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Dugout Discussion December 9

The Dugout Discussion – Monday

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Nine down, one to go as Swansea welcome Hull to the Liberty and hand us some Monday night football to sink our teeth into. Michael Laudrup’s side have offered Fantasy managers a strong source of points at both ends of the pitch in front of their own fans – three of the last four home games have produced a clean sheet and three goals or more for the Welsh outfit:

Jonjo Shelvey’s 14-point haul in the previous Gameweek saw the former Liverpool man earn himself over 161,000 new owners prior to the weekend deadline, though with Curtis Davies back on board after serving a one-match suspension, the Tigers will be hoping to turn in a resilient display.

The big news is that Michu is fit and available to lead the line for the hosts after recovering from ankle and knee problems. He replaces Alvaro Vazquez up top in one of three changes by Laudrup, as Gerhard Tremmel and Nathan Dyer come in for Michel Vorm and Alex Pozuelo. Robbie Brady drops out for the Tigers after a series of disappointing displays since returning from injury.

As always, our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open right through to the final whistle.

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  1. MJ6987
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Hope Hazard doesn't play too many minutes midweek.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      i hope oscar features for about 30

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  2. Phaze 1
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Best move going forward guys.

    1) Start Johnson

    2) Clyne -> Williamson

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  3. Sheldon420
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Any thoughts?

    Howard
    Terry Coleman RAT MOXEY
    Hazard Ramsey Ravel
    Suarez Aguero Rooney

    4.0 CABAYE CHICHO DELPH

    0 FTs, 0 ITB
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    Rat and Moxey will most likely not start because of injuries. Chico, Cabaye and Delph are all suspended.

    A) Rat -> Burner (who I'll rotate with Moxey until the WC) - play with 10 players -4PTS HIT
    B) Rat & Moxey -> Burner & Ward - play with 11 players -8PTS HIT
    C) Stick - play with 9 players NO HIT

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    1. Test Eagles
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Wow tough week! I'd be leaving it well alone and hope for a miracle but at least you can rebuild properly as opposed to plugging gaps but building more problems! Super unlucky

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  4. The Wizard of Ozil
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    0.1 short of G Johnson -> Coleman 🙁

    A) GJ -> Distin
    B) GJ & Dawson -> Coleman & Distin (-4)
    C) Migs & Dawson -> Howard & Distin (-4)

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      just A

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Are you addicted to making transfers? What's the urgency?

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    3. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      A

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    4. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Migs & GJ to Howard & Distin

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    5. HabitualLineSteppers
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Harper (4.0) -> Kelvin Davis (3.9)

      frees up 0.1

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  5. Uncle Gamst
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    4 point hit to do Navas and Giroud for

    a) Rooney (C) and Fer or

    b) Lukaku and 10.2 Mid ( .1 short of Ozil) or cheaper and money to improve elsewhere

    or just:

    c) Mig to Howard

    Full Squad:

    Mignolet

    Williams, Ridgewell, Coleman

    Hazard, Shelvey, Barkley, Ramsey,

    Suárez, Giroud, Agüero

    Subs: Harper, Navas, Chester, Flanagan

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    1. Fine, keep changing my name…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Giroud to Lukaku.

      Wait on other transfer, at least until after Silva has dropped tonight.

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  6. There's Always One!
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Who's the best replacement for brady for 5.2m? I have morrison

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Maybe Bannan, Redmond, or Barkley. All not great options. The last two have good fixtures.

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    2. jimski
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Redmond.

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  7. Richd
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Mata should be a nice punty differential pre-wild card.

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Just needs the minutes and a glimpse of form for me to rush him in to my squad

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    2. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I only about Mourinho and him starting Mata.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      seems to have lost his mojo even when he plays. lamaprd and schurrle (calf dependant) now look like front runners on the puntometer

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    4. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Don't think I would want a punty player @9.4

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      1. gedda
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        +1 valid point.

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  8. ccc
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Any help guys? Have 5.9 (own Ravel)
    Brady >

    A. Fer
    B. Shelvey
    C. Bannan

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      prob fer for fixtures

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    2. Mojo Rojo
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      A or C... Fer has good fixtures and decent form of late. But depends on what you would do with the extra funds if you went with Bannan instead.

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      1. ccc
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        funds would be sitting in bank for future moves.

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    3. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      cheers

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    4. *Unrial
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Redmond, cheaper just hasn't been as lucky as fer

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  9. Hammers Select
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Need to flog some dead wood.

    I have Brady, Barkley and Amal.

    I have 3.4 extra to play with, open to any suggestions to replace with or potentially keeping Barkley.

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Do it in the bathroom mate don't tell us about it

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      1. Hammers Select
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        haha! Any suggestions for players?

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Brady is priority to sell imo. Do an analysis of who you can afford

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        2. Test Eagles
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Brady > Hazard / Silva / Oscar / Yaya?

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    2. Goaldigger
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I would keep Barkley.

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  10. Mojo Rojo
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Would it be silly to double up on Arsenal defence when their fixture turn good from GW18? I've already got Szczesny and will look to do Terry > Koscielny in a few weeks.

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Why get rid of terry ?

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      1. Mojo Rojo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        We can't keep a clean sheet and Arsenal's fixtures are better as of GW18.

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        1. Evans
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Word to the wise

          I've had GJ and Flanagan for hull, Norwich and west ham

          Not one clean sheet .....

          Double up at your peril

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          1. Mojo Rojo
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers for the advice... Will reevaluate the situation in the coming weeks 🙂

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    2. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Nah, solid defensively, fixtures look good after the next two. You'll probably need 1 of Ramsey/Ozil.

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      1. Mojo Rojo
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Finally bit the bullet and got Ramsey last week... I think I broke him 🙁

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        1. DonTheSpecialOne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I'm still staying clear 🙂

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  11. GK
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Any reason to spend .4m more on Howard and Debuchy over Keul and Distin?

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    1. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No. Howard's yellows.

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    2. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      2nd option is good. Didn't debuchy limp off against united?

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      1. GK
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        He did but I think he's good for the weekend. Ok, cheers for the opinions chaps, the second lot it is.

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    3. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Debuchy maaaaybe more chance of points from assists... howard on 4 yellows. Nothing glaring to me really

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  12. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Here i was thinking Ashley Cole was injured, what is up with him, is he just out of favour?

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    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      he is injured imo. they rushed him back from a fractured rib to face man city and it's clearly back-fired. now they're playing it safe i think

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Ah right, i was thrown by the no flag in FPL. Didn't even realize Azpilicueta had played 5 games in a row.

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    2. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      basically i think he could play now at 80ish% but they're choosing to wait until he's 100% instead

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  13. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Should I get rid of Cabaye????

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No.

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    2. Richd
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No way..

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      surely you can bench him for one.

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      1. Syd.
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I've got Cabaye, Delph who are suspended and Barkley who will most likely get rested

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    4. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No, one of the few midfielders I'm considering bringing in after he's served his suspension.

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    5. chrisjdgrady
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      nooooooooooo

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  14. Chu Young Ping Pong
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Jags or Coleman?

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Coleman

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    2. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I went for Coleman

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        then I'll go for Coleman xo

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      coleman. baps are for bakers

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    4. Richd
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Coleman.

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  15. DonTheSpecialOne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Shelvey 4 pts, not happy, not disappointed. Better than Brady ( who I sold) and if I didn't, Collins -1 coming in for him.

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  16. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    http://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/anyka/anyka1002/anyka100200045/6431314-hanging-antique-teddy-bear-that-committed-suicide.jpg

    Your mean words hurt me 🙁

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      flagged for cruel and unusual punishment to what looks like a minor bear

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    2. Woy of the Wovers
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No. Just Silver bullets and holy water you evil teddy.

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  17. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone finding this game really dull at the minute?

    X

    Terry Coleman X

    Hazard Ozil Ramsey X

    Aguero Suarez(C) Lukaku

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It will be worse next month; Jan WC

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    2. MJ6987
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Gazza / Davis
      Burner / Ward on rotate
      Gerrard (>Silva soon)

      Nope!

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Have the Golden Eight above

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        And how many of those players are you going to give the armband to?

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        1. MJ6987
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          None!

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    3. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I only have 3 of those... I must be doing something wrong.

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Let's see? Genuinely curious to see if you can remain competitive without that spine.

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        1. Venom Snake
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          There is no spine. Suarez is the only essential player in the game. Build around him whoever you like

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            That's blatantly not the case, though, is it?

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    4. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I have two of those eight players

      Guess I'm no longer in the dullard camp lol

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Good for you! I'm really struggling to find a few players to punt on (that's the most fun part of the game for me).

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    5. FF Dirtbag
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Gonna go Howard, gabbidon, silva
      Did I get it right?

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Er, the X's don't have names underneath them when I turn them over!

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        1. FF Dirtbag
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Dam
          Maybe put some
          Context
          To
          Your
          Posts

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          1. Twisted Saltergater
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Hmm. I was inferring that picking a successful fantasy team is pretty straight forward and frankly, dull, right now.

            If you don't agree with any of the picks, I'd love to hear of any other suggestions based on form, fixtures, or plain ol' gut feeling.

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    6. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Can't see Terry & Lukaku being Template players TS but get your point none the less.. however how come Evs & Shipstontrev keep managing amongst others to keep edging further ahead each bloody week? 🙂

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Must come down to those cheaper differentials that you can rotate in based on fixtures. Think I'm going to get a settled 8 or 9, then try this approach. 🙂

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      2. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        It's a funny old game TS.. I had 2 free transfers this week with a list of injuries & suspensions to deal with, spent most of the week settled on a Clyne out for either Olsson or Ward to keep 2 ft's but come friday that felt that was too weak a move & changed to Ozil & Morrison out to fund Hazard & Shelvey in.
        Move cost me 10/11 pts and a free transfer.

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  18. MJ6987
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    This is perhaps the most interesting captain choice all season IMO

    Suarez....on form monster, best striker in PL this year, Spurs defence shaky of late
    Aguero....on form and at home where he is also a monster, 2nd best striker this year
    Lukaku.....on form and nice home fixture
    Hazard....on form and nice home fixture

    Sort that one out!

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Rooney

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      1. MJ6987
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Nah, not close

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        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Why not?

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        2. Evans
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Come on has to be considered MJ

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          1. lifes a pitch
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Hazard, Chelsea ain't got a better goal scorer

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Lukaku or Aguero.

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    3. Taribo West on a free
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Rooney (C)

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    4. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      In reverse order of how you have it listed

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      1. tm245
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Agree with this.

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    5. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Who are you leaning towards mate? It's between Suarez and Lukaku I think, Lukaku if I had to choose now.

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    6. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      aguero up against a team whove only shipped 11 goals, even given his home form makes me doubt this time
      suarez......spurs have been leaky of late, tho most were against city
      lukaku defo
      haz defo

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    7. *Unrial
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Flanagan (C)

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  19. Giovanni Giorgio
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Distin og Jagielka?
    5.1 vs 5.9
    61p vs 79p

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  20. Lucinda Williams
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Krul or de Gea?

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    1. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      DeGea??

      😆

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      1. Lucinda Williams
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Great fixtures coming up...

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        1. Evans
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          How many times have Mufc kept a clean sheet in the PL this season

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        2. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          They'll concede against Villa. Abgonlahor, Weimann, Benteke, counter attack.

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    2. ccc
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Krul. DDG 😆

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  21. Zeeco
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Would you play giroud or shelvey for GW16?
    This my team below

    Howard FUL (H)
    Distin FUL (H)
    Fonte NEW (A)

    Terry CRY (H)
    Shelvey NOR (A)
    Morrison SUN (H)

    Ramsey MCI (A)

    Özil MCI (A)

    Yaya Touré ARS (H)

    Agüero ARS (H)

    Suárez

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    1. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Giroud

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      1. Zeeco
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        but i have 2 Arsenal players playing already

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  22. FPL Notebook (John)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Defence was terrible this week. And it looked so good beforehand.

    Mignolet: West Ham (H) 2Pts
    Walker: Sunderland (A) 2Pts
    Terry: Stoke (A) 0Pts
    Evra: Newcastle (H) 2Pts
    McAuley Norwich (H) 1Pt

    7 points on total :O

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    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      My defence scored 15 and it costs just a fraction of yours 😉

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  23. gedda
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Gents, thoughts on:

    Giroud & Benteke -> RvP & Lukaku?

    Team linked, thanks!

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      RVP --- no, no ,

      Yes to lukaku

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  24. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2520654/Manchester-United-transfers-Bruno-Gomes-decides-join-Internacional.html

    What a helmet.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      not sure if i should click link.....

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  25. FPL Notebook (John)
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I would be more concerned about the defence. Maybe remove Benteke and Migs?

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    1. FPL Notebook (John)
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Sorry - Reply to Gedda

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  26. Performance Series
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    who's up for CL tommorow?? tough to pick teams now with all these changes

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  27. Syd.
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Hazard looks like my only realistic captain this week

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Don't have Suarez ?

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  28. Pedram
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Question for UCL fantasy players, will Ronaldo play tomorrow ?

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  29. drughi
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Gerrard >

    A) lampard
    B) yaya
    C) silva

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      C

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  30. ccc
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Goodbye Terry & Brady. Hello Jagielka & Fer. Terry I think had 1 CS of last 10 and needed to sell him to fund Brady > Fer and I am very happy getting Jagielka. (-4)

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