Season Review

The Promoted – End of Season Report – Crystal Palace

With reports on both Cardiff City and and Hull City already written up last week, our final article on the promoted sides features Crystal Palace. Having finished fifth in the Championship, 15 points behind Malky Mackay’s table-toppers, Ian Holloway’s side clinched promotion thanks to a dramatic Play-Off final win over Watford on Monday afternoon.

Back in the Premier League after an eight-year absence, Palace also got the better of Brighton over two-legs in the Play-Off semi-finals. Although Holloway’s side failed to concede in all three of their knockout matches, they somewhat lacked in defensive resilience over the full domestic campaign…

The Statistics

PWDLFAGDPCS
Total461915127362+117211
Home2313825231+21476
Away2367102131-10255

CS = Cleansheets

Palace finished the season as second top scoring side in the Championship, though their performances at home and on the road were significantly contrasting. Holloway’s side racked up 52 goals at Selhurst Park – more than any home side in the league – and scored two or more goals in 18 of the 23 fixtures in front of their own supporters. Indeed, Palace demonstrated a real eye for goal at home, notching at least three times on nine occasions but they left themselves open to the opposition attack and registered a mere six clean sheets at Selhurst Park. Furthermore, they shipped 31 goals in front of their own fans, more than double Cardiff’s 15, for example.

On the road, Holloway’s side mustered just 21 goals over the season – the third lowest away attack in the Championship. Palace scored more than a single goal in only six of their 23 matches away from Selhurst Park and with just four goals in their final 10 road trips, Fantasy managers will be confident of backing home sides when Holloway’s troops come calling. The London club conceded two or more goals on nine occasions but with just five clean sheets on their travels, their defensive displays in the league were somewhat at odds with their Play-Off performances.

The Manager

Palace are Holloway’s sixth club as manager, though it was only really at former club Blackpool that he achieved a relative degree of success. Guiding the Tangerines to Premier League promotion after a Play-Off Final win over Cardiff back in May 2010, his attacking brand of football afforded Fantasy managers a cut-price phenomenon in Charlie Adam before Blackpool dropped through the relegation trap door a year later. Holloway almost made an immediate return, though, steering the club to the 2012 Play-Off Final before tasting defeat at the hands of Sam Allardyce’s West Ham.

After three years at the Bloomfield Road club, the Bristol-born manager quit for family reasons and took up the Selhurst Park reins in November last year, after Dougie Freedman left to take charge of Bolton. Holloway has only had one transfer window to make any sort of alterations to the squad personnel, then, though his loan acquisition of Kevin Phillips proved a canny piece of business, with the forward netting seven times – including the Wembley winner – from just 16 appearances.

Tactically, it’s possible that his brief spell in the top-flight with Blackpool could see Holloway rein in the offensive football that all too often saw his previous club caught on the break – Palace’s lack of pace at the back could also dictate his approach. Certainly, a compact 4-2-3-1 formation, with high pressing from the most advanced quartet, proved fundamental to Palace’s success over the Play-Offs, though Holloway has also switched to a front two late on in games when his side needed an extra offensive threat.

The Promoted Squad

Listed below are the players who featured in at least half Palace’s 46 league games, with the Play-Off statistics also included:

Julian Speroni (49 apps) nailed-on between the sticks, the big Argentine will certainly guarantee game time. Bearing in mind that Cardiff’s David Marshall registered 18 clean sheets, however, Speroni could struggle for our Fantasy attention, given Palace’s comparative inability to keep out opponents.

Joel Ward (28 apps, 1 assist) signed from Portsmouth last summer, he started the season as first-choice right-back before being sidelined for months with a torn groin muscle. Versatile enough to play in midfield, he regained his regular role towards the end of the season once fully-fit.

Jonathan Parr (38 apps, 4 assists) the left-back’s campaign came to a premature end after he sustained damaged ankle ligaments against Ipswich in April. Parr is uncertain whether he’ll be fit to start pre-season training in tandem with his team mates but is optimistic of being fit for the beginning of the 2013/14 campaign.

Damien Delaney (43 apps, 3 goals, 2 assists) arrived at Selhurst Park from Ipswich last summer and was immediately installed as a key figure at the heart of the Palace back-four. Given his side’s poor defensive displays, he looks set to be a busy man next term, though his attacking contribution may catch the eye for those looking for a cut-price option at the back.

Peter Ramage (40 apps, 4 goals, 1 assist) the former Newcastle man has signed up for another couple of years over the past week and is clearly part of Holloway’s plans. Having partnered Delaney for the vast majority of the season, however, he lost his starting role to Danny Gabbidon for the run in – although the latter made just 13 appearances over the course of the campaign, Holloway seemed to rely on him when it mattered most.

Dean Moxey (33 apps, 4 assists) versatile enough to play at both centre-half and left-back, he may well have to rely on injuries to others to supplement his game time. Reports hint at a possible exit, with Moxey likely to be no more than a bench-warmer in the season ahead, particularly if Parr gains fitness for the start of the campaign.

Yannick Bolasie (45 apps, 3 goals, 8 assists) moved to the club from Bristol City last August, the DR Congo international starred on the left wing in all but four of Palace’s 49 fixtures. While Zaha hogged the headlines, Bolasie mirrored the new United man’s eight assists over the 46 league games.

Kagisho Dikgacoi (42 apps, 4 goals, 2 assists) forced off with a calf injury early on in the Play-Off Final, the former Fulham man chipped in with a decent attacking contribution from deep. Likely to be handed a sitting role in the double-pivot if Holloway utilises a 4-2-3-1, his contribution could be minimal next time around.

Mile Jedinak (44 apps, 3 goals, 3 assists) a tireless central midfielder, he’s likely to be afforded plenty starts but, similar to Dikgacoi, may struggle to find himself in advanced areas as Holloway looks to tighten up defensively.

Owen Garvan (30 apps, 4 goals, 6 assists) another player who has been handed a new contract since the club’s promotion. Garvan was fielded as the most advanced of the central midfield trio and may prove an unlikely off the radar prospect if he nails down the role in “the hole” next season. His game time was limited due to a knee injury but he was reinstalled to the first XI when fit.

Andre Moritz (29 apps, 5 goals, 4 assists) a Brazilian attacking midfielder, he arrived on a free transfer last summer. Chipped in with a respectable tally but was mainly relying on sub appearances by the time the season came to a close and now looks to be behind Garvan in the pecking order.

Wilfried Zaha (46 apps, 8 goals, 9 assists) loaned back to the club after signing for United in January, his departure leaves Holloway with plenty to ponder. As his Wembley display highlighted, Zaha was the jewel in Palace’s side and it’s little wonder Holloway is already pondering a loan move for his services.

Jonathan Williams (32 apps, 1 assist) a highly-rated product of the club’s youth academy, he was preferred to Bolasie on the left in the Play-Offs. Could be handed a regular role as a result of Zaha’s departure, though much depends on Holloway’s summer shopping spree.

Glenn Murray (43 apps, 30 goals, 7 assists) joined in the summer of 2011 on a free transfer from Brighton and scored just seven goals in his first season at Selhurst Park. Last term, though, he ran riot and, with spot-kicks also in his locker, played a part in more than 50% of his side’s goals. Murray was the only player from any of the promoted sides to register double figures but could face up to nine months on the sidelines with a knee injury.

Aaron Wilbraham (24 apps, 2 assists) in for the injured Murray for the Play-Off Final, his poor finishing almost proved costly. Having failed to score since last August, it’s a fair assumption he’ll be a bit-part player at best.

Potential Targets

With Zaha at United, Phillips back at Blackpool and Murray stuck in the treatment room, Holloway looks to have a busy summer of wheeling and dealing on the cards. Immediately after the Watford win, the Palace boss was typically frank in offering his assessment of the situation:

“Everybody wrote us off, everybody. In a two-horse race there was one horse. We had no chance at Brighton away. We had enough match winners in our team that would cause a few problems. I’ve got to make sure we’ve got that next year. It all starts now for me because the minute we kick off next we’re on a hiding to nothing, so we’ve got to make sure we can compete and I want to stay there.”

The London club are likely to be heavily involved in the transfer market right up until the end of August, then, with Holloway already hinting he’ll mull up a loan move for Zaha should David Moyes give him any encouragement. Palace co-chairman Steve Parrish has admitted the club are interested in in Real Madrid forward Javier Acuna, who notched 16 goals in 34 games on loan at Spanish Second Division side Girona and is out of contract next month. Intriguingly, Darren Bent’s name has also been mentioned after the arrival of Christian Benteke has knocked him out the Villa first-team. While Holloway is keen to snap up Phillips on a permanent deal, he’s likely to be handed the “Adam Le Fondre” role at best, climbing off the bench late on in games when his side require a goal.

In midfield, a potential reunion with Charlie Adam has been mentioned – his lack of mobility and industry may allow Holloway to sit him in front of the back-four and play passes from a deep-lying playmaker position as Palace look to hit on the break. Tottenham’s forgotten man David Bentley and team mate Jake Livermore are also linked. Certainly, Andre Villas-Boas allowed many of his fringe players to leave the Lane on loan last time out and Holloway would offer Livermore the chance of regular game time, should the Spurs boss decide against a permanent deal.

Out wide, Holloway’s previous working relationship with Tom Ince at Blackpool may come in handy, while he could offer Peter Odemwingie a way out of West Brom. Holloway was interested back in January but the Nigerian didn’t want to drop down a division –the Palace boss is now in a stronger bargaining position as he looks to fill the flanks with top-flight experience.

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  1. Optimus.
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    11 years, 18 days ago

    i dont watch bgt but i glanced at the tv when that shadow act were on..pretty good i have to say

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    1. Optimus.
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      oh dear top of the page everyone will think im a closet bgt fan now 😕 🙂

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      1. Brutus619
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        😀

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    2. b3- bish bash bosh
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      Same they were top quality

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  2. Gaz Downright
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    sup?

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    1. Jafooli
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      Optimus, above you.

      He's a big BGT fan, I hear....

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  3. Jafooli
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    Wow Optimus is a massive BGT fan. Would never have guessed that 😉

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    1. Optimus.
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      😀 haha

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    2. Eboue
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      😆

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    3. Optimus.
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      11 years, 18 days ago

      the annoying thing is we will probably be on this page still in the morning 🙂

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      1. 4vets
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        Just keep posting...

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        1. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          ill be posting enough shite from here on in...its a saturday night..brace yourself

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        2. Count of Monte Hristo
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          ^ This

          Just tell us another 26 interesting facts about yourself and we will be on page 8 in no time.

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      2. Jafooli
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        😛

        if not, I'm posting a link at the top of the next page.... 😀

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      3. Elniñorules
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        Optimus...you should atleast be a "Mascout" for Liverpool buddy... 😉

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  4. Eboue
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    ENR around? What's your mail? Got a proposition!

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    1. Count of Monte Hristo
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      I'm intrigued.

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    2. Elniñorules
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      • 12 Years
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      If you leave your email in the sign up, I'll contact you 😉

      http://tinyurl.com/qbujv29

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  5. Lawrø
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    11 years, 18 days ago

    4Vets, who else is in Team Liverpool?

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    1. 4vets
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      11 years, 18 days ago

      Email me on 4vets@c8.com 🙂

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      1. Lawrø
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        Okay 🙄

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        1. Count of Monte Hristo
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          He is making you work for it. There are no handouts at LFC.

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          1. Lawrø
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            😀

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        2. 4vets
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          Oh... bloody hell!

          4vets (Owner)
          Shipstontrev (Manager)
          Young & Arroagnt
          EDISON
          FC Borcelona
          Boom Boom
          LFC are da bomb
          Archie

          Vote for Chief Scout should take place tomorrow night.

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          1. 4vets
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            There are 5 of the winning Team Pakistan in the squad 🙂

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            1. Elniñorules
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              • 12 Years
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              Law of averages et al 😉

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 18 days ago

                We already have a strong team spirit and hope to add to that with fresh new talent.

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                1. Lawrø
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                  Recieved the Email yet?

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                  1. 4vets
                    • 13 Years
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                    Replied!

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                2. Liverpool FC
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 18 days ago

                  yes cardiff might be favourites but we have the spirit that can help us win !

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      2. Elniñorules
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        😀

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  6. Jafooli
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    Hope there's a couple new rules for next season. Don't really care what, just something to shake it up a bit.....

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    1. Optimus.
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      11 years, 18 days ago

      we pick a squad of 15 so every gw id like to see us given half points for your bench players..they did this in afcon ff and i liked it..it would mean picking no shane fergusons or non playing 2nd keepers

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      1. Optimus.
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        to go towards your gw score

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      2. Jafooli
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        Yeah, I like that idea a lot........

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  7. Jafooli
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    What's the highest level of football you've played?

    I played for a Uni Sunday league team called Poo Shooters......we were tripe....

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    1. Optimus.
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      Count can top that

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      1. Jafooli
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        Yeah, I think he played Scot Div One......

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        1. Holy See
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          Step below Uni Sunday league surely shirley.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            West Ham need YOU! 😉

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            1. Holy See
              • 14 Years
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              Anyone needing me for anything has taken some serious wrong turns!

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              1. Lawrø
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                😆

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          2. Jafooli
            • 12 Years
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            Mine was a Scottish uni league, so probably not.......then again 😛

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        2. Optimus.
          • 13 Years
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          is this him?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Malcolm

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
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            Na he is big ugly CB 😉

            I play left midfield.

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            1. Optimus.
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              ah ok...your footballing cv musnt look too bad

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
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      For a couple of years I played as the goalkeeper for a team in the Scottish Amateur First Division while I was at Uni in Aberdeen...

      Some good Amateur Scottish Cup runs were the highlight, travelling all over the country for games...

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    3. A.T
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      I played inter league when I was 16. It was a bit pointless cause I'd play Sunday morning firmly normal team then Sunday lunchtime interleafye bu which time everyone's was pretty knackered.

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    4. Ginkapo FPL
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      Stand in for every 5 aside team going.

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    5. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
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      My mate who is a member and lurker was the youngest player to play for Accrington Stanley.. 🙂

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      1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 14 Years
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        Should have drunk his milk...

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        1. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
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          Exactly....

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      2. Liverpool FC
        • 11 Years
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        who are they? 😉

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    6. Zep
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Any FMLS players in the house...?

      Who are you captaining?

      I'm thinking Morales or maybe Magee...

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      1. Zep
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        Huh, ignore this...

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  8. Parm
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    Any BGT fans in the house? 😉

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      ive glanced at it once so i wouldnt say im a fan..mf gf is though 😉

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
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        *my

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  9. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
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    Any BGT experts around? Who do you think will win?

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    1. Jafooli
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      😛

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    2. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      bish bash bosh is your man

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      1. b3- bish bash bosh
        • 12 Years
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        I actually only watched that one act tonight but rumer has it that you haven't missed a minute of it all week so you are in a much better position to say who the winner is going to be 😉

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        1. Optimus.
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          😀

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  10. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
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    Has the Secret Footballer ever been revealed?

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
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      Dave Kitson apparently

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      1. Jafooli
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        Yeah that's what I heard, but been confirmed yet?

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        1. ★FC Borecelona★
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          I'm not sure

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  11. A.T
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    Quiz question

    Which recent premiership manager was known by his players as The Imposter?

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    1. Optimus.
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      benitez?

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      1. A.T
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        Abrams grant whilst at west ham

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  12. r0nh
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    11 years, 18 days ago

    Sitting in, saving for my holiday in Spain 🙁

    Going in July 3rd 🙂

    Anyhow, I googled, does alcohol damage your brain & I found this answer:

    Yes.

    If you drink alcohol once or twice a day when ur a teen, it can make your intelligence go down slowly, and damage ur brain over time.

    But if you get drunk every week, there is going to be quite alot of money spent on funerals.

    If u take tastes every once in a while, like i do(I'm 11) u are going to be fine!

    But if you combine alcohol and smoking together, that will make you not very smart and give you bad breath, and lung problems.
    4 years ago

    😆

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      😆 Spanish chicks are hawwwwt...you'll see

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        I hope so!!

        I hope they like beautiful Irish men with firm butt cheeks!!

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
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          On another note Ron, ever considered joining Arsenal Football Club? The owner is looking for talented folk like yourself 🙂

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          1. r0nh
            • 12 Years
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            This is like them PPI adverts 😆

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
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              Do it mate! For the gunners...if you're interested, leave your details here - http://tinyurl.com/qbujv29

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    2. 4vets
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      I should have died 30 years ago.

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    3. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
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      ha well at least i gave up my 13 year smoking habit 6 months ago 😐

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  13. 4vets
    • 13 Years
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    He's coming home
    He's coming home
    He's coming (ahem)
    Lawro's coming home!!!

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  14. Just A Hat
    • 15 Years
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    I'm still well confused about this transfer competition - I don't think I'll bother learning the rules and just recommend good players to my manager

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    1. 4vets
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      That's a very strange hat.

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      1. Just A Hat
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        Donkey Kong ate the hat 🙁

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    2. Liverpool FC
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      i think that's wat everyone is doing tbh. 🙂

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  15. brianutd-why always we? 20
    • 12 Years
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    Doosra r u in da house still?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      this is all you have to do to summon doosra 😀

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_8K5rUjuVQ

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      1. brianutd-why always we? 20
        • 12 Years
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        Bottle os Soave on ice too...

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  16. MJ6987
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    11 years, 18 days ago

    Trying to get me head round this transfer game. What is expected to be a good Euros per token value?

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    1. Zep
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      "Champions League Winner" has a nice ring to it... 🙁

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      1. MJ6987
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        Sorry!

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      5m per token would be good.

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    3. Tommytour
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      I predict most of the leading teams will cost around £300 million, so £3m per token. Euros obviously add a bit more.

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  17. Zep
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    Any FMLS players in the house…?

    Who are you captaining?

    I’m thinking Morales or maybe Magee…

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    1. Thomass
      • 12 Years
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      Yup I'm playing it

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    2. Declan-
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      I had it on Magee but changed it to higuain in the last few minutes

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        any reason why?

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  18. The92nd
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    RMT, probably need the help

    BUTLAND ØSTBØ

    VAN AANHOLT - MONTOYA - STRANDBERG - SMITH - DONATI

    ISCO - HENDERSON - HOLTBY - SINGH - BITON

    RODRIGO - SAPONARA - YAKOVLEV

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    1. Liverpool FC
      • 11 Years
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      de gea ?

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      1. The92nd
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        possibly, would have to downgrade somewhere though, on exactly 100 now

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    2. Tommytour
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      Both keepers play in same group
      Van Aanholt not expected to start
      Clyne could start over Smith
      Rodrigo only striker likely to start

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      1. The92nd
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        fair enough about van aanholt,
        aware of clyne smith risk,
        got the impression the other 2 "strikers" would start just not up front, fair enough probably a bit more research requires,
        thanks for the reply, you too LFC

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      2. The92nd
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        oh and not bothered about the keepers being in the same group

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 15 Years
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          Every point and player counts. Replacing a failing keeper with someone is strategically the smart play.

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  19. MJ6987
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    Also, in the rules it says "Before every round of bidding, each club can identify upto 5 transfer targets and submit to UEFA".

    Do you have to identify targets to UEFA or can you just keep them secret and bid for players that have not been identified to them?

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    1. 4vets
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      I think it all has to be open which is a little silly.... I can name 5 useless feckers and then bid for the gems your scouts have found. That said, we're all expected to get into the spirit of thing, which I do agree with.

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      1. Tommytour
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        I think the top 50 highest priced players should be automatically put in to the hat and we can bid on secret players outside of that if we decide to. It could end up nobody can mid for Messi because he was too obvious to scout. Or everyone will have Messi Ronaldo Cavani Falcao and Neymar on their striker list so 20 teams are bidding from a short list of 5 players.

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        1. Liverpool FC
          • 11 Years
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          ye but that is the fun part it'l be a bidding war

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          1. Tommytour
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            Suppose it could be comical but it could end up we need a lot more rounds

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        2. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          If you allowed secret players outside of the list there would be an endless amount of 1 token bids for players and there would be no competitive angle to the game only a bunch of teams loading up on players for 2 and a bit months until the highest value wins.

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          1. Tommytour
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            Well then the top 25 priced players available should be on the list plus those scouted, otherwise we are all likely to be scouting the same players with limited people to bid on.

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            1. Count of Monte Hristo
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 18 days ago

              There will be the obvious ones at the top of the list for each position but that still leaves another 3 places on the transfer targets that could throw up alot of player across 20 teams.

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              1. Tommytour
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 18 days ago

                So what players don't we need to scout?

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                1. Count of Monte Hristo
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 18 days ago

                  Players that have a low transfer value, players with a transfer value likely to depreciate and players with a low transfer value that is unlikely to increase significantly.

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                  1. Tommytour
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 18 days ago

                    I meant what players will automatically be on the list eg Messi Ronaldo

                    I think you have this part wrong cos I'm sure the only players on the list will be those scouted

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                  2. Count of Monte Hristo
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 18 days ago

                    Yeah only scouted players added to the transfer targets form and submitted to the Council will be on the list. Did I say something that made you think otherwise?

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                  3. Tommytour
                    • 13 Years
                    11 years, 18 days ago

                    "There will be the obvious ones at the top of the list for each one"

                    They could be so obvious no one puts them down

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                  4. Count of Monte Hristo
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 18 days ago

                    There is that risk too but over 20 teams I think it's doubtful that the highest value players won't be added as targets.

                    And there isn't only 1 week for bidding in each position. It's comes full circle and we will be back bidding for GK's in week 5 so if there was an obvious player missing they would be selected in the next round of bidding further down the line.

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        3. MJ6987
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          I agree with this suggestion.

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      2. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Yeah if you are going to mess about and submit a bunch of dodgy transfer targets you are just trolling and shouldn't really bother playing the game. It would make the whole recruitment thing a big waste of time.

        All targets are submitted to UEFA and they compile a list of all 20 teams transfer targets for all of us to see so there will be no signings completely off the radar as all teams will be able for any of the targets.

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      3. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Yeah, this does seem a bit silly, no point scouting good players, just let everyone else take the strain, and research them once the lists are released.

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        1. MJ6987
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          I can name a few great targets that no one will have heard of, but as soon as I identify them my advantage is over.

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            Not really. Teams that invest time into their scouting could still favour their players over anyone else's. And even if they do like the look of your player that doesn't mean they will get him. It's closed bidding so you don't know who is bidding or for how much. They might not value your player that much and not bid much on him.

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            1. Declan-
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 18 days ago

              Exactly. You're explaining this better than the organisers 🙂

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            2. Ginkapo FPL
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 18 days ago

              Precisely, this is why teams need a strategy personal to them

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          2. Tommytour
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            We may just laugh and ignore them though 😉

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    2. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      The owner sends in 5 targets each week. Then the targets are put on a shopping list for everyone to bid on. There could be 100 per round to bid on if there was no overlap. But there will be 🙂

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        so in other words there will be 10 players instead of 100? 😀

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        1. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          Quite possibly for the forwards but for the defenders and goalkeepers I think it will be a bit different. But 10?? probably not. I'd say 20 at least possibly more

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  20. crystalpalaceRus
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    What season was the FPL introduced?

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    1. Thomass
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      06/07

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Surely you didnt play then you'd of been 7 lol

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      2. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Na I started playing it in 2005/06 and I think it started a few years before that.

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  21. happy-boys
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    I left my email in the sign up,if someone wants me in team.

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  22. Thomass
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    Anyone want to join the Cardiff Revolution!
    Email me or BonZ at Lee.jones.b1@googlemail.com or kaif_26_2012@hotmail.co.uk
    Thanks! 😀

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    1. Liverpool FC
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      cardiff needs some waterboys

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      1. Thomass
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        😆

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  23. ★FC Borecelona★
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    @Uefa Council

    Is it possible to do a trial bidding round to see how it's all going to work? I'm still a bit confused with the system

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      I can explain it if you like? What is confusing you?

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      1. ★FC Borecelona★
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Just the 'target' thing

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        1. Declan-
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          Of course. Each team submits five players each week that they may be interested in getting. Then they are put on a "shopping list" with the targets of the other teams and any player on that list can be bid on. Highest bid then for each player wins. I hope that helps 🙂

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          1. ★FC Borecelona★
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            Cheers!

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Does anyone have a spare retina they are not using??

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    2. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      You have got some spreadsheet skills right there Thommo.

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    3. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      One of the best spreadsheets I've seen, Thomass

      Well done!

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      1. Thomass
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Thx!

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    4. Eboue
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Am I not in any more?

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      1. Thomass
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Just pop in an Email of what team you want to be!

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  24. MJ6987
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    Following on from the above. Another suggestion would be that when you come to bid for your three players in the round, at least two of the three have to be from the five players you identified, the third bid is "free choice".

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    1. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Have you signed for anyone yet?

      Come join City we already have Messi in the bag 😉

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        50 to buy 14 players?

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        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          He's come on a free as owner

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      2. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Yeah, I am signed up to HVT's Aston Villa outfit. It's a small but powerful unit.

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      So everyone gets their players for 1 token? Spoil the fun why dont you

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        The game has been tested before release, just trust the guys who made it

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      2. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Only if you bid one token and nobody bids more.

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        1. Count of Monte Hristo
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          Noone will be bidding on those players in that case as they will be bidding on the players from their list while you are bidding on the ones from your list.

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      He lived in Ireland 😎 🙂

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        he must have some great photos 🙂

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  25. crystalpalaceRus
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    I just dont think i will have what it takes to captain RVP/Mata/Bale/Aguero against my little team 🙁

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    1. crystalpalaceRus
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      and walcott and many others lol

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      I will enjoy captaining RVP/Mata/Bale/Aguero against your little team 😎 😉

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      1. crystalpalaceRus
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Speroni will concur

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      2. Lawrø
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        😆

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    3. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      You better hope there are other good options those weeks so 🙂

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  26. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    Captain Magee, Collin, McInerney or Donovan? Thinking Magee atm

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    1. Declan-
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Collin??? 😯 He can't score every week 🙂 I think i'm going for Higuain

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        Only said Collin because he's usually a bonus point machine 🙂

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      2. Konig Luther
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        i will go with magee

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Wouldn't captain Collin or Donovan, Kansas and LA are missing a huge amount of players this week, and will likely struggle...

      Magee is a good choice, scored on his debut in the cup in midweek...

      Jack Mac will likely get a goal, so should be a safe pick too...

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      1. Give The Todd Some Love
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        I'll go for Magee, thanks mate

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      2. Declan-
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        I just changed back to Magee 🙂 What rank are you? 🙂

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          570th...

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          1. Declan-
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            Nice. I'm lingering about 8,000 after benching 40 points in week 8 because I did't know there was a dgw and I only joined in gw2....

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            1. Zep
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 18 days ago

              It's actually quite addictive, I'm getting right into it...

              Don't really watch any games though, but do read up about it quite a bit...

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  27. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    Gink

    Earlier you said “You get to bid on 3 players each bidding day. You cannot change these bids.”

    Will this be a random 3 from the shopping list?

    Also there is only a week of bidding in each position. What if there are 70 GK's on the shopping list. How do you fit them into 7 days with only 3 per day?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      Each bidding day is the last day of that round. Only 3 bids per round is my understanding.

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      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        So you couldn't bid for more than 3 of the 75 GK's in the list?

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        1. Tommytour
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          No

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        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          Nope, You will select 3 of your choice from the list of "75" GK's. In reality I doubt the keeper list will be that big.

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          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            You can bid for less than 3 obviously, nobody is forcing you to spend money

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            1. Tommytour
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 18 days ago

              What happens if you win all 3?

              You can choose who you want?

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              1. Ginkapo FPL
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 18 days ago

                You can release the extra on a free, although penalties may apply to this. Alternatively another team might want to buy them off you for a mixed offer of tokens and/or cash.

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              2. Count of Monte Hristo
                • 11 Years
                11 years, 18 days ago

                No

                “If the club exceeds its tokens budget or exceeds its player limit for a position, the most expensive successful bid will be considered void and goes to the club with the next highest bid.”

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                1. Ginkapo FPL
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 18 days ago

                  My bad, when did a player limit appear. Fair go with COMH

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    2. Tommytour
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      This is confusing

      Isnt it just a week to finalise 3 bids for the keepers you want off those listed?

      You can change as much as you want but those locked in at 11.59pm are those that count?

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        yeah

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      2. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 18 days ago

        That's my point. Finalising 3 bids as you put it means you are bidding for no more than 3 players in the bidding week.

        Change what as much as you like?

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 18 days ago

          *12 players in a week. 3 per position.

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 18 days ago

            The timeline states it's only 1 position per week?

            14th June > 21st June is for goalkeepers only

            http://uefacouncil.wordpress.com/timeline/

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  28. Thomass
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 18 days ago

    @TorresMagic do you like the spreadsheet? 😀

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 18 days ago

      For a rookie it's ok.

      Doesn't compare to my masterpieces.

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