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Scout Report – Jose Holebas

On July 2, Watford announced the signing of left-back Jose Holebas on a three year-deal from Roma. The Greek defender – who started 23 matches for i Giallorossi last term as they finished second in the Serie A – became the fourth new recruit at Vicarage Road this summer, following the capture of centre-back Sebastian Prodl, keeper Giedrius Arlauskis and forward Matej Vydra.

When the move was announced, it seemed that Holebas – as explained in an interview with the Italian press – was caught unaware after both clubs went public with the deal without his knowledge:

“They arranged my transfer without asking me. I haven’t signed anything yet, I have to see the contract first. I don’t know why this has happened, I know that both Roma and Watford announced my transfer, but they’d have to talk to my representatives first. I never said I wanted to leave Roma. I’ll sign after first agreeing to the terms of the contract. I can’t understand what’s happened, I came back from my holiday in Dubai, and everyone started telling me my transfer had been officially announced. I’m in Germany right now, how could I sign a contract?”

The History

After learning his trade at four local non-professional youth teams, the Germany-born Holebas teamed up with sixth division side Viktoria Kahl. Operating as striker, Holebas netted 15 goals in 33 outings, prompting a move to second division side 1860 Munich prior to the start of the 2006/7 campaign.

Holebas made his breakthrough into the senior side the following term, producing two goals and three assists across 19 appearances. At this point, the Greece international was still being deployed as a forward (either on the left flank or in a central berth) and this would continue until manager Ewald Linen shifted him to left wing-back at the start of the 2009/10 campaign. In all, Holebas amassed seven goals and eight assists in 74 league outings for 1860 Munich.

Holebas then followed Lienen to Olympiakos in the summer of 2010. Despite flattering to deceive in the first half of the season, the versatile wide man established himself as a regular starter and went on to tally one goal and an assist in 24 appearances. Over the course of his four-season spell with The Legend, Holebas chalked up nine goals and 17 assists, with his attacking output in the 2012/13 campaign (four goals and eight assists) sticking out as a highlight.

Roma snapped Holebas up on a three-year deal in August 2014, placing him in direct competition with ex-Chelsea left-back Ashley Cole. Ultimately, Holebas came out on top in this contest, earning 23 starts (one goal and assist) to Cole’s 11.

By way of being born in Germany and possessing a Greek-Uruguayan heritage, Holebas was eligible to play for all three nations but chose to represent Greece on the international stage. He featured in all of Greece’s match-ups in the 2014 World Cup and to date has recorded one goal and three assists in 27 appearances.

The Prospects

Holebas has yet to start in Watford’s two pre-season matches so far, which have seen new boss Quique Sanchez Flores roll out a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Ikechi Anya fielded at left-back. The Greek international was afforded 15 minutes off the bench in the weekend draw with Wimbledon and is expected to nail down a regular role once he improves his match sharpness.

Looking at his attacking numbers from last season, Holebas produced a total of 19 attempts on goal and 19 key passes in Serie A – an average of 108.1 minutes for both. Compared to Premier League defenders with 1000+ minutes in 2014/15, that places him ninth (Danny Rose was eighth) for shots and sixteenth (Aaron Cresswell was fifteenth) for key passes.

Like the rest of the Hornets’ likely defensive starters, Holebas comes in at 4.5 in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game. A change in the BPS scoring, which is expected to favour central defenders, may persuade some to consider new boy Sebastian Prodl or Gabriele Angell instead, though. The six foot six inches-tall Prodl netted three times in 19 starts in the previous Bundesliga campaign – consequently averaging a goal at a greater frequency (every 581 minutes) than all Premier League defenders bar Chris Smalling (every 495 minutes) last term. Angell, who’s recorded nine goals (including two braces) and seven assists in his two seasons with the Hornets, fashioned the most shots (24) of any Watford defender last time out. Meanwhile, first choice right-back, Juan Carlos Paredes, chalked up four assists, yet his limited goal threat somewhat tempers our appeal.

Elsewhere at the back, the Hertfordshire club’s recruitment of Steaua Bucharest shot-stopper Giedrius Arlauskis places uncertainty over Heurelho Gomes’ starting berth for the season ahead. Watford conceded the fifth lowest number of goals (50) last season – though given they managed just 15 clean sheets (eight at home) – whoever wins the number one jersey may have to rely on save points to boost their Fantasy potential.

Watford embark on a fairly difficult start to the new campaign which may ultimately deter initial investors. Trips to Everton and United in the first five, allied with visits from West Brom, Southampton and Swansea, suggest it’s perhaps best to hold fire with our plans until the schedule takes a turn for the better around Gameweek 6.

Nonetheless, Flores’ side do rotate home and away with Bournemouth over the 38 Gameweeks and with a decent run (AVL, WBA, SOT, LEI, SWA, SUN, CPL, WAT) over the opening eight rounds of fixtures, they could appeal to those looking for a 9.0 defensive pairing in their five-man backlines.

Further Reference

Jose Holebas Wikipedia Page

Jose Holebas Transfer Markt Page

Jose Holebas YouTube Highlights

2,942 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Eze Really?
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    I see Lloris injured. Does this have anything to do with a possible move?

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It's a real injury, broken wrist

    2. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      It seems uncanny but its probably true

      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        The injury that is

        1. Eze Really?
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Maybe, but he went to training with the problem.

  2. icywrists23
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    TOT is going to be a good team to target for attacking ?

    that team is a mess defensively and with lloris missing the start of the season... thats whooping season.

  3. The Man Pastore
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Pick one:

    A) Azpi / Hazard / Kane

    Or

    B) Ivan / Fab / Costa

    I have Aguero in at the moment until we have some news for GW1

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      similar dilemma.

      Currently with A but might be swayed to B.

    2. Canadian Football
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Can lightning strike 3 times? Ivan has scored in 3 straight opening fixtures i think.

      1. The Man Pastore
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I am currently on B. Aguero out for a couple of GW would make the things easier..

  4. Canadian Football
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone know how long Foster will be out ? I heard that it would be at least October. If true, a nailed on Pulis GK (Myhill) for 8-10 weeks priced @ 4.5 is a bargain, especially when you can pair him with a non-playing 4.0.

    1. Canadian Football
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Or even pair him with Guzan, their fixtures rotate perfectly Then if/when Forster comes back, you can limp to your first half WC with him.

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      No idea.

      I agree with you, but don;t let Doos see this. He doesn't think WBA defence is a good pick from the start.

      1. Canadian Football
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        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I love Doosra, but that is madness. When has a Pulis team ever not performed? He even brought back CPL from certain relegation and conceding 2+ goals a game to a respectable squad by seasons end.

        1. Canadian Football
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          When has a Pulis team ever not performed *defensively*

        2. Ryan
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          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Pulis is the ultimate fix it manager. Has a reputation now of saving teams from relegation.

          1. Canadian Football
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            because he plays simple football with limited talent and gets them to buy into a defensive system.

            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Exactly. Its much easier to defend than score goals and look pretty

          2. Canadian Football
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            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            12 CS in all competitions since joining WBA in January 2015

            1. Ryan
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              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Incredible stuff. Even though I'd like to get Myhill the problem remains of having to transfer him out when Foster returns

        3. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Yeah, Pulis is now a well-respected guy in the game, especially by us FPL addicts 😉

          I can see that their fixtures are not the best (tricky home games inthe first 2 months), nevertheless a go at Myhill is not the worst strategy after all.

    3. the cromulent one
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Knee injuries tend to take longer than expected to recover from, too. That may be less true for gks, though.

    4. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Opening fixtures are pretty poor. Chelsea and City in the first 3 games. Thas holding me back a bit, considering Fosters return there will be a limited window where Myhill is useful

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        looks awseom GW6 onwards though

    5. icywrists23
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      thats what I'm doing exactly. Myhill/Rudd..playing Myhill every week.. no need for rotation debates and benching CS headaches

  5. the cromulent one
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    So who is the Stoke #1 gk? I would have assumed Butland, but they have signed two other keepers.

    1. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I understand Butland was being groomed to take over the main role at the end of last season. There might even be quotes on that.

      1. the cromulent one
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks. Preseason should make things clearer, in any case.

  6. BeachBadger
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone thought about a power 3 strike force? Aguero Rooney Costa Doable with a few cheapo mids round 7m mark like Ritchie, Cabaybe, Henderson etc. and an 8.5 like Ozil/Depay etc.

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Not me. Think there'll be massive value with strikers like Sakho, Kane or Benteke.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Surely one of them will come good alright but which one though?

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Tempted with Sakho and Kane.

          Kane might be affected by SSS though, I'm torn between him or Chadli.

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Im worried about that myself. And he is pretty priceySahko and Benteke in my current drafts

    2. Kane Toads
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      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      My front 8:

      Haz,Ramsey,Hendo,Mane (Wanyama )
      Aguero,Kane,Deeney

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Pretty similar to mine in terms of spending. I was just pondering on what if you went big. Cut out all the nonsense of dealing with dodgy strikers and have all the big captaincy choices

        1. Kane Toads
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Go big up front for GW1 and pull out the "attack chip"? Might be able to get ahead of the rest!

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Only probelm there is you wont have the funds for a decent 5m for the chip. Better off spreading the cash for the chip then get a get 5th mid and upgrade your other players

        2. Kane Toads
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          It would require cheap mids to free up cash for the attackers and Wildcard early. Risky but could bring rewards.

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            True. Im very tempted to play this All out attack chip early now and GW GW4

            1. Kane Toads
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              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              GW4 seems like a popular GW for the wildcard. I must have a look at the Ticker to see matches around then.

              1. BeachBadger
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Co insides with international break and end of the transfer window so usually a good move. In the past was good for building team value too but seems lessened now due to WCs not counting to transfers

    3. the cromulent one
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The ARC!
      It has crossed my mind. But I think it closes the door on too many good midfield options.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah ultimately I think it does alright. Sure looks pretty though. Imagine all three firing on all cylinders

  7. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Still unsure about this new All Out Attack chip.

    I know once the chip is played, the chip will not be returned. but if we use the All Out Attack chip to select a 2-5-3 formation and a midfielder or a forward doesn't play, will a defender come in as a sub (and play 3-4-3 accordingly) or will we get a big fat 0 from the missing player?

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Im guessing you will get a defender in. But I think the point would be why play all out attack without having a nailled on front 8 lol

    2. Marknlard
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      My guess is that subs will work as usual but it does have the risk of backfiring.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Inded. The Rules section is not helpful enough imo

        http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/

  8. Van Klinkert Delarosa
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone know any site that provide a positional map for players?

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The members section here does if I understand correctly what youre looking for.

      1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Ta.

        Another reason to become a member then.

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Indeed. I actually dont use that many stats bar the ticker but there is a wealth of info there. for those who are inclined to make use of it

  9. The_Kane_Train
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hey guys, backline concerns me any ideas?

    Speroni (Hamer)

    Azpi - Mertesacker - Huth (Distin, Dawson)

    Depay - Wanyama - Fabregas - Cazorla (Payet)

    Kane - Aguero - Deeney

  10. theBoose
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    give us your best DZ..

    schmeichel
    azpilicueta . koscielny . morgan
    redmond . özil . hazard . ritchie . mata
    rooney . benteke

    butland . deeney . matthews . williams

    looking at playing the wildcard after gameweek 4. all thoughts are appreciated.

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Redmond sure is an interesting choice. Team looks good. Considering SOuthampton given their good early fixtures?

  11. BeachBadger
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Going without Azpi initially and playing my All out attack chip GW1 seeming more like a good idea to me now.

    Pros:

    1) Can get off to a good start
    2) Can have a better knowledge of which mid to downgrade
    3) Early WC GW4 so if it backfires wont kill my team
    4) Defenders not huge scores so unlikely to be burned too badly, though could reap the rewards of having a decent mid hit form

    Cons:

    1) Lose a chip which could potentially come good later when people are more informed about the pros and cons of using it
    2) Potentially forcing an early transfer on defense
    3) May tie up funds making it harder to get the 'must have player' GW2 without ditching a player I'd prob want to keep

    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      4) Unpredictability of gw1 line-ups increases the chance that you're wasting a chip

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Excellent point that

        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          I considered the bench chip gw1 for that very reason, but ultimately the same problem applies. That's what autosubs are for. I think better to use chips judiciously, like wildcards, when the opportunity or need arises.

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Theres that but now I've just thought of one more Pro. You're never gonna get the chance again to set yourself up for this chip. it will take a lot of effort to organise the players and plans with limited appeal. Unless of course your team has a lot of defensive injuries come Christmas it may not be needed at all.

      2. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Could set up for the chip GW2 I suppose. Bit of a failsafe there just in case.

    2. the cromulent one
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      The thought courted to me, too. But I think that the cons outweigh the pros. If it forces you into a -4 for gw2, then it is really not worth it.
      The more I think about it, it is a throwaway chip. The odds are decent that the all-out-attack will be of no benefit in most cases.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        True but the thought of a -4 is still pretty slim if you're WCing early. I think it just more forces your hand to WC if it backfires lol

        1. Kane Toads
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          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Sure does!

    3. A La Pelle
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Someone also pointed out that you could use the AOA chip in the late GWs, when your TV is (usually) higher. Also that statistically teams score more at the very end of the season.

      Having said that, out of the 3 chips I'd say it's the one with the least impact.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Thats true too. Could be great GW38 the problem would be shifting the cash to the front seven. Reckon most WCs will be set out with the other chips in mind

        1. A La Pelle
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Definitely. I'll probably end up using the other 2 for DGWs. And this one simply when I get a gut feeling! Or out of frustration..... 😀

  12. teddy.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Morning DZ:

    Here's my first RMT of the year

    4.5 + 4.5 (thinking Ruddy + Boruc/Butland)
    Ivanovic Huth Ward Bassong Richards
    Hazard Walcott Henderson Mane Kouyate
    Rooney Giroud Defoe

    The thinking is as follows:

    Four cheap defenders who all have plenty of pitchtime and some potential at both ends of the pitch. Working in two strong rotation pairings - Leicester/Palace and Norwich/Villa.

    Then four mids and two strikers I can play every game with Defoe and Kouyate rotating neatly as my seventh attacker.

    The Defoe / Kouyate combo gives the following fixtures:

    lei (D)
    NOR (D) LEI (K)
    SWA (D) BOU (K)
    avl (D)
    TOT (D) NEW (K)
    bou (D)
    NOR (K)
    WHM (D) sun (K)
    wba (D) cpl (K)
    NEW (D)
    wat (K)
    EVE (K)
    cpl (D)

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I like your team. Not sure of the rotating Attackers though.

      1. the cromulent one
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        This.

        1. teddy.
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          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Actually looking at my sequence it's primarily about Defoe. Note that he plays three former clubs in his first eight gameweeks: TOT bou WHM.

    2. TorresMagic™
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      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Huth wasn't in your 1st one. 😛

      1. teddy.
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        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Well spotted. v1.1

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Nice fixtures for your 7th attacker, worried that fixtures may not be enough for them.

          1. teddy.
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            • 14 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah, well I'll probably tear it up by gw3, but there's some logic there.

            There are some other similar cheap attacking combos I considered, but the more promising players have less promising fixtures and vice versa.

            1. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Nice pick. I might no with Noble as my 5th mid 🙂

  13. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Do people expect Norwich to keep many CS...many going for Ruddy

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Im not expecting much from them. But they have really good opening fixtures. Im hoping that what been true of keepers remains such in that theyre never far off the points of the others so doesnt warrant much investment

      1. teddy.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Indeed. And he's proven to be a good keeper in the past, with some penalty saving skill as I recall.

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          A penalty save would be typical. Have everyone on here raging lol

    2. the cromulent one
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Below average team with above average goalkeeper. Recipe for save points, if nothing else.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        The new Panti?

    3. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I am normally all over the cheap keepers. The Norwich or LEI 4.5/40 combos appeal greatly.

      Currently though i am on Mingolet for 5.0. Have not great faith in Pool defence but will always start, still get some save points and was 2nd (?) highest scoring gk last year.

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Tempted by Migs myself esp with the price reduction but I think I will stick with the cheapos lol

        1. Joggers Nipple
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Im sure i will go back to cheapies eventually!

          I dont like gk rotation. to me its-

          4.5 and 4.0
          vs
          5.0 and 4.0

          the 4.5 and 4.5 combo always works badly for me.

          1. BeachBadger
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            I usually like rotation mainly cos I feel powerless when my cheapo comes up against Chelsea or someone and I have no exit strategy lol But Norwich up to GW10 look pretty decent

  14. t3mme
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Pick one:

    A) Mata - Sakho

    or

    B) Cabaye - Lukaku/Benteke

    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Mata sakho for me

  15. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Looking forward to some healthy discussion today.

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Welcome back LR. Excited to be back in the fold?

    2. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Long time my friend, you back for the new season?

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A good discussion for you - Giroud or Walcott? 😉

  16. FootballFanatic365
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    4.5 mids

    Any shoutouts lads?

    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Wanyama

    2. vice
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Bentaleb, low ownership so more likely to avoid price drops

      1. BeachBadger
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        My current 5th mid too. Wanyama has far too many followers

      2. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Good point. I may look at Fletcher too

    3. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Gareth Barry

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      NABIL Bentaleb or Mulumbu

      1. Eboue
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        NABIL

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          yep? 😛

    5. FootballFanatic365
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks everybody

  17. vice
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Pretty sure I'll be rolling with a front 7 of

    Fabregas Walcott Mata Yaya
    Costa Rooney Deeney

    and managed to get nailed-on defenders from Chelsea, Arsenal, Southampton, Sunderland and Leicester as well. 😎

    1. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Pretty similar to what Im going with though I spent a bit less in defence and got Haz

      1. vice
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Fair enough, I'm only planning short-term though as I will WC GW4 and see more value in a strong defence than spending the extra 2.5m on Hazard over Fabregas (who I think will do at least as good as Haz in the beginning)

        1. BeachBadger
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Good point. Im actually planning WC early myself which is why I deemed having an exp chelsea defender not all that necessary esp facing City GW2

    2. Trovsmash
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      very similar to mine 🙂

    3. kmdarcy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Fabianski (Hamer)
      Jags Azil Mert (Morgan, Bassong)
      Mata Hend Fabregas Ramsey Toure
      Lukaku Kane (Deeney)

      Thoughts?

      1. vice
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Don't like Jagielka and having that much money on the bench. Don't think Kane is a very good pick at 9m either.

        1. kmdarcy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          The bench is cheap. Jags is to start with Williams (SWA) or Shawcross (STK) for maybe later. Tinkering with midfield depth vs. Aguero or Hazard $

    4. Eboue
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Hazard possibly the only sure thing in the game.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Not necessarily from the start

      2. vice
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Really can't say that with Fab's starting record and him costing 2.5m less than Hazard

        1. Eboue
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Fab is anything but a sure thing with the changes to the BAPs.

  18. Eboue
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Really like the look of this team...

    Cech Rudd
    Ivan Darmian Clyne Lescott Francis
    Hazard Walcott Henderson Ritchie Anya
    Rooney Lukaku Sakho

    1. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Not keen on the promoted club cheapies myself.

  19. RichRover
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Quite a few people seem to be planning to wildcard week 4. Just wondering why? Is is simply a matter of 'by then we'll know who's playing where ect'?

    1. Eboue
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      International break, transfer window closed, chance to make some pennies, much more insight as you say, etc etc...

      1. vice
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Most importantly new WC rules who facilitate it even more this season

      2. vice
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Plus much easier to start without Sanchez and Aguero and not worry about taking hits or leaving cash ITB in the first GWs to get them in

    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Yeah, that and early price rises from early bandwagons boosting team value. That's the usual logic.

    3. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Can't keep past new year, lots of info by 1st international break and price increases

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      what they said. But I still believe pre-planning on the use of your WC is a bad strategy.

      1. The Suspended One
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Agreed

  20. The Suspended One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Kane or Rooney

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Both or Roo & Chadli

      1. Stykes
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Do you think Chadli is nailed on?

    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Rooney. Proven.

      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Kane not proven with 20+ goals in his first full season?

        1. teddy.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Statistically improbable that he can repeat it. Especially as that wasn't even maintained over the full season.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            He's playing the same teams and mostly the same defenders. I'm sure he can get 15+ again this season.

            1. teddy.
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Yeah, that may be true. 🙂

              Reversion to the mean though.

            2. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              You think Kane is worth the 2.5 mil over Chadli, Acqua?

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Not sure. I'm not going with any Spurs options from the start, I don't think.

                Chadli probably better value, but Kane will do decently methinks.

                1. Acquafresca
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  The problem is Chadli was constantly rotated in and out of the team.

                  1. NABIL - FPL otai
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    Yeah, that's the problem. But if TOT don't sign another left winger/forward I think he'll prove to be a very good prospect and value.

                    1. Acquafresca
                      • 12 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      I'm on Hendo over him. Looks great value at 7.0 if he's on set pieces and PKs.

                      1. NABIL - FPL otai
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        He should be.

                        It's Haz - Hendo - Kane or Fab - Chadli - Costa for me atm. Which one you think is better?

  21. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    What's the price for Ogbonna will be?

    If he's 5.0, people think Cresswell is worth the extra 0.5?

    1. Stykes
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He could well be, but I have such difficulty not going for the cheapest nailed on defender in a team!

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Same dilemma. I believe I will get a WHU defender, will be torn between the two.

    2. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Opening fixture against Arsenal is putting me off any West Ham for GW1.
      Getting Sakho and benching him W1. I am rotating Ritchie Deeney thereafter.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I will rotate WHU & Francis.

        Possibly Skaho and Ritchie too 😉

  22. Eze Really?
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone concerned about reports on Ozil being unsettled at Arsenal. I picked him thinking he will get No 10 due to previous reports. My second choice (Wally) means I will have to change another team member.

    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      What about Ramsey as a straight swap?

      1. Eze Really?
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        It is a thought.

    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I'm going with Walcott so I can easily swap to Ozil / Cazorla / Ramsey / Wilshere if necessary

      1. Eze Really?
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        This, but involves other changes.

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I do. Nevertheless I think he will be key component in our attack this season. Currently I'm with Ozil, but might change to Wally depending on Community Shield performance.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        From Arsenal fans point of view. Ozil is a cool pick. I don't like the rumors though.

  23. Stykes
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Heya everyone. I've iterated a bit, and would really appreciate your thoughts on this bunch!

    Courtois / 4.0

    Merte / Moreno / Williams / Coates / Morgan

    Silva / Firmino / Walcott / Richie / 4.5

    Costa / Rooney / Sakho

    > A definite concern is Courtois+Moreno VS Myhill+Azpi... Gut is feeling Courtois, but my head tells me that Azpi could be on for some BPS with his tackling, and Myhill saves more, so maybe that's the thinking man's choice? Unsure.

  24. Eboue
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Why is everyone ignoring Cech? Bizarre. Best way into the Arse defense by a distance.

    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      He's a decent pick but you can also go for two 4.5 GKs and get Mert for the same price.

      1. Eboue
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Mert isn't even nailed though. Only Kos is. And he misses lots of matches due to his achilles.

        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Mert isn't nailed? Whatever you say. lol.

          He will start every game when fit.

          1. Eboue
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Gabriel will spell him. Just you watch.

            1. Acquafresca
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Not going to happen unless Mert gets injured.

              1. Eboue
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Which is also very likely. We shall see. I think you're overrating Mert quite a bit.

                1. Acquafresca
                  • 12 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Not overrating him, just saying he's a decent option in the same price bracket as Cech.

    2. Stykes
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Why do you say so?

      My reasoning is simply that I can get Merte for 5.5, but the Chelsea defenders start at 6.0 for Azpi (who isn't completely nailed) while Courtois rolls with a 5.5 price tag.

      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Azpi is nailed. Don't spread rubbish.

        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          The only times he didn't play:

          1) injury
          2) red card
          3) Chelsea already won the title.

          1. Eze Really?
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Was rested Christmas time or given a prolonged break for Luis to get a run. He bis Mourinho's favorite though.

          2. vice
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Agree, Mert & Azpi completely nailed on in my opinion

            1. Acquafresca
              • 12 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Some people here tinker to the point where they outthink themselves...

        2. Stykes
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Whoah, steady there.

          I simply said 'not completely nailed' because I cannot ignore the Luis threat. He is a pretty certain starter though, sure.

    3. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      When Courtois/Hart/De Gea all same price, there will be a spread. Kosi is a good call and 2 Arsenal will put people off.

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I believe 4.5/5.0 keepers with lots of potential for save points are better value.

      With Mert (same price) or Kos you will get that added slight attacking threat.

      1. Eboue
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        I fancy Cech to rack up save points and net more cleanies than any other 5m option. And as I said above I think Mert will sit now and again.

        1. Eze Really?
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          The trouble is though he is 5.5

        2. Stykes
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Maybe, but he is 5.5? That puts him up versus the likes of Courtois, not directly against GKs for bottom half teams.

          1. Eboue
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Much better option than Courtois.

            1. Stykes
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              You can't just drop that like I'm stupid - provide some backup for this?

              > Courtois will at least match Cech for clean sheets, you'd imagine
              > Merte provides an alternative into the Ars defence for 5.5
              > Granted, Cech will probably make more saves but in return probably keep less CSs.

              Now, hit me?

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                He already hit you, with that ignorant comment 😉

                1. Eboue
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Ok go away now.

                  1. Acquafresca
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    Sorry you can't just claim something so ridiculous and not back it up.

                    Cech and Courtois will have similar returns over the season, as they both have formidable defences that don't let many shots through.

                    1. Eboue
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      You need to go look at the stats guy. You're the one coming off ridiculous. Not that I care. Keep talking shite and making the wrong decisions. At least I know I have one less player to worry about. Bye now.

                      1. Stykes
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        I agree that there's some unnecessary aggression, but really, what stats? How many saves Arsenal GKs make compared to Che ones? And how many CSs Che keep versus how many Ars do?

                        Because Chelsea kept 17 CSs versus Ars's 11, and I doubt Cech's saves will make up the difference. And this is before even taking the 5.5 Merte option into consideration!

                        So I fail to see how Cech is obviously superior to Courtois as an FPL choice.

                      2. Eboue
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        1. Most importantly, quality. Cech is a much better keeper right now. Keep in mind he was in goal for a few of those cleanies. In fact he kept a CS in every match he started last season, playing flawlessly while mistakes from Courtois cost Chelsea a few goals.

                        2. Save potential. Cech will be afforded many more opportunites to rack up save points.

                        3. Regression to the mean. Chelsea rode their luck quite a few times last season defensively. There will be some regression.

                      3. oghash
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        Can't disagree with that logic. Cech is quality all around and you can be damn sure he intends to show he's still the best Pl keeper.

                        Nothing more satisfying than sticking 2 fingers up to the old boss that thought you wasn't quite up to it.

                      4. Stykes
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        Cheers for the reply Eboue - some food for thought!

        3. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Seriously? His 1 or 2 saves will give ARS the edge to get more points than last season, but I doubt it will serve us any purpose in FPL. More cleanies I can agree, but the likes of Fabiansi, Panti or Adrian can get lots and lots of cleanies too I'd imagine.

          Mert will sit now and again? Not on my books.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            It's quite a funny crowd on here today Nabil. Mert and Azpi suddenly not assured starters. LOL

            1. Stykes
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Jebus, hinting that Azpi wasn't completely nailed while Luis is there really is only so ridiculous.

              I agree with your Merte assertion, mind.

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Come on, Luis is 100% backup, never a threat to start over Azpi unless injured, suspended, etc.

                1. Stykes
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  I agree that Azpi is first choice, but don't you think there is any threat of rotation? He played less than 2500 minutes. My memory on this is patchy, but was he injured for that long?

                  Although I guess there is no need for rotation at the start of the season, and overthinking is definitely a habit in these parts (myself included here).

                  1. Acquafresca
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    injured, picked up a red card, and was rested near the end when the league was wrapped up.

                    1. Stykes
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      Fair enough.

            2. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Funny thoughts indeed. Unless they know something we don't know, like ARS sign another CB or Filipe Luis is suddenly 1st choice.

            3. Eboue
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              You won't be LOLing in a few weeks' time.

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                I watch every Arsenal game. There is absolutely 0% chance Mert gets dropped for Gabriel unless he's injured, suspended, or dead.

                1. Eboue
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  🙄

  25. Koflok
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone considering Mane?

    He's in an awkward price position at 8m but the threat and fixture are there

    1. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      If he were 7 I would jump for him. Will compete a little with J Rod.

    2. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Definitely

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Very good pick but too pricey at 8.5. Better add 0.5 and get and another ARS mid/ YYT at that price.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        *8.0

    4. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Overpriced.

  26. Eze Really?
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    With Azpi, Kosi, Cedric, Francis in my team, can I afford a punt on Kolorov.
    I know he is 5.5 but if he gets rotated I do have a good back up. He scores big when he plays.

    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      That back line is way too expensive already. Nay

      1. Eze Really?
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        My team bearing in mind rotating Ritchie and Deeney.

        Azpi Kosi Targett Kolorov Francis. (Changed now)
        Ozil Silva Haz Cabaye Riychie
        Rooney Sakho Deeney.

        Could I do it now?

        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Why are you rotating two promoted players? Just get a solid 3rd striker and swap Kolarov to a 4.0 defender.

          The attackers are where the majority of the points are at.

          1. Acquafresca
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 10 months ago

            Ritchie or Cabaye > 4.5 mid fodder.
            Deeney > decent 3rd striker
            Kolarov > 4.0

            1. Eze Really?
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              I do that normally, but got caught in the past players not playing. With new rules, I don't want too many changes for all players playing.

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Just pick guaranteed starters. I'm not into rotating attacking players. That's asking for points on your bench.

                1. Eze Really?
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Yeah it is a mil on the bench. I am contemplating ATM.

            2. NABIL - FPL otai
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 10 months ago

              Not a fan of Ritchie? I'm crazily thinking of rotating him with Sakho or even a 2nd WHU attacker...

              1. Acquafresca
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                Ritchie is a huge risk. We saw Taraabt with similar stats years back and flopped big time in the Prem.

                Nevertheless he's a decent option to start with.

                1. Eze Really?
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Thanks for the advice. I just don't have love for many strikers this year at those mid prices. Even contemplating playing 3 5 2 to start. Transfers will be taken up getting Aguero Wk 3 and sacrificing a mid.

                2. NABIL - FPL otai
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  Taarabt was a special case. No one will be like him.

                  Ritchie has some fixtures + set pieces in him. Best if people get him and save some $ itb.

                  1. Acquafresca
                    • 12 Years
                    8 years, 10 months ago

                    He could be a good shout, but I'm on Hendo as my 4th mid atm. No space for Ritchie

                    1. NABIL - FPL otai
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 10 months ago

                      Curently I'm with Haz ARS Hendo Ritchie 4.5. That'll be my mid if I follow the structure.

                      Who's your 3rd mid?

                      1. Acquafresca
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        Will most likely be: Fab, ARS, 8.5, Hendo.

                      2. NABIL - FPL otai
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 10 months ago

                        I see. Going with Costa too?

              2. Eze Really?
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 10 months ago

                I am rotating with Deeney. But things can change.

                1. NABIL - FPL otai
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 10 months ago

                  I might rotate with Noble/Kouyate 😆

  27. aabb
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    A) Ozil, Depay, Costa
    or
    B) Sanchez, Henderson, Rooney

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      B but start with Ozil/Wally

  28. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Which one is better?

    A. Haz - Hendo - Kane

    B. Fab - Chadli - Costa

    1. Joe
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      A long term definitely, though Fab and Costa will probably have good starts to the season.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        That's the big dilemma

    2. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Anyone with Haz IMO. The 2.5 gap with Fab has merits for change though. I am getting Haz for Captain potential until Aguero back.

  29. Sz21
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Hi all,
    My 1st proper Draft.

    Fabianski, Schmeichel
    Toby, PVA, Mings, Skrtel, Morgan
    Albrighton, Hendo, Mata, Ozil, Hazard
    Giroud, Rooney, Murray..

    0.0m in account..

    Take this apart please.
    Pleased with my Mids..
    Think I may need to change a defender or 2.

    Already have the Lei/Swan Rotation..
    Who else should I squeeze in..

    1. Stykes
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      I don't like the defense at all, bar Morgan and MAYBE Skrtel, for a quick 2c. PVA is overpriced IMO, and Toby will be bad value at Tot, especially with Lloris out (not that Vorm is bad, to be fair to him).

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Popular GK combo but I see bench points and a bit pricey. I'd prefer 4.5/5.0 and a non-starter.

      Not sold on Mings. Probably Skrtel too. Toby is still enigmatic, he's quality but not sure he alone can improve TOT rubbish defending. I wouldn't double up LEI defense not knowing who the manager is.

      Nice mid. Not sold on Murray

      1. Sz21
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Ranieri will be the Leicester Manager..
        Either way- Double Leic Defence is a bit much alright.

        1. Eze Really?
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          An absolute failure in recent times. I worry for Leicester.

        2. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 10 months ago

          Oh, missed the news. The tinkerman has returned!

          Hmm, alright then. Good luck

    3. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      Trick fixtures for Pool.
      Good home but crap away.
      I will do a Pool defender when I know more.

  30. Vaya Toure
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 10 months ago

    Pick one:

    A: Cedric-Kos-Ivanovic-Francis
    Haz- Ozil-Henderson-Ritchie

    OR

    B: Cedric-Kos-Ivanovic-Morgan
    Haz- Ozil-Henderson-Dawson

    Thanks

    1. Eze Really?
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 10 months ago

      i prefer A. Concerns over Hendo/Milner combo. Who will play the most advanced pos?

      1. Vaya Toure
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 10 months ago

        Very good point. Thanks