ignorance fellow hot chick

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      2. The Shadow
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Definitely Oscar baby!

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          All aboard the Baaaaaabyyyyyyy bandwagon

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            *pram, rather

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    2. HVT
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Oscar -but it wouldn't surprise me if they got same mins Tw.

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Howdi Bossman, I'll give you a bell tomorrow, cool?

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      2. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        why Oscar? just cuz of playing time?

        Cheers mate! hope all is well

        sorry if i've already asked you this but do you have any interest in joining our draft league?

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        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Young / fresh and creative ,
          Lamps IMO past his best - gotta move with the times , lamps feels so 2008 for me 😉

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    3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry i missed your post earlier on. Yes, feel free to give me spot to the next worthy applicant

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    4. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Think ENR is spot on there. Either could do very well for the double actually, but I sense this is Oscar's breakthrough year.

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    5. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      The one that scores a shit ton of goals every season.

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  29. LOCO ABREU
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    i think i like this rvp team, please check guys:
    boruc/davies
    mert/toure/murner/chester/brayford
    wally/hazard/snoddy/ravel/mirallas
    rvp/lukaku/sturridge

    only problem is 2dgw players. after gw1, lukaku>lambo/jayrod

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    1. Tactical Nous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      very decent

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