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The Numbers Game – Festive Form – Defenders

Continuing our round-up of the Christmas period, it’s time to treat our members to a series of articles which examines each of the positions and analyses the form of the key protagonists over the past four Gameweeks. We start in defence, by casting an eye over the top tens for our ICT Index, plus a more in-depth look at the main performers in terms of goal threat and creativity….

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. dribbler
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Guys I know Mertesacker was ill but is there any chance he's actually dropped? Or any credible chat about it?

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  2. Willis.
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    On my WC. Which transfers would you do?

    A) Ba -> Lambert

    B) Chicharito -> Berbatov

    C) Keep Ba, Chicharito -> Lambert

    D) Both A and B

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  3. Rinseboy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who the hell would I bench from

    Mata, bale, fellani, Michu, Walcott
    RVP, Suarez, lambert??

    I assume Walcott, Suarez or Michu!????

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    1. BootlegRascal
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Michu

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  4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Good to go?

    http://oi47.tinypic.com/2nvtmw3.jpg

    Need to know if Clyne is playing.....

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    1. dribbler
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I'd use up your spare cash to get Cazorla instead of Guthrie as well

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        0 in bank......

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    2. Hey_Arnold
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      how the hell have you afforded that!? Just did it on my ff and I was 3 mil shy! Good effort

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        alot of hits.

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  5. King Nemanja
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    As I bought Suarez back in gw15 for 10.4m, I can sell him in my wildcard and lose lose any money. Make sense with his fixtures?

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Could be a risk. Form>Fixtures.

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      1. dribbler
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        losing losing money never makes sense

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        1. King Nemanja
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          haha, not lose

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      2. King Nemanja
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        True, I'll sleep on it

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  6. The Devil Wears Prada
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    alright, finally done with my wc, barring any injury news

    bego
    luiz, zabaleta, sagna
    mata, walcott, bale, fellaini
    rvp, suarez, ba
    bench: rudd, demel, davies, marveaux

    will upgrade rudd and marveaux to players who get gametime after i downgrade sagna after his dgw.

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    1. megaleg
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Looks pretty damn good to me!! Similar to what I'm affter but I'm guessing your team is higher than mine...

      At the risk of sounding like a stalker, how have you got on this season? I noticed a few months ago that you were one of the few people that had the same defence as me (Ivan, Baines, Rafael I think) and just wondered if you still had a lot of money tied up or spread it around like I eventually decided to (not very successfully mind you!)

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      1. megaleg
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        *I'm guessing your team VALUE is high than mine!

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      2. The Devil Wears Prada
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        it's been up and down, but been good recently. im in top 14k now. i've spread my cash a lot now as you can see.

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        1. megaleg
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          I thought as much, well played! I've been up and down but in top 100k all season, 35k now, but just tried to afford your team (out of interest) and I'm nearly £6 million short!

          Thanks for the reply, and good luck!

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          1. The Devil Wears Prada
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            best of luck!

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  7. chocolove
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    😯
    mata avg ppi score
    home 14 away 29

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  8. The Quiff
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Final question before I go:

    Is Joe Cole a definite starter for West Ham, or will he just be a bit-part player?

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    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Hard to say after one game. I think he will start more often than not.

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      1. The Quiff
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks. I'm considering him for my WC team tomorrow.

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  9. Mile Plankton
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Options for a hit:
    a) Taarabt -> Ramires
    b) Defoe -> Ba
    c) Poldi -> Ba and than do Defoe->Poldi next GW

    BTW I'm doing WC next GW.

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I would not

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      1. Mile Plankton
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I don't really want to go for a hit. But I wanted some opinions.

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    2. Trilogist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Defoe > Ba out of those options.

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  10. DDC
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC team Gents?
    Bego - Turnbull
    Sagna - Azpi - Clyne - Wilson - Demel
    Mata - Walcott - Michu - Fellaini - Puncheon
    RVP - Suarez - Lambert

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    1. Trilogist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Standard. Good picks

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      1. DDC
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        cheers

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    2. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Nice. I would still go with Berba over Lambert. And Wilson can wait cople of weeks more.

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      1. DDC
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        what do you think of Lambert -> Ruiz and Michu -> Bale?

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        1. Mile Plankton
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          That sounds great. But who to bench then. I guess it's on you to decide if you want Lambert just because of DGW. Ruiz is good for 3rd striker with some decent fixtures comming up.

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    3. LOCO ABREU
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      too much saints imo.

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      1. DDC
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Lambert - Ruiz and Michu -> Bale then?

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        1. LOCO ABREU
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          yes but you have to bench one of ruiz/puncheon

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    4. ccc
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Looking good

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    5. Hey_Arnold
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      isnt wilson out? Is it stokes wilson?

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      1. DDC
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        yep but because I'd be playing the DGW players in the next coupe of game weeks, he should be back by when i need him and it saves a transfer

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  11. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else thinking about going with Benteke in their WC? Naile on, decent fixtures, on pens and cheap.

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    1. rvp786
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      nope.

      rvp lambert and berba/suarez/ba

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      1. Feanor
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I still have Benteke but I won't finish my WC transfer till the 29th.

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    2. The EJJ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Not for me, Villa just too awful.

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  12. Rui
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I'm probably gonna use one of 1 WC for the upcoming DGW's (I currently have 2). Does this team look ok for the two weeks?

    Jussi Turnbull
    Luiz Shaw Gibbs Demel Cameron
    Mata Puncheon Walcott Nolan Bale
    Lambert RVP Berb

    3.5m to get 1 more Arsenal in after the first week.

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  13. The EJJ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Ruddy-> Turnbull no brainer right?

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    1. Trilogist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      For free, yes

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  14. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Away from rate my bloody wildcard...who is my avatar pic answers on a post card if you dont have one just leave a comment...

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    1. fdotman
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      jay from the inbetweeners

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    2. dribbler
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      no

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    3. The Quiff
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Leo Messi's less deformed brother?

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    4. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Paddy McCourt, whoever he is.

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    5. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Incorrect.

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    6. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Good shot TorresMagic...tis indeed the Derry Pele Paddy McCourt.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        No idea who he is tbh. Rarely watch Celtic.

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      2. The Quiff
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Dammit, I was going to say that.

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    7. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      One of the finest dribblers and scorers of great goals ever to pull on a pair of Copa Mundials!

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  15. Schnellders24
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Over the next several weeks-

    A) Luiz, Gibbs & Fellaini
    B) Azpilicueta, 4.1 defender (possibly Norwich) & Mata

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  16. In Tommy We Trust
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Can't really believe the lack of Baines in these WC teams. Stats that blow your mind, Fixtures are perfect and he blew up in his last outing.

    Seems that people have seen the DGWs and gone a bit nuts over them.

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    1. Feanor
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      He might be in my WC team on Jan 29th ready for the home game against WBA on the 30th and the home game against Villa on Feb 2nd.

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    2. ccc
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      DGWs cloud the mind

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    3. Trilogist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Agree. Except for the people that don't already have him it puts a big financial hold in your team unless you have a big team val.

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    4. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Can't believe? Would you be saying this if he hadn't just scored a screamer of a free kick? Yes he's a great asset but he's 7.5m! I'd be more inclined to go for Distin or Jagielka and save the money for those good fixtures.

      The stats are great for Baines, no-one doubts that. He plays practically left winger most games. But has that seen consistent enough returns for his price tag? No. And has his team kept enough clean sheets to justify it? No.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        The lack of clean sheets is a plus point. They will improve. Everton historically improve as the season goes. The fixtures are just so good short term.

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          That is a nonsensical argument. The lack of clean sheets isn't a 'plus point'. It's a sign that they have been practically incapable of keeping goals out. Is it a plus point for Fulham, for instance, that they haven't kept a CS in 7 games? No, it's a sign that they're unreliable and dodgy at the back.

          Everton do historically 'improve' over the second half of the season but that's when they have had their usual poor start which they were renowned for. This season it's been the opposite, if anything you would say they are due a slump in form as they've only lost 3 games all season! Really baffles me these silly theories people come up with to back up their choices.

          I don't deny Everton's fixtures are great and I would love to own Baines. But saying they are 'due' a few CS is a bit of a nonsense. No-one is due a run of clean sheets!

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          1. In Tommy We Trust
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Bookmark if you like but Everton will end up with 8ish CS for the season. Down from previous season (12 last) but 6 in 17 games for Baines with attacking returns I would like to own.

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    5. Brutus619
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I can't believe you're being influenced by his stats. He's had great stats the whole season from what I've heard.

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I'm not but oppositely, you can't ignore them either

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    6. dribbler
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      "Stats that blow your mind"...I know what you mean...

      4.1 points per game for £7.5m are stats that you just can't ignore huh? And Puncheon's been firing in goals left, right and center too so it's a win-win situation for you.

      Or did you see different stats?

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      1. In Tommy We Trust
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Average position,
        Chances created
        Touches in final third
        Chances
        etc

        4.1 points with only two clean sheets as a defender. I see upside from that stat

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  17. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Those WCing this week - how many DGWers you going for? I'm on 4 this week (3 CHE, 1 SOT) and will have 5 next week (3 ARS, 2 WHU)

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      4 and 4.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      6 & 6 ftw.

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        😯

        Wildcarding again in GW24? Struggling to see the value in having 3 SOT with their fixtures and injuries.

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Some will do 6&6. No WC for me although I have issues in defence. Got 2 FTs.

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    3. Hiphopopotamus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      6 and 5/6

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    4. Sting
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      5 and 5

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    5. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      This week: Mata/Luiz/Punch for sure. Maybe Ba or Azpilicueta, maybe Clyne, not a lot of 4 million defenders out there.

      Next week: Walcott/Demel/Szcz for sure, maybe Nolan.

      So maybe just 3 and 3.

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  18. Hiphopopotamus
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Azpil & Bale or Ivan & Lennon. Prefer the former but is the latter more nailed on?

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  19. Delusions of Mediocrity
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Hi All,

    First time poster (Be gentle)

    Wasnt planning on using my WC but injuries and 2DGWs have forced my hand. I was wondering if anyone had an opinion on which would be the better of these 2 possible WC teams please:

    A)
    Jussi/Turnbull Azipilicueta\Sagna\Davies\Gibbs\Demel Michu\Mata\Bale\Walcott\Fellaini RVP/Berbatov/Dzeko

    B)
    or same team expect Dzeko > Ba and Azipilicueta> Cuellar (if not fit a similar priced DEF)

    Cheers

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    1. The Quiff
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think A. Double Chelsea defence and Dzeko.

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    2. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Welcome, and A

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    3. Trilogist
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      B IMO. Not keen on this doubling up on CHE def and I'd rather had Ba then Dzeko at this moment.

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      1. The Quiff
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Ba could be rotated. Dzeko should be nailed on while Aguero is injured.

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  20. DAV087
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Azpilicueta and dzeko or Davies and Ba?

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    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Everton scores and Arsenal concedes.
      Az and Dz.

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  21. Mighty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I see a lot of people using their WC to set up both DGWs. Isn't it more logical to take 1-2 hits for the Chelsea DGW then WC for the Arsenal DGW?

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    1. dribbler
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      are you able to explain why you think it's better to take hits so you can delay your WC for one week?

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      1. Mighty
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I think WCing now to prep for two DGWs leaves you stuck with too many players from the same four teams, one of which have major rotation issues. By WCing after GW22, you only have to phase out Ars and WHU players.

        I already have Mata, Punch, Walcott and Jussi. I'm thinking of a hit to get Cashley and Torres in for Enrique and Suarez. Then WC, get rid of Cashley and Torres, get Suarez back, probably get Gibbs and another Arsenal player, and then really the only player I'd have to phase out is the additional Arsenal player (baring injuries, etc) (I need to tidy up my defence too).

        Maybe it only seems more logical in my head, I suppose you could work out the hits in both scenarios to know for sure...

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        1. dribbler
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          you make fair points but if you're not too aggressive with the number of DGW players you go for I think you can do your WC now if you want too...of course the world is split into people with and without Chelsea players and I don't have any...also I have 2 WC's so I'm going for it now

          in my opinion so long as you go easy on Saints players you should be OK afterwards...you can do a Bale or Hazard to Cazorla switch in the middle if you want and that helps a lot

          of course the DGW players may flop but you can say that about any players any week...but if you take hits and then they flop you'll be sick

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  22. FantasyFreak
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Quick one:
    Who to replace Tevez for a hit?
    a)Ba
    b)Lambert
    c)Keep Tevez and play Walcott.

    Obviously Ba is a better player, but I am worried about the Rafatation.

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    1. Hey_Arnold
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      aqguerro out - keep tevez in.

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  23. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Right I'm switching sites pressing the button then going to bed night all.

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  24. gdog2244
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    dzeko to rise???

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    1. Mile Plankton
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think not.

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      1. dribbler
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        no rises tonight for sure...he was on 99.1% at 1255

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  25. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    CRITICAL question:

    Will Luiz double rise before next GW? One rise looks certain

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  26. jonnybhoy
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Will rvp rise in price this week?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Probably.

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks!

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  27. Sting
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Will Tevez drop again before the next deadline ?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Very likely.

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  28. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    B) Mata + Azpil

    or

    B) Lampard + Ivanovic?

    Unfortuntely I can't have both Mata and Ivanovic

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    1. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Defos A

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    2. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      A

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    3. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Ahem.. I mean A) Mata + Azpil lol

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah soz for the double post no idea why? Haha

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  29. JayBomb
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Ba or Turnbull for Dgw ???

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  30. crazyasianac
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    please rate my wc team

    begovic (cerny)
    zabaleta, r. martin, demel (shaw, wilkinson)
    bale, mata, michu, fellaini ( puncheon)
    rvp, suarez, ba

    dont need another keeper coz im playing bego wholeseason. also, who to sub out for puncheon? i want him on field forthe dgw, but i dont know who to bench. leaning towards fellaini.

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    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Fellaini will bag a brace lad.

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