Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Monday

Nine down, one to go as Swansea welcome Hull to the Liberty and hand us some Monday night football to sink our teeth into. Michael Laudrup’s side have offered Fantasy managers a strong source of points at both ends of the pitch in front of their own fans – three of the last four home games have produced a clean sheet and three goals or more for the Welsh outfit:

Jonjo Shelvey’s 14-point haul in the previous Gameweek saw the former Liverpool man earn himself over 161,000 new owners prior to the weekend deadline, though with Curtis Davies back on board after serving a one-match suspension, the Tigers will be hoping to turn in a resilient display.

The big news is that Michu is fit and available to lead the line for the hosts after recovering from ankle and knee problems. He replaces Alvaro Vazquez up top in one of three changes by Laudrup, as Gerhard Tremmel and Nathan Dyer come in for Michel Vorm and Alex Pozuelo. Robbie Brady drops out for the Tigers after a series of disappointing displays since returning from injury.

As always, our Dugout Discussion chatroom remains open right through to the final whistle.

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  1. Herman Toothrot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Oscar now 8.8 and still dropping. Could be a bargain by the time he come back.

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    1. Make United Great Again
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Deffo

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    2. Midtable
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Almost a million between him an Eden now

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    3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      if hes even close to fit this weekend im puntin on him, better bet than silva i think

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      1. HabitualLineSteppers
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Agreed.
        Bit soon for Silva

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      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Will he be fit for PAL ? Thought he wasn't even injured that time he went off !

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  2. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    i assume that means shelvey keeps the handb...... i mean assist

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  3. Uncle John from Jamaica
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Don't get all the Silva loving. Great player don't get me wrong but not played since Nov 2 in the league. Unlikely to walk into the side as most players build up fitness gradually and even if he starts its Arsenal this week who look resolute at the back.

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      who else is there...

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        And this! 🙂

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      2. Uncle John from Jamaica
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Mata or Walcott both have more chance of starting. Mata has Palace at home. Lampard or even Miralles.

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        1. rm9
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Just because Walcott starts it doesn't mean that he won't be as bad as he was at the beginning of the season.

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      This!

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      people look further than one match and he has looked very good so far this season (when fit).

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    4. Round and Round
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      He will be in the side if fully fit. Fixture is tough but he's arguably the strongest premium mid option this season

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    5. Make United Great Again
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      +372387587325237975923

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  4. Captain Shirokov
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Got a Grade 8 piano exam on Wednesday.

    #pray4cs

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      good luck

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Pray for a clean sheet??

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        clean sheet music

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Oh, gotcha. Good luck! Keep those fingers safe 🙂

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    3. 7shadesofsmoke
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Good luck!

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Good luck! That is a very high level! Would love to be as gifted as that in playing the piano.

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    4. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Good luck hope it goes well! I got my result today, did a post grad diploma (17 years after doing my degree) and got a distinction, yay.

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        congrats! that's brilliant.

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        1. RoysCallerAnne
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          • 14 Years
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          Cheers TS 🙂

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    5. RÏɠBY
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      just do cage's 422 you'll be diamond 😉

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  5. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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    what is goiing on with autosubs? shouldn't they have happened by now

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  6. Lord Flashheart
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    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Was away tonight - why vorm out and will he play next week?

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Total FPL has a link saying he's out 4-5 weeks, operation. 🙁

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      1. Lord Flashheart
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Damn

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  7. 7shadesofsmoke
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Sat on 65 with Chester's 2 points coming off the bench. 11.5K

    Will I move forwards or backwards do you think?

    I think i'll drop about 500 places or so

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    1. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Back but not much. Think it was about 75 points for top 7K.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I think i was 2 points off the 10K mark but that will obviously change after tonight.

        Fingers crossed eh?!

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    2. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      why speculate

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        to accumulate

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      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        just anxious, i guess.

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    3. Tabone
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      i wouldnt know what iits like being ranked all the way up there! lol

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        neither do i - unchartered territory for me!

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  8. Tabone
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    okay to bench ramsey? any other issues?

    howard
    terry jagz chester
    hazard coutinho walcott morrison
    aguero suarez(c) lukaku(vc)

    ramsey williams dawson

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      err i wouldnt bench ramsey ...... 60% ownership is too frighghtening given his form

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      1. Tabone
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        what would you do then? man city at home is probably the hardest fixture there is... 27 goals with only 2 conceded so far.. i wont be expecting much.. only reason walcotts on is because i thik this is the type of game they will need someone so explosive on the counter!

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          not disagreein with you there, but it would worry me benchin a player of his form.... id bench morrison

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          1. Tabone
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            true... not ideal for me though to double up in one position v city away... most likely not going to get any points i think! thanks for your advice!

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            1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              indeed and i think you will be proved right. dont trust my advice, im 200k ..... its my opinion only, i say stick with yer gut man

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              1. Tabone
                • 10 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                Thanks mate

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    2. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I think I agree, but Ramsey will probably play more than Walcott so it is a punt.

      Also, who is RavMo up against?

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      1. Tabone
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        walcott over ramsey i think cos its a hard fixture.. and i think arsenal will need someone like him to counter man cities attacks! ravMos got sunderland and is at home!

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      2. rm9
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        SUN

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      3. Alaric
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Sunderland

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  9. King Nemanja
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Does anyone have any news on Clyne's injury?

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  10. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    A) Gerrard + Mert -> Ozil + 5.4m defender (-4)
    B) Gerrard -> Silva
    C) Gerrard -> Yaya

    not going to do it right now, will likely wait, just gauging

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      C

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      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        yeah that's what my gut is telling me to do..Yaya always shows up in big games

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        1. Make United Great Again
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          That's why you should go C 😀

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    2. Evil Greg
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      C) but wait and see about silva

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    3. HabitualLineSteppers
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      C

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  11. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Doing Flanagan -- Distin leaves me 4.7m for a mid when i get rid of Brady.
    Who to get? Will rotate with Ravel, cheers

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    1. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Bannan?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        this or oviedo for short term

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    2. Evil Greg
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Redmond or Bannan

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    3. Liastro ⭐️
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      JWP

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    4. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Bannan redmond

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  12. DA Minnion (Former great)
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Migs to howard done.feels right.

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    1. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Until he picks up his 5th yellow this weekend 😉

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      1. rm9
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Don't see them doing much time wasting in the next fixtures.

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      2. Gianluca Busio's Hair …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        i find it really hard to believe that howard is going to get another yellow, when he knows suspension is looming. that being said, he does have turrets, and i myself am wondering if i should have a backup keeper just in case!

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    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah I agree. Would be idiotic to get another yellow.just can't see it happening.don't have a back up keeper either.

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  13. Evil Greg
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/david-silva-back-manchester-city-6386654

    silva best replacement for gerrard perhaps, about to drop to 9.1m though, wait until Friday when Gerrard drops and data/statements from Bayern game 🙂

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Gw18 for me... But yes, silva is awesomeness.

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      1. Evil Greg
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Should comfortably outscore yaya

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      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
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        this^

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  14. Ed
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Who should I bring Jagielka in for?
    A) Glen Johnson
    B) Koscienly
    C) Rat

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      A/C.

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    2. Ed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Edging towards GJ, as it'll give me some more money than if I brought him in for say rat

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    3. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
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      A

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    4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Glen or Rat

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    5. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      A

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  15. Liastro ⭐️
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Chico -> Distin or Coleman

    Or

    Mignolet -> Howard

    Tonight on a FT?

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Mig transfer will be more beneficial overall.

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    2. rm9
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Howard

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    3. Alaric
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Mig > Howard

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    4. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Get Rat. You know you want to.
      I want you to get him too.

      Rat RAT.

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  16. AxeMinion
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Who do I captain?

    a) Coleman (FUL)
    b) Oscar (CPL)
    c) Aguero (ARS)

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      out of those, aguero

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      1. t4thomas
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Deffo.

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    2. jonnybhoy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Oscar

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    3. Alaric
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Aguero, if you have Lukaku he's also an option

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    4. AxeMinion
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks everyone!

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  17. Barry Woj
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    What was the average before the match kicked off today?

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      37

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      1. Barry Woj
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Ah ok cheers. It hasn't changed yet then. I like keeping track of it how the games influence it...

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        1. Smarty Pants
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          3.8 points for Swansea and Hull players, autosubs and vice-captains today, should be 40-41 after the update

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          1. Barry Woj
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Nice thanks! I guess you can do Swansea and Hull from the player percentages. But autosubs and vice captains?

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  18. BenDavies
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Out of this midfield, who should I ship out for Hazard? Finding it hard because all have attractive fixtures barring Ramsey but he's kind of fixture-proof:
    Lampard Paulinho Ramsey RavMo Barkley

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    1. Gentlemen Crier
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Lampard. Hazard is far more guaranteed in terms of minutes for the same fixtures.

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  19. jonnybhoy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    4 points tonight 150k overall, am I moving up tonight?

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    1. Smarty Pants
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I'd say so, people around you scored 2 points on average

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      1. jonnybhoy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Smarty, hoping you were on to answer this question! 🙂

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  20. Demel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Just made the transfer Johnson -> Distin. Sensible transfer?

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Yes.

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    2. WDT
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      always feels wrong shipping a player that just registered a goal/assist for me.

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      1. Demel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I understand that. I will probably buy him back in January.

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    3. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      yep

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  21. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Guys,

    How did Silva get to -183% ?! Isn't that unusually high a drop given he is almost fit ?!

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    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Flagged.

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  22. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Explosion imminent!!

    Suggestions?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      The Indian down the road from me

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        oooo i had a lovely curry tonight ........ feel a bit stuffed now 😳

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        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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          10 years, 6 months ago

          Madras ? 🙂

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          1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            no she went by boat..... wait that doesnt work

            nah some slow cooked lamb affair....... top notch

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      2. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Hope you mean the restaurant

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    2. In Tommy We Trust
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/266/

      Berba and Coutinho would be my picks for Xmas Presents 😉

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Hmm, maybe after the Everton and Spurs fixtures, Tommy!

        Thanks though 🙂

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  23. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I know no one cares. But Vorm injury news brings my total to 21 injuries and 5 suspensions in 15 GWs. You can battle away, but that's just too much bad luck for any man to handle.

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      🙁

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Does seem to be fighting a rear guard action for you this year RCA, unlucky. Still, there is more than half the season to go.
      Sort it with the Winter Wildcard, then onward and upward.

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      1. RoysCallerAnne
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Thanks Flynny, and yeh, winter WC works well for me usually 🙂

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    3. A.T
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Blimey that's ridiculous 🙁

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  24. Round and Round
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Play Ramsey over Coutinho. Similarly tough fixture, Ramsey the better option

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    1. t4thomas
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      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Ramsey does score in big games. Coutinho has less ownership.

      I would be on Cout I think.

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    2. Round and Round
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      rf to Hazza

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    3. Tabone
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      similarly tough? i doubt that... id pick coutinho... 27 goals with only 2 conceded at home for man city so far..

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      1. Round and Round
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Don't let your allegiances sway your decision. Pretty sure Arsenal will score

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    4. Demel
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I am wondering the same. Think I am going with Coutinho. Just wondering if both are better then double Cardiff defence. Hmmm.....

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      1. Round and Round
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Don't double. WBA are one of those unpredictable teams, always liable to crop up with a goal or 2 when least expected

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    5. Smarty Pants
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, definitely Rambo.

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  25. t4thomas
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Start Fonte or Johnson this week?

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  26. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    With Evra being a doubt and Silva being back, do you reckon Evra -> Distin is worth a 4 pointer this week given it generates enough cash for Nasri -> Ozil next week?

    Panty
    Terry, MOlsson, Evra
    Hazard, Mirallas, Nasri, Ramsey
    Aguero, Suarez, Lukaku

    Davis, Ravel, Clyne, Ward
    Bank 1.0m

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    1. Demel
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No. Not for a hit.

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      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Buzz Killington

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      2. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah I'm normally against hits, but Ozil is starting to look essential and I worry about Nasri's game time over the Xmas period with all the City midfielders being fit.

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        1. Demel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          I have Coutinho and Nasri. Not sure which to move out first. I will have a million for the transfer, It will either be Michu, Walcott, Oscar or Silva. Just none have overly shone at the moment.

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Distin is a bargain, regardless. Like it.

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    3. Alaric
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Is Evra a doubt?

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    4. Danny x-factor
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Yes.

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    5. A.T
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No

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  27. Danny x-factor
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Best replacement for Mignolet & Chico for 11.0?

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Krul + Coleman?

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      1. DonTheSpecialOne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        11.0 spot on

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        1. Danny x-factor
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Already got Coleman. Team as below link:

          http://i.imgur.com/tmNaWDg.jpg

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    2. Alaric
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Howard & someone

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    3. Tabone
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Howard/distin should do well

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    4. Jck-Jns
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Imo.... Howard. Newcastle or everton defender.

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    5. Danny x-factor
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Thanks all. My team as link here.. http://i.imgur.com/G54MXcJ.jpg

      I guess, I just have double Everton defence & bring in Krul.

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  28. Demel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    How was Michu tonight?

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Still has a really large face but at least we were spared the stupid goal celebration.

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    2. Kostja
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No service whatsoever, Swansea were really poor in general. So Michu was made totally invinsible

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  29. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Finished on 61 points, I'll definitely take that!

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    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Same here, and with only 10 players. Was expecting much worse. Will mean a healthy green from my lowly position.

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  30. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Fair to say we will all be cheering for Everton clean sheets in the coming weeks then 😀

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    1. DonTheSpecialOne
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No doubt!

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    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Their fixtures are ridiculous. Umming and arring over going 2 at the back with Lukaku or 1 def, mid and attack.

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    3. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      You got it right there.

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