The draw for the first round of the 2019/20 FFS Cup

FFS Cup February 25

FFS Paddy Power Cup IX and Members Cup IV – First Round Draws

We bring you the draws for the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Cup IX and FFS Members Cup IV, as sponsored by Paddy Power, after the qualifying rounds for both competitions took place over Gameweek 27:

First of all, entrants with a score of 56 points or more have earned a spot in the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Cup IX. If you scored 55 points, it was then down to overall rank to decide whether you progressed.

Our defending champion, Tdubb05, gets his title defence underway against stocherilac this weekend. Looking at some of the other previous winners, Jonty plays djt, MCH is up against Jambo 17, Donnellyc has cflanesra, Wild Rover goes head-to-head with Chobber Slops FC, whilst Gooner Dave has been drawn against JW.

Some of the plum ties amongst the community include Chu Young Ping Pong v Acquafresca, Bubbles against Yes the Sess! and Accounting on Chris v Attila the Bum.

Four of the current top 100 Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers are in the hat for this weekend’s matches. Gambiteer, Justoutsidethemoney and Forbes are amongst those high-fliers as is world number two Tom Fenley, whose opponent, Alistair, currently sits around the 23,000-mark.

If you’ve qualified or just fancy a nosey, click here to view the full First Round Draw.

Entrants with a score of 58 points or more will have made their way into the First Round of the Fantasy Football Scout Members Cup IV. If you scored 57 points, it was then down to overall rank to decide whether you progressed.

Defending champion Acquafresca is up against Caladan Brood, whilst another former winner, Fuzzy Dunlop, goes head-to-head with The EJJ in Gameweek 28.

Amongst the notable community match ups, contributors Big Dunc and In Tommy We Trust face up to EpicFail and Chu Young Ping Pong respectively, whilst Dino’s clash with Bootsy and Thomass67 against Absinthe also catch the eye.

Once again, Tom Fenley is the manager to avoid in this cup. This time, he’s up against tmidrew who, with a rank inside the top 4,000, will fancy his chances of causing an upset. You can click here to view the First Round Draw.

For a list of the prizes and dates of each round, check out this initial article. As always, good luck to all those involved.

1,815 Comments Post a Comment

Zeeco
10 years, 3 months ago
Cheers mate.will lovreen drop you think?
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Werkself
10 years, 3 months ago
So I captained Messi and he scored 7 pts, so I got 14. Do I switch to Ronaldo and give back 7 points, or keep Messi as captain for the sure thing?

Opinions please.

Thanks.
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1. chrisjdgrady
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Switch. One goal isn't great for a forward captained. Ronaldo can always explode
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Pomp and Circumstance
10 years, 3 months ago
UCL game--have Lewandowski as captain--20 points (10 x 2), 2 goals; stay with Lewandowski as captain or make Ronaldo captain ahead of tomorrow's game at Schalke?

thanks...
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1. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Double figures is an automatic stick for me
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2. chrisjdgrady
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Typically I stick with two goals
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3. Werkself
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I'd keep the 20.
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Obi Wan Elokobi
10 years, 3 months ago
Ok here's my idea list things that manage better than David Moyes. Here's mine:

http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/247/history/

Steve Kean
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1. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  That guy's transfer history just broke my Internet
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  1. Obi Wan Elokobi
    10 years, 3 months ago
    I saw his points and thought wtf
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Licky
10 years, 3 months ago
God help the quality of conversation on this sight if Moyes is sacked, I suppose if he does we'll at least have one last hurrah, before its back to RMT's and trolling.
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1. wood is good
  10 years, 3 months ago
  nah theres always something football orientated to chat about. whilst i am loving united's
  decline, im also getting bored of the endles back page articles and forum convos about him.
  he clearly hasnt done well enough, that dosnt look like changing.
  if they dont sack him in the summer there mental.
  going to start getting some pretty narky shareholders if there isnt a shake up.
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  1. Hibbo
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Ironically you have joined the Moyes debate.
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  2. Obi Wan Elokobi
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Will never get tiresome think of the amount of times you have had to put with at least one united fan in your life with all there gory hunting football knowledge and now it's time to get them back
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Zeeco
10 years, 3 months ago
Cheers mate.will lovreen drop you think
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Not much joy with the reply button eh? 😉
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Haha fails everywhere 😉
  
  Nah, doesn't look like it
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Pepereina Pizza
10 years, 3 months ago
A post-GW29 challenge for you all:

Pick one:

Eden Hazard (0 dgw's)
vs.
Yaya Toure (3 dgw's)
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1. wood is good
  10 years, 3 months ago
  really?
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  1. Pepereina Pizza
    10 years, 3 months ago
    really.
    
    if you could only have one, which would you choose. That is really the question. Really.
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Sounds like a dick answer, but both. You just need both.
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  1. Cheeseoid
    10 years, 3 months ago
    I agree
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    1. Pepereina Pizza
      10 years, 3 months ago
      is having both better than having (suarez-sturridge-aguero) ?
      
      I'm not skimping in defense to get all 5
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      1. Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        you would rather have defenders then haz?
        
        all 5 would be perfect with 2 big hitting def and 3 budget
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        Woy of the Wovers
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Disagree. Hazard has 9 games. Coleman has 11. Kompany has 12.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        10 years, 3 months ago
        ^^^This is precisely what i am trying to do
        
        downgrade Hazard to someone like AJ, netting 4.2m
        
        and spread that 4.2m over my defense.
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        Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        then they can be your 2 big hitters.
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      2. Give The Todd Some Love
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Again, think all 5 is pretty important. Those 5 will get you more points than any decent defenders
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        wood is good
        10 years, 3 months ago
        so my answer really is yaya.
        he has three more fixtures!
        but obviously you should have both
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        Pepereina Pizza
        10 years, 3 months ago
        thank you for answering.
        
        I favor Yaya as well, at the expense of Hazard.
        Not because everyone should follow my lead, but because I want my defensive titans to be my team's differentiator.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        10 years, 3 months ago
        I disagree with that, and my team's bias will be toward quality at the back.
        We're straying from my question, but the difference I'm looking at is this:
        
        A.johnson+ (Kompany, Ivanovic, Coleman, Evra)
        
        -versus-
        
        Hazard + (Ivanovic, Jagielka, Fonte, Ward)
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        wood is good
        10 years, 3 months ago
        dont like the company pick .
        ward could score close to evra anyway!
        im going completely the other way and ubering up but its all personal choice.
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        Pepereina Pizza
        10 years, 3 months ago
        I probably won't buy Evra, but that was just to illustrate my point.
        
        4.2m downgrade from Hazard, imo, can be recovered (and then some) with hard-hitting DGW-heavy defenders with little likelihood of rotation.
        ** in Kompany's case, I may go with Hart instead. Can't chance dgw's on Zaba/Kola
        
        If you sort "all players" by "value(season)", the defenders rule the roost. They get more PPG, and top out at 6.5 for the superstars. Bargain.
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        wood is good
        10 years, 3 months ago
        fair enough and i suppose with the extra fixtures kompany maybe isnt such a bad shout.
        i just like the prospect of my gw 31 team being stacked full of big hitting attackers , and then a couple of hull and a wham defender.
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3. Nabs Kebabs
  10 years, 3 months ago
  im gonna drop haz for aj or nolan gw 30/31. have yaya.
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  1. Pepereina Pizza
    10 years, 3 months ago
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qstnz8gKgHQ/UZ-w3YI3oEI/AAAAAAAAC8g/j_4H8Q7L4lU/s1600/KnowingLookBrettBurke.gif
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    1. Nabs Kebabs
      10 years, 3 months ago
      😆
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Whitman2013
10 years, 3 months ago
rvp back at the arsenal?

it is not so crazy....

moot point

do you think this would ever happen? would you want it too?
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1. ~SpartakMac
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I think Wenger would be open to it happening.
  
  However,
  
  He also understand that the fans/players don't want this at all, so it will never happen.
  
  Also think RVP is too stubborn to do a U-turn!
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    dont you think if he signed for arsenal first game of the season
    
    he plays tot away and scores he willl be instantly forgiven?
    
    i think arsenal fans would love to see him back hes an excellent scorer they feel betrayed but having him back
    
    would say more good about arsenal then bad
    
    afterall everyone makes mistakes.
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    1. ~SpartakMac
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Perhaps, but you're talking about Man U as if they're a full on casualty. As I see it their season is just a blip.
      
      Bags of cash to sign players over the Summer, the football will come again and the little boy inside of RVP will be happy again.
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      1. Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        no thats possibly true....
        
        its a blip in my eyes too.. its an interesting one none the less
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2. UnderstandablyDistraught
  10 years, 3 months ago
  We shouldn't even consider taking him back. Horrible statement by the club if they do
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    not a statement that we mean business and will go tail to tail with the biggest club in epl history? im not saying your wrong im just intrigued.... surely its better then jm getting his grubby paws on him
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    1. wood is good
      10 years, 3 months ago
      jm wouldnt want him i dont think.
      poor defensive workrate.
      as a gooner id be pretty annoyed if he returned.
      love watching him suffer.
      this all makes me not very nice and the respect him and arsene have for each other is much more admirable.
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    2. UnderstandablyDistraught
      10 years, 3 months ago
      I would prefer a move for a younger, proven striker. A long term contract for someone as injury prone as RVP at his age could prove most unwise. I also think that it's best to move on and not look back
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Del Monte
10 years, 3 months ago
Will Moyes be sacked if Utd lose next 3?
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1. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  No
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2. Licky
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Out of the Champions League and 14+ points off fourth, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.
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3. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Doubt it. Summer talks with owners and budgets set and targets identified.
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4. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  doubtful they will want to show stability
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5. ~SpartakMac
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Why now?
  
  Sunderland loss at home is worse than Olympiacos loss away, it's just the manor of the defeat last night which puts his tenure in danger. At least in the fans eyes.
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6. simsey
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Yes
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WorldCupDanB
10 years, 3 months ago
Would somebody be kind enough to check that I am in both cup draws please, I can't find myself as I don't have a search function on my phone.
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Who are we looking for?
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  1. WorldCupDanB
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Anonymous
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  2. Woy of the Wovers
    10 years, 3 months ago
    It could be anybody....
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    1. WorldCupDanB
      10 years, 3 months ago
      No, no it couldn't
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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        10 years, 3 months ago
        you're right, it's somebody posing as anybody
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        WorldCupDanB
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Thanks
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  3. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    clearly this is a joke but the mods still bend over backwards to help others...
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Licky
10 years, 3 months ago
Night all.
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Night LL
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Del Monte
10 years, 3 months ago
Does Moyes have too big an ego to get help from Phelan, Meulensteen or Steele? Or have they all said too much about the club meaning bosses won't want them back?
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Strificus
10 years, 3 months ago
Yaya -> Paulinho

Should I pull the trigger?

I stand to lose a fair bit on Yaya; as I had him from the start.
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1. Obi Wan Elokobi
  10 years, 3 months ago
  No, never
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2. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  If you can afford him back.
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3. Pepereina Pizza
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I would try to work-around.
  What would your team look like if you used that transfer to improve elsewhere?
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4. wood is good
  10 years, 3 months ago
  whats your sale price for yaya?
  i did yaya > ince earlier which felt a bit weird...
  my sp was 9.9 though so will hardly lose out if at all
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5. simsey
  10 years, 3 months ago
  No. Lallana, Puncheon or Snodgrass are better bets over nxt 5 GW's
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Somalion
10 years, 3 months ago
Night guys, good chats had.
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  We need a log in/out book, Night Somalion
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  1. Somalion
    10 years, 3 months ago
    I like that idea ILF! Take it handy!
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2. Give The Todd Some Love
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Agreed. Ima hit the hay as well
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  1. Somalion
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Give the hay some love 😉 😯
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HarryS
10 years, 3 months ago
Adrian
Fonte - Azpi - Collins
Haz - Yaya - Mata - Lallana
Suarez - Dzeko - Sturridge

Mannone - Noone - Ward - Olsson

Which to downgrade to do Dzeko to Adebayor
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1. Pepereina Pizza
  10 years, 3 months ago
  mata
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  1. HarryS
    10 years, 3 months ago
    To who max £9.2m?
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    1. Whitman2013
      10 years, 3 months ago
      why take mata out when yaya has two blanks.....
      and ince.. for now maybe
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michaelington
10 years, 3 months ago
What are peoples strategies for GW 29? Im thinking just sticking with what I have and save any transfers for the DGW? Is that the general consensus is around here? Im chasing a lead of about 55 points just to throw that in there.
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Manky Yanc
10 years, 3 months ago
Are all the DGW's expected to fall into GW31 eventually or are there some that probably won't? (Other than City & Everton's extras)?

Have the luxury of having my original WC left but am struggling to know when to use it!

None of the GW31 DGW's look that enticing so far and I already have 3 Pool & 2 Everton

Please say I haven't saved it this long just to stock up on Hull players?!
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FACUPARSE
10 years, 3 months ago
Best chance of CS for GW31

West Ham (MANU/HULL)
Hull (WBA/west ham)
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1. Woy of the Wovers
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I'd say Hull but just gut feel.
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2. ~SpartakMac
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Hull I think, but a close one.
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3. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Looks solid, doubling on both?
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BeachBadger
10 years, 3 months ago
AH I need a striker for the next two weeks and I really haven't a clue. Who would you choose? Already have Ade and 3 Southampton so Lambert not an option. Frustrating.
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1. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  not the best but
  
  what about
  
  crouch
  hooper
  jones
  chamakh
  really punty... etoo
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  1. BeachBadger
    10 years, 3 months ago
    All pretty bad options aren't they? Imay just take the punt on Eto and hope he bags a hat trick again
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    1. Whitman2013
      10 years, 3 months ago
      yeah or go 5 man mid? or 4 in def?
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      1. BeachBadger
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Mata and Silva on the bench for me. Dzeko and Erisken need to go.
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PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
10 years, 3 months ago
Yes all these banking geniuses that finance our prestigious clubs remind me of the honorable think tanks that built the Maginot Line.

And when the Germans calmly bypassed it by marching through Belgium we celebrate it with the Etonian brain childs that are still pompously strutting their stuff in the square mile of London, Shaking hands with Arab and Russian billionaires.
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Parm
10 years, 3 months ago
Night all.

I leave you with my updated fixture spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AhFqkaFEe92idENGTktEQV9hQXNhM2xQRlZLVHlIUmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
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1. Werkself
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Thanks.
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Werkself
10 years, 3 months ago
My opponent in the Members Cup 1st round has the same overall points total as I. Was the draw random?
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~SpartakMac
10 years, 3 months ago
Probably a bit late on this one, but what does Rooney honestly spend his 300k a week on?

Can only buy so many holiday homes abroad which he'll use for 1 week a year or cars to drive a couple of miles here and there.

Does he donate a big chunk to charity or has his own foundation?
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1. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  doubtful....
  
  lovers behind coleens back
  
  hey im sure i could blow 37k a day
  
  oh and a quick point..... he probs earns double this with sponsorships and add ons and what not....
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  1. wood is good
    10 years, 3 months ago
    but 40% less once taxed
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    1. Whitman2013
      10 years, 3 months ago
      poor guy :P.
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2. Caine & Co.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  He wants to earn more than qnyone else. Its not qbout spending the money
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  1. ~SpartakMac
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Nail, meet head.
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3. Hibbo
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Hair plugs, pukka pies and making that rat he's going with look above average.
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FionnMac
10 years, 3 months ago
Eriksen owners - are we all finally getting rid this week or anybody keeping?

Best replacement for next 3 gameweeks £6.9m or less (still have WC to play before GW31)
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1. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  adam snoddy ince probs your best shouts why not give him one last chance in a tasty looking fixture?
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  1. FionnMac
    10 years, 3 months ago
    been saying that for couple weeks but sherwood looks to have properly taken the hump with him!
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    1. Whitman2013
      10 years, 3 months ago
      its strange no doubt!! if you dont want the headache ship out 🙂
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HurriKane
10 years, 3 months ago
LOL Read the top comment 😛 (between the 8 comment was spot on)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2256115/Liverpool-sign-Daniel-Sturridge-Chelsea.html
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1. HurriKane
  10 years, 3 months ago
  "in the best rated
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    which one copy and paste it?
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FPL Daniel
10 years, 3 months ago
Did Pullis say in interview that the will play with Everton GW 31 midweek? We only wait official confirmation right?
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I was hoping that would be another GW. You're probably right though.
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    why would pulis refer to it as gw 31??
    
    yes we need confirmation
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Pigvig
10 years, 3 months ago
Can't find my name on the list. I'm sure I entered on time 🙁
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1. UnderstandablyDistraught
  10 years, 3 months ago
  How many pts did you score last week?
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  1. Pigvig
    10 years, 3 months ago
    79 with no hits. Must have not submitted it right...
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    1. UnderstandablyDistraught
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Must be the case. Pity.
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  2. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    what is this i got 102, rank of 17k am i in?
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    1. Pigvig
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Paddy Power Cup. See the article above. You had to apply for it though. Don't ask me how because I clearly don't know...
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      1. Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        sorry man
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      2. Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        its called the fantasy football scout members cup
        
        as were not members im guessing we cant join...
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2. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  wat ?
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theloveburglar
10 years, 3 months ago
alot of moyes bashing on here tonight.. im sure most of it by non man united fans and those who take more interest in the troubles of united than their own teams but no surprise there...

the favoured argument that seems to be used as a stick to beat moyes with is the fact that united won the league by 11 points last year and he inherited the champions.. now this is very true however with a coach in place that quite simply is the best the english game has ever seen had been there 26 years and was loved respected and feared in equal measure by each and every squad member.. moyes has been there 8 or 9 months..

the squad he took charge of has been in steady decline since 2009 when we sold the worlds best player ronaldo.. fergie knew it deep down.. we won that league last season pretty much by default.. our challengers floundered around us chelsea involved in europa league football fell away in the league and man city players due to some brutal man management by mancini didnt wanna play for him.. there was enough cannon fodder in the league to win it with sheer firepower aka rvp who was played pretty much every game scoring 30 odd goals...

the scary form of rvp alone was enough to paper over the cracks of a brutal central midfield last year and get the title back from city before fergie packed it in and left a winner... with mourinho returning to chelsea and mancini given the boot at city he knew he wouldnt be retaining it and bailed..

so what moyes was actually left with was a waste ground of a midfield to be fair and his 2 best players rooney and rvp only available to start together maybe 10 or so times i think this season due to injuries.. in other words the paper over the cracks that fergie enjoyed wasnt there anymore and the sub standard midfield brutally exposed and we have been pissed on by and over run by any team who has had the plums to have a go at us..

on top of that its obvious he has been let down badly by underperforming players and in particular vidic and evra his captain and vice 2 players he should of been able to rely on but have between them on numerous occasions cost us points through schoolboy errors and total lack of concentration at times not to mention de gea howler which cost us a place in a wembley final..

mistakes have been made yes his tactics are questionable i admit but hes been there 9 months ffs and that midfield and much of the defence needs rubbed out and drawn again its as simple as that...

our position in the league is probably fair when u consider our midfield options

the guy is no mug he must be given time to do his own thing before we judge him.. he built a very good team at everton a team that also played very attractive football but it takes time..

its rough going right now no doubt but we have seen enough success over the years to handle a few less successful while this team is rebuilt dont forget fergie went 3 years without a league title when mourinho arrived and started writing his blank cheques..
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1. Cheeseoid
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Loooooong. My mind cannot comprehend. I'll give it a shot. I have Moyes so far
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  1. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    stick it out mate.. i went into one alright lol
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  2. Cheeseoid
    10 years, 3 months ago
    I'm going for a coffee to help me finish. Pro Moyes right?
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    1. theloveburglar
      10 years, 3 months ago
      im undecided mate i just find it impossible to judge right now.. certainly not in the moyes out camp
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2. Pigvig
  10 years, 3 months ago
  You forgot to mention Scholes and Giggs. They were important for Fergie last year too.
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  1. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    indeed but the contrast in rvp last year and this down to persistent niggly injuries is key
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3. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  i disagree with the first line
  
  most of the "Moyes bashing" comes from man united fans
  
  other fans say give it time be paitent etc
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  1. UnderstandablyDistraught
    10 years, 3 months ago
    this be the verse
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  2. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    well i hope its a small minority of man u fans
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    1. Whitman2013
      10 years, 3 months ago
      otherwise excellent piece... as an arsenal fan its sad to see
      
      arsenal and united are the clubs with the most values and deserve to fight
      (i mean out of the top clubs im sure luton plmouth shrewsbury etal all have decent morales)
      
      chelsea and city brought the way up....
      
      united i fear will have to do the same but will come good..
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      1. theloveburglar
        10 years, 3 months ago
        thanks mate
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4. Pepereina Pizza
  10 years, 3 months ago
  i think RVP would truly have stood a chance of being "essential" this season if SAF had stuck around.
  
  Where the failure happened was in the expectations of Moyes, but that really couldn't have been helped at all. The team had been the essence of achievement for like 20 years. Didn't matter WHO took over, they were doomed for a fall.
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5. ~SpartakMac
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Make some good points, however when players think they're bigger than the club (Rooney) and players think they're better than the team (RVP) how does the manager which they clearly don't respect resolve this?
  
  Very hard to regain confidence in a manager you don't believe in, particularly with the world cup this Summer rather than a longer break to fix the many cracks.
  
  Starting fresh, with someone like Klopp could be the way forward.
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  1. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    im very much an admirer of klopp mate and would of been my first choice if im honest but it wasnt to be
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  2. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    or get rid of the egotistical dimwits.
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6. Hibbo
  10 years, 3 months ago
  When Jose turned about with Romans cheque book United contested titles with them.
  
  Stick with Moyes, you'll never contest another title again.
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    this is a silly comment. the united hierarchy are able to turn this around and moyes is too.. not a united fan in anyway
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    1. Hibbo
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Call it what you want. If you disagree fine but silly?
      
      I'd imagine they thought they'd free wheel into the Champions League next season but that isn't happening.
      
      We will all get to see how it pans out I'd imagine at some point in the future Moyes will get the sack.
      
      City & Chelsea battling the title will become the norm.
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      1. Whitman2013
        10 years, 3 months ago
        im not saying your view is silly - just the way its expressed i.e so cocksure no one can say anything with real authority as we just dont know we can only speculate...
        
        no its a bad season no doubt. so do you think arsenal and liverpool will fall away or not even involved?
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        Hibbo
        10 years, 3 months ago
        I call it as I see it.
        
        Two horse race in my book.
        
        Arsenal have already conceded and Liverpool don't have the defence or squad.
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        10 years, 3 months ago
        arsenal are right there
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  2. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    like i said mate iv seen enough success over the years to have a few less so... i dont like repeating myself but moyes clearly has know how in building a squad and only time will tell if he can do that at old trafford.. juan mata isnt a bad start
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    1. Hibbo
      10 years, 3 months ago
      You can sign whoever you want it ain't going to work under Moyes. He's been a bum candidate from day one but its seems to still have not dawned on you. Successful club appoint manager who has never had success. He's out of his depth looks a beaten man and totally lacking in confidence that shows on his face you can't inspire confidence in others when its quite clear you've none yourself.
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      1. UnderstandablyDistraught
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Why are we led to believe that Ferguson handpicked him then? I've only seen two names put forward here as alternatives and both manage other big clubs. Moyes has more tactical nous than he's been given credit for(in spite of this season) and it's been a rough road for him as a first season manager. There's a learning curve for him too.
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        Hibbo
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Why did Fergie buy Bebe? Or Zaha? Or Djemba-Djemba?
        
        I'm sure he in his judgement he decided they were worth the fee paid.
        
        Maybe his judgement was wrong here too.
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        UnderstandablyDistraught
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Maybe. He's not infallible. You are however picking a few pieces of coal from a box of gems
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      2. theloveburglar
        10 years, 3 months ago
        out of interest mate who do u support?
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7. simsey
  10 years, 3 months ago
  1 RVP didnt win the league on his own, where did the chances come from?
  
  2 brutal central midfield - Moyes has spent 64million on players that werent needed and the MF is still 'brutal'. He ignored Matic, Cabaye, Lallana, Strootman and many others to waste money on Fellaini.
  
  3 The team are a tactical mess, this is the main problem, not this 'perceived' lack of quality. The quality is there. Not enough quality to beat Newcastle, Cardiff, WBA, Fulham - please......
  
  4. The players are underperforming because has has not managed to motivate them to believe in his methods/tacics. Speaking about the 'brutal' MF - Garreth Barry is a perfect example of how a player can perform in an organised system with decent instructions to follow and a clear job to do. The form of Fellaini, Cleverly, Carrick this season is what you get with crap management
  
  5. A decent ,anager would have beaten the teams i mentioned above and United would be at least 12 points better off. Why? because the standard of the PL isnt that great, even sherwood has spurs in 5th! Christ even Pardew has his squad only 5 points further back.
  
  To think Moyes will manage a team to a league or European title is laughable. He needs to go, pronto
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  1. Hibbo
    10 years, 3 months ago
    The most sense I've read on the topic.
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  2. theloveburglar
    10 years, 3 months ago
    1. that league title wouldnt of been won without rvp.. we wouldnt even have been close... he did
    
    2. the summer transfer window was a bit of a disaster theres no getting away from that but moyes was never gunna be able to transform a midfield in a couple of months all the while trying to keep our best player from joining chelsea.. the best move he made was conving rooney to stay and his form this season has proven that.. fellainis been injured for about 4 months of the season and adjusting to a totally different postion to what he was playing at everton so largely we have been operating with the same options in the centre of the park..
    
    3. i refered to the questionable tactics and one of those teams u mentioned when they beat us had 2 central midfielders in cabaye and tiote that would walk onto our team... refer to my point also about our league position being fair considering midfield options
    
    4. cleverleys form was just as awful last year under ferguson and admittedly carricks was alot better altho he did have paul scholes at times along side him i would probably look pretty accomplished myself with scholes beside me... fellaini been out for about 4 months as i said hasnt got going yet we what the guy is capable of and he has been one of the top players in the league for the last few seasons and who was his manager? oh yeah
    
    5. the standard of the teams at the top of the prem is alot stronger than last year i hate having to repeat myself but as i pointed out chelsea man city not to mention arsenal and liverpool are alot stronger this time around... teams like spurs evrton newcastle southampton have stronger central midfield options than we do its simple as that
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    1. simsey
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Then stop repeating yourself and look at things from a different angle. Youre exactly like Moyes with your posts, repeating the same thing over and over and hoping for a different outcome.
      The results speak for themselves. Just cos youve backed yourself into a corner sticking up for Moyes doesnt make you right.
      
      Apart from that we say a lot of the same things but you still think Moyes is the man and should be given time - that doesn't make any sense. Youre basically contradicting your own points and donning the 'rose tinted glasses'.
      A fresh look at the evidence will do you some good, honestly.
      
      And talking about our position being fair considering the MF options is not smart. Teams aren't made up of 8 MF's. How long have people been saying that Ferguson needed to sign a new Roy Keane or new Paul Scholes? He still won leagues and got to 3 CL finals. The reason is that he could get the best from what was at his disposal. Moyes clearly cannot...
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      1. theloveburglar
        10 years, 3 months ago
        he still won leagues and got to 3 cl finals... im aware of that mate he also had the best back 5 in world football at that time paul scholes and not to mention cristiano ronaldo... again i refered to this point that the team since then has been in steady decline.. ronaldo was replaced with antonio valencia for a start lol.. they havnt had a sniff of a cl final since and if u think that this squad currently should be competing with the like of barca and bayern as they once did then ur the one needs to take off the rose tinted glasses..
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  3. ~SpartakMac
    10 years, 3 months ago
    Great post.
    Points 3 & 4 really are at the heart of the whole argument.
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8. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Good post.
  
  The transition period has been tough for Utd and the manager has been the main focus for the hysteria. I think Alex gave a good speech when he retired and the words I particularly remember was that the fans should give patience to their new manager and structure. (Almost like he knew there will be trouble ahead)
  
  Anyway transition is over now and the people that work at Manchester United are grounded into their roles to give service to the good people that support their club.
  
  I fecking hate the fact money has been axed between the fans of football and the money gangsters of corrupt greed but feel some how in the end the mansions the bent murderers and prostitutes are living in at the moment will one day be a distant memory when the previous owners are hiding in a sewer pipe full of the shit that they created.
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  1. Whitman2013
    10 years, 3 months ago
    if alex knew he should have began to rectify it before he left not just left it in a sorry mess...
    
    its not all moyes fault
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    1. simsey
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Not all his fault...
      the same squad (bolstered with Moyes 27m midfield signing( went from a refs decision from beating Real Madrid last season to being drubbed by a team that sold its best player to bottom of the table Fulham.
      
      Whos fault is this?
      It must be that every player at United has suddenly decided to perform to 60% of his capabilities since Ferguson left. Yep, just decided, feck this I couldn't be arsed....
      Or could it be that the same professionals are following crap instructions which are leading to crap performances leading to crap results leading to loss of confidence in manager and system which feeds crap performances etc all over again.
      Theyre getting worse, not better.
      
      I give up, how are United going to sack the most loved manager in their history?
      Loved by Chelsea fans, idolised by Liverpool fans, adored by City fans (you get the drift)
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      1. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Feckers. Go rely fail somewhere else. Feckers...
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        PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Reply yer Go reply fail somewhere else Muppets!!
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    2. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Get off my reply you feckers
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    3. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      10 years, 3 months ago
      Stop Fannying around my reply it has no relevance to my response.
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      1. simsey
        10 years, 3 months ago
        dude put out the J and close the bottle 🙂
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        PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
        10 years, 3 months ago
        Man I never was criticizing the Red Head my response was more lucid and I'm just saying the Fanny is farting out of a tight hole only dogs can hear. Get Me.!
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Blue Lion
10 years, 3 months ago
Morning Guys. UCL related question.

Whom to bench?

Alaba with 5 points or Marcelo?

Other defenders in the 11 are VDW (6),Marcano(8),Ivanovic.

One more slot left. So who should i put there?
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1. In Like Flynn.
  10 years, 3 months ago
  I slept and missed my transfers tonight, very cross.
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2. chrisjdgrady
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Keep. Don't have a low scoring mid you could bring him in for instead?
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Hibbo
10 years, 3 months ago
Favourite savoury snack? Serious craving for a steak and cheese pie.
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1. Whitman2013
  10 years, 3 months ago
  savoury snack... is there such a thing
  
  choclate and chrisps 😛
  
  fruit? is this savoury ol
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2. UnderstandablyDistraught
  10 years, 3 months ago
  Chocolate dipped bacon
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