Moving Target

Moving Target – Steve McClaren

Newcastle United filled their vacant managerial post last Wednesday, signing Steve McClaren to a three-year deal. The former Derby County boss was sacked at the end the 2014/15 Championship season after failing to secure a play-off berth – despite the fact the Rams topped the division in late February.

Magpies managing director Lee Charnley landed his man on the third attempt, having approached McClaren in the wake of Alan Pardew’s dismissal and again with three fixtures left on the calendar – when the Toon were in the midst of an eight-match losing streak under John Carver’s tenure.

Newcastle recorded just three wins in the second half of the season, so there’s clearly a plethora of shortcomings to address on his arrival at St James’ Park. Nonetheless, McClaren is certainly not setting his sights low for the season ahead:

“This is a big club with a wonderful heritage. St. James’ Park is like a cathedral on a Saturday afternoon, a symbol for the city and I am excited to be given this opportunity. This club has waited far too long to win a trophy. That’s one of my primary objectives here. I’ve already won trophies as a manager, and a club the size of Newcastle United should be winning cups and finishing in the top eight in the Premier League. I’m determined to give the supporters of Newcastle United a team they can be proud of. The hard work starts now.”

The History

Following spells as an assistant coach at Derby County and then Manchester United, McClaren replaced the outgoing Bryan Robson at Middleborough. During his five-year stint at the Teesside club, the former Hull City midfielder guided them to a League Cup trophy (2003/04) and a Uefa Cup final (2005/06), becoming the first Englishman to take an English club to a European final since 1984.

McClaren’s next appointment saw him replace Seven-Goran Eriksson in the England hot seat. He famously presided over the Three Lions squad that failed to qualify for Euro 2008 after a loss 3-2 to Croatia in their final group fixture, and was sacked the day after the Wembley disaster, marking the shortest tenure (18 games in 16 months) of any English manager in history.

McClaren dusted himself off and made the switch to the Eredivisie, taking the reins at FC Twente. Having steered the Dutch outfit out of the UEFA Cup group stages for the first time in 30 years during his debut season, McClaren led Twente to the first league title in the club’s history in the 2009/10 campaign. In the process, he recorded the highest win percentage (63.37%) of his career to date.

In the wake of two unsuccessful spells at Wolfsburg (24 matches at a 29.17% win rate) and Nottingham Forest (13 matches at a 23.08% win rate), McClaren returned to Twente in January 2012. A sixth place finish fell well short of the York-born manager’s title ambitions, ultimately leading to his resignation midway through the next season.

Two summers ago, McClaren was installed as the head coach of Derby County on a two-and-a-half-year deal. A tally of 85 points in his first season earned the Rams entry into the Championship play-offs, where they were beaten in the final by Queens Park Rangers. The 2014/15 campaign looked certain to reap greater rewards, given that Derby were perched at the summit on February 24. Unfortunately, McClaren’s outfit went into free fall from that point on, recording just two wins in their final 13 match-ups and falling out of play-off contention entirely.

The Previous Regime

In response to Alan Pardew taking up the mantle at Crystal Palace, John Carver – who’d been assigned as caretaker manager for the Toon’s previous two matches – was handed the reins until the end of the season.

Although Carver’s tenure gone off to the perfect start with a 3-0 road victory over Hull City, Newcastle’s subsequent eight-match losing streak set a new ignominious record for the Tyneside club in the top flight. Carver arrested the run of defeats with a draw against West Bromwich Albion and a win against West Ham United on the final day – ultimately ensuring Newcastle’ survival – but three wins in 16 matches proved insufficient to warrant a renewal on his contract.

The Season Ahead

Judging from McClaren’s conversation with the local press, it’ll be some time before he’s formulated a clear plan of action. For now, Alex Ferguson’s former assistant insists that every player stands on equal footing as he sets about scrutinising Newcastle’s full roster:

“Everyone’s got a clean slate. I’ve got no preconceptions of anyone – they are all damned good players. At the end of the day they have to produce and cross the white line for us. As a staff we’ll try to get them producing and get everyone on the same page. At the moment there seem to be a lot of pages flying about. We need to work out what we’re trying to do and get everyone going in the right direction to do it. A lot of the next few weeks is communication. What can we do to improve things?”

In terms of tactics, McLaren is likely to continue with the 4-3-3 formation that brought Derby so close to promotion. The former Rams boss favours a target man to lead the line, with a holding midfielder sitting in front of the back-four – indeed, his lack of a Plan B and reluctance to change systems, in spite of a number of late-season injuries, has been cited as fundamental to his former side’s failure to make the step up to the top-flight.

Furthermore, McClaren has stated his intention to field a smattering of flair players who possess the pace and trickery to threaten opposition defences. He also expressed the importance of delving into the transfer market to strengthen their options up front:

“One thing I want to see is exciting players – a bit of pace, a bit of speed and individualism. This crowd has always had a number nine-style player and it’d be great to get one of them in. Believe me, every manager would say they want to build this exciting team that attacks all the time and scores goals. Ultimately though, you want to build a team that wins. We’re in the results business – there are different ways to achieve that and different styles. Sometimes you have to be pragmatic and work with what you have. I’ve got a vision and I know what I want to achieve.”

On the flanks, Remy Cabella will be hoping to make his mark after a disappointing debut year on Tyneside. The Frenchman racked up 14 goals in his final season with Montpellier and could be a key player under the new regime as McLaren goes on the offensive. There’s hope that McClaren’s search for that x-factor could result in an increased role for Rolando Aarons. The Jamaican-born winger – who wields pace in abundance and silky footwork – would have been a much more prominent feature for the North East outfit had he not suffered a spate of hamstring and thigh injuries last term. Now fit again and scoring for the England U20s in the Toulon tournament, Aarons could be a breakthrough Fantasy star next season.

Expanding on the striker situation, Charlie Austin, Andy Carroll and Wolfsburg frontman Bas Dost have all been heavily linked with a move to St James’ Park in recent weeks. Although Papiss Cisse returned to form last season – given that only Sergio Aguero (101.6) and Diego Costa (106.7) posted a superior minutes per goal record – his struggles with injuries and ill-discipline (missed 10 fixtures due to suspensions) necessitate added depth in that department.

As a result of Newcastle’s dire defensive record last season (only QPR conceded more goals), the majority of their first-teamers at the back should retain low starting values. This could give rise to a handful of enticing sub-5.0 options if McClaren can instill some resilience and organisation in the rearguard, with the likes of Tim Krul and Fabricio Coloccini expected to start at 4.5 again, though Daryl Janmaat – by virtue of his one goal and eight assists in the previous campaign – is likely to remain the priciest and most attractive backline option at St James’ Park.

Elsewhere in the Toon camp, McClaren will be looking to source more goals from the centre of the park next term, considering their midfielders notched just 13 between them. Moussa Sissoko is arguably the strongest candidate to shoulder that responsibility; the all-action France international was the joint-top goalscorer (four) among his counterparts and sat first and second for attempts on goal (44) and key passes (43) amongst his midfield team-mates respectively.

McLaren will also be hoping that forgotten man Siem de Jong can finally shake off the injury concerns that restricted him to a mere four first-team appearances for the Magpies last time out. Like Cabella, the Dutchman has the pedigree and can also be expected to sit in the mid-price bracket as a result of last term’s struggles.

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  1. President John F. Keninnsie
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    Great article.

    1. President John F. Keninnsie
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      But who's Seven-Goran Eriksson?

      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        The seventh of Sven's brethren.

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Of the clan Gorryson!

  2. internal error
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    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    If Mclaren favours a 4-3-3 then maybe Austin won't be that great a pick as he seems to favour playing off a target man.

  3. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    I really hope that Watford gets relegated this year and never see PL ever again. Backstabbing fools ditched the coach that got them this far.

    1. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What's the story there? Seems odd

      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
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        8 years, 11 months ago

        Well, they just decided to replace him and Jokanovic is a great coach, really thought they would stay in PL with him. He signed today for Makabi Tel Aviv.

    2. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I thought he was asking for his salary to be tripled, or were those reports inaccurate?

    3. Somalion
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He demanded a massive wage hike...

      1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
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        • 9 Years
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        Wait, Quique Flores didn't? He's gonna work for free? Come on... Flores will get more than Jokanovic demanded but the latter one deserved to demand.

  4. pompeyfan
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    He's a good appointment for me, good manager.

    1. HVT
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      You reckon Depay will do well this season Pf?
      I've him in my team atm pending fixtures.

      1. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        for me it will depend on how Man Utd do. If they start well and are towards the top of the league then I see him contributing with some goals and assists. I can see him ending the season with something like 10-15 goals and maybe 10 assist.

        Unfortunately I can't see him not being listed as a forward in FPL

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
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          My bad I didn't realise that his classification would be a forward, that looks s real shame as that may render him useless as a Fpl asset.

          1. pompeyfan
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            this is just my opinion, other have disagreed with me...

    2. Get up ya bum
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      I was a fan of his at Middlesbrough and the England job is a terrible one. Followed what he did at twente for a while so have always held him in high regard. Didn't realise how far he fell since then though. Still got you reckon?

      1. pompeyfan
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        time will tell, but I think so.

      2. HVT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I think a mid table finish is not beyond him.

  5. Nickofoz
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    Delay the posting of the daily article until there is a new page in the old one. We are trying to break a record 😀

  6. HVT
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Watch those airline prices rise!

  7. Can Newcastle Provide 15/16's Best Value Players?
    J0E
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    Fantasy Football Scout daily hot topic

    With price rises expected for Swansea, Southampton and some Stoke players the search for under priced players among mid table sides becomes harder. Could Newcastle under Steve McClaren be the answer. Tim Krul, Janmaat, Sissoko and whichever striker they buy could be the source of good value points next season? Do you agree or have you had enough of the St James's Park Shenanigans and prefer to bargain hunt among the promoted sides.

    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      If they buy Austin he'll come onto my radar. Janmaat may be worth a gamble if he's still 5.0 and Newcastle have good fixtures... I've got bad memories of their defence from last season though.

    2. Get up ya bum
      • 14 Years
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      I agree. If fixtures are nice I like janmaat at 5.0. Cisse if he's fit. That Dutch fella they are after has a fine record.

      1. Get up ya bum
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        Bas dost. Any good pompeyfan?

    3. Delhidynamo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      defo some Norwich attack players

    4. HVT
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I need the fixtures Jonty but I'm not opposed to Newc/Watford/Bournemouth/Norwich players we will need a few regardless to make up squads, it's Liverpool players that I have the problem with.

    5. Somalion
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      Not touching them with a barge pole until I see how they go.

    6. Nickofoz
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      Maybe Siem De Jong? Krul at 4.5 with decent fixtures could be alright

    7. Mr. Grv
      • 9 Years
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      Everton CB stones might be bargain if he is low priced and with this season he might be quite reasonably priced.

      1. J0E
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        I think he'll be 5.5m. Nailed on as well. If he's 5m then I'd consider him. I'll be keeping an eye on Coleman and Jagielka's prices as well. The key to stones will be how he is priced compared to his fellow Everton defenders.

    8. J0E
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      If Krul is 4.5 again he is hard to ignore. He's done really well the last few seasons as part of a cheap rotation, which is still my favoured GK tactic.

      If Krul is somehow upped to 5m then he becomes a no go zone.

    9. GreenWindmill
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      We'll see. I steered clear for the whole of last season but the prices will surely make some options tempting.

      1. J0E
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        Krul was a great option and I kick myself I didn't get Janmaat in. Daryl was in BGilmore's ultimate dead team and he was a frequent high scorer in my scout picks. I'm keen to see how Sissoko fits into MacClaren's system. He could be another bargain.

        1. GreenWindmill
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          Janmaat was perfect for the dead team as a result of extremely fortunate autosub timings, he'd be a different prospect if you owned him and were trying to guess when to play and when to bench (unless you're Mark in which case that kind of thing just drops in your lap every week 😉 )

          A fully fit de Jong would be an interesting prospect but I fear that may never happen.

    10. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'm a glutton for Newcastle punishment. I'll most likely be in again for Krul and/or Janmaat this time. If de Jong gets fit I'll probably have him at some point too!

    11. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I tell you what I would like: a season like the one we had when John Reeson won FPL and there plenty of uber defenders about so we didn't have to worrk about the likes of Ivan et al.

      I'd be in my element.

    12. The Hindu Monkey
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      Hard to make a case for any of their players in truth. Aaarons as a 5th mid maybe but he'll still probably come in at 5m and would rather have a 4.5m. Perez would be alright but plays wide forward. If McClaren moves him up top and starts him he could be a 3rd striker bargain.

      But then, Newcastle are awful so...

  8. Mr. Grv
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is McLaren nailed on ? Will be priced around 5 imo .
    😀

    1. Nickofoz
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      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      is Reus still better than Hazard?

      1. Mr. Grv
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yup

      2. HVT
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Not sure but it's a lovely airport tho just outside Barcelona!
        😉

    2. Business Dog
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Fitness an issue.

    3. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He's ok during summer, but once the rain comes in autumn its time to get shot of him. Nothing worse than seeing someone trying to put in cross or tackle while holding a golf umbrella. 😉

  9. @ocprodigy
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    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    If Liverpool sign Kovavic, Sterling is as good as gone.

    1. J0E
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling is as good as gone anyway as soon as someone starts waving 40-45m plus to Liverpool. They can afford to hold out, as while Sterling and his agent clearly want out...I get the impression that he will still put his all in so Liverpool hold the power in this potential deal.

    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      The lad wants to move onto bigger and better things. Can't believe he's getting chastised by everyone for having a bit of ambition, it's pathetic.

      He wants to go so I think he's good as gone regardless of what happens.

    3. internal error
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Kovacic is seen as a replacement for Gerrard. Can play CM, but also CAM or on the wing. Sterling is going regardless, probably for just over 40mil.

    4. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      They don't play the same position and Sterling is a goner anyway, don't think anything will change that.

  10. Lateriser 12
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    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Apart from Chelsea, which 5-6 teams are you looking at for defensive options? Any particular players?

    Stones and WBA being obvious contenders here.

    1. @ocprodigy
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      Leicester, Chelsea, WBA in my mind atm.

      1. Lateriser 12
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        Leicester because?

        1. @ocprodigy
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          They showed some great form and they'll be decently priced. I think they'll carry good form into next season now Pearson has figured it out.

    2. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Pulis, Koeman (if there are any 5.5s), Mourinho, Advocaat

      1. Lateriser 12
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        • 12 Years
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        Remember that crazy start to the season you had? 3 yrs ago? Also, i think i found you that grav.

        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yes, you did. I remember it well, oddly enough. 😀

          Was 8th overall around November. 😆

  11. Nickofoz
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    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Yep, Stones, West Ham, Dawson, Sunderland, Leicester, Swansea and maybe Bournemouth but it all depends on fixtures really

    1. Nickofoz
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      Rate that reply fail out of 10?

    2. Captain Shirokov
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      3, would have scored higher if the original post wasn't right above it.

      1. Captain Shirokov
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        Rate that reply fail to a reply fail out of 10?

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
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          8 out of 10 for the reply fail to the reply fail, if it were on another page with them going so slow it would have been off the scale.
          Anyone care to rate my reply fail to reply fail?

        2. Mr. Grv
          • 9 Years
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          3, would have scored higher if the original post
          wasn't right above it.

      2. Nickofoz
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        • 9 Years
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        I'll take it

  12. John t penguin
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    can't be too often a manager has failed in last four posts and gets a premier position

    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'd argue that he didn't really fail in his 2nd spell at FC Twente. a 6th place finish with a 48% win percentage. In hindsight it is now clear that the club was being very badly run behind the scenes too (they were docked 6 points this season for financial mismanagement)

  13. internal error
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is anyone considering Sterling if/when he joins City? How much will he cost?

    1. Business Dog
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I think 9.5m and I think I'd prefer to spend the extra 0.5m on Silva.

    2. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Probably 8.5-9 but I'd like to see how he settles in first before considering. Probably go for Silva or maybe just Kun depending on Copa America and fixtures.

      1. internal error
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        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        i think he starts with a bang.

  14. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I really hate how Sky Sports News read out Tweets from players or random fans as "news".

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      They should at least start all such "news" with a clause "some w*nker somewhere said...".

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'd really rather that, such utter nonsense.

  15. mikess
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    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Been offline and I get queried on this. I mentioned the other day that Busk was the number 1 for Denmark u21. His last name is Jensen and he's the correct Jensen who started all the qualifiers. They must have got their names muddled up

    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yep, there's a couple of us have clocked this - it will definitely feature in the article that Paul is putting together on the players to watch out for. Looks like a nice little mix up 🙂

      1. mikess
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        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Decent little find. Frees up funds

    2. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      good find... just realised this now

  16. Somalion
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Liverpool in talks to sign Joe Gomez from Charlton.

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Oh my, they're really starting to look like a force to be reckoned next season.

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        To be honest, Gomez is probably a one for the future and as such doesn't have to bolster their first XI now.

      2. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        But still, they must look really strong compared to other teams in the relegation battle next season.

        1. Somalion
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Play nice 😉

          Yeah, one for the future, no doubt. Will see what happens with it.

  17. Beavis
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    What are people's U-21 teams looking like?

    1. roscola
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      Like Chanel 9 from the Fast Show. I almost feel like I recognise the words, but actually they could mean anything.

      1. roscola
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        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWkmYraB3Rs

        If only Chris Waddle were playing ...

        1. GreenWindmill
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          😆

    2. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Craptacular.

  18. UEFA U21 - mids and fwd options
    roscola
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    U21 - The search for interesting low/mid-price midfielders

    So far I can only see Leitner of any interest in the 7m and below bracket. Masupost is apparently likely to keep his spot which makes him good value at 4.5 but I don't think anyone expects any actual attacking returns from him.

    Is there anyone else? Hopefully Paul will unearth some gems for us.

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Czech Republic's only forward, Kardec is it? I think he's only 6.5.

      1. roscola
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        Kadlec? He's a forward though and I'm loathe to drop my mega-premium frontline of Volland-Hoffman-Belotti

        Probably a wise move though.

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 10 Years
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          That's the one. I can't remember my forwards, I think it's Hofmann-Berahino-Berardi.

          1. roscola
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            I am tempted by Berahino over Volland. Saves 1.5m but I can't spend it anywhere that looks worthwhile (hence the question) and England's fixtures look tougher than Germany's.

            1. The Sarjeant
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I'd say they're quite the same, when looking at the defences from the qualifiers.

              England 12 Games 8 CS
              Germany 10 Games 7 CS
              Denmark 12 Games 6 CS
              Portugal 10 Games 5 CS
              Italy 10 Games 4 CS
              Serbia 10 Games 3 CS
              Sweden 10 Games 2 CS

              1. GreenWindmill
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                Quality of opposition comes into play though - I don't know the U-21 scene as well as I might but I'm guessing San Marino, Lithuania, Moldova et al don't have too much goal threat 😉

                1. The Sarjeant
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  I was pointing out more of Sweden's + Italy's poor defences - who England play against. Portugals bang in the middle.

                  Denmark did fairly well from Germany's group, but Serbia didn't. I don't quite know how well Czech Republic are though.

                  1. roscola
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                    From what I've read*, Italy's low CS count might be a bit of a red herring - they had a very tough qualifying group.

                    *not very much 🙂

                    1. The Sarjeant
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Ah right ok. I haven't looked into who they played. And even with taking out the obviously poor teams, I don't really know who the strong U21's are/aren't.

                      1. roscola
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                        It is a total lottery - which one article do you find first that sets your expectations 😆

                  2. GreenWindmill
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                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Ah fair enough, I'd clocked Sweden as potential whipping boys based on their qualification results - hard to gauge whether matches played in September 2013 have much relevance here though.

                    1. The Sarjeant
                      • 10 Years
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                      I didn't even know they went that far back lol!

                      1. GreenWindmill
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                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Yeah, the qualification process goes back a long way!

                        Here's my research on England's schedule for instance: http://i.imgur.com/2vibmcW.png

                        (numbers are the basic fantasy points that would have been awarded excluding trickier things like save points and winning/giving away penalties)

                  3. Konig Luther
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    portugal will have William Carvalho for U21, so he can help the defenders, but don't see many CS in that group, but i'm going with Raphael Guerreiro

                    1. The Sarjeant
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yeah, me too.

    2. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Ladislav Krejčí features regularly for the Czech seniors. Left winger at 5.5

      1. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Nice, ta!

    3. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Kadlec looks good value and nailed on.

      Leitner as well for Germany

      Denmark offers some good options - Thomsen and LV Christensen.

      Silva is a bit pricier for Portugal but pulls the strings apparently. Goals are likely to come through him.

      Redmond is a bit pricier but a good option.

      I've currently on the look out for another cheap mid so will be keeping a close eye on this thread.

      My mids are currently Lietner, Redmond, Thomsen, Silva, Khalili (but am on the look out for a replacement here)

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Kostić at 7.0 could be worth a look but I'm not pinning all my hopes and dreams on him.

      2. roscola
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I like Højberg for Denmark and a bit reluctant to double on them. Definitely in for Bernard Silva.

        But I had been ignoring Redmond. Maybe I'll look again, he did look great for Norwich a couple of years ago!

      3. TRIPPIER'S DAD
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Everything I read about Redmond is "no end product" and he has 1 assist in qualifying despite being a regular...not for me, thanks. Ward-Prowse looks better value

    4. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      i'm going with one of Krejčí/Khalili 5.5 and you can find Denmark players 7.5 (they look good

    5. mikess
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Oo I'm going with Poulson upfront too by the way. Scored the other day for seniors

  19. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Juventus manager Allegri said Pogba is for sale at the "right price".

    Chelsea's Oscar? I Love Him – Juventus Coach Massimiliano Allegri

    ---

    make some news out of it 🙂

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Oscar to Liverpool

  20. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Farcical throw-in led to Slovenia's goal. Not a right-back and on recent evidence not an international either. 3/10

    Lol 😀

    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      *BBC players ratings

  21. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Everton will pay 6M for Gerard Deulofeu (21), who will sign a 3+1 year deal. Buy-back options of 9M in 2016 and 12M in 2017. [sport]

    1. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Where did you hear that?
      An impressive youngster 2 years ago and must be better now.
      A good buy IMO.

  22. The Sarjeant
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    When's the deadline for the U21 game?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      2 days 5 hours

      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers.

  23. mikess
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Any insight into the Germany u21 right back? my research suggested Korb could get it

    1. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Stunning find if true! What makes you think that?

      1. mikess
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Seems to be the only natural rb in the squad. Decent season behind him and number 2 in squad list ha

        1. roscola
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Interesting. Didn't play the last qualifier, but I guess they had probably qualified by that point so maybe that doesn't mean anything.

    2. Nico.
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Emre Can plays right back for Germany U21 too, apparently.

  24. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Going on holiday tomorrow 😎

    Won't be able to play FU21 🙁 Probably for the best

    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      And give up your chances of winning either a Germany, Denmark or Sweden Jersey?

      1. Captain Shirokov
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I had to cancel my holidays in order to make sure I'd be around for the u21s.

  25. JÆKS ⭐
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Well, Jack Grealish had a good time in Tenerife 😀

  26. Egg noodle
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Hi guys,

    Anyone whose got 10-15 minutes free wanna have a look at my season ticker please?
    (The fixtures are obviously dummy fixtures)

    http://1drv.ms/1TmIH82

    I'm looking for inputs on whether any fixture difficulty classifications look incorrect (P.S. it is all based on last seasons home/away performances), or on how to make it look less confusing.

    Thanks

    1. Captain Shirokov
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Banter

  27. Dr Kenneth Noisewater
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    (Forgive my reposting, this place ain't as buzzing in the off-season for some reason...)

    Heading to Ascot on Wednesday - anyone follow racing here that can give me a heads up on any tips? Or a FFS-like site for the racing world?

    1. John t penguin
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      if you see an old woman that smells of corgi she knows some things, you should ask her

    2. Business Dog
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Put everything on Stacy Solomon to win.

      1. John t penguin
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        by a nose?

  28. S.Kuqi
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is fixture list announced on wednesday?

    1. Egg noodle
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yes 9AM Wednesday

      1. S.Kuqi
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers. Fpl season 15/16 starts then.

      2. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You must be keen as a bean 😀

  29. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    " Am told by someone who knows that Liverpool are not interested in Inter Milan's Mateo Kovacic."

    https://twitter.com/MirrorAnderson

    1. Licky
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I don't think that is true, a fee is agreed with Inter, there's still stuff to work out, however Inter are still shopping him around looking for a bigger fee, if they can sell Hernanes then they'll probably not sell Kovacic at all.

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        you got that from that site. I started looking at it after you recommended it. It looks like the Ed's are backtracking on their initial claim that it was a done deal.

        1. Licky
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I'm not sure what those issues were, I see things changed recently. :/ It sounds like the player doesn't want to move anyway so its hard to tell. But supposedly a fee is agreed.

          1. Licky
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            My guess is that Inter would accept what is on the table if it came to it.

      2. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Where are you getting the fee stuff, Licky? Because the only places I see it are tabloids, none of the reputable Italian journalists are reporting it and Kovacic himself has said he is staying.

        1. Licky
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          The journos didn't catch wind of it though.

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Hmm, I'd be surprised that someone like Di Marzio who deals heavily with Series A wouldn't know about it... Possible, of course, but he's usually on the ball.

            1. Licky
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Usually but he's hit and miss at times, this could be coming out of the Liverpool camp or have something to do with Inter not actually wanting to sell and the player not actually wanting to move, perhaps.

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I really don't know, have just been following it a little as it all started with a Croatian paper, then an ESPN reporter repeated what the paper said and has built from there.

                Kinda the only thing keeping my interest, transfer talk has been painfully dull the last few days. 🙂

        2. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          These are the latest quotes going round. He doesn't really rule a transfer out IMO

          “For now I’m still happy in Italy, but we’ll see about the future,”
          “Now I’m thinking about my holidays. I only know that I’m due back at Appiano Gentile on July 5.

          “That’s why I haven’t heard anyone from the club yet.

          “There’s no need for us to talk, I recently renewed my contract.

          “I’m not expecting any further notifications, but of course you never know with the transfer market."

          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I agree with you, he's certainly not ruling out a move at all. But it's odd he's saying such things if the deal has been done and dusted. But then that doesn't mean that Pool aren't in for him, of course.

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              The site Licky reads with apparent ITK's, said a deal was agreed a few days ago, but it doesn't look like Liverpool have even submitted a bid yet

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Yeah, there's just so much conflicting info that I think you're right to err on the side of caution.

            2. Licky
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              The site says Liverpool and Inter have a verbal agreement, I guess that means a fee is agreed but until Inter decide to sell it's a wait and see. The player may not want to burn bridges in case it doesn't go through.

              1. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                i'm new to the site, so i'm sceptical atm. They need to build up my trust. I've seen on twitter that they have been very reliable in the past, but were pretty inaccurate last season

                1. Licky
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Don't trust anyone I guess, but I trust them more than others. They could be getting bad info themselves mind.