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World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 4, Day 4

We reach the final day of Matchday 4 this evening as the World Cup edges towards the quarter-final stages. Argentina and Switzerland go head-to-head in the early 5pm kick-off as Alejandro Sabella’s look to maintain their 100% record so far, while Lionel Messi’s Fantasy owners will be optimistic of picking up the points in a round which has seen the likes of Neymar, Robin Van Persie and Karim Benzema fail to score over the previous three evenings:

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Fernandez, Garay, Rojo; Gago, Mascherano, Di Maria; Messi, Higuain, Lavezzi

Switzerland: Benaglio; Lichtsteiner, Djourou, Schar, Rodriguez; Inler, Behrami; Xhaka, Shaqiri Mehmedi; Drmic

Argentina make just one enforced change from the side that saw off Nigeria last time around, with Ezequiel Lavezzi replacing the injured Sergio Aguero in the front three. Having scored four of his side’s six goals, Messi is the standout option for the South Americans, with the likes of Gonzalo Higuain and Angel di Maria yet to pick up any returns whatsoever over their first three matches.

Switzerland, unsurprisingly, are changed from the XI that swept aside Honduras in the final group match. Fabian Schar continues in central defence, then, with Ricardo Rodriguez owners looking for further attacking returns from the raiding left-back, who already has a couple of assists to his name. Further up the field, Xherdan Shaqiri is the form player, having bagged a hat-trick against the Hondurans, while Josip Drmic also arrives on the back of a decent display which served up a pair of assists in the 3-0 win.

Later in the evening, Belgium seek to extend a record which has seen them win every match in the tournament. Marc Wilmots made a number of changes for the final group game against South Korea and Fantasy favourites such as Eden Hazard and Kevin de Bruyne are expected to return to the starting XI against the USA. Divock Origi may fancy his chances of a start up front after another impressive display off the bench last time around, whilst at the back, the Belgians will be desperate for Vincent Kompany to recover in time for tonight’s clash as they look to maintain a series of defensive displays which has seen them concede just a single spot-kick so far.

After beating Ghana and drawing with Portugal, Jurgen Klinsmann’s side tasted defeat in their final group game against Germany. The USA will be looking to bounce back immediately and Clint Dempsey, with a goal in each of his first two appearances, is the main threat for the underdogs, though Graham Zusi, with two assists to his name, and Jermaine Jones, with a goal and assist to date, could be key to Klinsmann’s chances of springing an upset.

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  1. Bubz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So unlucky. Feel for USA. Very impressive stuff.

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    1. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Great game. Teams like USA and Algeria putting the likes of England, Italy, Portugal, etc. to shame.

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    2. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      True, great effort

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  2. Heydudes13
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Chile Mexico Greece Nigeria Algeria Switzeland and USA have all given it a great f***ing go. Fair play to them.

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      #JusticeForUruguay

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Deliberately left them out as they didn't. Just hacked people and did nothing.

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      2. CellinoArmy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        They only got through thanks to Suarez so wasn't a surprise to see them crumble.

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    2. CellinoArmy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Switzerland and USA both missed point Blank chances though. Really Dissapointed to see Switzerland fall late after having more dangerous chances throughout.

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  3. Zep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Team Brazil have been humbled by Team Netherlands...

    Very impressive scoring this week guys...

    Well done Saniul & co... good luck in the QFs...

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    1. pompeyfan
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks, very gratious of you

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    2. Saniul
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks, Zep. You guys put up a great fight, but Snake getting more than 50 points today was unbelievable.

      Did we win 4-1, then?

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    3. Amateur Pundit Zan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Wow hosts crash out. Great work fellow group b (group of death) comrades.

      Our game with Croatia is going down to the wire

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  4. Evs
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    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    See, Gary Wilmot should have played Lukakaaaa from the start 🙂

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    1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      not at all. he is only good when he has space and defenders are too tired to defend properly

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  5. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    That was so exciting that I stayed up past my bedtime!!!

    Dont tell my mummy!

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    1. JT's Dog
        9 years, 11 months ago

        She is sleeping so I won't

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        1. r0nh
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks, very considerate of you 🙂

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    2. crystalpalaceRus
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      ALL the losers of this round put in 110%

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      1. CellinoArmy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Except Uruguay, they were fairly ordinary.

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    3. teddy.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      121 in McFifa

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        134 here... hoping it's enough.

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    4. Konig Luther
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I would like to say thanks to my mother for I be alive, and watch extra times like argentina - switzzerland and belgium - usa.. 😀

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      1. 4vets
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Is it safe to say your mum's a bitch?

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    5. DonTheSpecialOne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      SPORT Humour
      @sporthumour

      Just tried following Tim Howard on twitter... Got blocked.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😆

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      2. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        . 😀

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    6. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      sensational extra-time period in particular, well done to Belgium and commiserations to USA. They really had go and made a great spectacle of it. Heads held high...

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    7. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      You only see games like this when Premier League players are involved.
      Best league in the world.
      Most exciting league in the world.
      Most competitive league in the world etc

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Where do the England team play their domestic football?

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        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Don't you know? 😯

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Is this common knowledge? What am i missing?

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      2. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        The problem is the best players in the Premier League aren't English

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    8. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Really annoys me that America is getting into football. It isn't for them. Having nightmares of foam fingers and cheerleaders at games

      Cannot see a country that arrogant and stuck up as underdogs

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      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😯

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      2. JT's Dog
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Read that second sentence too quick
          😯

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        • Werkself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Come see a Sounders game. You'll be pleasantly surprised.

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        • Zep
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          They have a chip on their shoulder when they play football because of the perceived notion that they are inferior to other football dominating countries...

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        • chrisjdgrady
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          It happens during all World Cups, it will pass. There's plenty of real fans here that go out at 5am to a pub and watch EPL games. These drunk baseball fans temporarily posing as football fans will be over it after today.

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          1. Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            i see. the incessant "we will win" chants were infuriating! must have been the drunk baseball fans!

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            1. The Enlightener
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Dude, you're a regular idiot. Who do you support? And how proud have they made you? You are making incendiary comments that are unfounded. To me, that is about as pathetic as a human can be. You take that medal and wear it proudly, as I'm sure you will. You seem like the perfect type to get it all wrong and to strut your stuff while doing it.

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            2. chrisjdgrady
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              You're being a twat but I can't deny many of my fellow Americans are annoying right now. Basically use the World Cup as an excuse to black out and yell at the tv

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        • Frip
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          piss off

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        • Pork Pie Sausage Roll
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          If they do take it seriously it's only a matter of time before they dominate the sport. Too much money and too big a population for it to not happen

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          1. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            There will be no more draws then, and power plays and..... oh god, NO.

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            1. chrisjdgrady
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              That stuff already happened in the US league back in the day that guys like Pele played in and loved.

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      3. JT's Dog
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Anyone have howard

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        • Werkself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Has a player from a losing team been named MOTM? If not, Howard should be the 1st.

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          1. Tony Warner Fan Club
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Mbolhi was MOTM in the Germany game, I believe.

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          2. Zep
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Yep Mbolhi and Howard just now...

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            1. Werkself
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Mbolhi also deserved it for sure.

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        • BONZ
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          What a game!!

          Belgium should have won it in the 2nd half but Howard would not let them pass...but they killed the game off in 1st half of ET but then USA were superb.

          Great goal by the unknown Bayern lad - Green, then that free kick routine deserved an equaliser they really did go at it and was desperately unlucky.

          Pity they couldnt take ot to pens.

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            But what of team McUruguay ?

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            1. BONZ
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              not expecting to progress 🙁

              lost our bite!

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        • Pilleri
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Howard 20
          KDB 17

          I don't have either. If you captained one of them, my hat is off to you.

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        • JT's Dog
            9 years, 11 months ago

            KDB never ran like that when I owned him
            Twat

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            1. Bubz
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah rather annoyed I sold him now 😡

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              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                me too. And Di Maria... AND Lukaku...

                Knobs.

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                1. Heydudes13
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  I stuck by Di Maria then accidentally left him on the bench! 😡

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                  1. 7shadesofsmoke
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    haha, even more frustrating!

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                  2. Gnu
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Jeez, that's really bad luck!

                    *trys to suppress laugh*

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              2. GreenWindmill
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Wish MajorFail had sold him too!

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                1. Bubz
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Any idea what the scores look like between me and my opponent in your team? I am on 127?

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                  1. 7shadesofsmoke
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    not sure who Joga had playing but thats quite a score mate.

                    I think you lot have snuck it at the death. Well played.

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                    1. Bubz
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Cheeers 🙂

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                    2. GreenWindmill
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      I think Joga had KDB actually, that one could be ours, although I definitely lost to MajorFail - possibly all down to the Aatish-Meerlight game.

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                      1. GreenWindmill
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I might be wrong though, I'm on holiday this week so the alcohol is flowing 🙂

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                      2. 7shadesofsmoke
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        ooohhhh, this is exciting!

                        Amazing that this game has gone from being a major pain in the arse to something I am really enjoying and desperate to stay involved with.

                        Well done UEFA

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            2. GTS
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              and then people will buy him again on the next round then do nothing again. 😡

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              1. FlyingHamster
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                But he's cheap, you people shouldn't have done that.

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          • Louis
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Van Buyten lost his bonus 🙁 Back on 11pts.

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          • Carrick Doesn't Deserv…
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Van Buyten just lost a point?

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          • Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Never thought I'd be sad to see the States get knocked, what a credit.
            Michael Bradley was phenomnenal today, never rated him much but what a performance. Not the only one mind you, Besler, Yeldin,Jones... to name a few.

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            1. 4vets
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              The buggers stole my CS! 😉

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              1. Gnu
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Oh yeahhh, forgot about that.

                Go Home stupid Yanks 🙂

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                1. 4vets
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  That's the spirit! 😉

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          • crystalpalaceRus
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            So 24minutes till we can make transfers

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            1. 4vets
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              *'til *until

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          • Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Transfers open in 25 mins. What's the template team gonna be then? 😀

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            1. GTS
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Kdb and lukaku. Essential again. 😉

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              1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                🙂

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            2. Jimmers
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Worry about that tomorrow. Over 60 hours till next game

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              1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Only 60 hrs? 😉

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          • JT's Dog
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Wish I could play three keepers

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                You can keep them all if you want.

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                1. JT's Dog
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    But want to play them all

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                    1. 4vets
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      You can. one after another 🙂

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                      1. JT's Dog
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          I want them lined up like paper men in a row

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                  • Epic Fail
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    You can, but not at the same time.

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                    1. JT's Dog
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Stupid rule in my opinion

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                  • Piggs Boson
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Went to the shop, ended up in the pub 😆

                    Glad I haven't missed the FPL opening yet...

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                    1. GreenWindmill
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      🙄

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                    2. Jimmers
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      17mins away

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                  • CechYourself
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Is the pass completion point typically late ? KDB and alderwiereld both completed 80%+ (via squawka) and no points?

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                    1. GreenWindmill
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      It typically bears no relation to the actual stats, driven by a random number generator I think.

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                      1. 4vets
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        As are the rest of the points.

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                        1. CechYourself
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          Just checked , Valbuena had 94% the last day and nothing. In the groups karnezis had a clean sheet with 3 saves and got no save % bonus. Joke of a game.. Roll on FPL!!!

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                  • JT's Dog
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      The dogs are going home.
                      Had fun

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                      1. Konig Luther
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Thanks for all training

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                    • Tony Warner Fan Club
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      I think Team Germany's race is run.

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                      1. Gnu
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Really?

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                        1. 4vets
                          • 13 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          Really?

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                          1. Gnu
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 14 Years
                            9 years, 11 months ago

                            It's dark in here, innit?

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                            1. 4vets
                              • 13 Years
                              9 years, 11 months ago

                              Who said that?

                              Is that Gnu?

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                              1. Gnu
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 14 Years
                                9 years, 11 months ago

                                😆

                                Who farted? 😯

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                                1. 4vets
                                  • 13 Years
                                  9 years, 11 months ago

                                  That was the German guy 😉

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                      2. JT's Dog
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          Tired ourselves out in group of death

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                      3. Pilleri
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        8 group winners carry on

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                      4. Frip
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        What a show, so proud. I'd trade my 14th overall (with dirty van buyten pts) for .just a couple more minutes of stoppage time in a heartbeat

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                        1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
                          • 13 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          Your team did you proud! I thought they'd finish bottom of their group. Not only that but they were exciting. Fair play

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                      5. Heydudes13
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Pleased that round's over. Hummels, poor defender performances, Benzema, Djabou scoring and accidentally leaving Di Maria on the bench ruined it.

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                        1. Bubz
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 11 months ago

                          I'm sad there's less games now though 🙁

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                          1. Epic Fail
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 13 Years
                            9 years, 11 months ago

                            No games until Friday 😯

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                            1. Bubz
                              • 10 Years
                              9 years, 11 months ago

                              Honestly don't know how I'll cope. I think I'm going to need counselling once it actually ends.

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                              1. 7shadesofsmoke
                                • 11 Years
                                9 years, 11 months ago

                                I bought an Xbox One to see me through...

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                                1. 4vets
                                  • 13 Years
                                  9 years, 11 months ago

                                  Oh dear... PS4 is the way to go 🙂

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                                  1. 7shadesofsmoke
                                    • 11 Years
                                    9 years, 11 months ago

                                    not when your friends have an Xbox One

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                                2. Epic Fail
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 13 Years
                                  9 years, 11 months ago

                                  I think I'll be getting one of them soon.

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                                  1. Heydudes13
                                    • 12 Years
                                    9 years, 11 months ago

                                    Yes! 😀

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                                  2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
                                    • 13 Years
                                    9 years, 11 months ago

                                    I've got a PS4, as it's a far superior machine with more potential, but the XB1 has better games just now.

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                                    1. Heydudes13
                                      • 12 Years
                                      9 years, 11 months ago

                                      Destiny in September. 😎

                                      Got an Xbox One and honestly not that impressed with it. Most games aren't even in full 1080p. Titanfall's gotten so boring with lack of things to do on it. Every gsme's the same.

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                                    2. Epic Fail
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 13 Years
                                      9 years, 11 months ago

                                      Aye I've no doubt the PS4 is more powerful. I think it all comes down to the little things.

                                      If it was just for myself I'd probably go for the PS4, especially as I love Uncharted.

                                      But I think the Kinect is good for the kids. Plus friends have it too. No point having a machine that none of your friends have. 😀

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                                      1. 7shadesofsmoke
                                        • 11 Years
                                        9 years, 11 months ago

                                        this is the main reason i went Xbox.

                                        Oh, and Sony just can't seem to make a decent control pad. So annoying!

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                                        1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
                                          • 13 Years
                                          9 years, 11 months ago

                                          I thought the 360 controller was as close to perfection as you could get, and I HATED the PS2/3 controller.

                                          The PS4 controller is lovely though; actually prefer it to the 360's!

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                          2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
                            • 13 Years
                            9 years, 11 months ago

                            +1. The best part of the tournament is the group stages

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