The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Saturday

A pulsating Merseyside derby gives us plenty to mull over as both sides’ attacks rack up the points. Romelu Lukaku’s return to form, Philippe Coutinho’s first strike of the season and a potential toe injury for Leighton Baines come under analysis this evening:

The Game Changer

Sold on by over 100,000 Fantasy Premier League managers leading up to today’s derby clash, Romelu Lukaku delivered a stinging blow to those who had lost faith by bullying his way to a brace.

With just a single goal in his last four matches, patience with the Belgian was undeniably paper thin in a landscape that has seen the heavy-hitting forwards deliver consistently. It was ironic, then, that Lukaku should overshadow Luis Suarez, despite the Uruguayan again offering his own growing army of owners a goal and an assist.

The day belonged to Lukaku, however, who reaffirmed his status as a value proposition for our forward lines with a second double figure haul of the campaign. A record of seven goals in eight league appearances for the Toffees speaks for itself and, on a day that also saw Olivier Giroud break his recent drought, it underlined the merits of holding firm, even when form suggests that looking elsewhere should be a priority.

The Underused

Phillipe Coutinho’s first goal of the season arrived in a match where his influence was overshadowed by the likes of Suarez and Lukaku – this was a far more muted performance than his showing in the 4-0 win over Fulham in Gameweek 11.

However, it’s returns that count and with Coutinho getting off the mark for the campaign, there will now be those considering whether the classy Brazilian prospect can find a level of consistency that could possibly warrant the 8.5 FPL outlay. Currently he claims just 5% ownership.

Clearly Suarez is the most vital option in the Liverpool attack but, with fixtures in their favour and Daniel Sturridge owners switching out in their thousands, there could yet be a place for Coutinho in our seasons, with the Brazilian’s strike no doubt catching the eye of those Fantasy managers looking to double up on Rodgers’ flourishing attack.

Liverpool have now scored 19 league goals in their last seven outings; Coutinho’s presence can surely only help maintain that kind of form.

The Selection Poser

With Roberto Martinez announcing post-match that Leighton Baines will undergo an x-ray on a toe injury, the left-back’s Fantasy owners will be anxiously waiting on results, whilst perhaps pondering whether the time has come to shift out the Toffees man.

Should there be doubt over his availability for the Gameweek 13 Goodison clash with Stoke, Baines will then be set for an away double header at United and Arsenal – it seems certain that he will have to turn to attacking points to justify his 7.7 value in those two matches.

His price tag is undeniably a factor. Despite claiming over 27% ownership in the FPL, Baines sits at just 0.2 above his initial FPL valuation and therefore a trade out would not lead to a significant loss of funds, whilst offering a sure route back once Everton’s fixtures ease.

The news on Baines’ toe could have a significant impact on next week’s transfer trends.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. PussyGalore
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    Point check?

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    1. Venom Snake
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      45(-4) with rooney(c), Nasri, Ridgewell and b turner left

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  2. Acquafresca
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    Manchester United handed Van Persie & Vidic blows

    Any truth to this?

    http://www.goal.com/en/news/596/exclusive/2013/11/23/4428371/manchester-united-handed-van-persie-vidic-blows

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    1. Acquafresca
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      "The former Arsenal striker was absent from United’s Carrington training complex on Saturday and did not travel with the rest of his team-mates who flew to the Welsh capital on Saturday evening."

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    2. Venom Snake
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      Was posted on here earlier but many seem to think it is an unreliable source, I personally don't know too much about it myself so I won't comment.

      Wouldn't mind if RVP was out though lol

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    3. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      We will know soon enough

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  3. Venom Snake
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    Current defence line of:
    Chico - Ridgewell - B. Turner - Reid - Chester

    All have bad fixtures, 2 are injured.
    Would I be better off making a transfer (likely to be Reid to Koscielny), or saving my FT and reevaluate my defence next week.

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    1. Phoenix Wright
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      Wait till the CL games are over and reassess

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      1. Venom Snake
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        Assuming CL wasn't on and all players a fit for the weekend. Which option would you find is best?

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  4. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Thinking of potentially saving the FT this week, too.

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    1. Acquafresca
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      Same. But I always find excuses to spend it.

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
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      Lots of nice fixtures coming up. As things stand, i might bench Rooney next week.

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  5. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    RVP(C) injured 🙁

    http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/352318/KO-fear-for-Man-Utd-hitman-Robin-Van-Persie

    How much fkn rest does this guy need seriously. Two weeks + a sunday game

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    RVP didnt travel with the squad.

    Well that my GW fkd. Just as i was making a comeback this bullshit happens.

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    1. Venom Snake
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      Vc?

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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        Aguero at least :S

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    2. Get up ya bum
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      You have to go away to comeback

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      1. Christina.
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        If you love something set it free. If it comes back to you it's yours. If it doesn't, it never was.

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          Deep 🙂

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  7. Zombie
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    Watching Silence of the lambs..Hopkins gives me creeps every time. The best villain character...ever ??

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    1. Venom Snake
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      I loved Heath ledger as the joker in batman

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      1. Zombie
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        Yup, he indeed was great but somehow I regard Mark Hamill as the best joker....ooohhh that notorious laugh

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    2. Just A Hat
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      Jon Irenicus wins that award

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      1. Woy of the Wovers
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        Way off topic.

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        1. Just A Hat
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          haha why? He was a well cool villain

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      2. Zombie
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        Alma wade in F.E.A.R. for me 🙁

        She was damn creepy

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        1. Just A Hat
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          the worst part was when you descended a letter and as you went down she randomly appeared at the top for a second, freaked me right out

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          1. Zombie
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            Bang on

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    3. Get up ya bum
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      He's brilliant ay. Can't beat Javier Bardem for best villain though

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      1. Christina.
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        Best villain?

        FORCA

        😎

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        1. Zombie
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          Forca is way beyond nominations

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    4. EmreCan Hustle
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      Christophe Waltz in Inglourious Basterds.

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  8. GTS
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    who's watching the Pacquiao-Rios match?

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    1. Ghostface
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      Me. Rios getting a right hiding.

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      1. GTS
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        yea. Pacquiao looks good again.

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          boxing needs Manny. Legend

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          1. GTS
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            You watching Champ?
            Everyone here is on their feet every time he plays!
            and looks like a hero's welcome parade again when he comes back.
            🙂

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            1. Get up ya bum
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              Yeah mate never miss a fight of his. Been in love with him since his first war with Marquez (another one of my all time faves)
              Didn't realize you were filo. Yeah my friends tell me he is a demi god over there

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              1. GTS
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Well great win for Pacquiao today!
                Well that's he's great rival imo.. A national holiday again when he comes back and as of the moment parties on the streets!
                BTW, where you from?
                Yep that explains my grav for the support of the typhoon victims...

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                1. Get up ya bum
                  • 14 Years
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                  Dominated!
                  I'm from Sydney. Can't really make out your grav properly what is it? That typhoon was full on 🙁 Very sad. You were out of it's path I hope?

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                  1. GTS
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                    We want mayweather next!:D
                    the map of the philippines.. it's kinda circling around fb..
                    Yep I'm from Manila so there's no real big damage so inkind i've just done some repacking of the donations to at least help..

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                    1. Get up ya bum
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                      He'll never take the fight. He's a risk vs reward strategist and there's plenty of profitable safe options for him.

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                      1. GTS
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                        I would like to see a part VI of marquez.
                        🙂

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                  2. GTS
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                    I think this win also brings joy & hope to the people who was hit by the typhoon..

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                    1. Get up ya bum
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                      True that

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  9. Venom Snake
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    Both Barkley and ravel on 4 yc, if they both get their 5th this week I'm quitting.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
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      Or just bench them. Less dramatic.

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      1. Venom Snake
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        Fpl needs drama

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
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          Just follow FFS during match day. Every post is a drama.

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  10. Les Bleus
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    This is definitely way off topic, but does anyone know of good internship sites (in N. America) that are useful? I feel like most of which I use to apply for internships are useless in that the companies never reply. Lol. Any help would be greater appreciated. I'm a computer science major in my last year looking for a 6 month internship just a small FYI. Thank you

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  11. Arsenal USA FC
    • 11 Years
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    What should I do with my backline? 3.0 1FT

    Vorm -- Boruc

    Williams Terry Clyne Rat Chester

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    1. Venom Snake
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      What's rest of team

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      1. Arsenal USA FC
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        Hazard Ramsey Sessegnon Ravel -- Arnautovic

        Suarez Aguero Benteke

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      2. Zombie
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        Chester -> Vlaar if the budget allows?

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  12. Christina.
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    Hmmm...what a kak gameweek.

    Both no 1 and 2 in my ML increased their lead. No 2 had Giroud(c)! wtf?

    Serves me right for laughing at his team prior to kick off.

    🙁

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    1. Zombie
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      Never laugh at your rivals' teams BEFORE - most unused golden rule here. Instead, you do it after the fixtures are over. If you can drop an occasional "I told you so", you will be golden

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  13. SuperOsçarBaby
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    Who will win this H2H?

    Me - Amalfitano, Benteke(c), Rooney
    Aqua - Burner, Aguero + 16

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
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      I think you may pull through

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    2. Pinoche
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      Aqua

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      I have tekkers and roopig so I hope you.

      I think Aqua may have you though

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
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        Rooney to destroy his Burner

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  14. Arsenal USA FC
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    Hazard Ramsey Sessegnon Ravel -- Arnautovic

    Suarez Benteke Aguero

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  15. Flaggertorn
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    58(-4) with rooney and olsson left..hope rooney give a good performance againts cardiff..

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  16. Christina.
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    *starts chain saw to mow down Ozil....

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    1. Arsenal USA FC
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      Patience

      Who's going in for him?

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      1. Christina.
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        I dunno. Anybody will do. First Ramsey killed me @ 3 mill less, now Oscar/Hazard.

        😕

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        1. Get up ya bum
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          10 years, 5 months ago

          You will regret it. A haul or 2 in the next 3 matches for ol crazy eyes 😉
          I like that everyone is getting the shits and selling him just after I buy him. I got him for 4 games and I'm only 1 game in. Haven't had time to get pissed off with him yet

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          1. Christina.
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            I can do Ramsey/Ozil ->Walcott/Haz for free....

            Would mean no Rooney...

            😕

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            1. Zombie
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              You better not kick out Rooney

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  17. Christina.
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    So rumors Rvp didn't travel. Moyes to give Rooney a break over next two months.

    Drama.

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    1. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Moyes is given homework by Fergie..

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  18. MiguelAngel
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    Vorm to Szceczny?

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    1. sukrut23
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      who is your second keeper??

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  19. The Finnisher
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    Anyone else sell Oscar and Lukaku this week?

    Oh yeah 😎

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    1. Christina.
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      Oh shite!

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    2. Pinoche
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      My friend sold Lukaku, Giroud, Oscar, 2 stoke defenders on his WC lol

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    3. Venom Snake
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      I sold lukaku because of his poor stats, stuck firmly with Oscar though

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      1. The Finnisher
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        His stats were poor too though 😕

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        1. Tabone
          • 10 Years
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          Its not really all about stats though. He gets into the right positions! But dw anyway I did the exact same two moves so im pretty upset about that!

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    4. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I sold Lukaku for Bony for a 4 pt hit!!

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    5. Tabone
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      Yep same here! Sold oscar to haz and lukaku to rooney

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      1. The Finnisher
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        At least you got Hazard.

        What's funny is as I did my post-update team set up Lukaku was my captain vs Liverpool, but his performance vs Palace convinced me to get Rooney 😆

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        1. Tabone
          • 10 Years
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          Well hope isnt lost I suppose. Maybe rooney gets 2 goals and maybe an assist to make up for that -4? Unlikely but could happrn!

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  20. FantasyNik123
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Just a quick question...

    For all of my friends abroad on FFS, I think we would all like to know what the winter weather will be like in England and Wales. Is there a possible snow chance this winter in parts? I need my double GW's to put me past the noobs!

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    1. Just A Hat
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      There is going be a new article out in December called "The Weather Report" where they report the weather over the next few weeks and then Granville analyses potential games to be called off with incredible inaccuracy

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      1. FantasyNik123
        • 10 Years
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        Cool. Thanks! 🙂

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      2. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
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        Really?

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    2. MrFlibbles
      • 12 Years
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      Winter is coming.

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  21. chicrah
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
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    So my cup match is down to the following:

    Me: +6 points
    Opponent: Januzaj and Yaya

    Who will win?

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    1. Christina.
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      She.

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    2. Ghostface
      • 11 Years
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      I'll say you, just...

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    3. BenDavies
      • 11 Years
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      You could sneak in. Can't see Januzaj returning/even starting and Yaya, well, you just have to hope there, he could or he could blank, have hope!

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    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 12 Years
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      oppenent

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    5. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      2-2... wish me luck..

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  22. sukrut23
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    Rafa to Johnson and Hernandez to Nolan/Morrison.. sounds good??

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    1. Venom Snake
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      No

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  23. SuperOsçarBaby
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    anyone know why did giroud take the penalty when arteta is playing?

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    1. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Arteta was already subbed.

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    2. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      Ozil assist it was right ?

      How can FPL not seen that

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      1. chicrah
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        For the pen? Mert was fouled.

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        1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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          Ohh.... i thought Ozil 🙁

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    3. Tabone
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      And so was ozil, who I rekon might of gone before giroud also

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    4. Venom Snake
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      Arteta got injured, ozil subbed off, giroud third in line

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
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        lucky giroud

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        1. Venom Snake
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          I kept the faith 😉

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  24. Tabone
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    Pretty interesting H2H I got this week. The guy is 20 points up with only walker to play and I have aguero(c) and sess to play.. an assist from sess and a goal and assist from aguero should do it right?

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    1. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Aguero (c) should do it!

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    2. Venom Snake
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      Uh oh. Your done!

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    3. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
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      You are safe 🙂

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    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      you have two good players to come, however I would prefer the points in the bank

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    5. Tabone
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      Oh my mistake.. I have rooney to play also lol.. im happy now 🙂

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      1. Venom Snake
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        Changes everything, now your favourite

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  25. Cak Juris
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Who will win based on your intuition:

    A. Myhill, Burner, Vlaar, Januzaj, Aguero (C)
    B. Walker, Aguero + 17

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    1. EmreCan Hustle
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      B

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  26. The Finnisher
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    Thoughts on Moyes' comments about Rooney?

    If he blanked today I can see people selling him on here with Spurs (a) coming up 😕

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
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      Hmm, yeah it is a bit concerning. I'd seriously consider it depending on how United (not just Rooney) perform.

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    2. Venom Snake
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      What comment would that be, I just brought the bald one in

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      1. The Finnisher
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        See Scout tweets

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    3. Zombie
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      What did he say again?

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      1. rohan
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        Check Scout tweets.

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    4. Get up ya bum
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      People away over-think this rest stuff imo. Rooney's a machine and has always been best when he plays constantly. Players in the top teams are always likely to sit out a match over the christmas period. Moyesbis probably just readying his fragile ego for when his time comes 🙂

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
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        It will come though. It wouldn't surprise me to see him miss up to two games during the xmas period.

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      2. Zombie
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        As the season has been, many 'casuals' will sell Rooney for Luka/ Remy given Rooney blank/ rest. and to our dismay, he will blank in next fixtures and the people who just chased the last week's points will be laughing at us

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    5. rohan
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      If Rooney does blank this week, I'm gonna take a punt on Sturridge.

      Not quite sure if he'd be a punt though.

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  27. SuperOsçarBaby
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    what happen to bony punt 😆
    i think brunt is better punt than him

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    1. chicrah
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      Guilty..

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    2. Zombie
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      Brunt punt...it even sounds better, literally 😉

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    3. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
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      Brunt? Sess!!!

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  28. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
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    Rooney will not be benched today....

    The rest will come over Christmas period.

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
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      Not with RVP out he won't

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
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        RVP is out for Christmas? or he will not be benched today?

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
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          Sorry, I got confused. Rooney will be rested over xmas, RVP 'should' be fine after the Cardiff game.

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      2. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
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        But yeah, over xmas he is likely to get a rest

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  29. EmreCan Hustle
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Team atm.

    Mignolet
    Nastasic Shawcross Williams
    Ozil Ramsey Amalfitano Januzaj
    Aguero Rooney Suarez %2m.

    Thinking;
    Ozil+Williams > Walcott+McCauley

    Good transfers?

    Thanks.

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  30. rohan
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    Frank Lampard needs 7 goals to overtake Henry as the Priemer League's third highest goal scorer.

    #legend

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      that is actually truly amasing

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      1. rohan
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Innit 😀

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