The Knee Jerk

The Knee Jerk – Robin Red Faced

“He is an exceptional player and when you feed him in the box, he’s deadly.”

You see, we kind of knew all that. We realised that, against Blackburn, particularly a Blackburn reduced to ten men after half an hour, Van Persie had the tools to destroy them and deliver massive returns. The problem Mr Wenger, is that on Friday afternoon you uttered this…

“I will rotate a little bit because many players have given a lot…[With Van Persie] the temptation is there.”

That was news to us Fantasy managers. That put the frighteners on and, despite our attempt this morning to deconstruct that statement and put up arguments against the idea of resting Van Persie, some took action. Indeed, two of the top four ranked Fantasy Premier League managers opted to give the armband to Sergio Aguero – perhaps oblivious to Wenger’s threats, but more likely as a result of them.

The very idea of us, a site dedicated to passing information to Fantasy Football managers, ignoring the quotes from Wenger was never a viable option. We turned a blind eye to Friday’s Sun report, but when Wenger speaks, we had to report it. So, to counter that, in this morning’s Preamble, we stressed the need to keep faith with Van Persie and hope that Wenger resisted the gamble. Hopefully, that helped some in their decision to sit tight.

Is there a lesson to be learned? Certainly the fact that Van Persie remained on the pitch to provide an assist to Thierry Henry with the score at 6-1, indicates that the idea of resting Van Persie didn’t cross Wenger’s mind once the goals started flowing. Had Van Persie been tiring, had he been desperate for a break – why was he left on the pitch when the match was dead and buried?

Only Wenger has the answers, and it seems we’ll never quite work out his thinking when it comes to Van Persie. With the Champions League programme looming, we can surely expect more uncertainly, perhaps some smokescreens.

However, today surely confirmed that we can ill afford to take risks with Van Persie and the armband. There is no better Fantasy damage dealer and if there’s a chance that he will be on the pitch, particularly against abject opposition, we have to back him. That policy may cost us – there may well be occasions when Van Persie will be left fidgeting on the bench whilst sporting our armbands. The question is, will those who suffer that fate feel any worse that those who missed out on today’s incredible haul? Right now, in this Knee Jerk, it seems unlikely.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    A word of comfort for people (me) who didn't captain RVP

    Cheer up, it may not be as bad as you imagine. If you captained Aguero instead you are only 11 points* worse off, despite it seeming like more; hardly the end of the world.

    Over 62% don't even own him at all and as is obvious from the posts on here, a great many of those didn't capt him (one of my rivals capt Cisse) 🙂

    Oh, and it's only a game! 😉

    *assumes they both get 3 baps

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Well, I guess 50 % of the people who has an account on FPL, AREN'T PLAYING IT

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Including many RVP owners?

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    2. Back on the horse
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      and you can play in the snow tomorrow.

      p.s. double that 11

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Eh?

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      2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        RVP (c) - 46 + Aguero 12 = 58

        Aguero (c) 24 + RVP 23 = 47

        Not that much a loss tbh

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        1. Back on the horse
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          ah assuming you have them both, yeah

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          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            Well you wouldn't have been able to capt RVP if you didn't have him.. 🙂

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            1. Back on the horse
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              true. I didnt read your post in that much detail 🙂

              people love to correct on this site 😕

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              1. Pinturicchio
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 3 months ago

                *didn't 🙂

                I'm just being a D**K

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      3. Pinturicchio
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        11 is correct

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      this is the thing. as long as they're in your team it's not that bad at all - 11 points is not a lot.

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    4. craka2011
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      van persie got 40 points as captain without bp aguero got 18 points as cap without bp so isnt that 22 points difference this is painfull as was going to cap van persie but opted for aguero

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Maths not your strong point?

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      2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        no it's only 11 points difference. as long as you have them both it's all good.

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      3. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Another noob. 😕

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        1. cup_final_game
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          40 - 18 = 22....

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          1. Wild Rover
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            You can't read or do maths then...

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    5. COMH
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      22 points difference between a captained RVP and Aguero assuming they both get the 3 bps.

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Er no it isn't...

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        1. COMH
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          I wasn't considering Aguero's standard points if you captain RVP and vice versa so yeah 11 points. Not as bad as it seems.

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      2. Pinturicchio
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        You should have paid more attention in the maths class :-p

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        1. COMH
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          See above little Juan. Too quick to jump on a reply son.

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    6. सनकी
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I captained Ba. top that?

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  2. rdb
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Really confused what to do with cisse! My team is

    sorenson lindegaard
    d.simp evans komp shotton kelly
    bale silva sess demp ferg
    rvp aguero cisse

    have 4.2m in the bank
    a)valencia for ferguson
    b)ba for cisse
    c)save transfer and keep 2 for next week
    d) any other suggestions?

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    1. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      C

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    2. ricdan
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      B

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    3. Pinturicchio
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      See how Ba does tomorrow then bring him in, if he hasn't lost the magic

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  3. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    So Huth now needs 2.5 as many transfers out than normal to drop?

    A: When a player is either injured, doubtful, suspended or ineligible then the (i) next to their name on FPL will be flagged red or yellow.
    Q: Does this mean the player is protected from any price drop?
    A: NO – absolutely not and this is a major mistake many people make. Anyone who is flagged will still be able to increase and decrease in value. The increase NTI target stays the same. However the NTO Threshold for a price drop is approximately 2.5 times greater than the usual Threshold for price drops.
    Q: Why is that?
    A: The general thinking here is that when a player is injured or suspended, naturally a lot of people will want to sell that player. In order to ensure their price doesn’t fall dramatically, the Threshold is increased.
    Q: So if a player’s NTO Threshold was 40,000, it’s now going to be 2.5 times greater than that when they are flagged – so 100,000?

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  4. Well you know, Triffic
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    My mates on 8 points so far, haven't heard from him all day....

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1702698/event-history/24/

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Now that is funny

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Ouch.

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    2. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Nice team name 😆

      Not very PC

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    3. Low-Life
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Lol. Just what kind of mates do you have with team names like that?!

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      1. COMH
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        His name is Mohammed he is allowed to use it.

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  5. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Just put the feelers out on this transfer:

    Lindy / Huth / Brown all out for

    Mignolet / Caulker / Demps

    would take an 8 pointer, but that lot are fooked for weeks and they seem like decent long-term trannies.

    Crazy?

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    1. Dr Bronner
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Just tried to reply ,not sure if it got through or not. my verdict was all good transfers even with a hit but only as long as you haven't got decent replacement for them currently and could slowly edge them out without a hit

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, would be better to do them gradually, but finances are tight with Demps going through the bloody roof.

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    2. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      B*llocks.

      Would be Walters out, not Brown.

      Lindy / Huth / Walters for Mig / Caulk / Demps

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  6. Beamer
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Please Ben Arfa/ Gerrard don play... I have OX in the bench...

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    1. Dr Bronner
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      ouch, you might get lucky with ben arfa but I doubt it. Gerrard almost certain to play?

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    2. Manamongst
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Did you watch either Barfa or Ox play last week?

      what were you thinking? If you're lucky Obertan will start for ben Arfa...but he'll likely come on for Obertan with 20 minutes left.

      good luck buddy.

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  7. thespirit
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Hey guys!

    Which will you think will be best for next gws?

    Zamora or Ba?

    Sometimes when they return from those tournaments their for tends to drop.

    I would appreciate some help

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    1. Silent Alarm
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Something i am also pondering. If Zamora was on pens it'd help

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      feed the sheep

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    3. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Ba

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  8. the axolotl
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    average prediction? i'll go with about 45.

    also why do they play with a yellow ball instead of orange in the snow?

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    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      ever heard of yellow snow 😉

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      1. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        yeah some of the stoke players looked like they were pissing themselves all right. the cameraman had a few problems following the ball as well.

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  9. v12w12
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Scores for Liverp v Spurs and Newca v Aston V???

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      They haven't played yet.

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        1-0
        2-1

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        1. v12w12
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers 🙂

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  10. Beamer
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Best replacement for Huth?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I stuck in Evans and got more money to play with

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  11. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Keeping Vorm & Dyer has cost me plenty just ina few weeks. Guess I deserved it by not planning my WC the best. 🙁

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  12. Cruicky
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    My team:

    RVP(c): 40pts.
    Taiwo, Huth, Kompany, Moses, Morison, Silva: 5pts.

    Had Sessegnon and Surman before WC as well - tragic.

    Any sign of postponements?

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  13. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Sunderland 5/1 to finish seventh...

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      i'd take that bet at the moment. Instead of who tho... liverpool, newcastle maybe

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    2. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Not gonna happen though!

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  14. Canadian Football
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    High average this week i suspect. I have 75 with 3 to play. In "anyother week" it would be the equivalent of 50 with 3 to play. Not expecting much of a Green Arrow I am hoping to crack the TOP 10,000 ranking. WOuld like to break 100 points though.

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Sunderland coverage has killed me 3 games in a row!! Should i bring in sess or McClean?

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      1. Canadian Football
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        hey my canadian friend....like your mids.....reo coker for Maclean. I would not break it for sess.....MAta will come good over teh next 5 weeks.

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          was actually considering mata>silva this week

          But now thinking its better to do dawson>richards.

          Thouhgts? i dont reckon bringing mcclean in vs arsenal will do any damage, as i am a gunners fan 🙂

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  15. सनकी
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Krul|Mignolet

    Jevans|Kompany|BAE|Simpson|Caulker

    Silva|Bale|Sess|Valencia|Dempsey

    RVP|Ba|Morison

    i want to get rid of morison>zamora but short of funds. Suggestions are welcome.

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    1. Fulgencio Obelmejias
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      BAE to a cheapie?

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  16. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    average 30pts!?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Looks like everyone survives my leagues. Plenty have players from the 6 teams left.

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Man U Newcastle and Spurs yet to play. Have three of the highest ownerships.
      Not everybody has RVP.

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    3. Retro
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      A lot of big teams haven't played yet, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liv, Spurs, Newcastle. It's only people on this website that have teams stuffed with Sunderland players.

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  17. luke
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    average 30??

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    1. weeurquahrt
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      cant be right . anyway 65 points with zamora captain .
      thought iwas in for a mauling in my league but managed to keep up with the leaders.

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  18. keeney
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Average 30. My 85 off 9 is looking pretty awesome

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      That's a cracking score.

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    2. luke
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      my 63 will likely give me a red arrow, go figure

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Small green probably.

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        1. luke
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          miniscule if at all, oh well at least i decimate my cup opponent.... unless Suarez goes ballistic

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    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      85 !! Thats a good score but lots to come yet

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    4. Bad Pen
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      A good week for me also, 83 off 7.

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      1. keeney
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Still have Simpson and bale hoping the rest
        Of the weekend games get called off, I'll have
        Dempsey n Kelly off the bench for 3points

        Gives us some double game week too look
        Forward to

        Thanks for the comments 🙂

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  19. Declan-
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1458427/event-history/24/

    and he was doing so well

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      who's that?

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Is that DBronaldo?

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        1. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          he's someone in my mini league. He's never had rvp

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  20. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    57 ranks me at 410k

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Green arrows for everyone 🙂

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      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Me thinks I will get a red arrow...

        Still 5 to play thou....

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Good rank means you are probably right.

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    2. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      71 = 35,478

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  21. Animals & Scandals
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Assou-Ekotto and Shotton -> Bardsley and Shawcross.
    Both free.

    Yay or nay?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Too many red and white stripes in the team !!

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      1. Animals & Scandals
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        Right, but apart from that 😉

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        1. Spike ⚽️
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 3 months ago

          Dont like Stoke defenders. I put Huth in for BAE about 1125 today and shifted him about 1525 !!

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          1. Animals & Scandals
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 3 months ago

            I see.
            Maybe just Shotton->Caulker will be enough.

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            1. Back on the horse
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 3 months ago

              what's your username all about? is it a band?

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  22. Henry Hill
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Trebling up on Arsenal attack was a great move by this chap:

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/491254/event-history/24/

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    1. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Be-limey.

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    2. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Top man with top score

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      nice visual effect addition by FPL there of the scraped snow patch near chamberlain. just like the games today.

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  23. 7923dos
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone have any info as to why TotalFPL seem to have stopped predicting bonus points?

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  24. jms
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Good day for my captains. Just saw that Drogba has a brace (with a Yaya Toure goal thrown in)

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  25. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Ba hattrick tomoro! 🙂

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    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      🙂

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  26. Fillo_
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1283752/event-history/24/ an OK score for my brother this gameweek...

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  27. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    The fact that the average is 30 and RVP as capt got 40 alone shows how relatively few overall captained him. I wouldn't get too carried away with that average though, there will be plenty who still have most of their team to play.

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      yeah most here have higher scores than me at the moment and i have rvp (c) and aguero. the rest of my team plays tomorrow.

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  28. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    anyone here who doesn't have RVP at all?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      There's 44% of them out there !!

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        No its 64% . The fools !!

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    2. gravless
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      8)

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    3. CABAYE4
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I didn't until this week. Thank god I got over my stubborness and got him in eventually!

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    4. Back on the horse
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      got him in my WCT for the first time. cost me though obv. could have been so different though, any other season and he would have broekn both legs long ago

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  29. Holy See
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    Has Benitez taken up darts? Jayz the similarity is scary.

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  30. Adagios26
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 3 months ago

    67 pts with 4 players left. Walters is useless, has some good games ahead but i dont believe him anymore. Stoke is getting worse and worse.

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      yeah stoke is just not performing anymore. i wildcarded all stoke players out actually, plus they resume europa league soon which will impact them more.

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    2. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      I got Walters in instead of Demps (before his hat-trick) on my WC. I'm not Walters's biggest fan at the moment.

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 3 months ago

        you mean you're his biggest anti-fan 😉

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    3. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Yep I agree but Huth had to go first and Walters after next week !!

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    4. Adagios26
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 3 months ago

      Everybody talks about Huth, I pick Shawcross in WC team, but I should go for Evans :X

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