Dugout Discussion

Dugout Discussion – England vs Iceland

England and Iceland go head-to-head at 8pm as the Euro 2016 Round of 16 comes to an end.

Both sides were runners-up in their respective groups on the back of a win and two draws apiece, though there’s no question that the underlying stats are in favour of the Three Lions.

Given that Iceland have averaged just 28.3% possession so far, it’s fair to say that their opponents will be expected to dominate proceedings as the Scandinavians sit deep. As we saw against Slovakia, though, Roy Hodson’s side have toiled to break down obstinate opponents – they registered 29 unsuccessful attempts in their goalless draw against Slovakia.

England produced almost three times the number of attempts on goal (64 to 23) than their opponents over the group stages, though despite a wealth of options in the final third, currently lack a cutting edge and have scored just three times so far.

Iceland have found the net on more occasions (four) but given they’ve managed just nine shots on target, it remains to be seen if they can maintain a lofty 17.4% goal conversion rate – the highest in the tournament.

At the back, England again have reason for optimism. Hodgson’s men allowed a single big chance against in the group stages – less than any other side – and conceded just 11 efforts inside the box.

Iceland, on the other hand, have afforded the opposition 25 efforts in the penalty area, which bodes well for the Three Lions’ chances of grabbing the win that would see them square up to tournament favourites France in the quarter-final stage next time out.

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  1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Then again, the english do love a good moan and this is the mother of all moans.

  2. Fergietime
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Shearer wants the job

  3. Däzzy
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Any other Irishmen thinking if only we had the chance to play Iceland in a euro quarter-final

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      🙂

    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Oh yeah, what a game that would've been in all fairness! 🙂

    3. HVT
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      🙁

    4. Your Man With The Hair
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Would ye shtap!

    5. Fergietime
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      And have the world support Iceland instead of us? 🙂

  4. ..RL..
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    GW1 Payet
    GW2 Payet
    GW3 Ronaldo
    GW4 Dier
    All good work wasted. 20 points lead in the ML cut short to 2.

  5. raff97
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Neuer - Henessy
    Hector - Rami* - Dier* - Vermaelan* - Meunier
    KdB - Payet - Perisic* - Ramsey - Kroos
    Ronaldo - Gomez - Milik
    0.9ITB

    I need to generate another 0.9 from the defense to upgrade Perisic to Hazard. Thinking Rami, Dier, Verm -> Giaccerini, Guerrero, 5.0.

    Which 5.0? Thinking of either Denayar, Mangala or wait til deadline and choose a Potuguese one whos starting

  6. TheHungryMøn ⭐
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    I just came here to say: The pathetic-ness of this England team is beyond all imagination. Rooney is absolutely terrible and should not be playing. Hodgson has absolutely no idea, putting Rashford on in the 87th minute. Sterling being on the pitch AT ALL.

    I am also particularly bitter because I knew England sucked so I put 2 bets on the game to end a draw on ( quite spectacular) odds of 4.50.

    1. Odikostar
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Rooney has to go for this team to change

      1. POKE JOHN BALLS THE SECOND
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Word!

  7. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 11 months ago

    Nothing worse than some of these ex England managers and players of yesteryear slagging off the current bunch.

    Here's the truth for the likes of Hoddle, Rio, Crouch and co....YOU WERE JUST AS PIGGIN RUBBISH AT INTERNATIOMAL LEVEL !!

    I remember it all too well....

    1. Camp No No
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      😆

      Too right!

    2. KingNidge
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      The last world cup and these euros has set a whole new low in terms of performance at international level tbf Wakey...

      1. Leaf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Capello days were about the worst I've seen

        1. KingNidge
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Yep 2010 WC was pretty atrocious

      2. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        We "invented" (?) the damned game and yet we haven't won anything since 1966...and the worse news is we never won anything before that either.

        1966 did us no favours really as it just helped persuade us that we sit at the top table of football. We won that trophy at a time when the home nation was damned near a running certainty to either win it or come runner up in their own tournament...such was the massive advantage of home tournaments back then.

        We really need a reality check.

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          The home advantage in that England home tournament in particular. Incredible referee advantage!

          1. Dr Dream
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            7/11 of the first world cups were either won by the host nation or runners up.

    3. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Well said

    4. Belli2007
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Not quite as rubbish, that was the worst performance I think I have ever seen from England....

      1. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        By a long way

        1. Belli2007
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          I said before the tournament that I wouldn't mind them going out as long as they did it with a bit of fight and had a go....

          The FA should make them pay for there own way home and pay the fans back that travelled to watch that.

          The shiny spec in that pile of dung is that Hodgson is gone. Please, just someone that has some vision and conviction...

    5. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      At least crouch did this...
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFQxqysGaA

    6. Jay_
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Well said Wakey

        1. Dr Dream
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          I don't know what a panel of experts consists of in places like Germany or Spain...but I bet their CV's are considerably better than our panel of critics

          1. Belli2007
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Probably consists of People that have one something!!.

      1. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Posted by Liverpool fan. Thanks God they gave a great goalkeeper to the England. Oh wait...

    7. tm245
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Im reading page after page and I have to say, maybe the talent just isn't there. How many England internationals would you place among the elite players in the PL? In the top 25 or 30?

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        How many Iceland players would you place there, though?

          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Ditto Russia and Slovakia

        1. tm245
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          The only one who might be considered knows better than to act like he is, however.

      2. Fifa las vegas
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Most of those English fellas wouldn't have a look in with the Irish first 11 😉

        1. Belli2007
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Nor Wales as per Gareth Bale!!!

        1. tm245
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Seems that way. Look below, not many of the 23 would be considered among the best in their clubs. They need to accept that and play like a smaller team in order to get anywhere, maybe.

      3. tm245
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Elite Spurs -- Kane
        Elite Liverpool -- Sturridge
        Elite Arsenal
        Elite United -- Smalling?
        Elite City
        Elite Chelsea
        Elite Leicester -- Vardy?

        Others?

        1. Dušan Citizen
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          One legendary guy had great interview when asked about top class in England national team. He said that only Hart is top class. And he really is the only one top class player there. Everybody make mistakes.

      4. Father Demo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        England has a great team but they are all individual stars. No idea how to play off one another. Also, where was the veteran leadership to spur them on? They fielded a very young team with no one but Rooney capable of calling anyone out.

    8. Fergietime
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Who would be your dream full backs for the euros? (competition I'm entering)

      1. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Hector is the obvious one. Guerreiro has played really well imo. Vertonghen has surprised me as a full back as well.

        1. Fergietime
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Thomas Meunier?

    9. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Rami + DDG + Dier + Alli + Perisic + Rakitic = 6 players out. Since I've got no WC i'm in a hell of a mess. Thinking of keeping Rami and DDG (have Henn playing) and avoid hits. How does that sound?

      1. Belli2007
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Rami at least will come back assuming the French can do what we couldn't.

    10. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Surprised dele alli isn't getting more criticism. He's been very poor imo

      1. Pirlø's Pen
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        He has been poor. But he was also thrown right in at the deep end, he is hugely inexperienced.

        1. Däzzy
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Fair point, couldn't the same be said about Kane and sterling though?

          1. Pirlø's Pen
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Dele was playing league 1 last season
            Kane broke through last season as a top goal scorer &
            Sterling was transferred for 49mil last season

            1. Däzzy
              • 8 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              I Suppose you're on to something there.
              Just think Kane and sterling are being criticised too much while hardly any1 has seemed to have mentioned dele alli.

      2. KingNidge
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        They all have been but he's still a kid with potentially a great future ahead of him

      3. Father Demo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        He's good, just playing with a squad of "all stars" that don't know how to play as a team.

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        tbf everyone around him was cack and the number of times he was forced to run into the box as Kane and Sturridge were MIA ball hunting was so frustrating. He was set up to look bad by a number of factors so I'm not going to lay into him for other people leaving him high and dry, especially at such a young age.

        1. Däzzy
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Didn't get enough of those long balls over the top for him either tbf

    11. Pirlø's Pen
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Price changes tonight?
      If so who do we think will rise?

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        I don't think there are any

    12. JÆKS ⭐
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Pick 2 out of these:

      A) Griezman
      B) Muller
      C) Ronaldo
      D) Bale

      And 1 out of these:

      I) Gomez
      II) Giroud

      1. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        A and C, 1

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers!

      2. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Wildcard activated?

        Tough. Ronaldo, Bale, Gomez for me, maybe. But Griezmann could actually be just that kind of cunning little forward scoring a header in middle of Iceland's giant defenders.

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Haha cheers!

          Well the game is still updating but just to have something in mind already 😀

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Griezmann, Giroud and then Bale or Ronaldo according to taste.

          • 10 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          actually, C, D, Giroud.

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers! Don't fancy Germany to score any?

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Watch the highlights from today's early game. It's going to take something special to put goals past Italy. If they shut down Kroos like they shut down Busi, then Germany are in trouble.

            1. Dr Dream
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Agreed. I think the Germans are gonna have their work cut out.

            2. JÆKS ⭐
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Hmm Morata could have scored quite easily there. Gomez could head it in! 😀

                • 10 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                Oh goodness yeah that was a big chance but outside of that Italy contained Spain really well.

      3. Dušan Citizen
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        c, d

        II

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers!

      4. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        AC, II (go with I if you don't want a double up on France) 🙂

        1. JÆKS ⭐
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers!

    13. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      I think England should start their own Commonwealth Footie Tournament with Australia, New Zeeland, Scot... scratch that and Noth... ummm.

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Canada and Hong Kong?

    14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      is guerreiro injured or is the flag from last week?

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Someone said that he didn't train today

      1. Father Demo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Here here. I took a look at total population vs the states. Iceland ranked between Corpus Cristi in Texas and Santa Ana, CA.

    15. Däzzy
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Remember when Roy Hogson led Fulham all the way to the euros league final

      1. Belli2007
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        No disrespect to Fulham, but no one will remember that now, they will just remember this as England's most embarrassing defeat.

        1. Father Demo
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Disagree. He's an older guy, people will remember him for that face more than anything. Seems like a good person. He did the right thing though, England clearly needs a new direction.

          1. Belli2007
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            I do agree that he did the right thing.

      2. Däzzy
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        *europa league final

    16. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Down by 60 to 219. I guess not too bad for having 1 point less than yesterday

      1. VS10_
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        27 to 58. -3 today, was expecting much worse.

      2. milanista10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        How far are you from top? Think it's too close 🙂

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          219 now.

          I was 153 yester day.

          I have 253 points

          1. milanista10
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Ok so 23 points away from 1st.. I was 19 points away after group stages and now its only 1.. You still can make it mate 🙂

    17. milanista10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      #2 overall .. This is becoming serious 🙂

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Well done!

        1. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks Cheese 🙂

      2. Sauzée
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        #9 here.. I am coming for you 😉

        1. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          I'm accepting the challenge Sauzee 🙂

          1. Sauzée
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Good luck man 🙂

            1. milanista10
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Same to you 🙂

      3. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Great stuff!

        1. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks TM 🙂

      4. Fifa las vegas
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Wow, that's for sure, well played!

        1. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks my friend.. Let's see what happens in the QF 🙂

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Well done, keep going!

        1. milanista10
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Thank you Balders! How is your team doing?

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Woeful, I missed the deadline for MD3, stuck in an airport. I didn't get to WC and bring Ronnie in and got 34 points that gameweek. 😳

            My aim is to maybe crack 10k by the end of it all now.

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              When do we start Route 66 again?

                • 10 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                Once this has all blown over 🙂

            2. milanista10
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Oops that's harsh! Hopefully you will get what you aim for 🙂

                • 10 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                Thanks man, and you too - that adidas merch set has your name on it right now!

    18. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Saw earlier Ray Wilkins saying I would give Hoddle the job again. No Ray no. Time to give a young enthusiastic manager a go instead of an old dinosaur. Eddie Howe for me

        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        why would Howe take the FA over a juicy Premier League contract?

        1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          The pride of leading ones country, but then again after all the disappointment with England why would anyone want the job

            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Ha, eff that! Do what's best for yourself and your career. And the England national team ain't that for somebody with a bright top tier future ahead of them.

    19. VS10_
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      No price changes.

    20. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Where do we sign the petition for a 2nd referendum and a rematch with Iceland ?

    21. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      RP. Help me to solve this one - Do I need to take a hit? Rami + DDG + Dier + Alli + Perisic + Rakitic = 6 players out. Since I've got no WC i'm in a hell of a mess.
      Thinking of keeping Rami and DDG (have Henn playing) and transfer out the other four players.
      What would you do?

    22. Slam
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Any Belgians around?
      Anyone know if Martens is likely to start vs Wales?

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Played terrible vs Hungary. Carrasco was carrying a knock and looked much better when he played.

      2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        I would stay clear even if he does start will likely make way early

      3. Slam
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks both

    23. RoyaleBlue
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      The app when I go on the transfer page is saying 0 transfers made 16 points deducted ? I've made no transfers is this just a glitch ?

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        No. Unfortunately, that point deduction happened and cannot be retracted.

        1. RoyaleBlue
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          :'(

          1. Garfield1001
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Says same for me

      2. samaael
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Says same for me

        1. RoyaleBlue
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Good good, at least if I'm losing points we all are 😉

    24. I Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Is Guerreiro fit?

      1. RoyaleBlue
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        3/10 would not bang

    25. Pirlø's Pen
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone have any insight into whether it'll be Umtiti or Mangala to replace Rami? Cheers.

      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Mangala I would have thought

    26. Dušan Citizen
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      Anyone getting Mangala?

      He is the only one I can afford.

      Doing DDG, Rami, Cahill, Perisic and Ramsey to Buffon, Mangala, Guerreiro, Hazard and Blasczykowski for -4.

      1. I Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        I wouldn't unless you still have your WC. He could be straight back out of the team after Rami serves his ban.

      2. Hurricane Gilbert
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        I think it's risky because he might only play one game. I have 6 players out, therefore I think I'll have to keep Rami...

    27. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 11 months ago

      I don't think there have been any price rises. So looks like we were correct on that one

      1. Father Demo
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 11 months ago

        Also haven't seen any changes. Maybe tomorrow?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Make those transfers early 😆
          Shouldn't be any tbh.

        2. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 11 months ago

          Nah. It would have been done already if it was going to happen.

          The rules did suggest this was the case but you never know

          1. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 11 months ago

            Unless they want to add the KDB assist first?

            1. Cheeseoid
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 11 months ago

              Obviously

              1. HVT
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 11 months ago

                Breaking:
                McDonalds refusing to give out high chairs for infants as they feel they are such good dribblers that they don't need any assistance.