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Dugout Discussion December 21

The Dugout Discussion – Saturday

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As Luis Suarez continues to make football look easy, rendering Fantasy football a simple game in the process, we tot up another ridiculous points haul whilst turning attention to the day’s three o’clock kick-offs.

Six matches follow shortly, including Man United’s attempt to avoid the unthinkable – three consecutive home league defeats. They face shot-shy West Ham at Old Trafford, while the not so shot-shy City take a trip to take on Fulham at the Cottage, without the goal power of Sergio Aguero.

Stoke and Sunderland host Villa and Norwich respectively, while Palace look to continue their recent revival with a Selhurst Park clash with Newcastle. Managerless West Brom round things off as they take on Hull City at the Hawthorns.

Look to our Twitter feed for all the teamsheet news from these encounters, while our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains ajar for those partial to some real-time reaction.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Scottys Army
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    @ Mr Da

    Whats your overall rank ?

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He entered someone else's team (who was better than him) into the cup. Whatever he told you would be b*llox

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        bad week to captain suarez this week

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      2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        btw I was one of the people saying rooney was not out. Get your facts right please.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      lower hundred thousands

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      1. ★FC Borecelona★
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I call BS... http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/45560/history/

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I am doing badly yes

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          1. ★FC Borecelona★
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            How many teams do you have?

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            1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              1

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            2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              I lied, I have 1 team and it is doing badly. Thanks for rubbing it in

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            3. Breadbin
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              The mods here could find out easily.

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              1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                I hope they waste their time doing it

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                1. Breadbin
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  No transfers for a month yet you're on here all the time. Multiple teams is blatant, just like when you got kicked out of the cup last year.

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                  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    mark has 2 teams, shall we do some more investigation

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                    1. Breadbin
                      • 13 Years
                      10 years, 4 months ago

                      At least you've admitted it now, good lad.

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                  2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    and just because I am here asking about transfers does not mean I have another team my friend. Sounds like you have an agenda against me

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                    1. Breadbin
                      • 13 Years
                      10 years, 4 months ago

                      Clown.

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    3. Breadbin
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone who has a link to the ICC tournament spreadsheet could tell you.

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  2. lowlife
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Why has Evra got clean sheet points?

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He got taken off.

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Was off the field when the goal was scored & had over 60 mins.

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    3. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He was subbed off before West Ham scored wasn't he?

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    4. Tim Canterbury
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      😆 cos he's more expensive

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      1. lowlife
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Didn't realise that's how it was calculated.
        Thought he lost it because the team lost the clean sheet.

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  3. Tim Canterbury
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    The man city points are spread annoying thin over the team. No one seems to dominate the points. Yaya grabs the mandatory goal. Silva grabs the mandatory assist. Coverage seems essential due to their goals per game

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Tell me about Nasri

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      1. mucka
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I feel sorry for people who have Nasri. Its incredible how he doesn't contribute to more goals in the position he plays and the number of goals City score.

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Such is life. Good job I can pick others who contribute.

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    2. Alton E.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Milner!

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    3. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Silva's looking pretty consistent in the short bursts he's played this season. Hope he gets a good run of games now, the points could flood in.

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I was hoping for an explosion from Neg. today and had the armband on him. I think you make a valid point there. I was pleased Jesus scored today though.

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    5. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      coutinho and nasri owners are getting shafted

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  4. Blue Lion
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Choose the bettet pair.

    1)Rafael and Henderson
    2)Evans and Cabaye

    Both the mids are for the 5th mid slot.

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    1. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Don't like either defender.

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Just choose mate.

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        1. Woy of the Wovers
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I wouldn't be helping you if I did. Forget long term and pick now for the Xmas fixtures. Let the Jan WC sort things out later. Btw Cabaye will be a better option than Henderson till new year.

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    2. Deulo10
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I like the Henderson punt, but he has tough fixtures coming up. So I'll go with Evans and Cabaye.

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  5. Liastro ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Is this worth a -4?...

    Ozil + Brady -> Walcott + Silva

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      no

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      brady to cabaye ??????

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    3. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I think it's possibly a good idea but I'm a bit keen on silva.

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    4. The Mandalorian
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Is this worth a -4?...

      Ozil + Brady -> Walcott + Silva

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  6. Shifty
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Really do feel for Mark's team. This week was shouting for a -4 at least, but he's kept a midfield of Redmond, Arnautovic, Sess and Hazard with **4.7m** sitting in the bank.

    Luck hasn't been on his side but he isn't making his own luck either is he?

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    1. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I cannot fathom having that much money in the bank (or on the bench)...such a waste.

      When your money isn't being spent -or isn't playing- it's being wasted.

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  7. Grounderz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Brady to Cabaye worth a hit?

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    1. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Brady's got to go, Cabaye's scoring consistently. Go for it.

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      1. Grounderz
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        To think about it again, this will depend if Morrison is good enough to start with Brady on the bench. Will go for that move for a hit if Morrison is deemed poor to start.

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  8. applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    yaya was a casuals pick (no one knew he'd be on free kicks or pens, he'd be 50+ points worse off without both).
    then he became a lucky pick (no one knew he'd be on pens).
    now he's a fine pick (we know he's on free kicks and pens).

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      *40 points

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    2. Strificus
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It sounds like people who cried he was "too casual" are finally eating crow and trying to convince themselves (as they finally buy him); that things are NOW different.

      Welcome to casual, my friend.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        im not buying him, don't worry. just putting my view across. he's a funny player, reliably bringing in the most unreliable of points

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    3. Barry Woj
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      So true. Just got him in. Every time I've owned him in the past he's got me a string of 2s and 3s. It better be different now!

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's been a good source of points FF wise historically and is a fine player when he puts in a shift. I don't bemoan anyone that picked him from day one.

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      1. applebonkers
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        he's scored 150% of his normal goals tally in 44% of the season. it's clearly a fair gripe. he was a good source, now he's an incredibly source

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  9. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can anyone tell me if there is worth a -4?

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/profiles/liastro_3109/

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lmao

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    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Haha. Sometimes you just don't get heard.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Sometimes? He does it all the time!

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      2. Scottys Army
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        too kind lol

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  10. Lucy.
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Lost off the last page:

    Best Shelvey replacement for similar money? Max 6.0m for my 5th midfielder.

    Current mid:
    Cabaye, Hazard, Ramsey, Silva

    Wanted rid last week but had to move on the Aguero injury.

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    1. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sterling, Henderson?

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      1. Lucy.
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Hadn't considered them, thanks. Was toying with Redmond or Whittingham originally. Redmond's returns when he plays are pretty good.

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        1. Yank Revolution
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Np...those 2 are ok also (Norwich scares me - prefer Whitt over Redmond, but Cardiff are in turmoil)...however, give me the player on the better team (a team that doesn't seem to have any problem scoring mind you) and that would be one of the two Pool MF assets.

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    2. maff
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      whittingham - some great fixtures to take you towards wildcard, and is scoring right now

      redmond is possibly at risk of being dropped/rotated i think

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  11. Jude Rooney
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    6 players today and 4 of them got 3 bonus!!

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  12. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Ravel and ozil > yaya walcott for -4?

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    1. Notorious
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      exactly my transfers, I will go for Silva though because I don't have funds for Yaya

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      1. Messi & fabregas
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        silva 4 yellows, get oscar as a differential as well as many have got rid of

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  13. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    the players i want to get rid:
    Ivanovic(SWA)
    Shelvey(che)
    Ravel(ARS)

    which one is the first priority? i need to play at least ravel or shelvey in gw 18 btw.

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    1. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      First priority is the player who cost the most, so, Ivano?

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        for? you can suggest
        i already have coleman, molsson, tomkins, brown(susp)

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    2. Messi & fabregas
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      shelvey and then ravel, keep ivan they play home to a weekened swansea

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      1. Yank Revolution
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        But Chelsea isn't keeping clean sheets...don't suffer with Ivanovic any longer than you have to.

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        1. Messi & fabregas
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          true but a home match to swansea is not a priority to get rid unlike shelvey whose fixtures are horrible until week 23

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          1. Yank Revolution
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Yes, also true. But Shelvey seems to be nailed on and will be counted on more and more...Ivano (who I had for many many weeks) has been a big ball of fail all season.

            Don't waste your time, SuperO and get a good D who scores points!

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  14. Messi & fabregas
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    would u do theo for lamps tonight as lamps is dropping in price and theo by monday night when he plays he will be 9.2?

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    1. Yank Revolution
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I sure would.

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    2. Lucy.
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yes I would. Can't see how tomorrow would make you regret it, barring a major Wally injury.

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    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No wait as he's prone to injury but other then that yep

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  15. Tim Canterbury
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Rival played Debuchy (away) and benched Gabbidon (home). 13 point swing

    http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/11111/111118857/3326544-very+ouch+baby.jpg

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      good decison making

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Surely everyone would play a defender from the side that are 6th over the one that's in the bottom 3?

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      1. Tim Canterbury
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Not necessarily

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      2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        +1

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    3. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Got Debuchy in for Terry this morning - very pleased

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  16. FollowFollow
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    If you could do a wild card right now, what would your team be?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Do you have a WC?

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    2. Reedy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'd bring Walcott in and make a bunch of defensive transfers.

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  17. lmnwest
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Adebayor will score a brace next week. Heard it here first.

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  18. getfunky
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    69 pts with 6 to play. not bad. unfortunately 4 of those 6 are defenders which is the area that's let me down massively this season.

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Same score with 5 to come.......

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  19. FollowFollow
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Any love?

    Howard (McGregor)
    Coleman Evans Mertesacker (Chester Ward)
    Walcott Silva Hazard Sterling (Adam)
    Negredo Suarez Lukaku

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    1. Barry Woj
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nice team. Did you have Sterling before today?

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      1. FollowFollow
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        No, unfortunately

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  20. Strificus
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Fonte -> Debuchy

    Makes my defense look like:

    [Debuchy], Distin, Jagielka, Lovren, Baker

    Is there a better move I can make? I contemplated freeing cash; but I already have a cheap option in Baker and I might have to drop one of the Everton guys; as I also have Howard.

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    1. Jude Rooney
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Would love to see your reaction every time Swansea attack tomorrow

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  21. Total Foot 5 - romario 11
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Remy FT drop for? thx (4 straight 2pt gw)

    1--Negredo
    2--Lukaku
    3--Anyhone else?

    * Got Suarez - Rooney

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaka

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  22. Bryan Roy
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What can I do with Dawson? Wanted rid for a few weeks but had other priorities... I have one free transfer and 5.1m to spend.

    Team at the moment:

    Mignolet
    Coleman Dawson Clyne (Baker, Gabbidon)
    Silva Ozil Yaya Ramsey (Januzaj)
    Rooney Lukaku Suarez

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      WBA and STO next, keep him.

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  23. NEW POST
    applebonkers
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/12/21/the-knee-jerk-gameweek-17/

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  24. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    NEW POST

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2013/12/21/the-knee-jerk-gameweek-17/

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  25. Tim Canterbury
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    The most annoying thing about the Yaya free kick is on the beeb radio commentary they kept saying Kolorov was going to take it so I relaxed then at the last minute they said actually Yaya will take it...goal. Didn't even know he was also standing over the ball

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  26. Grounderz
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    How long till price changes?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      5.5 hours.

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  27. Crouch Potato!
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Ain't taken a hit for ages, might go mad it's x mas after all.

    Thoughts on this if you have a moment, McCauley to Whitts, Amalfitano to Silva?

    Leaves me with, Gazza (Migs)
    Jags, Dawson, Whitts (Gabbs, Collins)
    Hazard, Ozil, Ramsey, Silva, (Sterling)
    Rooney, Negredo, Suarez.

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  28. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Giroud or lukaku to replace tekkers...

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    1. FollowFollow
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lu, has good fixtures over the next 6 weeks

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Girouds are better

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  29. FollowFollow
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What players are due to rise tonight?

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  30. t0bes1
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Best midfielder for £4.9m?

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    1. t0bes1
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Other 7 front 8 are: Lukaku, Rooney, Suarez, Silva, Walcott, Ramsey, Hazard so he would barely ever be picked

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