Technical Area

The Technical Area- Rooney Drops Deeper at Everton

The 6-1 home hammering at the hands of Man City has clearly had an effect. Humbled in front of their own fans, with Sir Alex Ferguson describing it as the “worst result in my history”, United’s line-up for last weekend’s trip to Goodison raised more than a few eyebrows.

The role assigned to Wayne Rooney will have many a Fantasy manager fretting. With Fergie seeking extra solidity, Rooney dropped into central midfield, allowing Javier Hernandez to lead the line as the lone frontman but, ahead of a favourable run of fixtures, it’s the last thing his Fantasy owners want to contemplate. Tonight’s Champions League line-up against Otelul Galati will only further deepen the concern, with Rooney once again selected in the United midfield, with Michael Owen and Dimitar Berbatov leading the line. We take a look at Rooney’s last two league games to see just how they differ:

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A look at Rooney’s average position in the City game (above) shows Rooney’s (10) tendency to drop deep, even when United play 4-4-2. With City so much in control, though, Danny Welbeck (19) was also deep- both Ashley Young (18) and Nani (17) stayed high and wide and with a far from compact shape, United were torn apart by their clinical opponents.

The Everton match (above) shows Rooney was, on average, in an almost identical position when in possession, despite his new midfield role. The main difference, though, is how this compares in relation to the team mates around him. There is no width, no players further forward- Hernandez (14) dropped deep when on the ball and is obscured by Rooney (10) here. United’s defence-minded outlook offered little ahead of Rooney for him to make any significant attacking contribution.

Passing

Against City, Rooney made a total of 57 passes. A look at the chalkboard again shows how he came deep to link with the midfield, with 47% of all passes coming in the middle of the central third of the pitch. Remarkably, this is almost identical to the Everton match; here, Rooney also makes 57 passes, with 49% coming in the same area.

It’s when you look at the other areas of the field that the difference is more substantial; against City, for example, 28% of Rooney’s passes were from positions on the flank. With Young and Nani providing plenty width, he had far less a tendency to move from the centre in comparison to his display at Goodison- 38% of his distribution came from the wings against David Moyes’ side as he sought space in order to make an impact.

The most significant area for Rooney, though, the centre of the final third, shows a definite decrease in attacking potential over the two games. Against City, 22% (13% + 4% + 5%) of Rooney’s passes came in this vital area as he prompted and probed, looking for openings- against Everton, Rooney’s impact in this crucial part of the field halved, down to 11% (7% +4%). With Fergie reining in his star forward’s attacking sensibilities, their potency clearly diminished.

A look at United’s preferred passing in each game is also instructive. Against City, Rooney received 15 passes from Welbeck- the most balls from any team mate- and played 6 passes to his fellow-forward- a total of 21 passes between the United frontmen.

In the Goodison game, though, it was a different matter; Rooney received more passes (7) from Jonny Evans than any other United player, with Phil Jones and Patrice Evra next best on 6; an indication of how deep he dropped to gain possession at times. Ahead of him, Rooney barely linked up with Hernandez at all; he played just 2 successful passes to the Mexican, receiving 3 in return. Compare that to the interplay with Welbeck against City, and there’s a definite drop in attacking intent.

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Post-match, Fergie explained the thinking behind his decision to move Rooney back:

It’s about time we won 1-0. That was the aspect of the game that pleased me most, that and restricting Everton to very few chances. We had to do something about the fact that opponents have been getting too many opportunities to score against us in recent weeks. We knew we had to reduce that number if we are going to win the league, and reinforcing the midfield was one way of doing it. We brought Wayne back to increase our numbers in midfield.

Perhaps a look at the statistics will make the United boss think twice, though. In no way did his side restrict Everton’s chances: over the season so far, they have averaged 19 shots against per game- on Saturday, Everton fired in 19 goal attempts again. If anything, his tactics only had a detrimental effect on his own side’s endeavors going forward- United have averaged 16 shots per game so far this season, whereas at Goodison last weekend, they mustered 7 all game.

Indeed, David De Gea saved more shots (8) than United managed over the entire ninety minutes. From a central midfield position, Rooney had just 1 shot against his old club- not what you’d want from a 12.2 Fantasy prospect, particularly with the likes of Robin Van Persie tearing up the top-flight right now.

Clearly, Fergie holds no fears of utilising Rooney in a different role if he feels it’s beneficial to the team as a whole- a spell out wide a couple of seasons back proves testament to that. The uncertainty has clearly had an effect- so far, Rooney has been sold on by 72,000 Fantasy managers this week, despite a home clash with Sunderland up next. Tonight’s performance will give his 41% of Fantasy owners plenty to mull over- another game from deep without any attacking rewards could cause many to rethink over the forthcoming international break.

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  1. Kings of Lyon ★
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    Come on CSKA make me rich

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  2. Mid-Table Obscurity
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    quick question. in my team i rotate dyer and moses each week depending on which has the better fixture. i have 1.3 in the bank and im looking to get on to everton's good run of fixtures. what would you do:

    a) bring in drenthe for moses/dyer
    b) wait till after the newcastle game (for 2 free transfers) and drop dyer to a 4.5 mid that plays regularly and go kompany to baines.

    not too worried about losing kompany for city's tough run in the mid-term. help please?

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    1. Hect.OR 98th
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      A after this week

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      1. Mid-Table Obscurity
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        interesting you say that when you have dyer and moses too, are you looking to get rid of one?

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        1. Hect.OR 98th
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          Oh yes! Have decided to let Dyer go. Probably Ramsey in. Just making sure VDV doesnt play and get injured tomorrow first

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          1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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            He isn't in squad so defo wont play lol

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            1. Hect.OR 98th
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              I'd forgotten that, thanks! Just need to check my players get through tonight.

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  3. Fancy Feet
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    I am doing Rooney to Ba tonight to fund a mid of VDV, Nani, Silva and Mata should I do it? At least I am sure Ba will play upfront and is on pens as well

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    1. Fernando Torres
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      too much in midfield, i had that midfield, i wouldn't have nani or mata tbh.

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    2. Hect.OR 98th
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      No. Rooney's fixtures beat Ba's and him being OOP may not continue.

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    3. eviemonkey
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      Don't think Ba is on pens if Cabaye is on the pitch

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    4. Optimus.
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      thats my midfield and i have rvp/ade/studge up top

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    5. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      cabaye usually takes the penos, he was off the field when the peno against stoke was awarded, ba can take it in his place tho

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    6. Jimmers
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      Newcastle have City, United and Chelsea after Everton match!

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  4. Menly
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    Guys is thus a good idea? Murphy > sessegnon and Sinclair > drenthe. Agreed?

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    1. Hect.OR 98th
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      Yes but Ramsey better than Sess if you have the funds

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      1. Menly
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        Yeah I guess I could do that, but I have RVP and I was thinkin he is adequate arsenal coverage?
        It would be a 4 point hit btw

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        1. Hect.OR 98th
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          Just do one of them then

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          1. Menly
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            Ok I reckon Murphy out but who in? Ramsey/sess/drenthe?

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            1. Hect.OR 98th
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              Ramsey

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              1. Menly
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                Hmm ok thanks for your help hector 😀

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                1. Hect.OR 98th
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                  Pleasure

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  5. Henry Hill
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    I thought Viera was on ITV with Keano?

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    1. Hect.OR 98th
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      I thought Viera WAS a TV

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    2. Shipstontrev
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      He's been taken to hosptal after Roy spiked his prawn sandwich...

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    3. Henry Hill
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      Roy had this to say about pundits before, wonder why he has changed his tune!

      I was asked by ITV to do the Celtic versus Manchester United game but I've done it once for Sky and never again. I'd rather go to the dentist.

      'You're sitting there with people like Richard Keys and they're trying to sell something that's not there.

      'Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say "he's playing well" and I'm thinking "no, he's not."

      'My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinions.

      'There was a debate about Arsene Wenger on Sky and how crazy is that? People are actually getting interviewed saying he shouldn't be doing this.

      'What that man's done for English football is amazing and will be remembered in 25, 50, 100 years. Will those on telly yesterday be remembered for what they've achieved?
      None whatsoever. I wouldn't trust them to walk my dog.

      'There are ex-players and ex-referees being given air-time who I wouldn't listen to in a pub.'

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        I wouldn't trust Ray Wilkins to walk Roy's dog either.

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  6. DV8R
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    Rooney -> Hernandez (c)?

    Rooney in midfield again, can't see it changing tbh

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    1. DV8R
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      RVP captain but should I still do Rooney -> Hernandez?

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    2. Menly
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      Maybe its a tough one. Hernandez gets a lot of bench time :/

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    3. Jonah
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      If you literally cant see Rooney playing up front again you are a complete moron.

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      1. DV8R
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        Well, not for a few gameweeks...

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  7. unoaime
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    So what does todays lineup tell us about Evans? Is he worth it or not?

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    1. heartsattack
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      I nearly done the transfer last night but I find short term transfers often lead to hits later on. He won't be a regular starter long so I'm not bothering.

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      1. Gavin - Gers in turmoil!!!
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        I brought Evans in, to be honest not worth spending any money on defence this season. Still got my wildcard if this starts to change

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        1. heartsattack
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          Getting Evans may well work and could work very well. Recently I found myself having to transfer out de laet and I'm going to have to transfer out one of Simpson and r Taylor before Newcastles terrible fixtures.

          I just don't want to waste another transfer on a defender shifting Evans out in 3 weeks or so. I don't have my wildcard though.

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  8. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
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    Tonight's game is proving the article above correct. Man U are still vulnerable defensively but have blunted their attack by dropping Rooney deep. I hope Fergie is paying attention 🙁

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  9. Corrigan
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    Beyond the next two, Swansea's fixtures are excellent. Would hold on to Naylor and Sinclair for much longer.

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    1. Menly
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      Cheers mark I was actually literally about to ask that, considering I have both if those and vorm

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      1. Corrigan
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        I probably wouldn't even bench Sinc. Pool have failed to keep a CS at home and Utd aren't looking watertight. I'm watching them now...

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        1. Menly
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          Yeah they're really not. And sinclair has a nack for acquiring penalties.
          On the subject of united's leakages, I'm considering Murphy > sess. Do you reckon its a good idea? I mean he's on form and he's got some good fixtures (debatablely after/including united.)

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        2. DV8R
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          What should I do about Sinclair and Graham? Play both or just play Sinclair?

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          1. Corrigan
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            Murphy to Sess? *strokes chin* Considering fixtures it seems very sound after the international break. Murphy won't be getting many pens I wouldn't have thought. I'm looking at one of Sess, Larsson or Bendtner for their excellent fixtures. Shame that Larsson didn't get his 5th booking for Old Trafford.

            I have bad memories of Sess but he was excellent at the back end of last season. Seemed more productive than Suarez!

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            1. Corrigan
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              *double negative!

              And I'd play Sinclair for his pens. Interesting policy to have both. Toyed with it in pre-season.

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            2. Menly
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              I have bad memories of suarez! Ah well best not to dwell those.
              I do want to get rid of Danny but who to put in is giving me a headache! Drenthe is a possible, larsson also (though he'd clean me out of cash)!
              Some have suggested Ramsey, but I reckon RVP is all the arsenal coverage one can get...
              May just save the transfer...
              I don't feel like changing my defense. It's no fun changing defense

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  10. Optimus.
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    nani isnt exactly filling me with confidence looking at this tonight

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    1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      + 1

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      1. Valar(Keith)
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        nani to ramsey and suarez to rvp next week for me looks like.. gonna keep nani this weekend

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  11. Waldaz
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    Milito really has lost his touch, just missed two incredible sitters.

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  12. JoeySamSam
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    Would it be sensible to get rid of balotelli as he started today and so is unlikely to at the weekend?

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  13. Valar(Keith)
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    so who else captainin aguero this weekend after his rest tonight? qpr are horrid

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    1. Menly
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      Take that back

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    2. MrJefferson
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      how long did rvp play last nite?

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      1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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        30 mins

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      2. Henry Hill
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        30 minutes, Arsenal were toothless without him surprise surprise

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    3. Demí
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      I would if i didn't already have RVP in my team waiting to fill his boots.

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    4. Pomp and Circumstance
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      I was thinking about making Suarez captain; I do also have Aguero

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      1. Valar(Keith)
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        gotta decide between suarez and aguero.. leanin towards a clinical rested aguero

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  14. Pomp and Circumstance
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    two defensive transfers planned--do you agree with them?

    D. Simpson (of Newcastle) --> Wilkinson (Stoke)
    and
    R. Johnson (Wolves) --> W. Brown (Sunderland)

    the first perhaps for this week, the second the next week

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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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      They look decent but am not sure about Sunderland's GK situation now with Mignolet out. Have no idea how good Westwood is and he looks like the likely replacement.

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    2. JoeySamSam
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      I don't agree, I wouldn't get rid of Simpson tall, but if you must, do the brown one first

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      1. Pomp and Circumstance
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        12 years, 7 months ago

        Newcastle have Man City (away), Man Utd (away), Chelsea (home) after this week's home fixture with Everton--fixtures for Newcastle get more favorable then in December; I'd consider bringing D. Simpson back then, provided he is still first-choice

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    3. Sleep Talk
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      I see no point in getting Simpson out for Wilkinson this week as they both will score approximately the same amount of points this week. Would then rather save the extra transfer. Johnson > Brown is a good tranfer next week though.

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      1. Pomp and Circumstance
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        thanks; I'm inclined to save the extra transfer, then maybe make both defensive changes

        just want to do ok with value changes; have already lost 0.2 on R. Johnson, as I decided to keep him for the Wigan home game, before then planning to transfer him out

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  15. MrJefferson
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    have 3.9m in the bank, should i do ward>kompany/richards/baines or sturridge.>hernandez/saurez

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    1. heartsattack
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      I think Hernandez will get a lot of goals in the next few weeks, so get him.

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    2. JoeySamSam
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      Ward > Richards

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  16. Wild Rover
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    If it's any consolation, if this was FPL and the game ended now I reckon Rooney would get a bap with 3 to Valencia and 1 to Jones. 🙂

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  17. Tangerine Army XI
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    Silva looks in a bit of pain

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    1. Tim Canterbury
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      injured

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      1. MrJefferson
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        silva looks in bad shape

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    2. Timmy Cahill Rules
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      I bought him a few days ago typical of my luck

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      1. Jonah
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        Hate to say it but classic example of the danger of early transfers.

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        1. Timmy Cahill Rules
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          Looks like Joseph allen will be getting his debut for me

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  18. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    Fabian Frei equalises for Basel

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    1. Demí
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      Says Benjamin huggel on the livescore centre. Was it definitely Frei, also who assisted?

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    2. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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      Sorry my mistake, Huggel scored, Chipperfield assist.

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      1. Anorak
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        Ooh you tease. Had my hopes up there.

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  19. Tangerine Army XI
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    Adam Johnson coming on for Silva who is holding his back 🙁

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  20. SPorting
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    Silva struggling after a knock?

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    1. McDog
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      Hopefully its just a precaution

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      1. Andy
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        It's a precaution, sure, but there's no doubt he looked to be in a certain measure of pain/discomfort.

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      2. SPorting
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        hopefully you're right

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        1. Tangerine Army XI
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          Looked in agony when he went to sit on the bench

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          1. Fernando Torres
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            great doctors ^^

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  21. lazybones18
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    PLZ once advice

    Rooney and Moses out for
    Hernandez and walters

    Since rooney is midfield FAIL now

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    1. SPorting
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      hold your horses......Silva just went off.

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      1. lazybones18
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        OMG
        o well time to use wildcard...

        shawcross-silva-moses-Rudd-Kompany = garbage

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        1. MrJefferson
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          silva and kompany re season keepers

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          1. UnderstandablyDistraught
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            well said

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  22. Rts
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    I can't be the only one who thinks Rooney is better much further forward or even in the hole? Even Anderson is playing further forward than him at times

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    1. PlayPercentage
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      SAF is losing it.
      The Man City defeat must have really shook him up.

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      1. Rts
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        Can't say I disagree even as a united fan.. It is scary comparing united's mid/attack with Man City's Mid/attack... No good for De Gea having a different back four in front of him every game either..

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  23. Wild Rover
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    Capello at the game, obviously wanted to see what a team with no Rooney in attack looks like... 🙄

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  24. Rowley Birkin
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    Soooo Rooney to RVP?

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    1. SPorting
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      ah, the age old question.....i say YES!

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      1. Menly
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        Indeed

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  25. Tangerine Army XI
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    4-0 Blackpool!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

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  26. Kings of Lyon ★
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    come on CSKA ya russian fuds 🙂

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  27. PlayPercentage
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    I want to get rid of DeLaet.
    Wilkinson (Stoke) looks cheap at 4.0. He's played the last 5 games.
    What's the catch?

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    1. heartsattack
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      Stoke aren't playing very well?

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  28. Tangerine Army XI
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    3-0

    YY Toure again

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  29. McDog
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    Yaya on fire! 3-0

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  30. Lrf
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    All the Rooney->Hernandez transfers is looking too risky to me. Rooney is United's first choice striker, even if he plays in midfield today, and he will be nailed on to get alot of goals when United hit form again. And did I mention that he is on penalties and freekicks? And Hernandez is a rotation risk.

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