Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Champions League Tuesday

A Trent Alexander-Arnold free-kick grabs the attention, but it is keeper Simon Mignolet who deserves the plaudits as Liverpool win 2-1 at Hoffenheim in their Champions League play-off match.

And a pre-season match after the start of the league campaign? Man City travel to Spain for just that.

Rotation? What rotation?

Jurgen Klopp named an unchanged side, and even the same bench, for the trip to Hoffenheim, which suggests that rotation might be a factor for Saturday’s visit of Crystal Palace.

It also highlights the slenderness of a Liverpool squad that is now well placed to be involved in plenty more high-level midweek European matches before Christmas.

That could have ramifications in both the short and long term.

The front three of Sadio Mane, Roberto Firmino and Mo Salah were prominent in Germany, but they will struggle to maintain their brand of pacey, high-pressing intensity if required to play twice a week for the foreseeable future.

A late Hoffenheim goal kept the tie alive, making it very difficult for Klopp to consider resting players in the second leg – even with a visit from Arsenal coming just four days later.

The attacking trio are far and away the most popular Liverpool players in Fantasy Premier League, with all enjoying more than 20% ownership. Something will likely have to give at some point, be it form or fatigue.

Neither scenario is attractive for their FPL owners.

Two full-backs, one star

A pair of 4.5-priced full-backs, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Alberto Moreno, took to the field against the Germans, and the former had a night to remember.

The young right-back continues to deputise for the injured Nathaniel Clyne. He’s also growing in stature as a set-piece taker and opened the scoring with a fine free-kick.

There’s a lot to love about a full-back with so much potential for goals and assists – particularly at that price – but the chance of clean sheet points is another matter entirely.

Liverpool’s defence managed 12 shut-outs last season. On the evidence of the first two matches of this campaign, they’ll struggle to surpass that modest sum.

Having conceded three goals at Watford, they could easily have done the same in Germany, relying on the profligacy of their hosts and a superb display from goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, who saved a penalty amid a range of excellent stops.

Moreno continues to look the weakest link in a porous backline and even the sainted Alexander-Arnold was at fault for Hoffenheim’s goal, appealing for an offside instead of getting on with the rather more pressing matter of stopping Mark Uth from getting in on goal unopposed.

The youngster, currently owned by just 2.7% in FPL and also boasting a share of corners, has very tempting attacking credentials at such a knock-down price, but Liverpool are some way short of impressive as a defensive unit.

Milner still out of position

One player Klopp could have used to shore up the Reds’ leaky left flank was James Milner.

Having impressed as a left-back while classified as a midfielder in FPL last season, the former England international ironically now seems destined for a midfield role now he’s down as a defender this year.

That could be an advantage to us – if he gets the pitch-time.

Milner only came on for the last half an hour in Germany as a straight swap in midfield for Jordan Henderson. On Saturday, against Watford, he played the last five minutes in place of Salah.

Klopp himself has stated that Milner is like having a new signing in midfield, which is just as well when Adam Lallana is injured and Philippe Coutinho determined to leave.

With specialist left-backs Moreno and new man Andrew Robertson – who is yet to even make the matchday squad for the Reds – at his disposal, the manager has so far been true to his word regarding the veteran.

Should Milner also snatch back penalty-taking duties, he could be a steal, even at 6.5, for an out of position defender.

But for now, that seems unrealistic. He’s currently an expensive bit-part player, albeit one who provided an assist for Liverpool’s second goal in Germany.

Firmino on form, not fire

A generous 8.5 FPL price has prompted 23.7% of managers to go with Firmino up front, and he provided an immediate reward with a penalty against Watford last weekend.

In Germany, he showed his creative talents, dropping deep to play Mane and Salah into the space that he created.

But as a striker, he was limited to just the one big chance on the night, while his attacking team-mates were given, and squandered, rather more goalscoring opportunities.

The Brazilian supplied two goals (one from the spot) and three assists in pre-season and his role is more facilitator than finisher.

His price remains attractive, but 8.5 is still a lot of money for a man who could end up with more assists than goals this season, particularly if Milner does start looming again as a spot-kick alternative.

City get a random run-out

The first Tuesday after the start of a long and gruelling new campaign is the perfect time to be travelling to Spain for a friendly – if you’re Pep Guardiola.

Man City’s entire first-team squad – minus Kyle Walker for personal reasons – boarded the plane for Girona and many got a run-out in what the club span as ‘an intensive training camp’.

Four City players – Douglas Luiz, Aleix Garcia, Pablo Maffeo and Marlos Moreno – are on loan at La Liga side Girona, which also happens to be owned by Guardiola’s brother, Pere, and City are reportedly considering making an investment in the Spanish club.

Add all that up and an interestingly timed post-pre-season pre-season friendly was the result.

Guardiola again went with a three-man defence that included Tosin Adarabioyo, John Stones and Eliaquim Mangala – with Danilo and Leroy Sane taking up the wing-back roles.

Meanwhile, new signing Bernardo Silva also started and fellow midfielder Ilkay Gundogan was given a 20-minute run-out as he returned from a knee injury that has kept him out for eight months.

The match also provided both Yaya Toure and Raheem Sterling – the latter playing up front – with some extra pitch-time. Gabriel Jesus was brought on for the last 20 minutes.

New arrival Benjamin Mendy was included in the squad as he steps up his recovery from a thigh complaint but the former Monaco left-back was not even named on the bench, suggesting that he will be eased into contention by his manager.

City lost 1-0, in case you were wondering.

1,566 Comments Post a Comment
  1. ROSSI_7
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Zaha to Brunt or Mooy?

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Tricky. I think I'd favour Brunt tbh, his delivery is fantastic

    2. ***00tennis***
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mooy easy

    3. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Brunt is interesting, often overlooked. I'm kerping tabs on both.

  2. Rhodes your boat
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this zaha exit plan? (Sorry for the zaha post I know there's a lot atm)

    Zaha > mooy/ other 5.5

    Next week: Willian > pogba (hazard may be back)
    Then there's still 0.5 to possibly to get trippier in week after

    1. Fpldonny
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Im blown away!

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      i love it when a plan comes together!

    3. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Everyone overlooking Gross... Weird, seems like he will be heavily involved in their attacking play.

  3. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Benteke and willian > mounie and mane for a hit? Also have Firmino and Alonso.

    1. FantasyFootballSprout
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Could hurt you but I don't think benteke is good value for money. Also Mounie is still a bit of an unknown quantity.

      Might end up breaking even on that one.

    2. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      oh go on then

      1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        except tekkers often scores against the pool

    3. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Benteke against a Liverpool side leaking goals left, right and centre and who can't defend corners. Willian got you points last week and nailed on.

      I say no.

  4. kime67
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    how did danilo look yesterday? after i saw the game vs brighton i was sure hes not going to start vs everton.

  5. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Got 81 points in gw1, transfered Dann to Cedric and thinking of captaining Salah, How's this for gw2:

    De Gea(swa)

    Danilo(EVE), Daniels(WAT), Mee(WBA), Cedric(WHU)

    Willian(tot), Pogba(swa), Eriksen(CHE), Salah(CRY)

    Kane(CHE), Lukaku(swa)

    Bench:Elliot, RLC, Quaner, Hunemeier

    1. Krionos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Looks great, but would captain Lukaku/Kane

  6. the snazzy viking
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Mini captain poll:

    A) Lukaku
    B) Kane
    C) Salah
    D) De Bruyne
    E) Lacazette
    F) Someone else

    1. Rinseboy
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A for safety

    2. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      how could you forget the main man Mane

      1. the snazzy viking
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I know but there are so many possible captains

    3. DAZZ
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      B

    4. kime67
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      a b c or jesus. difficult

    5. LC1
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A

    6. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Its either A or roll the dice on a Liverpool attacker.

    7. BbBb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku

    8. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  7. Essrick
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    How's the starting XI and bench order looking for GW2?

    Hart
    Stephens/Daniels/Mee
    KDB/Willian/Redmond/***
    Kane/Lukaku/Firmino

    Elliot, Carroll, Dawson, Suttner

    ***Zaha replacement

    1. Essrick
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lukaku (C) and Firmino or Kane(vc)

    2. greghammer95
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Dawson ahead of Carroll on the bench in my opinion, I've got Hegazi instead of him myself.

      Otherwise looking all good, maybe there's a case for Elliott instead of Hart but Saints can't finish so keep Hart in.

  8. FPLord
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Vardy

    1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Exactly what I'm thinking. Leicester had an off season generally which made all the player prices come down, but they ended well and seem to have started well. Vardy could have another big season and I want in.

    2. the snazzy viking
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I love Vardy as an FPL pick and I think he's going to have a great season but he's at an awkward price point

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Not really. Vardy/Rooney/giroud/firmino all there together.

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          He's an awkward price point because you can't have 2 big hitters alongside him unless your midfield is awful

    3. world winner
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      i like him bt i have lukaku, kane n gabi

    4. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Some very, very tough games coming up, can see a drought ahead...

      1. Football Rambler
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Like Arsenal away?

        Vardy can score against anyone!

  9. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    quick mini vote from you guys:

    For this weekend, play:

    A - Foster or Elliott
    B - 1st Sub - Sutner or Carroll?

    Thanks!

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Elliot Carroll

    2. Cyril Figgis
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Foster, Carroll

    3. BbBb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Foster. Newcastle have 2 first choice defenders out injured after the 1st match.

      Carroll

    4. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Fozzy Carolly

  10. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    No Silva love at 8.0? I guess his score last season isn't great.

    1. F4L
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      I'm having him for the next few

    2. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Are you a very naughty boy?

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Only when no one is watching 😉

        1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Goodness me

  11. Steve Stiffler
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Are Mounie and Davies set for a price rise??

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yes, tonight

        1. Steve Stiffler
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          lovely thatll be 100.4 thanks rom

    2. Sᴄʜᴜ̈RRʟᴇ ⓝ
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mounie was last night, but didn't, I think the same true for Bavies.
      (So - may not change tonight, either)

  12. ramzieibrahim
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Lowe or mee ?

    1. BbBb
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mee

  13. Afghanistanislas
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Which of these is the best option?
    A) Zaha to Ramsey
    B) Zaha to RLC (would be a sub), Fraser to Mkhitaryan (next week, would have to take a hit as well)
    C) Zaha to 5.5 mid/Atsu, Willian to Mkhitaryan

    1. Fpldonny
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      C

  14. kime67
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    the problem with danilo at left back is that he cant use his left foot to cross or get past defensers. he will be benched

  15. St. Joseph
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    With uncertainty all over ramsey minutes, will he start this gw ahead of elneny

    Im leaning towards 6.0 - 5.5 mid and keep the change.

    A) mooy (set piece takers but seems to play deep) not so many SoT
    B) ince / kachunga (how did they play last weekend)
    C) groß (i checked livescore and yes he is playing as a forward, i think he will get goals sometimes.. also on PK?)

    *i already have willian and atsu

    1. St. Joseph
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      For zaha replacement

  16. greghammer95
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Soooo...

    As always in FPL, an injury shapes your plans... I like it.

    Zaha to Gross for me, leaves 2.0m ITB with a decision point next week...

    1) Jesus to Kane
    2) Jesus to Morata
    3) Bertrand to Jones

    Doing options 2 or 3 would leave me 2.5ITB to then bring in Sanchez for GW4, Bournemouth (H).

    1. Dreams
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      1

      1. greghammer95
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        It's tempting to have him there quite easily against Burnley, especially if he shows some form against Chelsea...

        1. Dreams
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 8 months ago

          Yes. As good as impossible for me to go without him if he starts scoring once.

  17. Super Silva Haze
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    A fully fit Ramsey gets the nod ahead of Elneny all day long imo. even Wenger cant fooq this one up surley ?

    1. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah but is he fully fit?

      1. Super Silva Haze
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Thats the question...

    1. shearer9
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Ha. Hope they're wrong, I copied Mark and got Mkhi.

  18. SerieD
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Hi!

    Help needed!

    I need to replace Zaha. I would not like to take a hit but if your suggestion is solid...

    My team:
    Daniels, Cedric, Bertrand, Vertonghen( Mee)
    KDB, Alli, *Zaha*, Salah (Atsu)
    Firmino, Lukaku

    IB=0
    A) Willian
    B) Ramsey
    C) Keep Zaha
    D) Give me a new angle

    Thank you!

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A best option by far

      1. SerieD
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I agree so far. Thank you for your opinion.

    2. Fpldonny
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      D. Roberto pereyra

      1. SerieD
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        He certainly played good. But can he's team score enough in next fixtures..

      2. SerieD
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        And possible injury.. Forgot to mention.

    3. SerieD
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Zaha to Willian it is. Thanks.

  19. A Team Of James McCleans
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Zaha -> RLC ?

    1. kime67
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      no

    2. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Short term maybe yes!

  20. Brian (Not the Messiah)
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Best mid 8.5 and below?

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Mkhitarian
      Pogba
      Silva

    2. kime67
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      mikhi best by far

      1. Brian (Not the Messiah)
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Is he going to keep his place though? People seem to think he could be dropped?

  21. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    A) KDB + Mounie + Kolasinac
    B) Eriksen + Firmino + Mbemba

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      B anyday

  22. Steve Stiffler
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Draft League:

    Have Bavies, Alli and Kane starting, and Azpa... Should I Walters(WBA) for Azpa or Bavies or play both?

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      put in Walters...***

  23. DoobNoob
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Best 4.5m defender?

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Zanka

    2. SerieD
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Lascelles. That would be my pick. Solid starter.

    3. Francescoli
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Moreno

  24. Espen8
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Rate my team guys:

    De Gea
    Yoshida Davies Stones Daniels
    Mhiky De Bruyne Ritchie
    Firmino Lukaku (C) Kane

    Bench: Elliot, Carroll, RLC, Long

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Very nice

  25. Waxys
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    I'll keep Milner on bench for dreft until Klopp comes to his senses

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Do you fancy having Milner on you're bench all season then??

      1. Waxys
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        Nah 1 more game max

    2. Waxys
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Those clowns shouldn't be starting over him.

      1. Steve Stiffler
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        you dont have a clue sir

    3. greghammer95
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Having a 6.5m defender on your bench is a recipe for success lads, no other options at that price.

      Just Walker, Kompany Bailly for three of the top of my head.

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 8 months ago

        I assume dreft means draft, so price doesn't matter

  26. FPL ZB
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    It'd depressing that you could be able to build your TV to 101.5 and not be able to recoup more than 100

    1. Eze Really?
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      The system. Often thought how it would be if we could recoup 100%

  27. Coot
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Tadic or Redmond?

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      Tadic

  28. Franktomet
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    Pick 2 to play in gw2:

    a, Davies

    b, Mee

    c, Bertrand

    1. RLukaku
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 8 months ago

      A, b

  29. kime67
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 8 months ago

    id like to see arsenal with the formation city is using, with giroud and lacasstte up front.