Technical Area

The Technical Area- Ramsey vs Spurs

With Cesc Fabregas spirited away by Barcelona after seasons of endless speculation, many had assumed the late August deadline-day swoop for Mikel Arteta would see the Spaniard take on the playmaker mantle in light of his compatriot’s departure.

A series of injuries and suspensions, however, has decimated the Arsenal midfield so far and as yet, Arsene Wenger’s intentions for the former Everton man remain unclear. An ankle injury to Jack Wilshere has been a significant blow for Wenger. The youngster has failed to play a single minute of the season so far and faces months on the sidelines after recent surgery. If Wilshere was fit, it’s conceivable that Arteta could, indeed, play in the role just behind Robin Van Persie but his subsequent absence has meant a more withdrawn midfield role for the Spaniard at present.

With his fair share of set-piece duties and priced at 8.2 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), Arteta was on many Fantasy managers’ radars after the Emirates switch but so far, it’s been Aaron Ramsey who Wenger has turned to for the more advanced position. As the weeks have gone by, the Welshman has steadily grown accustomed to his role in the Gunners first-team; playing in every minute of their league season so far. He’s picked up two assists and a goal in his last three games, despite his side’s stuttering performances.

At 6.3 in comparison, Ramsey is currently looking the most likely to produce in the Arsenal midfield and with a total points haul of 30, is bettering Arteta’s score of 25. Ahead of a very favourable run of games that sees them face (SUN, STO, che, WBA, nor, FUL) we analyse both player’s performances in last weekend’s defeat at Spurs:

A look at the players’ average positions at White Hart Lane shows how far forward Ramsey (16) is getting when in possession for Arsenal. His role was a more prominent attacking one compared to the Gunners’ starting wide men Gervinho (27) and Theo Walcott (14), with Arteta (8) pushing on from deep.

The Spaniard made 91 passes in total, with 80 successful and passed to Ramsey 16 times, more than any other team mate. Ramsey made a total of 74 passes with 60 successful- 11 went to Arteta- again, this was the most he made to any team mate. He also grabbed the Gunners equaliser, of course, firing off 2 shots to Arteta’s 1.

If this was purely a tactical dissection of Ramsey’s play, the Welshman is hardly devoid of criticism; he failed to provide any real support for Robin Van Persie, making just 4 successful passes to the Dutchman, for example, and some of his forward balls went astray, leading directly to Spurs attacks.

From a Fantasy perspective, however, he is proving far better “Value” than any other Gunners midfielder and from that angle, his contribution is significant. A look at his passing zones compared to Arteta’s is promising; 35% of Ramsey’s passes in open play were in his opponents’ final third of the pitch, with Arteta managing just 14%. In last season’s equivalent fixture, Cesc Fabregas made 72 passes with 57 successful, with 24% coming in the Spurs final third- again, an encouraging sign for those eyeing up Ramsey as an option.

With both Wayne Rooney and Sergio Aguero banging in the goals, many Fantasy managers will be reluctant to take a punt on Van Persie, given Arsenal’s dismal recent form. For those looking for alternative Gunners coverage, Ramsey is proving a useful alternative right now- Van Persie comes in at 11.9 in comparison and has accrued just a single Fantasy point more so far this season, despite the 5.6 price difference.

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  1. ssssshhh
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    RVP off injured.....!

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    1. Demí
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      How bad did the injury look?

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      1. ssssshhh
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        terrible.....!

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        1. 4vets
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          Any more descriptive words than that? What happened?

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      2. pieces
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        About the same as Carlos's hair, Friccken terrible

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    2. Mr Smith
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      Now that would be funny, lol

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    3. CRUSHER
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      He's still playing.

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    4. Mr Sarcastic
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      bs?

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      1. ssssshhh
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        good shout

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        1. 4vets
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          Aaaah.... I may swear at you soon 😉

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          1. ssssshhh
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            Please don't, I was only messing. :'-(

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            1. 4vets
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              Forgiven 🙂

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              1. ssssshhh
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                Ahhh thanks.

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    5. FPL Daniel
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      Don't joke with that

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  2. super zlatan
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    Evening lads. Go on the swedes

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  3. Back on the horse
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    just logged on. Dzeko 40. nice warm up for 4 goals this weekend!

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  4. super zlatan
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    Brunt to Ramsey seem sensible trade this gw?

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  5. Back on the horse
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    Greece top the group. Pity the country is bankrupt and prob wont exist come 2012...

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    1. natasa_lik
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      Where are you from?I think Croatia...OTHERWISE i cant understand why you are so mean,with a country with problems like all europe ,but still with the most happy people!!!the sun still shines....and we will exist at 2012...wait for us!!!!

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  6. super zlatan
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    I love David silva.

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    1. Royal5
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      I'm sure he loves you as well 🙂

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      1. super zlatan
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        Lol. Coarse he does.

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        1. Royal5
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          Congrats to sweden!

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    2. ssssshhh
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      Potential Ballon d'Or this season??

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      1. super zlatan
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        Could be a good shout

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        1. ssssshhh
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          Best player in the premier league by a mile. Imo.

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          1. Gaz Downright
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            eh? bollox

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  7. Dave1966
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    Silva assist to go with his two goals

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    1. 4vets
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      Demi... don't faint!!!!

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      1. Demí
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        Oh jeez

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        1. 4vets
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          Teetering? Cold shower, NOW! 😉

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          1. Demí
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            Too late 😳

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            1. 4vets
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              The thought... no... just no! 😉

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              1. Demí
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                Don't you start ... 😉

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                1. 4vets
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                  I wouldn't know where to begin!

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  8. ssssshhh
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    Spain are too good!

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  9. The Milkman
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    RvP has been rubbish tonight.

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    1. Cruicky
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      So has Nani, saving the performance for the weekend I guess.

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  10. weeurquahrt
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    that spain make you feckin sick how good they are come scotland i love you

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    1. super zlatan
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      England are better. LOL

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    2. ssssshhh
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      scotland make me feckin sick how rubbish they are

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    3. Smarty Pants
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      Germany will beat them next year. They are good as well and they are the Germans.

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  11. weeurquahrt
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    p.s look,s like our portugesse brother,s are in the same boat as us

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  12. Pickled and Preserved
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    Vorm or Al-Habsi for this week?

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    1. super zlatan
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      Vorm

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  13. super zlatan
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    Nice pen from willie

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    1. 4vets
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      The pen is from willie? 😉

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  14. andy85wsm
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    Sweden qualify as best second place team. bet Garg is happy!

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    1. super zlatan
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      I'm happy too. Get in Sweden. Great result

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  15. ssssshhh
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    Goodwillie.......he he he

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  16. Cruicky
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    Lol Valdes - lucky he plays for Barca and Spain otherwise would be exposed quite a bit more I reckon.

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  17. ssssshhh
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    Rush of blood to the willie!

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  18. Password is Taco
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    Starting Woes: Between Martin Petrov, Danny Murphy, Jose Enrique, and Gabby Agbonlahor, which 2 should I start? I'm leaning towards Petrov and Murphy, because the other 2 are going up against the Manchesters (and P&M are going up against relative cupcakes). That being said, I've rued sitting Enrique the past 2 weeks like a dummy. I just don't think this is his week, but I don't want to get burned again either.

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    1. wrong
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      do you have either rooney, nani or kompany?

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      1. Password is Taco
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        All 3, actually

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        1. Password is Taco
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          I figured the "lock" for starters were Rooney + Adebayor, Silva + Nani + Ramsey, Kompany + Bosingwa + Shawcross.

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        2. wrong
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          if you are playing nani and rooney then you must be thinking liverpool are going to concede and if you are playing kompany then you must be doubting agbonlahors ability to score

          therefore i would play petrov and murphy (tho i dont like fulham away very much)

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          1. Password is Taco
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            Thanks, Wrong - yep, that's pretty much my thinking. City haven't allowed a goal at home yet (and despite Ag's individual form, I'm not entirely convinced Villa won't play extra safe), and I just don't think Liverpool have a clean sheet in them either. I think basically, it's down to either Enrique gets assist/bonus points, or Murphy maybe picks up something extra. If Murphy does, then that means I lose my CS points from Shawcross and would be double-pissed if he (Murphy) is sitting on my bench.

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  19. Dave1966
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    Any injuries from tonights games?

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    1. The Milkman
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      Corluka and Ramsey.

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      1. 4vets
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        It's not big, it's not funny. Why bother?

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  20. Sir Ledley
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    was M Petrov suspended for tonight's game?

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    1. 4vets
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      No, he played as farr as I know. Did sweet fa though...

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      1. Sir Ledley
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        http://www.skysports.com/football/match_commentary/0,19764,11065_3263210,00.html

        sky only has the one petrov on the commentary team sheet - hmm. . .

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  21. Dave1966
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    Just seen Bergovic has been subbed off in his game injured??

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    1. Dave1966
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      Scrap that he has come on for the other keeper

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      1. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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        Cabaye and Malouda have both just been subbed off for France, neither of them looked injured though. Curious decision, as Malouda had looked France's most promising player, whereas Nasri has been almost invisible all game. Still 1-0 to Bosnia - it looks like being 1993 all over again for France...

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  22. Timmy Cahill Rules
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    is odemwingie injured or not ?

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    1. Mark
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      12 years, 8 months ago

      Hodgson has denied that he needs an op and expects him to be available vs Wolves.

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        cheers

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  23. Pomp and Circumstance
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    is Andrew Johnson a good add? currently have Yakubu as my 3rd striker

    Yakubu and Blackburn face: QPR away, Tottenham home, Norwich away
    Johnson and Fulham have: Stoke away, Everton home, Wigan away

    thanks!

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      12 years, 8 months ago

      it was a one off game johnson is average at best

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    2. ssssshhh
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      Hmmm, maybe but I'm not loving Fulhams fixtures beyond that. No great options in that price range though.

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  24. Cruicky
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    Hmmmmm. Just seen on goal.com that Vidic missed a penalty for Serbia.

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  25. Salah’s Sonnet
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    12 years, 8 months ago

    Holy friggin crap! just read a comment at top of page saying RVP is injured!!! so scrolled right to the bottom to post this to see if it is true?!!

    i should of read up top first but please someone confirm he isn't, please!!!! lol 🙂

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    1. teto
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      he isnt

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
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        praise the lord, why make up such a rumour, doesnt impress lol 🙂

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  26. FPL Daniel
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    Ramsey finished the game unscratched right? How did he played? Anybody watching the game?

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  27. teto
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    That much more closer to doing Silva (c) this GW

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    1. Salah’s Sonnet
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      it was only scotland thought wasn't it really. plus city haven't really played anyone of class so far, villa will be a tough game for city imo 🙂

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      1. teto
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        I agree with you to an extent. Although I love that he's being that much more aggressive, not afraid to shoot

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      2. Kings of Lyon ★
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        Ok i'm going to bite, Silva played amazing tonight but he was surrounded by 7 players who play for barca. Only Scotland? 8 players play in the premiership, a keeper who would walk into at least 15 of the teams in the premiership and Naismith & the best striker in the championship. Silva is good, but to say 'only Scotland' is harsh.

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        1. teto
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          I guess your Scottish? 🙂
          Sadly, your right about the barca part

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          1. Kings of Lyon ★
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            Is it obvious ? 🙂

            Im right about it all 😛

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        2. Salah’s Sonnet
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          lol its not that harsh mate, everyone knows scotland have always underperformed, yes, 8 players may play in the premiership, but just like england, when thrown together, they dont perform, simple as that. Spain are a whole different class altogether, like 'different planet' class. 🙂

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      3. Manamongst
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        Did you see the same Villa play the past few weeks I´ve seen? Bannan looked decent tonight, but in all seriousness he had his hands full, and I doubt that Villa will put as many behind the ball as Scotland did tonight...scratch that, I forgot who Villas coach was.

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  28. Kings of Lyon ★
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    Spirited performance by the Scots but the damage was done against the Czechs

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    1. Granville
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      Hope that referee takes a good look at himself, those bad penalty decisions were crucial.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        They really were. He has been dropped by Uefa and is no longer representing Holland at the championships. We let the Czechs back into the game so it's partly our fault, possitives can be taken as the future looks bright.

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  29. sachmo
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    What do you guys think of Aguero > RVP for the next few GW's? Will mean I take a 4pt hit and lose £0.2...but RVP could do well, especially in the next 2 compared with Aguero...

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    1. teto
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      Aside from ManU Aguero has pretty good chances of scoring if fit.RVP has got Stoke at home and chelsea coming up..

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  30. teto
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    Anyone else looking at RVP for GW 11-16?

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    1. differentgravy
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      rvp for sure next 2 weeks

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