Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Pre-Season

Liverpool impress yet again, although Daniel Sturridge picks up another injury, while Javier Hernandez makes his debut for ten-man West Ham.

Burnley, Huddersfield, West Brom and Brighton all draw, Joselu scores another brace but Stoke City lose and Leicester City’s dismal summer goes on.

Here are the notes from a busy Tuesday.

Bayern Munich 0 Liverpool 3

Liverpool’s impressive pre-season continued apace with a fine win over Bayern in which Daniel Sturridge came off the bench, scored and then went off injured all in the space of a busy 20 minutes.

The England international had just chipped in the Reds’ third goal, from a Ben Woodburn through ball, when he pulled up with a thigh issue and was substituted by coach Jurgen Klopp, who could only state post-match that ‘I hope this is just a small injury’.

Sadio Mane and the in-form Mohamed Salah also scored, with assists coming from Roberto Firmino and Alberto Moreno, to earn Liverpool an Audi Cup final against Atletico Madrid this evening.

There has been much Fantasy fretting over who can nail down a place in the Reds’ highly competitive midfield, but, based on pre-season, Mane and Salah look almost untouchable given their threat in the final third.

It was certainly instructive that Klopp, while talking about one of them, referenced the other as well.

“I think Mo (Salah) has been very good ever since he was at Basel. This year, we could get him. He’s a really great player for us. We knew Mane was the main player for tempo, we have a lot of tempo, a lot of fine creative players, but not in the same kind of rhythm. There are a few younger players, so I think it was sensible to get him and a very good thing.”

Another who looks assured of a starting berth is, of course, Philippe Coutinho. The Brazilian, who played the full 90 minutes, started in a slightly deeper role before moving out wide.

“He began in the centre and then he switched to the left side because he is good at that, and then we thought we’d do both things and he played very well.”

Coutinho (30.3%) and Salah (16.9%) are currently the two most popular Liverpool picks in Fantasy Premier League, with Mane’s growing ownership base now up to 7.4%.

Sandwiching that trio is striker Roberto Firmino (16.2%).

The Brazilian has had a steady pre-season, providing three assists. But he is yet to score, which will be a cause for concern as Firmino’s price – 8.5 in FPL, 11.6m in the Sky game – puts him in a crowded bracket that includes the likes of Jermain Defoe, Christian Benteke and West Ham’s new signing Javier Hernandez

Liverpool’s opening schedule involves a mix of the tough – Arsenal and both Manchester clubs – and the rather more inviting – Watford and Newcastle away, Crystal Palace and Burnley at Anfield – over the first eight Gameweeks.

The jury remains out on both the fixtures and the value of owning Firmino in his current form and at his current price.

Amid all the talk of who, if any, to pick from the Reds’ attacking riches, their backline has rather slipped under the radar.

Loris Karius returned from injury to take over in goal and help Liverpool to their third clean sheet in five summer matches, while the impressive Trent Alexander Arnold deputised for Nathaniel Clyne, who continues to be sidelined by a muscle issue.

Should the young right-back cement his place for the start of the season, he would represent an initial bargain route – 4.5 in FPL, 6.8m in Sky – into an improving defence.

Remarkably, even Moreno impressed on the opposite flank, but competition at left-back is considerably more intense. New signing Andrew Robertson was an unused substitute in Munich, while James Milner has returned to training following a recent thigh problem.

Liverpool remain unbeaten in pre-season and their side is starting to take shape.

Tonight’s match with Madrid is likely to involve a change in much of the personnel, but Saturday’s final run-out of the summer, against Athletic Bilbao, should give us very strong pointers as to the XI who will kick off their domestic campaign away at Watford.

Liverpool XI: Karius; Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Matip (Klavan 67), Moreno; Henderson (Grujic 67), Can (Lallana 46); Salah (Sturridge 67 (Solanke 87)), Coutinho, Mane (Wijnaldum 46); Firmino (Kent 67).

Altona 93 3 West Ham United 3

Javier Hernandez was given his first minutes for his new club as ten-man West Ham salvaged a draw against their German fourth division opponents.

The Mexican striker came on for the last 20 minutes and looked lively. Fellow new boy Pablo Zabaleta started the match, but Joe Hart was an unused sub.

Slaven Bilic’s side drew the hard way, coming from behind three times and playing the entire second-half a man down after skipper Winston Reid was sent off for dissent.

Reid returned from injury for his first pre-season appearance and had earlier set up Toni Martinez for the Hammers’ first goal. Andre Ayew was also on the scoresheet before a late own goal, following a Nathan Holland shot, spared West Ham’s blushes.

The Hammers were without Manuel Lanzini and skipper Mark Noble with injuries, while James Collins also missed out with a knock.

Manchester City are their final pre-season opponents on Friday before they travel to Old Trafford for the season opener.

West Ham XI: Adrian; Zabaleta (Byram 57), Reid , Ogbonna (Rice 57), Cresswell (Masuaku 46); Obiang, Fernandes; Arnautovic (Holland 67), Snodgrass (Fonte 46), Ayew (Makasi 70); Martinez (Chicharito 70).

Burnley 2 Celta Vigo 2

Robbie Brady hit his third goal of the summer as Burnley managed a creditable draw against tough La Liga opposition.

Sean Dyche again utilised a 4-5-1 formation, with Steven Defour and Jack Cork in the double pivot, in an attempt to address possession issues that were all too clear last season – only two teams saw less of the ball than Burnley, who managed an average of just 39.3% possession in 2016/17.

The Clarets were certainly rather more cultured against their Spanish opponents and Brady hit a fine goal as a result, ending a flowing move by picking out the top corner from a Jeff Hendrick lay-off.

Brady then returned the favour when his set-piece broke kindly for Hendrick to smash home from close range.

Burnley have a tough start to the season, and only two players – both at the back – enjoy more than 10% ownership in FPL.

Brady (0.4%) has some form, and set-piece duties, to offer, but remains a punt at best.

There is still some doubt on Dyche’s preferred centre-back pairing following the departure of Michael Keane to Everton. Ben Mee and James Tarkowski would appear to be in the boxseat, although the Clarets’ final friendly with Hannover 96 on Saturday will tell us more.

Burnley XI: Pope; Lowton (Bardsley 46), Long (Tarkowski 82), Taylor, Ward (Mee 46); Brady (Gray 88), Defour, Cork (Arfield 65), Hendrick (Barnes 65), Gudmundsson; Vokes (Walters 75).

Stuttgart 3 Huddersfield Town 3

Defender and skipper Tommy Smith played his first minutes of pre-season for Huddersfield after recovering from the fracture he suffered in the Championship play-off final win over Reading.

Aaron Mooy and Michael Hefele also made their first summer starts for the Terriers, the latter after finally overcoming an Achilles injury.

Huddersfield came from 3-1 down to grab a draw, with goals from Rajiv van La Parra, Collin Quaner and Sean Scannell. Joe Lolley, Van La Parra and Quaner provided assists.

Coach David Wagner would have welcomed the return of more key players, but he was without Jonathan Hogg (ankle), Martin Cranie (hip) and Christopher Schindler (illness), although the trio all travelled with the squad to Austria.

Huddersfield Town XI First half: Lössl, Löwe, Hefele, Zanka, Smith; Mooy, Williams; Ince, Palmer, Kachunga; Mounié.

Huddersfield XI Second half: Coleman; Malone, Hudson, Zanka (Scannell 74), Cavaré; Billing, Whitehead; van La Parra, Lolley, Quaner; Depoitre.

Burton Albion 2 Leicester City 1

It’s only pre-season, but Leicester City’s parlous form is becoming a bit of an issue.

The Foxes have drawn one and lost two of their last three matches, scoring just twice – and all against lower league opposition.

Craig Shakespeare went with a 4-3-3 formation to try and address his side’s problems, with Riyad Mahrez and Ahmed Musa up in support of Leonardo Ulloa up front.

But there were few positives to be had, although Harry Maguire scored his first goal for the club when he converted a Yohan Benalouane back-post header after a scramble in the box, while Demarai Gray again caught the eye when he replaced Mahrez in the second half.

New signing Eldin Jakupovic played the first half of an encounter in which Leicester’s frustrations were encapsulated by Benalouane’s awful lunge on Stephen Warnock late in the match. Shakespeare immediately subbed the defender off and didn’t mince his words post-match.

“It was reckless, would have been a red card. My decision was to take him off, sit him down and show him because he has got to learn from that. If he doesn’t, he won’t be involved.”

Leicester City XI: Jakupovic (Hamer 46); Amartey, Morgan (Maguire 46), Benalouane (Johnson 77), Chilwell; Iborra, James (Ndidi 60), King (Ndukwu 85); Mahrez (Gray 59), Ulloa, Musa.

St Pauli 4 Stoke City 2

Mark Hughes again rolled out a three at the back, but tweaked his formation to play two strikers in a high-scoring defeat in Germany.

Peter Crouch was fielded alongside Joselu up front, and the latter bagged another brace to make it four goals in his last two outings for the Potters.

The striker has not yet been added to the FPL game, but if he continues his recent fine form that will surely be corrected soon. It remains to be seen if his price is inflated by this recent scoring run.

Mame Diouf set up both goals, with the first arriving after Joselu converted his own rebound off the post.

In an experimental line-up, Diouf and Josh Tymon started as wing-backs, though Hughes switched to a back four for the second-half. Tymon departed with a foot injury after the interval and is due to have scans.

Charlie Adam wore the captain’s armband and played next to Giannelli Imbula in the middle, while Bojan was used as a number 10 behind the two strikers.

Stoke XI: Grant; Souttar (Edwards 46), Wollscheid, Muniesa; Diouf (Verlinden 89), Tymon (Sweeney 57), Adam, Imbula; Bojan (Ramadan 68); Joselu, Crouch.

Port Vale 1 West Bromwich Albion 1

Eight senior players West Brom were missing for the trip to the Potteries, including Matt Phillips, who is nursing a hamstring problem.

Salomon Rondon and Craig Dawson were absent, with the striker rested and Dawson left out as a precaution, with head coach Tony Pulis avoiding any risks.

“Craig’s got a little niggle, again it’s just one of them we don’t want to take a chance with.”

That meant Hal Robson-Kanu and young full-back Kane Wilson earned pitch-time, while Jake Livermore, Chris Brunt, James McClean, James Morrison and Gareth McAuley all missed out with injuries of varying severity.

Robson-Kanu scored Albion’s goal after capitalising on a defensive error, while striker Jay Rodriguez – a relatively popular Baggies pick with 3.3% FPL ownership – was used as part of a five-man midfield.

West Brom XI: Foster (Myhill 46); Nyom (Melbourne 62), Evans (O’Shea 47), Hegazi (Howkins 47), Wilson; Leko, Yacob (Harper 47), Field, Chadli (Tulloch 46), Rodriguez (Roberts 47); Robson-Kanu (Edwards 62).

Girona 0 Brighton and Hove Albion 0

Manager Chris Hughton declared himself happy with the performance as Brighton practised playing against a side who dominated possession – a state of affairs the Seagulls are likely to be well used to by season’s end.

“It’s the sort of style that we’re going to come up against and we’ll play teams that are going to have a lot more possession than us. What we’ve got to be able to do is stick in there, try to keep some clean sheets and put in good enough performances to win games.”

And the Brighton boss even found the time to back the actions of veteran striker Glenn Murray, who was sent off for two bookable offences despite only joining the action late on, declaring that he ‘didn’t see anything wrong’ with the challenge that led to the dismissal following an earlier card for dissent.

Hughton also confirmed that Murray will not miss a match for his indiscretion.

“I’ve been told by the referee we will be fine, because it’s two yellows.”

Brighton XI: Ryan (Maenpaa 73); Rosenior (Goldson 73), Dunk (Huenemeier 73), Duffy, Bong (Suttner 73); Brown (LuaLua 81), Stephens (Bruno 46), Kayal, Murphy (March 77), Gross (Skalak 77); Hemed (Murray 73).

1,806 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Pringle
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I think this will be my team given that Cedric and Austin seem reasonably nailed. What do you think?

    Foster Elliot
    Cedric Yoshida Daniels Lascelles Hunemeier
    KDB Salah Willian Zaha Carroll
    Kane Lukaku Austin

    1. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      cedric may no start, austin battle over gabi for striker slot.

      this is how i think

  2. LangerznMash
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone gambling on Phil Jones, John Stones or Alexander-Arnold as a cheap way in to Man Utd, Man City & Liverpool defence?

    1. Over Midwicket
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Why would you want any way into the pool defence?

      1. Rains of Castamere
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        What if Milner moves to RB and Robertson plays LB?

        1. Rains of Castamere
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Edit, meant to reply to the comment below.

    2. johnnybeefcake
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I have gone with AA as Clyne is apparently doubtful for GW1

    3. Simon Says...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Jones a big punt. He's banned from the Super Cup game (as is Bailly), which means Smalling and Lindelof will start. Can see one of those taking the shirt to play alongside Bailly in first game of the season. I rate Jones, but he's a huge risk and obviously loves an injury.

      Stones, less of a punt. It's between him and Otamendi to start alongside Kompany I guess. Think Pep will give him the chance, but I see City conceding a boatload.

      AA could be a good short term punt, but he's a transfer waiting to happen. And that may be in GW2 for all we know.

      Tough to see any of them (maybe Stones apart) as good options.

    4. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      If you choose Coutinho in your draft and he gets sold do you automatically get priority for the first waiver?

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        RF

  3. Shivakamini
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RTM please:
    Foster
    Alonso / Cédric / Trippier
    Pogba / Kevin De Bruyne / Eriksen / Coutinho
    Austin / Lukaku / Jay Rodriguez

    Thanks!

    1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Is Rodriguez worth the third striker spot? Has he been good pre season?

      1. Shivakamini
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Good point.Robson-Kanu seems better and is cheapear.

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      cedric > yoshids

      1. Shivakamini
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks!

    3. Shivakamini
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Updated it to the following (love Ederson, wanted to have him on the team!)

      Ederson
      Alonso / Yoshida / Trippier
      Pogba / Kevin De Bruyne / Eriksen / Coutinho
      Austin / Lukaku / Robson-Kanu

  4. @chapellefpl OR 577TH
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Straight shoot out. Jesus or Morata.

    1. Cesc's old mullet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Jesus, without a doubt

    2. Del Monte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Jesus, Morata won't start for 3 weeks.

    3. Jonesfromthere
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      jesus and very easily.

    4. Simon Says...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Jesus. Shown he scores goals in the league, that City team is stacked with attacking potential, and he appears to have the starting spot. Could be top scorer if fit all season.

      Morata is new to the league and apparently out of shape a bit. Can see him and Chelsea taking a bit of time getting used to each other.

      Obviously Morata may suit the league and his side perfectly and score 30, but right now Jesus is a much stronger and safer pick.

    5. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      jesus

  5. Cesc's old mullet
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I'd be curious to see some of the teams of people who have drafted already, just to know what kind of lineup I could achieve when my draft takes place next Monday.

    It would also be interesting to know how many teams are in your draft league, and - if it's a league with people you know - what kind of FPL players they are (casuals or knowledgeable players).

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Really depends on how many are in your draft. If you have 10 people, everyone will have a solid team. If you have 20 people, you will have one heavy hitter (max) and the rest will be players like Ritchie and Fraser.

  6. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    If Chelsea didn't sell them.....

    -----Salah-----De Bruyne-----Hazard-----

    --------------------Lukaku----------------------

    Best attack in the league?

    1. Cesc's old mullet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      wow

    2. unlethal
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Don't think they'd be the players they are now if Chelsea hadn't sold them

      1. Royal5
        • 12 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        This. Chelsea would've ruined them.

    3. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      still can't get overly excited by lukaku

      1. emyoueffsee
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Or Salah yet.

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          ??

    4. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Salah would have been perfect for Willian/Pedro's role; we'd have depth with Willian/Pedro as LW/RW.

      Salah is perfect for Liverpool, though.

    5. sindriseagal
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Robben on the bench?

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I miss Robben so much

        ... and Damien Duff.

        1. Royal5
          • 12 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          And Mateja Kezman

    6. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 13 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      They still won the league without them ?

    7. salazar1963
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Would they all gel?

    8. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      When did Hazard get sold?

    9. Coldplay
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Remove Salah and put Mertens (who's better anyway) and you have the Belgian attack. They look good on paper, but have been hardly breaking any records.

  7. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on this side please? Id like to know what you would do different

    Ddg
    Cedric Alonso Francis
    Salah Zaha KDB Fraser
    Lukaku Abraham Kane

    Elliot Carroll Suttner Mariappa

    1. Cesc's old mullet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Not too sure about Cedric, Fraser, and Abraham's game time, but other than that looks solid.

  8. SilverSpurs
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    My current team:
    Foster
    Trippier, Bailly, Cedric
    Ramsey, Alli, Redmond, Pogba
    Gayle, Lukaku, Kane

    subs: Elliot, Carroll, Yedlin, Suttner

    Thoughts?

    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Pretty good imo

    2. Chelseaaaa
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Good, but you only need 1 lethal forward (I'd say get rid of Kane for Josh King) and use for better defender than Bailly, and a better midfield than Ramsey.
      Also try put in Zaha for Redmond

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I wouldn't get Josh King. Not sure how/where he plays with Defoe in the mix.

        Bailly is still a fine choice for the United defense. Personally prefer DDG and a more attack minded/BPS-hoarding premium defender, but he's still a good choice.

    3. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Would prefer Myhill to Elliot as it's a safer pairing. Keep an eye on the Foster supposed injury, though.

      Redmknd hasn't got tons of pre-season minutes; might have a injury of sorts. Would get rid.

    4. SilverSpurs
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Will keep an eye on Redmond's and Foster's playing time.

      If I can free some funds I'd be keen on upgrading Bailly to Valencia.

      Don;t really want to buy WIllian as they have tough fixtures. It's not the right time for Chelsea players IMO. Same with Zaha. Two good fixtures and than he has a terrible run.

      Don't want DDG, I prefer cheaper goallies.

      Ramsey is due to nice Arsenal fixtures and his advanced role towards the end of last season

  9. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I've kept this team for more than a day now, so things feel like they're settling.

    DDG / Elliot
    Kompany / Tripper / Yoshida / Mee / Hegazi
    KDB / Salah / Zaha / Fraser / Carroll
    Kane / Lukaku / Ayew

    Questions:
    A) Kompany vs. Kolasinac
    B) Fraser vs. [Other 5.5M]
    C) Fraser vs. [Other 6.0M]; Ayew > 4.5M
    D) Hagazi vs. Suttner/Dunk/T-AA

    Cheers!

    1. Chelseaaaa
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Kolasinac, Ritchie/Phillips>Fraser coz they will get more game time, and Hagazi

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Kolasinac
      Fraser
      Ince
      hegazi

  10. Chelseaaaa
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    A) Tammy Abraham and Lukaku
    B) Dwight Gayle and Jesus

    Also

    Eriksen or Alli?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A and Eriksen

    2. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A
      Eriksen

    3. Rhodes your boat
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A and alli

    4. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A, Alli

  11. Scotty B
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Who had better fixtures early on Man United or Man City?

    1. Scotty B
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      *has

    2. Simon Says...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      United, just. But both are lovely.

    3. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Man utd

  12. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    My final finishes in the last 5 years listed. Am I due to win the whole thing this year?

    2012/13. Points- 2,251. Overall finish, 4355
    2013/14. Points- 2,196. Overfall finish, 304, 629
    2014/15. Points- 2,129. Overall finish, 33,594
    2015/16. Points- 2,223. Overall finish, 25,083
    2016/17. Points- 2,267. Overall finish, 22,101

    Basically, am I due to win the whole thing this year from these past numbers? or at least crack the top 1k. What say you?

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      i'd say you have found your level. you can now have your plateau and eat it

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Gateau way with you! 😉

    2. CostaCoffee
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      What is your logic?

    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I've run the numbers and I reckon you'll finish 167,339 this season.
      Mostly due to a bad TC pick and poor captain choices.

      1. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Not good, I was hoping for a better finish.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          😉

    4. kalmoffit
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Ive beaten you twice, and I aren't that good, no is my guess. And your points total must be wrong for last season.

      1. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        KALMOFFIT. No I am right about my final points total last season and finish, the computer doesn't lie. You say you've beaten me twice, which means you've lost to me three times, which makes me better init.

        1. kalmoffit
          • 10 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Sorry, you are right.

    5. Simon Says...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I see you trusting Morata and JWP too many times early on, and a late wildcard means you're playing catchup in autumn, you're rising in November on the back of a Sturridge & Rooney double punt, Xmas and January are fruitful if not bombastic, but a badly timed wildcard chip derails your February. Spring sprigs of promise ignited by a differential Triple Captain chip in April, but by then you're too far back. Final finish: 134,001

      1. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        To not break into the top 100k considering I've put about 100 hours of research in pre-season is soul destroying. I'm actually quite gutted with that finish.

        Can't blame anyone but myself for it.

        1. Simon Says...
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          My prediction model has a approximate range of 133,999 either way. So you could finish 2nd or 268,000th. I went for the middle.

          1. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
            • 6 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Sorry any way I cut it, I am going to be a loser, either the 1st loser which is a terrible position to be in, or a complete and utter loser.

            I'll focus on FM17 and leading Man Utd to their seventh consecutive champions league win.

            Peace.

    6. Teddy Steddingham
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Sorry to break this but, my highly skilled, statistics work (jotting some figures on a piece of paper and drawing a very rough graph) has predicted a fall of 331.515 places to 21769.49...

  13. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Great advice from Who Got The Assist...

    Finally, some advice for free… be wary of highly owned 4.0 defenders and 4.5 midfielders. At present, Angel Rangel is the highest owned 4.0 defender with an ownership of 20.8% and Ruben Loftus-Cheek is the highest owned 4.5 midfielder with an ownership of 15.3%. The position of these guys in their teams is nowhere near secure and, if they do not play, less involved managers will start selling early on, and all of a sudden you may have a 3.8 or 4.3 player on your bench who isn’t playing, and will be impossible to sell due to their lack of value.

    1. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You're not a virgin anymore, and this is common knowledge.

      1. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        lol but true

  14. emyoueffsee
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Foster
    Trippier, Bertrand, PVA,
    Salah, Zaha, KDB, Ramsey,
    Lukaku, Jesus, Gayle.

    Subs: Begovic,Carroll, Mee, Rangel

    What is right/wrong?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Anything ITB? Could use some spurs attack. Not a fan of PvA price

      1. emyoueffsee
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        I'm only starting with PVA as they have a favourable opening fixture and then I will swap for a Utd player. Hard for me to get a spurs player in attack. I was on the Kane train before 99.9% of players 3 seasons back too. Would prob have to play 4-4-2 to get Kane in.

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      pva > danilo / stones

      1. emyoueffsee
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Stones never scores or assists, Danilo will be out of the team quickly. Prefer PVA for opening fixture tbh. Thanks though.

  15. Kings of Lyon ★
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    If you choose Coutinho in your draft and he gets sold do you automatically get priority for the first waiver?

    1. Royal5
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      You automatically get Henderson.

      1. TheSteel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        NOOOO!!!!

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Don't think so KoL, I think you put in a request but the transfers will run in reverse order to the original draft order - that's my take on it.

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 13 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        So if youre first pick and have Coutinho in your team youre at a significant disadvantage?

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Yep, that's my take on it. But not everyone may make a transfer.

  16. Teddy Steddingham
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Just testing the waters with a RMT:

    Ryan / Maenpaa
    Bertrand / Kolasinac / Trippier / Ake / Lowe
    Puncheon / De Bruyne / Carroll / Salah / Gray
    Lukaku / Kane / Chicharito

    I have concerns but, am interested in other people's takes! Much appreciated!

  17. TheBusDriver
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is Mendy still injured? If so, when will he return?

  18. RomeluStormzy
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Why is everyone against Stones?

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      guess there is not enough confidence he would start in a back 4 over kompany and otamendi

    2. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      plus he likes to ruin clean sheets

    3. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      A lot on here started with him last season, when he was 5.0. Lets just say it didn't work out.

      1. Thinkering like a Boss
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        this

  19. PvA
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    I'll ask again now...

    Coutinho will _____

    A) leave
    B) stay

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      guessing now neymar looks done he'll leave. which is a shame, liverpool's cl title tilt rocked a bit

      1. PvA
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        A bit?

        A huge amount I think.

    2. VS10_
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Barca should go for Dembele.

      1. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        With the money from Neymar they could buy both.

        1. FPLtfs
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Sure, but Coutinho + Dembele < Neymar imo.

          1. VS10_
            • 8 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Dembele will be on Neymar's level in a couple of years.

            1. FPLtfs
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              He may well be, but by that time Neymar is Ballon D'or winner.

          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            Not much they can do if he's requested a transfer and PSG meet the buyout clause. All that's left is to use the money and re-strengthen.

            1. FPLtfs
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              This is true, my point is that he is hard to replace. The move could do him well though, being PSG's main man can make him world #1 quicker. The strength of the french league will be a factor ofc, but if they perform well in CL.. And he's so good.

              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                No doubt, he's one of the best, certainly a different level. Other talk of Griezmann (unlikely given Madrid's situation) or Dybala (who I think would be a cracking replacement).

                Yeah, I know the Barcelona faithful will say it has nothing to do with Messi and Neymar is just chasing money but I'm not as convinced. The wage is a big factor, without question, however it has long been my impression that Messi pulls the strings at Barcelona and likes to maintain his position as top dog. He certainly has precedent:

                "It started well but then Messi started to talk," Ibrahimovic claimed in his book, 'I Am Zlatan' in 2011. "He wanted to play in the middle, not on the wing, so the system changed from 4-3-3 to 4-5-1. I was sacrificed and no longer had the freedom on the pitch I need to succeed."

    3. johnnybeefcake
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I personally think he will stay, has been involved in Liverpool's pre-season and seems settled under Jurgen Klopp.

    4. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      B

  20. Doinkster
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    294694-74149

    please join my head to head game

    38 minuts...and 1 place to go

    only with 4 players

  21. Man Chest Hair United
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Is danillo likely to start the first few game weeks?

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      certainly first two yeah

    2. Thinkering like a Boss
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      pretty sure... i have him in my team

  22. Legomane
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Forster (Elliot)
    Kolasinac Trippier Bertrand Aké (Long)
    Alli Willian Zaha (Carroll Romeu)
    Lukaku Jesus Lacazette

    Against my better judgement..here's a 4-3-3 excluding Harry...thoughts?

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      8/10

  23. Gassemannen
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Please RMT:

    Foster/Heaton
    Trippier - Bailly - Bertrand - Dawson - Long
    KdB - Willian - Tadic - Chadli - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Austin

    Heavy West Brom and Soton as punts because of good fixtures.

  24. johnnybeefcake
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    RMT

    Foster

    Trippier Danilo Yoshida Alexander-Arnold

    Mane KDB Alli Milivojevic

    Kane Lukaku

  25. lewi_francis
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on this draft?

    Foster / Elliot
    Tripper / Yoshida / Ake / Dunk / Bailly
    Willian / KDB / Ince / Salah / Carroll
    Jesus / Lukaku / Gayle

    Please give me your advice? Thanks

  26. TheOrangeMan
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Remedies welcomed!

    Forster
    Cedric Tripper Dawson
    Alli KdB Pogba Phillip's
    Lukaku Morata Austin

    Hennessy T.Carroll Dunk Clark

  27. CostaCoffee
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Most nailed Newcastle defender?

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Dummet, Lascelles

      1. CostaCoffee
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers

  28. The Hindu Monkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    just realised that with Doo's cheeky rotating back 7 I can have a front 7 of

    KDB Salah Willian Ramsey (Carrol)
    Kane Lukaku King

    I'm tempted. Even if I'd like to know the rationale beyond Tompkins being first choice and the madness of Lowton over Mee...

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Who is the rotating back 7?

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      He is a better defender than the others, and much harder than Riedwald. 🙂

      Mee is the same price as Lowton. 😀

    3. Gooner Kebab
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Who are the rotating backs?

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        Doos will give you his list, I've swapped a couple around who I like for the same teams and had to sacrifice one to a 4m to get the front 7 in truth - but the other 4 rotate fine bar one fixture for first 6 and I'll have wildcarded by then 🙁

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          foster/fab
          mee tompkins yoshida dummet francis

          1. The Hindu Monkey
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            (in mine dummet is actually rangel and fab is elliot to save 0.5)

          2. Gooner Kebab
            • 11 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            lovely

    4. Hazz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Looks great. Not sure about King. What is that back 7 for reference?

    5. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Fabianski/Foster
      Yoshida, Tomkins, Francis, Dummett, Mee

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 10 months ago

        of course, it's a significant downgrade on my previous back 7 of

        de gea/elliot
        Bertrand Dawson Tripper (Mee, Rangel)

        just to... in essence, upgrade Phillips to Salah...

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          6 years, 10 months ago

          Bertrand may be a complete waste of 0.5. Dawson similar, and now injured. The best opening fixtures are Arsenal, not Spurs. Rangel will lose you value.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 10 months ago

            I would argue that F/F will score more than de Gea over the opening 7.

            1. The Hindu Monkey
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              6 years, 10 months ago

              you make your points well - although Dawson will be fine

              tripper is hard to let go though

              5.5 for a nailed on wing back in a very attacking team...

              (I'll replace Rangel with a lower ownership 4m before season starts)

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                6 years, 10 months ago

                Dawson will HAVE to be fine, and play through injury.

                There is also the problem of doubling on WBA ...

                1. The Hindu Monkey
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  6 years, 10 months ago

                  I've never started with anything but a cheap defence in 8 years but I just feel like this year that's where the immediate value is

                  If Phillips is fully fit I think I'll revert back with a couple of changes

                  Foster Elliot
                  Valencia Yoshida Tripper (Mee, Dummet)

                  I like that more in terms of a balance - Blind may save me a cool 1m as well if he's going to start first few games

                  I'm famously a very, very slow starter though. I've had one good month in 8 years and that was the time I finished top 2k, so it obviously helps!

  29. no1baj
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    My first time playing - any suggestions to improve my team?

    Hart (Hennessey)
    Mee, Milner, Francis (Lascelles,Duffy)
    Mane, Alli, KDB, Willian, Redmond
    Lukaku, Iheanacho (Abraham)

    1. Aguerrrooooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      Its lacking some Sanchez I believe

    2. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      I'd be wary of Nacho - but good bar that

  30. Benjo
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 10 months ago

    Salah and Ince vs Pogba and Willian? Cheers

    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      6 years, 10 months ago

      ince and mo fo sho