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World Cup 2014 – Dugout Discussion – Matchday 6, Day 2

As the football fraternity still attempts to digest Germany’s 7-1 drubbing of Brazil, Holland and Argentina prepare for action in the second semi-final. Both sides made their way into the last four with narrow wins – the South Americans squeezed past Belgium with a third 1-0 win in four matches, whilst the Dutch required spot-kicks to finally get the better of Costa Rica:

Argentina: Romero; Zabaleta, Garay, Demichelis, Rojo; Mascherano, Biglia; Perez, Messi, Lavezzi; Higuaín

Holland: Cillessen; Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi; Kuyt Wijnaldum, De Jong, Blind; Sneijder; Van Persie Robben

Alejandro Sabella makes two alterations from his quarter-final line-up. At left-back, Marcos Rojo returns after serving a one-match suspension, whilst in midfield, Benfica’s Enzo Perez is afforded his first start of the tournament at the expense of the injured Angel di Maria. Up front, Sergio Aguero only makes the bench after missing the last two through injury.

Lionel Messi’s Fantasy owners will be hoping for a return to form after the forward delivered just a single assist over the last two matches. Gonzalo Higuain came to the rescue last weekend and, having opened his account for the campaign with a sweetly-taken winner against Belgium, will be in buoyant mood for tonight’s encounter. The rest of Sabella’s side need to step up, though – aside from Messi and Higuain, no Argentina player has had a hand in more than one goal thus far.

After failing to find a way past Keylor Navas last Saturday evening, Louis Van Gaal will be desperate for his side to return to the form that saw the Dutch net 12 times in their first four fixtures. The Holland boss makes just once change from the weekend, bringing in fit-again Nigel de Jong for Memphis Depay, with Wesley Sneijder moving forward into the role in “the hole” in a 3-4-1-2.

Robin van Persie has recovered from a stomach bug, then, and the United man, along with Arjen Robben, will be key to their side’s progress. After scoring three goals apiece in the opening couple of group games, the duo have hit a drought – the Bayern man has managed a pair of assists over the last three matches, whilst Van Persie has blanked in both his subsequent appearances.

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  1. Arvin-ation
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    Dropped rank 😕

    BRING ON DEPAY!

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      ^^^This

      I dropped Bernard for him (yes I had Bernard!)

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    2. Camp No No
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      Bring on Messi!!

      Seriously, where is he?

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      1. Condey
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        wake up Messi!!!

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  2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    Have two bets this game...

    Holland to win in ET
    Holland to win on penalties.

    Would you cash them in?

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Yes. 🙂

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    2. Gigging Order
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      Nope, looking good to me.

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    3. Ryan
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      No. Argentina will win.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        So yes then?

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        1. Ryan
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          So long as you bet on Argentina winning. Although if you can help it, avoiding betting altogether would be preferable. This is very much a 50/50 game but ET and penalty odds are against the Dutch here.

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    4. The Missing Link
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      Cash

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  3. Henry Hill
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    Google's daily doodle seems rather apt:

    https://www.google.ie/logos/doodles/2014/world-cup-2014-59-6270307799138304-hp.gif

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  4. Zep
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    Luiz > Bruno Martins Indi for a big floppy 2pts...

    Thanks man.

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    1. Gigging Order
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      🙁

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    2. DaveZubie
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      Does he get a cleanie if Arg dont score?

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      1. Zep
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        Nah he got subbed at HT...

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  5. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    annoyin thing that cleanies cant be awarded after 90 mins

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Should get 4 on 90
      Then 2 more at 120

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        yep sounds good

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  6. Henry Hill
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    Fun fact of the day - West Ham used to start Hayden Mullins over Javier Mascherano.

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      😆

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    2. Camp No No
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      They used to start who?

      No wonder they do so badly.

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    3. Gnu
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      Javier sat on the bench alongside Tevez, What a tw@t Pardew was!

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  7. the axolotl
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    excluding keepers & subs: MOST metres: biglia, 11389m FEWEST metres: messi, 8039m. MOST sprints: lavezzi, 62 FEWEST sprints: demichelis, 22

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      It's metres in the air. Robben 15.7

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      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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        **Most

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    2. Camp No No
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      Fewest meters: Messi, 1.51 with hat.

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  8. Bubz
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    Down to 21st in MacDs 🙁 🙁 Damn you Messi

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    1. Declan
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      Have you any defenders in this?

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      1. Bubz
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        Yeah Garay, De Vrij

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  9. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    It's certainly no Italy v Germany 2006 semi final

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    1. Mr Sarcastic
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      Ditto!!! At least there is always memories....

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  10. Henry Hill
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    Ozil has been woeful tonight. Completely anonymous again.

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    1. I.A.P
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      The only assist he'll get tonight is getting Klose to the loo.....

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  11. VougieDipond
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    Huntelaar for the troll

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  12. Djerbil
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    There is the Proof

    Messi would not be able to be cut it in a Wet Wednesday Night in Villa Park

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  13. Bøwstring The Carp
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    Van Gaal down a penalty taker,and without Krul 😯

    http://artsonline.monash.edu.au/mojo/files/2014/06/danger.png

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    1. Camp No No
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      He tries to win this without going to penalties.

      Can't blame him for that.

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    2. X T I A N
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      Why no Krul?

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      1. Camp No No
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        Because he has used all his substitutions.

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      2. Billy Gilmore
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        Already made 3 subs

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  14. Ryan
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    Replacing RVP was a good call I reckon.

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  15. Arvin-ation
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    Depay 🙁

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
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      Agreed
      I lost 4 points from Bernard 🙁

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      1. Arvin-ation
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        Have him in my team by accident 😛

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    2. Zep
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      Should've had a sub to come on... 🙁

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      1. Arvin-ation
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        Yeah .Tejeda 0 incoming 😕

        At least the world no. 1 has him and has Luiz coming on! 🙂

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      Who said my dutch defenders were bad? 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        I do! 😀

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        1. Billy Gilmore
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          I bloody sold Vlaar for Howedes for -3 as he was doubtful 😡

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      2. GreenWindmill
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        Erm, pretty sure it was you 😉

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  16. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Winner incoming

    Headline. Touch of Klass

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  17. Condey
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    Messi RB +1

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  18. Zep
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    Nice the leader in Fox is getting Luiz (-1) off his bench...

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    1. Arvin-ation
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      🙂

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  19. Wilshere Knowledge
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    Has Aguero touched yhe ball yet?

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    1. Camp No No
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      When he tackled it from Cillessen's hands.

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      1. Wilshere Knowledge
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        😆

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  20. The Missing Link
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    Wijnaldum with his first rb point 😀

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    1. Camp No No
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      The greatest DM of all history.

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    2. Mr Sarcastic
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      Tied with messi then.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Tied with Luiz, too. 😉

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  21. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Maxiiiiiiii

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  22. EmreCan Hustle
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    Maxi Rodriguez 😯

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  23. JJO
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    Vlaar points?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      Ronstrous

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    2. JJO
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      11

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  24. Camp No No
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    What!? Messi is on field!!!

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    1. Camp No No
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      Nice dribble by Aguero there.

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  25. Bøwstring The Carp
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    C'mon Messi we all know you're just biding your time here....

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    1. Bubz
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      He's having a very poor game. Can't even string a pass together.

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
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        Totally agree, passing has been shocking

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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          not as bad as brazils last night

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  26. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Maradonna, he isn't

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    1. I.A.P
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      About 15 stone off difference

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  27. HuttonDressedasLahm
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    Messi's passing has been appalling!

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    1. Camp No No
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      To be fair, he has about no one to pass to from the moment he wants to pass it forward. Those Argentinian forwards are well marked by the Dutch.

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  28. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    oooo cant use krul now if it goes to penos

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  29. VougieDipond
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    Real Madrid pay 25 million euros for Kroos. Liverpool pay 25 million quid for Lallana. Puts things into perspective

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
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      Wages and club status are probably the key factor though

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    2. Declan
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      Herrera 😯

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  30. Mr Sarcastic
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    If this goes to penalties LVG is either
    Genius or Idiot who thinks he's genius.
    And all this because of that one subtitution.

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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      hell put wijnaldum in goal

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    2. Piggs Boson
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      I think he's done a lot in his career to prove he's a clever man. Genius is a term thrown around lightly though.

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
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        Of course he is, meant papers & social media...

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