Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Last 16 – Day 1

Portugal failed to win in 90 minutes for the fourth match running but still saw off the much-fancied Croatians, while Wales beat Northern Ireland in a match of few highs and a desperate low for Gareth McAuley.

And Poland kicked off the knock-out stages with a penalty shoot-out win over the unlucky Swiss on a day when drama and heartache were in rather more evidence than quality and excitement.

Switzerland 1 Poland 1 (Poland win 5-4 on penalties)

The first knock-out match of Euro 2016 became the first to go to extra time and then on to penalties, with Poland finally prevailing after new Arsenal signing Granit Xhaka blasted well wide.

It was harsh on the Swiss, who battled back from a goal down to dominate the second half and extra time.

Jakub Blaszczykowski (7.0) grabbed his second goal in as many matches to open the scoring in the first half, the assist coming from Kamil Grosicki (6.9).

Switzerland improved hugely after the break and deservedly equalised – in spectacular fashion – with eight minutes to go when Xherdan Shaqiri acrobatically volleyed home from the edge of the area.

It was the first goal Poland had conceded in the tournament, and they were lucky not to ship more, Lukasz Fabianski (6.0) making superb saves from Ricardo Rodriguez and Eren Derdiyok.

Poland didn’t have an attempt on target after the 53rd minute as Switzerland dominated, but for a match involving two of the tournament’s tightest defences – and even factoring in an extra 30 minutes – the shot count was high: 29 to 20 in Switzerland’s favour.

Full-back Rodriguez was the match’s busiest man, with six attempts (two on target), 10 crosses and five chances created, while Shaqiri was the most influential, with three (two), 15 and three respectively.

As for the Poles, Robert Lewandowski’s (11.5) travails up front continued, although he managed a personal tournament-best four attempts, while his fellow striker Arkadiusz Milik (7.5) – with 8% Uefa game ownership a more popular pick than the Bayern Munich man – had five shots, but lacked both quality and conviction.

Blaszczykowski remains the side’s most consistent points provider.

So the Swiss go home, and unless Poland pick up the pace and intensity in the quarter finals against a battle-hardened Portugal, they won’t be long for this tournament either.

Wales 1 Northern Ireland 0

A Gareth McAuley own goal settled a tight, scrappy and nervous affair that was high on work rate but low on quality.

The result flattered the winners, who struggled to break down a Northern Ireland side that created more chances (5-3) and had more attempts on target (3-1).

Neither goalkeeper was unduly troubled, and it took one moment of class from an otherwise subdued Gareth Bale (10.5) to turn the match, his excellent driven cross forcing McAuley into a desperate attempted clearance.

Wales’s other leading light, Aaron Ramsey (7.6) was equally well marshalled, both stars managing just two attempts apiece, and the best performances from either side came from defenders.

James Chester (4.5) was outstanding, winning six of seven tackles and recording two interceptions for good DraftKings returns. At that price he would be a solid budget enabler if Wales can keep a third consecutive clean sheet against either Belgium or Hungary in the quarter finals.

Faced with a side that denied them both time on the ball and space behind their back line, Wales lacked fluency and potency.

They will need to up their game significantly to progress to the semis, although their next opponent will do well to match the intensity and doggedness displayed by a Northern Ireland side who leave Euro 2016 with their heads held high.

Croatia 0 Portugal 1 (aet)

It took 117 minutes for Portugal and Croatia to conjure up the first attempt on target and it turned out to be the decisive moment of a match that was otherwise a drab and cagey affair.

Ricardo Quaresma (6.0) headed home from a Cristiano Ronaldo (12.0) rebound, the culmination of a break after Ivan Perisic had hit the post at the other end.

It was an incident-packed minute in stark contrast to all that had come before. Portugal set up to negate Croatia’s midfield and succeeded, starving Ivan Rakitic and Luka Modric of the time and space with which they do so much damage.

After firing in a tournament-high 70 shots over the first three matches, Portugal reverted to their qualification persona, staying compact and difficult to break down while looking to counter with pace.

Coach Fernando Santos rang the changes to implement that plan, bringing in Cedric Soares (4.5) for Vierinha (6.5) at full-back and also benching Joao Moutinho (7.5) and Ricardo Carvalho (5.5), with Adrien Silva (5.5) and Jose Fonte (4.5) coming in.

If they were more mobile and resolute as a result, they were also toothless. Out-shot 17-6 by Croatia, Santos’ tactics reduced Ronaldo to the peripheries and the Real Madrid star’s one and only attempt led to the winner.

A third of Uefa game managers were thankful that Ronaldo’s assist gave them some points for the huge outlay, while the even more popular Perisic (35% ownership) was one of many Croatians unlucky to be on the losing side after racking up seven shots.

Soares impressed on his tournament debut, recording a match-high six interceptions, winning one tackle and putting in six crosses for a good DraftKings showing. He looks excellent value in the official game if he keeps his place for the quarter final against Poland.

That match will surely prompt a more attacking display from Portugal, who did what it took to see off one of the tournament’s best sides – not, currently, a description that can be ascribed to Poland.

237 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    4 points off first in the world 😎

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Nice-Well played sir!

      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers HVT.

        Funny thing is I wasn't go to play the Euro's game, decided to create a team about half an hour before the deadline and haven't read any articles or anything. Spent 5 minutes while on holiday with a dodgy internet connection to pick my last 16 team.

        Full casual is the way to go.

        1. HVT
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Same here did a quick pick literally 30mins before KO!
          3k with 2 played yesterday so lots to go 2/3 for me.
          Have you many left?

          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Well played, I've only got 5 left over the next 2 days so my current OR of 12th will drop. Got to brag while I can 😎

            1. HVT
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Be sure of it!
              I on the other hand am hoping to get back into top 1k by 3 🙂

    2. French Gooner
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      best top of the page i've seen in months

      Congratz man and gl

      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers French Gooner

    3. Red Reddington ⚽
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      5 points of the top for me. Thinking of twisting from Ronaldo(c), your situation?

      1. Horizontal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        10 points behind the overall leader and like you Milanista, I was never planning to play but was persuaded to by members of a Facebook group who needed one more player to complete their league.
        Knocked together a team after half an hour on here looking at RMT's and had very little confidence in it at all, but my defence did an amazing job in MD1.
        @Hazanovic, Have Bale captain now but will twist to Muller or Payet.

        1. Red Reddington ⚽
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Cheers. Seems like me sticking is one sided, everyone is twisting.

          1. Horizontal
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            It's a brainvuck.
            7 points doesn't seem enough since I have Payet, Muller, KDB and Giroud as captaincy options for today.
            I'm pretty sure that one of them will score more than 7 , but undoubtedly I'll pick the one who blanks so actually may stick with Bale.

            1. Red Reddington ⚽
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Yes, tell me about it.

        2. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Nice going, it's been similar for me with the defence bringing in the points.

      2. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I've twisted from Bale

  2. HVT
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    (C)
    A - Payet
    B - Kdb
    C - Müller

    Thanks.

    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Payet for me.

      1. HVT
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        My patriosm is stopping me
        🙁
        I've the signed Roy Keane jersey on as we speak with pitchforks/Shovels/Spades/car batteries/etc you name it, all ready for battle!

        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Muller then, the Euros game is just a bit of fun.

          1. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            I was leaning to Kdb as I felt Muller would nearly need a brace to balance up a goal/cs by KDB, is Muller due - I ain't seen a lot of him?

            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              Not seen too much either, just think he's bound to start scoring soon.

              The extra potential KDB points is a good reason to back him.

        2. French Gooner
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          You want revenge for 2010 ?

          1. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            "we may forgive, but we may never forget!"

      2. jonny3110
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Would you C Payet if you'd C Ronaldo last night? I did and am undecided...

    2. pontus
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Think Muller is quite an easy choice. He is bound to score soon.

      1. French Gooner
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        "he is due" hahahahha

  3. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    A) Keep Ronaldo (C)
    B) Payet/Hazard (C)

    1) DDG
    2) 4 points

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      A1 if chasing.

    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Switch on both - Payet

    3. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      B2

    4. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      B2 (Payet)

    5. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Stick. Resist all the urge to change. Hardly been goals galore and teams are defending. I'm sticking.

  4. Legomane
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain picks? (twisting from Bale)

    A. Giroud
    B. Payet
    C. Ozil
    D. De Bruyne
    E. Hector
    F. Rami
    G. Menuier
    H. Lloris

    A. Morata
    B. Dier

    1. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      If you don't mind me saying, why not try narrow down the list? Nothing personal but when I see it that big it smacks of indecisiveness on the questioners part-best to narrow it down a little for better responses imho.

      B/D for me fwiw.
      GL DSM.

    2. BananaMan
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Same boat as many, including me. You must have some favourites?
      Payet hasn't let me down yet!

    3. pontus
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      A or D

      A

    4. Legomane
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Isn't indecisiveness the cornerstone of the comments section!

    5. Legomane
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Something is swaying me toward Giroud... Think he'll want to have a good game and nail down his spot for latter stages.

  5. La Roja
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    So guess 10 point from captain isn't good enough. I'm going to twist:

    A) KDB
    B) Payet
    C) Lukaku
    D) Ozil
    E) Gomez
    F) Hector

    Blimey, so many choice

    1. Jebiga
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      payet

  6. Jamie1990
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    So left dier in my team by mistake and have Muller on the bench, is it possible to make this sub today and bring dier back in tomorrow if Muller does nothing? Cheers chaps

    1. ktk_interista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I believe you can.

    2. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Of course

      1. Jamie1990
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Ok thanks

  7. ktk_interista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Good morning everyone.

    I have 1 player with a blank and Payet and Rami to substitute in. Payet comes in for Perisic but at the moment I have no idea what to do with Rami as all my other players are yet to play. DO I:

    A) Keep Rami on the bench
    B) Play Rami ahead of Meunier
    C) Play Rami ahead of Kroos (as I already have Ozil)

    Surely many others have the same problem 🙂

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      If you have players on 3rd day you bring in Rami and keep him if he scores +5pts

      1. ktk_interista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        To bring in Rami I have to sub a player who hasn't played yet (Kroos or Meunier). All my players player today apart from Dier. If I keep Rami on the bench I will lose his points. Who is more likely to keep a CS France or Belgium?

        1. Konig Luther
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          i trust on France

          1. ktk_interista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Kroos returns more like or Belgium CS then 🙂 ?

            1. Konig Luther
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              i don't trust on belgium cs at all

              1. Camp No No
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 10 months ago

                Why not?

    2. BananaMan
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Are all of the other players playing today??

      1. ktk_interista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        I have Dier MD3.

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Is he on bench too? Otherwise bench him for Rami

          1. ktk_interista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Dier is on the bench already 🙂

        2. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Swap Rami with Dier (keep Dier on the bench) - you can bring Dier back in tomorrow if you want.

          1. ktk_interista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 10 months ago

            Both are on the bench. Basically I will have to leave one player of Rami,Meunier or Kroos out completely.

            1. Kiwivillan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 10 months ago

              I have Kosc and Meunier but I'd trust France for a CS over Belgium

  8. SosTiramFC
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Hey guys hazard or payet should be captain? or i should captain my defend Rami, Hector or Meunier? Help me pleasee

  9. Norman Conquest
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    had hennessey blasz and ronaldo play yesterday with ramsey jed and perisic who will prob all get benched for dier kane and juanfran with rami payet giroud haz and hector all playing today i will wait until monday before subbing out yesterdays player just incase someone doesn't reach 2 points today currently ranked 2641 in world so im happy

    1. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      ok

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        your obviously not

        1. Tomlette Greggs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          you're*

  10. Razak Ping Pong
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Payet or Lukaku for (C)?

  11. Jamie1990
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Not sure whether or not to change my captain, its currently on bale but 1st place in my league has his on Payet, what to do? I could gamble it on Muller/Kroos or 1 of my defenders, thoughts?

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Stick and hope payet don't score. Even if he does its only a point.

  12. Magic Hamster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Changed captain from bale to the always reliable Lukaku!

    ...might see sense and change to Giroud/ Payet/ Hazard though.

    Any other Lukaku captainers?

    1. Blurryface
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Reliable is too heavy a term for him

    2. BananaMan
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I'm in the same boat. Want to captain him but I don't know if I trust him!
      Everytime I put him in my Prem team this year he did squat!

  13. Coaly
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Best captain pick of:

    Payet
    Muller
    KDB
    Hector

    Then would you shift to them from Bale (5)?

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Yes - Muller or Payet (I'm going Muller)

  14. Tomlette Greggs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    In keeping with the trend, who'd you captain from this bunch:

    Muller
    Payet
    de Bruyne
    Giroud

    ?

    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I have that bunch. I'm going KDB!

  15. French Gooner
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    TROLLKAKU Captain FTW

  16. Pirlø's Pen
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    KDB captain for me today.

  17. 404_FC
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    who has chance to get more point

    a. Gomez
    b. Muller

  18. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    As Irish fan I think Payet C so give me comfort if Ireland lose

  19. ktk_interista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Bring in Neuer or keep Fab's 4 pts if you have Hector as well? If I hadn't doubled up I would have twisted but I have Germany CS covered. Do I still twist?

  20. fenixri
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Oh captain, my captain...

    Muller
    KDB
    Payet

    Who would you pick?

  21. Blurryface
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Payet is the right choice

    1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      It's the safest choice.

      1. Blurryface
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        oh yeah

      2. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Not Müller?

    2. Fergietime
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I wouldnt even consider Payet but then again Im Irish 🙂

  22. HamzaKhan
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain Choice

    A) Payet
    B) KDB
    C) King Lukaku

    1. HamzaKhan
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Actually

      Its just between KDB and Lukaku

      Who would you captain??

      1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Give it KDB 🙂

    2. Blurryface
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I would chose between A or B or C

  23. JÆKS ⭐
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    So is everyone bringing Ronaldo in now?

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      He still costs 12.0 and had like one shot and three touches in the box last night. I find that assist point for cheaper elsewhere.

      1. St. Joseph
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah same like kdb or hazard
        Cost 9.5 to 10

        1 assist per match
        Find that kind of point for cheaper elsewhere

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          I find there a little difference though that at this stage you want players from teams that win their knockouts, and Belgium is one of the safe bets.

      2. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        That is correct but considering he plays Poland, as only game of that day, he still is a great C option

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Oh, only one match for that day. That could change the things. I might still rather captain someone from Poland.

    2. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Anything latest news about Belgium team?

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Ehm well Dembele had a very small chance of playing. And he prefered playing on ball circulation rather than physical strenght, so we can expect Fellaini to stay on the bench as well 😀 Wouldn't be surprised if it the same starting XI as last game.

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          Ok. Thanks. That's not awful.

  24. Messiah Hazard
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain choices for the day:
    Hazard
    Payet
    Kroos
    Lukaku

    Which one to go?

    1. anish10
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Lukaku

  25. anish10
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain:

    A) Giroud
    B) KDB
    C) Gomez

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I have Gomez but playing it safe with Payet. Rival who is 16pts ahead will probably C Payet but has none of the others above so want to stay in touch. I have all 3 of your players

  26. Camp No No
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Any latest team news for today's matches? Reliable Germany lineup predictions?

    1. StoichkovFPL
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Some reports suggest :
      Neuer - Kimmich, Boateng, Hummels, Hector - Khedira, Kroos, Muller, Ozil, Goetze - Gomez

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        Danke!

  27. Camp No No
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Having virtually nobody left for tomorrow, I really have to hit the captaincy choice right today. Germany defence against Slovakia? Belgium attack against Hungary? Just Payet?

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      I'm going with Müller

      Out of all those options, I would go for Payet

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 10 months ago

        You don't have him? That's crazy! 😆

        My only problem with Müller is that he's a forward, so he'll get one less point for a goal and doesn't get CS points. So, if Payet assists a goal and keeps CS, that's already same as if Müller scored. And if Payet scores and has a CS, Müller needs a goal and assist to match it (and pass by one, but whatever), and so on. If Payet scores twice, Germany needs to absolutely thrash Slovakia.

        The other thing is that the defenders really seem to be the reliable source of points. So I see it a valid choice to captain a Belgium or Germany defender who joins attacks, almost guaranteed 6 points, and a non-negligible chance for 3-6 more. If a defender scores and has CS, it almost certainly will not be matched by any forward/midfielder in the GW.

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 10 months ago

          No I have Payet as well, but since you don't have Muller I think (or at least you didn't mention him) I'm going with him rather than Payet 😀 Don't expect France to score as many goals as Germany today

  28. Fergietime
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Surely Lukaku or Hazard is the best option today, Hungary let in three goals last game.

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      Thinking of this too, but what about Meunier? Hungary got very lucky with their goals against Portugal.

    2. HamzaKhan
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      KDB or Lukaku?

  29. ihateramsey2
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    Captain KDB or Muller? Help

    1. StoichkovFPL
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 10 months ago

      both midfielders so KDB as he has 5pts for a goal

  30. Pirlø's Pen
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 10 months ago

    ROI will be far from a push over today and can only see them conceding 1. That's if Ciaran Clarke isn't in the team.
    Hungary conceded 3 last game and don't mind to have an attack.

    Payet v KDB.