Dugout Discussion

World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 7, Day 1

The penultimate game of the 2014 World Cup gets underway this evening as hosts Brazil prepare to take on Holland in the third/fourth place play off. Humiliated by Germany in midweek, Phil Scolari’s side have the chance to salvage some pride in the 9pm kick-off, whilst Louis Van Gaal will be equally determined to end his stint at the Dutch helm in style before taking over at Manchester United:

Brazil: Cesar; Maicon, Silva, Luiz, Maxwell; Paulinho, Gustavo; Ramires, Oscar, Willian; Jo

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi; Kuyt, Clasie, Wijnaldum, Blind; Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben

Scolari wields the axe on the back of Tuesday’s 7-1 drubbing, making as many as six changes to his starting line-up. In defence, Thiago Silva is free from suspension and takes the place of Dante at centre-half, whilst Maxwell replaces Marcelo at left-back. Further up the pitch, Paulinho, Ramires, Willian and Jo get a chance to impress, with Fernandinho, Bernard, Hulk and Fred all dropped after disappointing displays last time around. With Neymar sidelined through injury, David Luiz and Oscar carry the main attacking threat for the hosts – both have found the net twice so far, with the latter also delivering a pair of assists.

Somewhat surprisingly, Van Gaal resists the temptation to freshen up his side after an energy-sapping 120 minutes against Argentina on Wednesday night produced a single shot on target. The Dutch boss make just two alterations, as Jordy Clasie and Jonathan de Guzman come in for Wesley Sniejder and the injured Nigel de Jong in central midfield, whilst Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie lead the line in a 3-4-1-2 formation once again. Neither player has scored since Matchday 2 but the duo will be looking to finish the tournament on a high against the hosts’ porous backline – bearing in mind the United man failed to register a single attempt against the South Americans, his Fantasy owners are desperate for an improvement.

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  1. Declan
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    RVP(c) Stick or Twist, to Messi/Muller?

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    1. Mr Sarcastic
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      twist to Hummels

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Twist.

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  2. RuudVanNistelrooney
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Which player has been the SURPRISE of the tournament ,I mean a player which you thought performed out of his skin for the whole WC'14

    For me VLAAR has earned my respect the way he performed

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Vlaar for me too. Surely added atleast £10m to his price tag. Been immense

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
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        Man U for sure

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        😕

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
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          ?

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I don't think that he has been at all good. Very fortunate. De Vrij, on the other hand ...

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            1. Demí
              • 13 Years
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              I think they've both been excellent.

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            2. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
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              You worry me at times

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            3. Epic Fail
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
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              😯

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            4. pundit of punts
              • 11 Years
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              😯

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            5. RuudVanNistelrooney
              • 10 Years
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              😯

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    2. Home Run Baker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Medel

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      1. RuudVanNistelrooney
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        For a player who plays as CDM ,he did one hell of a job in hell of a group

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        1. Zasa
          • 9 Years
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          This

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        very surprised how good he was after the australia game, Cahill gave him the run around but after that he was immense

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    3. GREENDREAMS11
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Vlaar deff, liked the look of Perisic and Enner Valencia

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Perisic is a great shout too. Would love to see him in the prem

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          yeah, liked him a lot, pity Croatia didnt go further.

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      2. RuudVanNistelrooney
        • 10 Years
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        Yeah these two too

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    4. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 10 Years
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      de Vrij for me. Considering his inexperience, he's been brilliant.

      I always thought Vlaar was somewhat underrated anyway.

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    5. The Hound
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Vlaar Been awesome

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    6. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I agree on Vlaar, especially I'm the last two games.

      I also thought David Luiz showed his worth as a top notch £50m defender 😉

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      1. RuudVanNistelrooney
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I asked for SURPRISE player & then you name Luiz ,we've always known he is worth way more than that

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    7. RuudVanNistelrooney
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I would like to mention Mascherano here ,he's been immense for Argentina

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        was brilliant last game, havent really paid too much attention to the earlier games as they were boring. Well done RVP giving his medal to that tool who dressed up like that all tournament

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  3. Home Run Baker
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    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Where's Chiles?

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    1. I.A.P
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      He'll be on the final.

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Not on BBC he won't 😉

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        1. I.A.P
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          It's on ITV as well.

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          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            I know, you can choose which to watch I believe?

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            1. The Hound
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 9 months ago

              BBC better then itv. Can't stand Townsend or chiles.

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              1. I.A.P
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Yeah. Al be watching BBC for some classic Hansen punditry for the last time.

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  4. Messi & fabregas
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    thinking of dropping muller!!

    don't know who to leave on the bench?

    DONT PLAY 2 OF muller, boating, rojo, hoewedes, demichelis, lahm, biglia, macherano ??

    de vrij (C) 22, cilessen 10, vlaar 11, wildanum 11, rvp 10, classie 7 (will remove him)

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    1. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Biglia and Hoewedes

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    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Biglia and either Hoewedes or Rojo.

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  5. Zep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Have to bench one of Rojo/Demi/Boateng?

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I'm not sure, you tell us whéther you do or not...

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
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      Oh look at me with strength in depth..

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      1. Zep
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, it's tough... 🙂

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        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          😀

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  6. mr messi
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Neuer in for Cilleson? Boating in for Oscar?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Boating in for Oscar

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah.

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  7. Billy Gilmore
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Higuain, Cuadrado and de Vrij –> Jo, Sneijder and Maxwell

    Benched Blind as a result. Not the greatest transfers in the world...

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  8. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Who are you captaining: Messi or Mueller?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      I haven't got Muller.

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      1. I.A.P
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sticking with DeVrij me thinks...26 points.

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        1. The Hound
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Yup feel gotta now

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      A defender of course.

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      1. elkunaguero
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Hummels or Garay

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  9. Jebus Saves
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    7 Dutchies in the team.

    Happy Van Days

    🙂

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    1. elkunaguero
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      you rank will drop tomorrow...

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Here he is. Geoff Shreeves.

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      2. Jebus Saves
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Ranked 7th in the world before the update boss.

        🙂

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      3. mason419
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I can take over from here El Magico...

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          😆

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        2. Jebus Saves
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I can take it Geoff.

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  10. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    hmmm clasie ended up on 7 in the end..... not awful for a mid

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  11. It’s A Joke
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Martin O'Neil is so desperate to be taken seriously.

    He takes himself too seriously.

    He needs to lighten up.

    And stop sueing Football365 all the time.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      +42. Well said. He is a silly little plonker.

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  12. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Did well in tonight's game. Should move above the Missus in work league now&!! 😀

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  13. elkunaguero
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Oscar was the best player for Brazil and ended on 3 points... LOL

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Their highest scorer was 6 🙂

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
      • 11 Years
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      Dive. Dive. Dive. Dive. Best player? 🙁

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
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        Didn't have much competition tbf.

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          True. At least he did that I guess.

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  14. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Vlaar c on 22 would you stick or twist with that?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Twist.

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Who you captaining from tomorrow's game?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Messi just for the fun aspect. I know he's not a safe option.

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      2. Jebus Saves
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        stick.

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    2. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Stick if you've got something to lose.

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  15. ManUtdFan_UK
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Vlaar (C) = 22 points.

    Stick or twist to Hummels (C)? (Im chasing, so think Hummels (C) for the last roll of the dice)...

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      how many points do u expect from your captain? 40?

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      1. ManUtdFan_UK
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I wish!

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    2. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      May as well if you've got nothing to lose.

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  16. Keepergirl
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Scores for this round?

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    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      84

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    2. I.A.P
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      33 only 2 players. DeVrij captain.

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  17. smash
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Saw something on here earlier that Rojo was a doubt, anything in that?

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  18. Dangerous Dave
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Who would you captain? Messi, Klose, Muller or Kroos?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Messi, but that's me.

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  19. NickyG_23
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Should remove Gustavo, who is on 3 points...

    Have Mascherano and Khedira on the bench, who would you suggest?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      No,too risky

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      1. NickyG_23
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Even Mascherano?

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        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          I'm kidding bring in Masc 🙂

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    2. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Masch Potatoes

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    3. Grunter75
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      is that a sarcastic question? Either! A better question is who's your next worst scorer from tonight and if your should remove him

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  20. Rossaldinho
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Hi guys - in McD game I have Mertesacker on bench. Do I leave him there or if not then which of these should be sacrificed?

    Rojo
    Garay
    Kroos
    Khedira
    Mascherano
    Higuain
    Messi
    Muller

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Wait until lineups?

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    2. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Why do you have Mertesacker?

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      1. Rossaldinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Because Hummels is doubtful - anyway I think I shall leave him on bench!

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          So why didn't you get Boateng who's cheaper and guaranteed to play?

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  21. Keepergirl
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Ankle knock
    Don't sub until you see line up tomorrow

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    1. Keepergirl
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Sorry...this was a response to earlier Rojo start question

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      1. smash
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, rival has Rojo so fingers crossed!

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    2. Rossaldinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Are you saying Mertesacker has an ankle knock?

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  22. Willis.
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    North Korea have made it to the final! Where they will contest Portugal! Well according to the North Korean media anyway...
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZJoRZOK18Fg

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Old news, they've already won it.

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  23. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    It's really getting on my tits that wee twerp Wright calling Hoddle gaffer, what a tube.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Me too. The whole panel is utter shite.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Sorry Doos, the Irishman talks sense

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Normally, I adore Irishmen. But I make an exception in his case. 😉

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  24. Butthead
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Lose Clasie for a German?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Lose class all you want,your call

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    2. Messi & fabregas
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      same boat

      thinking of not playing lahm or muller...

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    3. Grunter75
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Same boat

      Claise 7 or Rojo

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  25. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    drop one

    garay , demi, rojo ?

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      rojo

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    2. Root
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      It's simple. One is not a CB.

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        aye, goal threat tho

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    3. Gatsby
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Rojo

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  26. Messi & fabregas
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    playing already demichelis and boating

    play rojo or hoewedes ?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Howedes

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  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Highlight of the day... Discovering that pigs in blankets are for life, not just for Christmas 😎

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    1. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Ahh, I loves those piggies in the blankets 🙂

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    2. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Oh, and the England last wicket stand, shame they couldn't get to 200

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  28. Djerbil
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    Technically U are actually happier after finishing 3rd than 2nd

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  29. GREENDREAMS11
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 months ago

    D'you know what. MON says pretty much everything I think. Personally I think he is a great pundit.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Have to take issue with you there. 🙂

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        Football is all about opinions Doos, I was thinking the other day that the Silva miss against Holland cost me £190 on my semi finalists bet,, Brazil, Germany. Argentina. and Spain. and MON pretty much said the same thing earlier today. The Messi scenario etc etc. he just seems to say the same as what I think. That doesn't make him or me right. But, hesays what I think therefore, I think he's great. 😉

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        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          You've got me questioning my respect for MON's opinions now. 🙂

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          1. GREENDREAMS11
            • 14 Years
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            ha ha. I hate David Silva........ That said, im a out £500-600 in profit from the WC. so reasonably happy.

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          Fair enough. More loo time needed, though. 😉

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    2. It’s A Joke
      • 13 Years
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      He does talk sense but he is too full of self importance. He is totally incapable of having a laugh at himself. If you made a joke about him, he'd sue you. Ask F365.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 14 Years
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        lol.

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    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      Him & Strachan, the only 2 worth listening to.
      Sorry Doos.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 months ago

        I see. The one talks believable bollocks, the other, incomprehensible gibberish.

        Only joking. Sort of. 🙂

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 9 months ago

          Have to add to this, Alan Hansen documentary was class last night...

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 9 months ago

            Now you are just pulling my chain ... 😆

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
              • 14 Years
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              lol. no, as a jock I actually enjoyed it, my dad is souness half brother

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              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 9 months ago

                Ahhh ... 😉

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                1. GREENDREAMS11
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 9 months ago

                  long story, but im much more handsome than him. 😉

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 9 months ago

                    I don't doubt that for a moment! 😀

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  30. MJ6987
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    9 years, 9 months ago

    As a United fan, I wouldn't mind getting Vlaar and De Vrij as a pair.

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    1. GREENDREAMS11
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 months ago

      im totally gobsmacked at just how good Vlaar has been, thats the genius of a manager playing the right person in the right formation. Making an average player look really good.

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