With the final double Gameweek of the season almost upon us, we turn our attentions to the Opta statistics to assess the recent form of Arsenal and Sunderland.
Using the team profile data, we take a look at both sides displays from Gameweek 30-36 – a period of time that saw them play six times apiece and one that coincides with Dick Advocaat’s arrival at the Stadium of Light.
Such as the Premier League.
Yeah pretty much. Tottenham was more like a puddle.
Spurs are hardly Real Madrid.
Lot's of players like that Bubz. It's a shame that so many don't realise it before they move.
How did you 365ers get on? Ronaldo FGS?
Good game and great result. So glad i haven't gotta sit through another Braca - Real game!!!
Last night was the first time I'd tried the in-play money back offer and I played it safe and made £18.75. Tonight, I took a risk and backed Real Madrid to win before the game then only backed the draw in-play.
If I'd waited 30 secs, I would've seen the Real Madrid goal and could've backed the draw at much higher odds! Once Juve got the equaliser I needed to hedge my bets and cover Juve snatching a winner.
It all ended up being; RM win = £10, draw = £60, Juve win = £20.
So up £78.75 over the 2 nights. Happy with that!
Not bad mate. Absolute gold that 365 offer
Learnt a few lessons about not being greedy and hedging your bets no matter how unlikely that result happening (RM 1-0 up had Juve at 16/1 to win, so should've taken £5 profit and covered that result).
Still, absolutely no risk last night and little risk tonight and I've made £80, so can't complain.
Instinct was Ronaldo FGS but I got greedy and went Ramos AGS. It was 3/1 v 5/1 so wasn't even that good! Oh well, maybe next time 🙂
Ha. I wondered if you went for that. Unlucky mate
I'm afraid I backed Juve. Should have listened to you (congrats by the way!).
TBH I'm just glad I've grasped the concept now and look forward to more free money in future. 🙂
Bale is a great player, Hazard is better. Would have both in my fantasy team if in Premier league.
Bale is perfect robben replacement
LOL
LOL
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Bale has scored 13 goals and 8 assists this season.
Hazard has scored 14 goals and 8 assists, playing 7 games more.
#Prospective
That's an awful comparison
True.
Why?
Is it?
How do you compare la liga and EPL?
And do you think stats actually do the justice here?
Perspective?
Perspex
Auto correct. Sorry!
Oh how many goals did Bale score?
Hazard is one of those players you have to watch to fully appreciate. Stats don't do him justice. He terrorises defences.
These most superficial stats (games, goals, assists) hardly are worth much anything anyway.
#WrongWord
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Bale plays against tumbleweed most weeks
Hazard plays in the hardest league in the world
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Don't think so. It's that top teams in PL are not as strong as Barca, Real, not that the lower teams are better.
Hull would piss all over Algeria 😉
lol that was meant to be Almería. I think Algeria would probably destroy Hull
McShane and Bruce bossing and terrorizing Almeria.
McShane just bosses life
Aye maybe. I suspect Real Madrid and Barca would really make QPR and Hull look very silly indeed.
lol could you imagine? It would be hilarious Karl Henry and go going to the Nou Camp hahahaha 10-0
Aye...jeez...(shudders)...
Oh give it a rest. Just because Sky bang out that phrase every week doesn't make it true. There are some very poor teams in the Prem
Agreed.
There aren't some very poor teams in la liga?
There are poor teams in each, and it's very close, but the Madrid sides, Valencia, Barca would all challenge for top 4 in the prem too.
La Liga isn't miles better than the prem, but the prem is definitely not far ahead of La Liga either, not matter how "exciting" it is 😉 *cough* Sky bullsh*t *cough*
Yeah, ok.
Casillas should have saved that
No, he couldnt see anything. But that throw in... 🙂
Should have gone to....vision express
Volleyed into the ground from closer than the penalty spot, not exactly routine no matter how close it was to him.
Would love to see Juve win it, it would massively help Italy's coefficient
agree, rebirth of italian football if they do.
Ronaldo doesn't like Bale - Discuss?
Ronaldo only loves himself -discuss?
Hot Topic!!!
Ronaldo doesn't like Messi- discuss?
I would only be guessing as I don't know them personally
It's a fantasy football site we know nothing Sid !
No try discuss 😉
I dont like ronaldo
Hot Topic as well!
When discussion starts from the eventual conclusions, it can as well not begin at all.
Ronaldo was scared of Donkey Kong as a child, and has transplanted these feelings towards DK's doppelganger, Bale
When I was younger, the Irish care system really let me down.
Growing up, my dad would beat me every week without fail. This went on for years until, one day, I finally plucked up the courage to phone Childline.
However, upon a thorough investigation, the so called childcare experts decided that constantly topping my high-score on Pac-Man, donkey kong and Outrun did not constitute abuse.
😡 The bar stewards 😆
😉
I don't think he has anything against him really, he's just expecting more from Bale (as is everyone in Spain) due to the price tag and Bale's heroic timing of goals last season.
Bale has recently been much better than Ronaldo. He's just been made the scapegoat really.
They're performing similarly in terms of the build up play (mostly crap) but the difference is Ronaldo is still getting into those number 9 positions and is actually finishing chances. Bale just isn't firing at the moment in front of goal.
I agree massively that Bale is being made a scapegoat, but that's what happens when you're bought for more money than Ronaldo and don't perform to half the same standard.
€100m could have bought nearly anyone in the world.
Oh we're getting serious now 😉
Fair point IM tho
🙂
Tis an interesting topic 🙂 I like to hear how others see the whole Bale v Ronaldo thing, as both sides have good points.
I think (being serious) there must be some serious problems all round there tho I am uneducated just what I hear in the media etc by all accounts Bale isn't liked in the dressing room and Carli wanted to drop Bale but the president intervened-seems like a soap opera tbh,
Tho I do know this result will have its casualties.
I think this result just killed Bale, Ancelotti and Casillas, maybe even Hernandez too. Madrid will probably want to shed the feeling of this season and start afresh, as crazy as it sounds after finishing 2nd and getting to the CL semi 😛
Bale doesn't like Bale. Discuss
It seems that Ronaldo likes at least Benzema and James, apparently because they, particularly Benzema, have understood that their role is to play scoring chances to Ronaldo.
So, it's not that Ronaldo doesn't like anybody but himself. He only doesn't like players who try things other than improving Ronaldo's goal tally.
This!
Haha true
Correct. I think CR7 has developed something of a total fixation about scoring goals. He's not a team player in the way that, for example, Messi is.
Now that is how you rebuild a team, Juve bought Tevez for like 12 mil and Morato wasn't that expensive I don't think.
As A Milan fan, hat off to Juve, they have intelligently rebuilt their team into a world class one, I hope Milan can do that soon.....
very true, the likes of Liverpoo should take a good look at that model.
23 goddamn shots.. Juve better batter Barca.
How would City team look like next season for me:
Hart
Zabaleta Kompany Mangala Bertrand
Pogba Fernandinho Silva
Walcott Aguero Griezmann
Bench: Caballero, Denayer, Clichy, Fernando, Rony Lopes, Ibe, Bony
lol
Something funny?
Lol
Bertrand only signed a contract with southampton a couple of months ago
Suarez did the same just couple months before he moved to Barca.
No bale?
So you're saying you'll need an eye test next season?
U funny boy..English isn't my native language.
😛
Using "look" wasn't bad English, and that was the word I was making the joke on.
I would never have a go at someone with an Aleks grav 😉
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Hard to say, it could be anything. One things for sure it needs changing and they won't be looking in the bargain basement.
To me it looks more like:
Neuer
Ivanovic Kompany Chiellini Marcelo
Pogba Verratti James
Bale Messi Hazard
Great article.
Pretty much all you need to know about the DGW teams.
Still doesn't tell me who to buy as my 3rd Arsenal though does it TM? I think Paul needs to try harder with these articles, he clearly doesn't put in enough effort otherwise my choice would be a lot easier.
Ramsey?
Cazorla?
Özil?
Bellerín?
Let me know when you decide and why. Might make my decision easier...
Ospina obviously.
Meh. I have Ospina/Sanchez (and PVA) already.
Was all set on Ramsey, but I suspect my ML rival (+18) will go for him, and he's matched all the others (and got Gómez) already.
Cazorla. Obviously. 😉
This should help you Anorak 🙂
http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/05/13/assessing-arsenals-double-gameweek-attacking-options/
+ 42
Evening guys
Bench one of these
A: Schlupp (SUN)
B: Alderweireld (AVL)
C: Fellaini (ARS)
Cheers
Ronaldo massively at fault for Bale's dip in form. His body language every time Bale did something wrong was appalling, and it spread to others in Real team.
The entire atmosphere at the club is toxic at the moment, imo. Won't be surprised if a few ask to leave this Summer.
Agreed, but Ronaldo is definitely the main perpetrator. Such a brat.
Can see a lot of changes alright.
aww poor Bale
No, I think it's Ancelotti and co who should be blamed. They shouldn't give Ronaldo more importance than he deserves. Ronaldo hasn't been behaving well recently and the coach should take the necessary measure to amend this. He is not bigger than the club and I am a big Ronaldo fan.
Ronaldo deserves a lot of importance
He demands it too though. He very obviously thinks he's king, but it's ok so long as he's still scoring.
Freaking out after a teammate scores or makes a mistake needs to be taken care of, if that is what you mean by importance.
They're just pissed because Barca look like winning the lot and there's not a lot they can do about it.
Don't ManU want him back anyway? If I was deciding at Madrid, I would sell him without batting an eye.
#freeDemi
He's free.
#unfreeDemi
Schmcl(panti)
Terry skrtl pva mcshn duff
Haz sanchz Hendo Silva (cambiso)
Aguero giroud vardy
1ft 2.3 itb
1) hendo to ramsey
2) hendo to caz
3) haz to ozil
4) mcshn to kosc
1 or 2
How would Liverpool look like next season for me
Mig
Wisdom Skrtel Flanaggan
Ibe Hendo Can Coutinho Lallana
Ings Studge of fit or that Belgian geezer
Pretty average
You are playing Wisdom and Flanagan as centre halves?
Yes, I know it's a joke aye
?????
Mignolet
Can Skrtel Sakho
Ibe Henderson XXX Moreno
Sterling Sturridge Coutinho
That's without any signings and its not pretty average. You can't just pick and choose players like Wisdom and Flanagan and chuck them in the first team.
Mine was a joke and wind up 😉
Oops. I wasn't reading the thread with any attention
Moreno Sterling Sakho are weak links
Plus I reckon Can will replace Stevie G next season
Sakho isn't a weak link. If he wasn't so inury prone he'd be the best defender in the league.
This. He is a great defender. No coincidence we went on a run of cleansheets when he was in the side.
YAAAYYY!! Someone with sense
Definitely. It was an absolute steal, to get him for that price.
hahahahahahahahha
Sakho is quality. I agree on Can
Really think Ibe deserves a chance up top. Studge will miss the start of the season, so that'd be a good time.
He is much better on wing though
I know, but just a chance while Studge is out. A couple of easier games perhaps, just to see if he can fit in there when injuried undoubtedly come calling.
I'd play him up front throughout the Europa league
Could be an option, certainly. Good to give him more experience there in case needed.
If we haven't bought proper strikers by the start of next season it'll be a car crash.
It's alright, I've heard renowned Italian flop Ciro Immobile is on the way 😉
Mignolet
Montoya Skrtel Sakho Moreno
Can
Hendo ??? (Pjanic I hope)
Coutinho
Studge Ings
ings shouldn't be near our first team, wouldn't mind him as a borini replacement
I genuinely think Ings will be perfect fit for Liverpool
British, mediocre, young? Yup
I hope to get Lacazzette next to Studge, but our transfer COMITEE is full of cr@p... Ings > (Borini+Rickie) IMO. Really don't know what's the situation around Ballotelli :X
Our committee is good. Structure needs to be readjusted in terms of wages. BR and Ayre are full of crap.
Sturridge, Can, Markovic, Moreno, Coutinho are all committee signings. Brendan? Lovren, Lallana, Allen, Borin.
Can should play in midfield. He is wasting his talent at CB. And I am pretty sure Lpool can't go above 8th position next season.
LOL
Sakho ?!?
What would Chelsea look like next season?
Mostly blue
🙂
Looks like correct. 😆
Only, where's Haz?
That's the game, try to find him 😉
A bus at the back with 9 players
Hazard and Costa
The same with a new bench player who will be sold after a year only to be wanted back by Chelsea after his performances.
Courtois
Ivanovic Terry Godin Azpilcueta
Fabregas Matic
Willian Oscar Hazard
Costa
Maybe swap Willian to Bale 🙂
Can't see them signing a CB to get in Zouma's way
A year older
Best 3 players joining the Premiership next season?
Will DePay be in the top 3?
Fingers crossed 🙂
another di maria or poborsky
Depay Hummels Pogba
Which teams for the last 2?
Manu and city
If Pogba joined anyone but Chelsea it would be a step backwards.
Not sure why he'd reject PSG, Barca or Madrid for anyone but the champs, and I can't see Chelsea buying him tbh, unless Cesc doesn't have much of a future.
It's a step back to join City?
From the Italian Champions in the CL Final with an illustrious history, to the 3rd best team in England who have been knocked out at the group stages every year?
It's hardly a step up? 😛
Italian football isn't that great. Agree with Madrid, Barca but not PSG
How can the champions of 2013/14 and the champions twice over the past 4 seasons who are second currently be the 3rd best team in England?
people don't take City seriously enough IMO... They're going to be huge
City still have only once advanced from the group stage in CL and then were knocked out immediately. PSG in QF's twice in three years, this year beat the by far best PL team in CL despite an unfair red card and a huge injury crisis. Juve is in final this year. Maybe English football isn't that great.
Twice, last years comp and this years comp and this year to the probable winners
I remember United in 94-97 being absolutely dog turd in the European Cup and the rhetoric was " we need the experience"
Don't see why United were lauded whilst City are persecuted
English football has got weaker but overall is a higher standard of competition than Serie A , IMO
Definitely.
I politely disagree
I wish more people on this site would disagree in this manner...it's rather refreshing 🙂
🙂
Ha - don't want to sound like a **** because sometimes things can be misconstrued over a forum. Just having a sensible chat about football
Money talks, City will splash the cash
True, it would be a nice kick in the teeth to Fergie too.
If Pogba and Bale came it would make things really interesting!
Any player United signs
Goes without saying
Haha
Bendtner CR7 Messi
Hard to say TM. Moving to another country doesn't always work out well for a player. Who ever thought ADM would have been so average this season ?
bale hummels gundogan
A bit like Di Maria, Balotelli and Falcao were the 3 best to arrive this season?
Memphis is coming from a really different league. Hopeful as he is Dutch trained and has been great in Eredivisie at such a young age, and as a winger. But very hard to say how he'll transition.
City will no doubt sign a big player or two who should, realistically, make a big impact. Chelsea may look for another big one as well. Not sure what Arsenal will do in terms of players from outside the prem, same goes for Pool.
He's the real deal though.
I certainly hope so. Like the look of him a lot.
If he'll be a midfielder in FPL, he'll be straight into my team from the start.
Bale, Gotze(?!) and Koke 😀
Gotze can stay and rot at Bayern. 👿
Haha in an ideal world 😉
Isco Griezzman Pogba
The Bournmouth feller. 😉
NEENYG, were you the chap who told people to get Charlie Adam in last week?
If so, thank you sir!
Maybe that was me, your welcome anyway :p Might have been the other Pilkington
Go on the Juve!
No balance in Real's midfield. Would be critical of Ancelotti for playing Ramos ahead of a propper DM recently, and none at all tonight.
Khedira would have made a big difference tonight IMO
I think they should have signed a DM before signing james rodrigz, they lack steal midfiled.
They sold Makelele the last time they won the CL.
Not the sharpest bunch, are they?
They have Khedira and Illaramendi, they just choose not to use them for some reason.
As far as i remember they evn bought a player named silva in jan and evn he have not played much
It's hard to be successful as a team when you have a player in your team who wants to steal all the limelight.
Of course. I'm just talking basic tactics
McShane would have had Bale in his pocket tonight,
Seems he's on a free and on his way to Madrid to discuss terms
Flashbacks of Woodgate and Graveson..
woody and grav couldn't lace Mcshanes boots!
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So it's Arsenals turn I guess
Ospina (no to Cech)
Debuchy Kos Gabriel Monreal
Ramsey Khedira
Santi Ozil Sanchez
Marseille forward, can't remember his name
Gignac
Wenger buying a DM? Are you kidding me?
You'll be surprised
Khedira is going Shalke
Nothing agree. Speculation
And your original post is...
Good point 🙂
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No faith in Coquelin...think he's been class for you in the latter half of the season
He will certainly get minutes
Gignac would be a step down from Giroud.
Only in handsomeness 😉
In everything.
We would love to get Cavani etc. but don't think they would chose us unfortunately
Saw him live last season.... couldn't believe what a lump he was!
Clearly you didn't see him this season
What have i missed?
What about that Lacazette guy from Lyon?
Morgan will be an arsenal player
2 questions:
1) Play Terry or Ivanovic (both wba)?
2) Play Myhill (CHE) or Schmeichel (sun)?
Thanks muchly
Terry
Kasper
Why Terry ahead of Branislav?
Kasper I'm leaning towards.
because Ivan is a magnet for yellow cards and terry has goal threat from corners and cheaper. Good enough?
Cheaper doesn't come into it but otherwise seems to make sense. 🙂
Maybe Ivan is more due though... who knows?
John and The friendly ghost!
Hahaa. Ta!
Just seen that Pearson "head in the sand" interview. What an entirely unpleasant knob he is....he has a problem that bloke.
No you're wrong...everyone else has the problem 😉
As long as those double cs keep coming....
Absolute idiot
You're an ostrich Wakey 😛
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Rrrrrrrepost!
Hi everyone don't normally post my team, but I have EXACTLY THE SAME POINTS as my money league rival.
Team:
Pants
Coleman | Skertal | Creswell | PVA | Berty
Hazard | Ramsey | Henderson | Silva | Boyd
Aguero | Giroud | Benetke
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I'm thinking:
-4 hit for:
Haz + Coleaman out -> Sanchez + Schlup (play next week) / Sanchez + Kolarov
Right moves?
I wouldn't take a hit if it's that close
Depends who your rival has
How much Itb
They sound like right moves to me.
Will John Terry last another season at the top level
Sure. Best defender in Premier League history. He can clog along for another year 😉
Yes.
Do you classify Epl as 'Top level'?
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Do you think Fabs has a higher chance than Haz of starting this wkd with Mikel and Loftus Bum playing central pivot he could end up playin in the hole in a more advanced position too? Thoughts
Yes
Not for me.
Ancelotti and Guardeola to be both sacked?
I think so now.
Pep sacked? Can't see that. Have i missed something?
Carlo quite possibly. It's Madrid after all. Sure it won't bother him too much, he can take his pick. Brilliant manager
Not so sure now Dunny, what has he Dunne?
It was a given he'd win the bunda league with the assets at his disposal, personally without messi and a few others he's been found out.
Oh quite possibly. I'm not defending the guy just that Bayern don't seem the type to fire someone after one disappointment
Carlo can go manage any team in the world. Doubt he's bothered.
Madrid are an unclassy club anyway
Pep won't be
Carlo for sure. Most likely City is next destination
Neither.
Davis, Myhill
Terry, Moreno, Clyne, Morgan, Dawson
Sanchez, Hazard, Silva, Ramsey, Boyd
Aguero, Benteke, Kane
1FT, 0.5 in bank
Struggling to choose best transfers for DGW
A) Davis -> Ospina
B) Dawson -> Bellerin
C) Other
8 years, 12 months agoBale is much better as a big fish in a small pond