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Feature – Risk vs Reward

Not all Fantasy points are created equal. While we obviously want to maximise the total returns gained over the course of the season, on an individual level we also need to account for the cost of those points and the certainty with which they can be projected.

Cost is fairly easy to measure by looking at points divided by millions of pounds spent. Risk, however, is more tricky but will be defined here as an inconsistent player. For example, consider the two players below:

Gameweek 1Gameweek 2Gameweek 3Gameweek 4Average
Player A56555.25
Player B101285.25

Both players give you the same total points but Player B’s erratic production is much harder to anticipate and can have a negative impact for a variety of reasons:

Transfer targets become difficult to predict, as you don’t know if Player B is a legitimate Fantasy option or merely someone who had a couple of standout games. It’s much more likely that Player A will be able to maintain his production going forward.

Squad players become trickier to rotate in your first XI, as you’re unable to predict with any certainty just what they might contribute that Gameweek. If you play a player week in, week out, this isn’t an issue, but if you are looking to rotate a player, consistency can be a valuable asset.

Inconsistent players are far more difficult to manage when it comes to the captain’s armband, someone like Player B could explode or flop in any given Gameweek. Captain him every week and this is not a concern but if, like most Fantasy managers, you change your captain on a regular basis, this unpredictability just increases the risk involved.

This data can only be used alongside other factors as it is (a) retrospective rather than predictive and (b) it isn’t necessarily a good idea to rid yourself of all risk in your side as this will also limit potential.

That said, we can attempt to identify comparable players who might bring equally good production potential for less risk, and thus represent a better use of your team’s valuable funds.

Before we start, a note about the charts included in this article. They plot a players average (mean) Gameweek score, against the standard deviation of those scores – eg: the level of rise and fall week by week, as a representation of the “risk” involved with a player. The further a player appears to the right of the X axis (bottom horizontal axis) of the chart, the greater the deviation or risk involved. The further the player appears up the Y axis (left vertical axis) – the greater their average Gameweek score. Ultimately, we’re looking for players with strong Gameweek scores, with as low a risk factor as possible – these players give strong returns but, crucially, are also consistent.

Let’s begin by looking at the forwards…

We can immediately see that in general, higher reward is accompanied by higher risk. This stands to reason – the top players have the ability to score double digit points in any given Gameweek, and thus have further to fall when things don’t go their way. However, there are a couple of match-ups where the ‘risk’ involved could be deciding factor:

Sergio Aguero vs Wayne Rooney – The Manchester rivals have been tough to distinguish this year. Both have averaged around six points per game, though Rooney has edged ahead in the past fortnight in terms of points per week thanks to a couple of big performances.

The popular perception is that Rooney brings a level of consistency matched by few but, in fact, his points total has been boosted by a handful of huge performances, including back-to-back hat tricks in Gameweeks three and four. That in itself isn’t a big problem but the fact that these displays have come against the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal made it likelier that Rooney wasn’t given the captain’s armband by his owners on those occasions.

Starting with Blackburn at home this weekend, Man City have the slightly more favourable fixtures in the short-term, and with Aguero consistently chipping in with good returns, he might just be the wiser choice right now.

Emmanuel Adebayor and Demba Ba vs. Elite forwards – there is a strong argument based on the above data, to plug both Adebayor and Ba into your lineup, using the funds saved to invest in midfield (where cheaper, consistent talent has been very hard to find). Both mid-price strikers have managed to deliver great consistency to match their high returns, as opposed to other flash-in-the-pans assets whose production has been erratic at best (we’re looking at you, Yakubu). Both Tottenham and Newcastle have a strong set of fixtures on the horizon, so while it isn’t controversial to suggest this pair is worth owning, there’s an argument to suggest that they can be owned instead of Rooney and Aguero, rather than alongside them.

Daniel Sturridge vs Edin Dzeko – Sturridge started the season on the sidelines and a lack of stand-out individual performances have really kept him out of the Fantasy headlines. His ownership has crept up into double digits but that level is still below what one would expect for a player with Sturridge’s risk/reward profile. He has found the net in eight different games, not far behind Rooney, Aguero and Ba (10) but a lack of substantial returns has suppressed his overall points total, and thus the interest of Fantasy managers. It goes without saying that Chelsea, and hence Sturridge, lack the upside of the two Manchester teams but if you’re looking to save some cash up top, or to differentiate from the widely-held Ba, Sturridge brings consistent returns, not often found for a player in his price range.

Steven Fletcher vs All other sub-7.0m forwards– the Wolves front man gained some attention during his solid run of form a few weeks back, but the above chart shows he may still be a touch undervalued. Yakubu and Zamora have both been more fancied Fantasy assets at some point this year but they carry much more risk than Fletcher, who has simply shown up and delivered close to five points per game at an almost unmatched level. Zamora may have a slightly higher upside but, if you’re a position to be rotating your third forward, Fletcher’s consistency makes him a very desirable option.

Steve Morison vs Danny Graham and Grant Holt – Morison has only delivered points on a league average basis, so this isn’t going to be the most exciting decision you make for your team. However, the attributes for a good third forward (who will often find himself benched) must include a level of consistency and Morison enjoys an advantage in that area, ahead of the group of comparable four-point-players. He’s found himself benched in the last two weeks and those concerns must obviously be addressed first, but if you believe he can get back into the Norwich lineup, he remains one of the best budget forwards to own.

You can immediately see the correlation is stronger among midfielders with fewer outliers to highlight. There are however, a couple of familiar names that are worth highlighting:

David Silva vs. Everyone else – Okay, admittedly, highlighting the second-top scoring midfielder around, owned by 44% of FPL managers isn’t going to win any awards for investigative journalism. However, idle wildcards are the devil’s tools and with Gareth Bale and Clint Dempsey continuing to impress, there may be many managers tempted to turn their collective backs on the Spanish maestro.

While looking for the next big thing is obviously a sound idea, the above data merely lends further weight to the fact that Silva is simply too good to drop. Bale has the edge on him in terms of pure point production per game but he has been significantly more unpredictable, raising the question as to whether Bale’s form will continue for the remainder of the season.

Silva, on the other hand, has failed to score or assist a goal in back-to-back starts just twice all season. When spending 10.0 plus, the security of knowing what you’re getting for your money is a huge benefit, especially if that stability is not accompanied by a downgrade in overall production. Assuming most Fantasy managers reading this already own Silva, this may be one area where apathy wins out . Doing nothing might just be the way to go with Silva – that transfer itch might be better scratched elsewhere.

Theo Walcott vs Mid range midfielders – Consistency isn’t the first word you associate with the frustrating Walcott but, in Fantasy terms at least, he has been exactly that this season. The winger chipped in with nine games of between five and nine points compared to fourteen disappointing outings, which doesn’t sound great in a vacuum but actually compares favourably to several more fancied options: Stephane Sessegnon (9 vs 14), Nani (8 vs 14) and Dempsey (8 vs 13). The high scores have been limited, which has really kept Walcott out of Fantasy managers’ minds and thus he represents a good buying opportunity given his high floor and mid-range ceiling. Having been dropped for Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain the FA Cup trip to Sunderland last weekend, however, Walcott’s starts will need to be monitored, with a first-team starting place perhaps under question for the first time this season.

Consistency of defensive points is always going to be tied more to a player’s team than his own ability, so the analysis here is less telling, but a couple of names still pop up which deserve a quick mention:

Kyle Walker vs Benoit Assou-Ekotto – With a couple of big performances over the past six weeks, Assou-Ekotto has leapt to the top of the defensive points charts, though the above would suggest that team-mate Walker represents better value. Aside from the fact he is slightly cheaper and owned by less than half as many Fantasy managers, Walker has also delivered slightly better per-game returns on a much more consistent basis. Throw in Walker’s comparable, or marginally better, performance stats (including shots on goal and key passes) and you have a clear cut differential candidate who should remain on the radar.

Vincent Kompany vs Thomas Vermaelen – Vermaelen has rarely been a hot Fantasy property this term, but his positioning in our chart illustrates a worthy point of note. Defensive goalscorers obviously carry significant potential but the unpredictability of those returns can often limit a player’s value. If the goals have come in games where logic suggests the player should have been benched in our Fantasy lineups, they may have been wasted, but would have still boosted a player in the overall scoring charts.

Vermaelen has earned a large portion of his points from offensive production so, unless you are willing to play him every week, he looks way too unpredictable to justify his decent returns when compared with someone like Kompany, whose production has been much flatter, with City’s defensive returns his bread and butter.

Chris Glover Creator of the plfantasy blog, providing a stats focused approach to fantasy football. Exiled to Canada but still prefer my sports played on grass rather than ice. Follow them on Twitter

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  1. Elniñorules
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    Awesome article, Chris. Simply awesome.

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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      U read that quick 😉

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      1. udit
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        He's been taking lessons from Ruk.

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      2. Elniñorules
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        Yeah, read it while you kids were arguing about whose club is the best.

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    2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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      Now that I have read it, I have to agree. Good stuff Chris, many thanks

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      1. udit
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        You read SLOWLY. 😉

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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          I like to read things PROPERLY when I have the time. I tend to scan emails as get approx 4-5 hundred a day but when articles are good you should take your time.

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          1. Christina.
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            500 emails a day? You need a PA. And a shredder.

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              Have both

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              1. Christina.
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                Sorry. You are obviously more important than I thought.

                *Walks off to make his own coffee

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          2. udit
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            🙂 No offense intended there btw

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    3. HVT
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      Love that kinda article, like I thought silva , komps, bale all season keepers.

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  2. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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    Oh my gosh. This guys stuff is dynamite. His blog was great for a long time, but the stuff he has put out since he started writing here is on another level.

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  3. udit
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    Good lord, Awesome article Chris like last time.

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  4. thetinkerman
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    Great article Chris, it's great to see you posting on FFS.

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  5. Bigo1
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    Top article

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  6. HappyAnkit
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    Awesome Article, Chris.

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  7. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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    I wonder which little diamond is Raylor. And cabaye. And Danny Murphy. and Valencia.

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  8. BootlegRascal
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    I have Aguero, RVP, Ba up front

    Rival has Torres, RVP, Ba

    He is captaining RVP. Should I go with Ba to get Ba and Aguero's points on him, or captain Kun and double up on his points?

    I'm leaning towards Ba captain to spread the risk.

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    1. Captain Shirokov
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      12 years, 2 months ago

      Spread what risk?

      You have one of the most sought after forwards for the next two gameweeks. He averages something like 9 ppg against teams outside the top four at home. On the other hand, your rival has Torres, who probably won't even play this weekend. My advice would be to captain whoever you think will get the most points who, imo , is Aguero.

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    2. The Finnisher
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      Captain whoever you think will score the most, surely?

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      1. BootlegRascal
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        Well I can't split between the two, so I thought having two half baskets of eggs would be better than having a full one.

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    3. Christina.
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      Yes, why not. You might get LUCKY.

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      1. BootlegRascal
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        Ahhh

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  9. @FuzzyWarbles
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    Shakhtar Donetsk news: Fuzzy Czarbles press conference.

    "Yes, we have a tough battle at Porto. Our clubs our very similar but the atmosphere is electric at the Estadio do Dragao, it is an intimidating venue. But our boys have a Dragao of their own, Ivan Drago, head trainer at Shakhtar Donetsk. He has been working vigorously to obtain optimal fitness from our players, implementing exciting new techniques to prepare our boys for this all important first game in the group stage. Evidence of such determination can be found here:"

    http://youtu.be/GWihWfdH4Zw

    "We have some nagging injuries. Lindegaard is still unavailable. Senderos is back in training, hopefully will be fit for the weekend, but we may have to ease him back. The clubhouse is in high spirits after we let go of the D'Gerbil."

    "Borcat, my trusted advisor, having returned from the Liverpool area after some cracking reconnaissance work, is safely perched atop my head again and will be available for the weekend."

    Are there any questions from the press?

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    1. Elniñorules
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      Mr Czarbles:

      How are your boys coping up with the weather in Porto? We hear that there is a huge risk of players being prone to "sore throat", which could keep your players out for weeks.

      Will Borcat be available for team selection? Rumors suggest that she has a strong sense of communication with her peers, which could be very handy at the back.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        the elements are foreign to say the least. we were able to pack lightly which may be a disadvantage as part of our training regiment is to carry our luggage everywhere, and we are used to lifting and moving heavy Ukranian clothing. Our players have the finest medical treatment in the world. No sore throat, kidney stone, bleeding ulcer, or prolapsed anus can keep our men off the pitch!

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
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          oh and borcat is a player/manager/supersub/head warmer.

          A cat of many hats.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      Mr Czarbles, how important do you think home advantage in this competition is?

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        tis vital. especially early on. so many similar clubs in this thing. luckily we have several comforts in the home clubhouse we do not afford our visitors. Massage table, fitness center, running water and passports have all been removed to maximize our advantage.

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          Mr Czarbles, You and Zenit each have one of the Senderos brothers. Do you think they are of equal ability, and will you be pitting yours against Zenit's when you meet?

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
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            Ukranian blood runs thick. I should know. Ive seen many 80's action movies. CZenderos will gladly fight his kin to win for klub and kountry.

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              Yes I'd heard you were all thick. Thank you Mr Czarbles.

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    3. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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      MR. Czarbles, are you in the market for a replacement for Lindegaard, or is he your first choice when fit?

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      1. Elniñorules
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        (Cough) Roberto (Cough) Can you rephrase (rough voice) that in your Italian accent? (cough) I can't quite understand (Drinks water)

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        1. Elniñorules
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          *Clears throat

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        2. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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          lol Hilarious

          Uuuuuh Yess-eh Meester Kah-zarblessss are-eh you in deh marketta for el replacementio for Lindy-gaawd: ees he your firs' choize when feet?

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      2. @FuzzyWarbles
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        lindegaard has been great for us when fit. he will be in contention but he must adapt to the Ukranian philosophy of football, there are no such things as injuries.

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  10. 1mills
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    Great article, but my concern it doesn't take into account the me owning a player factor.

    I think I owned Adebayor for 12 gameweeks and best I got was a 7 and a 5 and a load of 2's.

    I had actually reckoned as being first choice at end of season he would be on comparable score with Rooney etc for price but frustration won oit in the end!

    l

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  11. The Finnisher
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    Great article cheers!
    My personal opinion on each 'VS'
    Aguero vs Rooney - Aguero for next 2 at least.
    Emmanuel Adebayor and Demba Ba vs. Elite forwards - Ba for me, I'd have him over anyone right now, anyone.
    Daniel Sturridge vs Edin Dzeko - at a push, Sturridge now that Balotelli and Tevez are back in the picture.
    Steven Fletcher vs All other sub-7.0m forwards - Yakubu.
    Steve Morison vs Danny Graham and Grant Holt - Graham.
    David Silva vs. Everyone else - Silva for now, Bale most of the time.
    Theo Walcott vs Mid range midfielders - Sessegnon
    Kyle Walker vs Benoit Assou-Ekotto - BAE
    Vincent Kompany vs Thomas Vermaelen - Kompany
    Pointless, I know

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    1. Christina.
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      I skipped to the last one....you've seen the light!

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      1. The Finnisher
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        The 'pointless' or choosing Kompany over Vermaelen? If the latter then it has always been that way.

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        1. Christina.
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          Oh...I'm probably confusing you with someone else. I've never personally owned Vermaelen, and like many always tend to think in terms of Arsenal not being able to keep CS, but as many has pointed out they have done ok so far this season.

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          1. The Finnisher
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            No you have the right person, I've a Vermaelen fan, but only because I have cash spare, I'd pick Liverpool/Spurs/City/United defenders over him though

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            1. udit
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              That's a change!

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              1. HappyAnkit
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                Poor Change. 🙁

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                1. udit
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                  The grav reminds me of someone from last year.

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                  1. Christina.
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                    Your grav reminds me of Jafalad's last year....

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                  2. udit
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                    Bingo! Jafald where North meets South! Current score Nh 1 SH 0

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    2. HappyAnkit
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      My Opinion-
      Kun
      Ba
      Sturridge
      Yakubu
      Graham/Holt
      Silva & Bale
      Sess/Dempsey
      Walker
      Vermaelen

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      1. The Finnisher
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        Vermaelen over Kompany? Interesting...MAYBE from GW30, but that's only if we can field a consistent back 4 by then

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        1. HappyAnkit
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          Verm being attack minded sails ahead of Kompany.
          Kompany gets most of his points through CS.

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          1. HappyAnkit
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            *far*

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            1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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              Just about to trf verm to komp

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        2. thetinkerman
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          Agree but it's a maybe at the moment.

          City seem determined to play defensively at the moment which is great for Kompany owners. Throw in his decent fixtures and bonus and it's a no brainer for the next few weeks.

          *IF* Arsenal can keep a solid, consistent back 4 and not have their usual mid-season 'crisis' then Verm could be a contender in a few weeks like you say. That's only if he's playing CB and Arsenal's defensive form is decent-good.

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  12. In Like Flynn.
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    Excellent article Chris. Gives me something else to worry about.

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  13. Christina.
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    Was hoping GJ would be in there....

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  14. Loooser
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    Too bad we do not know which players are other black diamonds.. it would be great to have them all.

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  15. Rinseboy
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    So would you bench out of siggy, dempsey or bale? My heart is saying bench demps but my head is saying bench siggy!

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    1. HappyAnkit
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      Siggy

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  16. thetinkerman
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    Could do with some quality input* from the early morning crowd...

    I've decided Dzeko has to go but I still can't quite work out who for. I've got 2 frees and .3m in the bank. My team is linked.

    I'm thinking of going for either:

    - Studge (consistent although slightly off-form, has the fixtures to do well, could be slightly less attractive if Chelsea's bad form continues)
    - Zamora (not as explosive, more of a low scorer but a nice option for the next 3 or 4 week, depending if the GW29 fixture is moved to midweek and reinstated)
    - Graham (great value and would give me flexibility to upgrade Sess to Nani/Mata etc. although his fixtures aren't amazing)

    Any opinions would be greatly appreciated! Cheers

    *no pressure 😉

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    1. thetinkerman
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      No takers? 🙁

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      1. Holy See
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        If I had to plump for one, guess it would be Sturridge based on the next few Chelsea fixtures.

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        1. thetinkerman
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          Yeah, I understand your sentiment. There's no outstanding candidates that I can afford (i.e. Aguero/Rooney)

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      Sturridge would give you some Chelsea cover, and cash left over for future TFs and save the other imo Tinkerman. Sorry for delay in answer.

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      1. thetinkerman
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        better late than never! thanks

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    3. HappyAnkit
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      Sturridge

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Yeah, I was leaning that way and it seems to be the popular choice.

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  17. jimnastics
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    SAF - "Valencia back in a week or so"

    I forgot to transfer him out last night, so have just lost 0.1m... then I read that quote 🙂 Great news. Also gives me an excuse to play McClean this week!

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    1. asyrafdanial
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      lol just late 1sec 🙂

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  18. asyrafdanial
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    Valencia could make swift return against Tottenham. Yes ❗

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    1. jimnastics
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      😀 Hoping maybe for a sub appearance against Spurs (I won't start him anyway), and then start against West Brom. That would be absolutely perfect.

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  19. Connor's Calling
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    Stunning article

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  20. Pomp and Circumstance
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    quick RMT please! are the subs right?

    Krul
    Taiwo, Kompany, Clark [injured]
    Sessegnon, Sigurdsson, Bale, Silva
    Ba (vc), Aguero (c), RVP

    subs: Sorensen; Sinclair, Simpson, Caulker

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    1. HappyAnkit
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      Clark>Simp

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      1. Pomp and Circumstance
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        the substitutes will do that; worth doubling down on Newcastle defence (Krul and Simpson)?

        is Sinclair the right MF/FW to bench?

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        1. HappyAnkit
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          Yes.

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          1. Pomp and Circumstance
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            I joined your new UCL classic league; thanks for the invitation!

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            1. HappyAnkit
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              Thanks. 😉

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  21. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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    The most interesting question posed here is the idea of going

    Ba Ade RVP

    rather than

    Ba Rooney RVP

    What are your guys' thoughts on that? Chris seems to think there are more quality high-price options at midfield: I am inclined to disagree. But then again, I think Mata is crap. I guess if you think Mata is a legitimate option, and you want to Run Mata, Silva, Bale, and Valencia/Dempsey, then I could see this.

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    1. udit
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      I agree with you Newman, Plethora of options in mid, Dempsey(if you got him at 8.5), Valencia, Sess, McClean as well now. Rooney RVP Ba for me though in the front line AFTER the next 2. Aguero will be gone.

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      1. The Japanager: Roberto Newm…
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        Right, I agree, but I dont think that the point he is making.

        I think he is saying that Ade over Rooney is a good idea because there are better EXPENSIVE options at midfield. Meaning ignore Sess entirely (basically)

        I mean, even with Rooney, RVP, Ba, alot of people can do Sess, Mcclean, Demps, Silva, Bale.

        I think he is saying if you choose Ade over Rooney you can get Mcclean Valencia/Demps, Mata, Silva Bale.And at that point you would never play Mcclean.

        Which I'm not sure is better. My point would be since Sess and Mcclean are such great deals that the difference between Rooney and Ade is indeed worth it.

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Oh I know! I read the article, but I prefer to have Roo,RVP,Ba and a lighter midfield but that's just my preference, I'm not sure which one is better.

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      im probably keeping bale til the end unless its a swap for vdv, and im probably bringing in friedel for lindy in a couple weeks. i think i would pursue ade around gw31 or later for the run in. but im married to aguero->rooney gw28. i know i need utd attack, and i just dont trust anyone else game in, game out as much. so rvp/ba/aguero for now and rvp/ba/rooney soon.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        sorry, you were referencing the article, my reply wasnt very relevant.

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  22. Ryan
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    so is shotton worth a shout this weekend or will he be playing bit part roles?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      He played 25 min from the bench last night. Wish I never bought him.

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      1. Ryan
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        same

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  23. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Hmm Sturridge vs. Dzeko - is it my imagination or does Dzeko not get a mention in that?

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  24. Salle a Manger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Right, shall I do Larsson > McClean and save money for elsewhere, or Larsson > a midfielder priced up to 8.1.

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      You had Larsson Till Now? 😯
      Larsson>McClean/Sess/Siggy/Pilkington

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      1. Salle a Manger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        i wanted to get rid of him, but kept having more urgent transfers to do :/

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        1. HappyAnkit
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Fine.

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  25. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    What are the chances of David Silva being rested or coming on for a 10 minute cameo?

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      King of RMT's is back. 😛

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      1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Yes, Indeed 😉

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  26. jimnastics
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    The earliest Wayback Machine capture of FPL:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20020922010402/http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

    Sept 20th 2002! 10 years old this year. Did anyone play it back then? I think I started in 04/05 season... going to try and find some WBM capture and relive the memories 😀

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    1. jimnastics
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Yep, this is the one I first recognise:

      http://web.archive.org/web/20041116030606/http://fantasy.premierleague.com/

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    2. jimnastics
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Holy sh*t you can even drill down into peoples teams! I think my morning just got lost 😀

      http://web.archive.org/web/20041118214728/http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/eventhist.mc?id=11508

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      1. udit
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Awesome, Henry, Ljunberg and all the other legends!

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Robben, Baros in the D.T 😀

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      1-5-5-0 formation was allowed....first 4 games of the season was taken as "pre season" and no points were allowed...gave one time to get to grips with FPL...

      LOL

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      1. Bubbles
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 2 months ago

        Got your team all ready for the big clash this weekend ol' boy?

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        1. udit
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 2 months ago

          Bubbles, Bubbles you're the man, if you can't do it no one can, GOOOOO Bubbles.

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          1. Bubbles
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 2 months ago

            It's support like this that'll push me to the title. 🙂

            A Victor Moses 9 point haul will win it for me, I'm telling ya! It's going to be glorious.

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    4. jimnastics
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Hmmm I see my links aren't work... for anyone reminiscers here, just search http://fantasy.premierleague.com at:

      http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

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  27. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Does anyone know why Clichy didn't play the last 2 prem games?

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  28. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    I'm thinking of giving the armband to David Silva instead of Demba Ba 😛
    Any thoughts/could it be a nice punt?

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      How many times will you ask? 😕

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    2. thetinkerman
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Stop asking for approval and do it!

      Ba has the higher potential but also the higher risk in my opinion. Silva is more likely to grind out an average score between 4 and 8 points

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    3. Bubbles
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Silva at home to Blackburn...I wouldn't exactly call that "a punt".

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    4. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      I'm gonna do it guys! 🙂

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  29. Holy See
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Was looking forward to that article. Is that sad? Data has to be retrospective but is the only predictor we have really. Except for Moses, who I had for 2 months based on...nothing except a penchant for silly punts. Damned penchants.

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  30. Mr Sarcastic
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 2 months ago

    Dear Christina,

    I'm little dissapointed I didn't get your reply to my post yesterday.
    You seem to be here always, and then I picked the time when you obviously just logged off.
    You could call that a bad luck, could you?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 2 months ago

      Apologies. No, I can't go on a date with you.

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