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Creative Ziyech can improve Chelsea attack and offer FPL value in 2020/21

Chelsea’s new signing Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) has the potential to be the most exciting Fantasy Premier League asset at Stamford Bridge this season.

The Moroccan Wizard arrives in London tasked with transforming the creative potential of Frank Lampard’s attack, offering excellent delivery from set-plays and frequent long-distance shots.

The fact that he has been priced cheaper than Christian Pulisic (£8.5m) and Timo Werner (£9.5m) could make Ziyech the key man for investment if he has the desired effect on Chelsea’s front-three.

The History and Statistics

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKeypasses/g
2013/14282467994.33.1
2014/1533289613163.62.7
2015/1633295317104.92.8
2016/172827649125.63.6
2017/183430439154.94.2
2018/1929241316135.33.7
2019/202116196124.23.7







Average29.43259411.312.434.693.4

Born in the Netherlands, Ziyech started his youth career at the Reaal Dronten and ASV Dronten academies before joining Heerenveen in 2007.

An Eredivisie debut came in 2012/13, before a first full campaign in 2013/14, in which he netted nine times over 28 league appearances.

Ziyech was picked up by Twente the following year for just €3.5m and went on to notch 13 goals and 16 assists in the 2014/15 campaign. A sign of things to come as he managed 17 goals and 10 assists in 2015/16.

Those impressive seasons earned Ziyech an €11m move to Ajax in August 2016. Interestingly, switching to the Dutch giants saw Ziyech’s goal output dip in his first season, with eight fewer (nine) strikes, despite shooting more often (5.6 shots per game vs 4.9).

It was this move that brought out the best in the Moroccan’s key attributes though: creativity. As you can see from the table above, every season he spent at Ajax boasted a better key passes per game statistic than any campaign at any previous club.

It was 2018/19 when Ziyech was thrust onto the global stage as he scored 16 goals and assisted a further 13 in 29 Eredivisie appearances as well as registering six attacking returns in 11 Champions League outings.

It was his European exploits that started to turn the heads of the continent’s biggest clubs, finishing the 2019/20 Champions League groups stages with more assists than any other player (four).

Unsurprisingly, Ziyech left Ajax for Chelsea having featured in the Eredivisie team of the year three times, stringing together consecutive appearances in 2017/18, 2018/19 and 2019/20. Eligible to play for either Netherlands or Morocco, he chose the latter, currently boasting 14 goals over 32 international matches. 

Comparison

The general consensus on new signings from foreign leagues is to wait for them to settle in before investing from a FPL standpoint. However, there have been players in the past like Mohamed Salah (£12.0m), Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m) and Hazard who hit the ground running from day one. Is Ziyech capable of emulating these Fantasy greats? Let’s take a look…

YearAppMinsGoalsAssistsShots/gameKeypasses/g
2015/16 (ROMA)3227391462.11.9
2016/1729248715112.62.3
2017/18 (LIV)342922321041.7
2018/193732622283.61.8
2019/2033288819103.91.8







Average332859.620.493.241.9

Prior to joining Liverpool, Salah managed 20 and 31 goal involvements with Roma. He averaged 2.4 shots/game and 2.1 key passes/game. Ziyech managed 24 and 29 goal involvements across his last two full seasons (2017/18 and 2018/19) and averaged 4.8 shots/game along with 3.9 key passes/game. 

The Egyptian upped his average shots/game to 3.83 per game with Liverpool and has been the player with the largest shot volume over the past three seasons. To give you an idea of how much Ziyech shoots, it is almost 30% more than Salah, although largely from outside the box. 

The Moroccan’s creative numbers are staggering too. To put it in perspective, Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m), the Premier League’s most creative player in 2019/20, averaged 3.9 key passes per game. The Belgian has averaged 3.2 key passes/game for his last three full seasons (2018/19 not considered due to injury). 

Ziyech averaged 3.86 key passes/game for Ajax over the past three seasons. That’s about 20% more than De Bruyne. While a move to a harder league could see a drop-off in his numbers, a 20% margin certainly looks big enough to ensure Ziyech can still impress in England, especially considering how well he has performed in the Premier League.

2019-20Mins per shotMins per shot in the boxMins per shot on targetMins per key pass
Tammy Abraham25.228.163.5105.8
Olivier Giroud25.629.452.6124.9
Mason Mount36.879.899.056.3
Christian Pulisic27.432.669.057.5
Timo Werner *22.828.443.953
Hakim Ziyech **18.255.852.220.8

As mentioned earlier, the Moroccan loves taking a shot. The majority of these efforts were from outside the box but it still makes him exciting and engaging to own from a FPL standpoint. As you can see, none of Chelsea’s 2020/21 key attackers unleashed a shot on goal as frequently as Ziyech last season, even Werner.

In terms of creativity, he is head and shoulders above any of his new team-mates, which bodes very well indeed. The frequency of his key passes should not only make Ziyech a potentially viable asset, it enhances the appeal of Pulisic and Werner, who are sure to fancy getting at the end of his signature crosses to the far post. 

The Prospects

Unlocking deep blocks was a problem for Chelsea last season, one that Ziyech can help solve. 82 assists in 165 matches in all competitions at Ajax, and an average of over 3.5 key passes per game for them, is nothing to be scoffed at, whatever your opinions might be about the competitiveness of the Dutch league. 

Lampard’s men were arguably too dependent on Willian for creativity in 2019/20. Mostly operating down the right flank, with very little creativity elsewhere in the team, the Brazilian’s work tended to define Chelsea’s attacking prospects. When he struggled, the team just could not break opponents down.

Furthermore, Chelsea fans voiced major complaints about Willian’s poor delivery from corners and free-kicks last season, which Ziyech is likely to take over (with the exception of penalties). The Moroccan is well-known as being one of the best strikers of a dead ball in Europe, so his presence is sure to improve Chelsea’s attacking prospects across the board.

With the Willian and Pedro departing, Ziyech looks locked in to fill the right-wing role, adding some fresh impetus to creativity from that side. His only real competition for a start in the front-three is Callum Hudson-Odoi (£6.0m), while Pulisic looks to have the left-hand side nailed down.

Encouragingly, Ziyech can also operate quite effectively as a number 10. That’s good news for Lampard who will arguably have more tactical options in terms of shape with Ziyech in the team – but also for the player himself. If he is struggling out wide in some games, he could find space to be effective by drifting into central pockets.

Another factor to consider with new players is how injury prone they are, how many games they have missed over the past few campaigns and whether these have been major injuries like an ACL or meniscus tear. Ziyech has played an average of 29 league games for the past seven seasons as well as featuring regularly in Europe which goes a long way to allaying any fitness fears.

Meanwhile, the fact he is 27 years of age means the players is more mature and developed than the rest of Chelsea’s young squad. The naivety of Lampard’s men was often cited as a reason for some disappointing results last season, so Ziyech is likely to be a key leader on the pitch in 2020/21.

There are some caveats though. Ziyech was allowed a huge amount of freedom to express himself with Ajax, often taking wasteful shots from range. As shared in the earlier table, even though he took a shot every 18.2 minutes, he only tested the keeper every 52.8 minutes. That roughly means only one of his three efforts was a shot on target, so while he might be an exciting player to own, prepare for some frustration. 

There is also of course the argument to be made about the Premier League being a much more daunting prospect than the Eredivisie but his performances against top sides in Europe do indicate this is a player of global pedigree. Many feared the same for Fernandes last year, but we all know how that turned out. 

Boasting an exciting mix of goal threat and creativity for a cheaper price than Pulisic and Werner, Ziyech is likely going to feature in my side for Gameweek 1.

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  1. Jay Jay Okocha
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A) Tierney + Armstrong
    B) Doherty + Soucek

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. SAY MY NAME
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      b

    3. Tony Moon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      b

    4. Bragazeti
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    5. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

  2. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best 4.0 Defender fodder?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Ferguson

  3. Somar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Where can I get the official FFS league codes? Both regular and member. Cheers

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      5u05vz and bottom right of members home page.

  4. Daddybot
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best 4.5 midfielder who will play?

    1. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Far too early to answer this.

      1. Daddybot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        True. Still a lot of over-thinking to do before season starts.

        1. Now I'm Panicking
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Fixtures this week will help a lot. Knowing the specifics around the 4.0 defs and 4.5 mid/atts that are likely to be starters is probably not something we are going to have a decent idea of until very close to when the season starts, despite a lot of people thinking they have ideas now around this.

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Reed (Fulham)

    3. pakornk
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Romeu?

  5. Gabbiadini
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy | Nyland
    TAA | Thomas | Ferguson | Branthwaite | Douglas
    KDB | Fernandes | Greenwood | Perez
    Werner | Martial | Ings

    Would like to find 0.5 to get Greenwood to Ziyech but not sure how? Also not sold on Perez... Who's the cheap midfield flyer this year?

    1. Gabbiadini
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood, Perez and Douglas
      to
      Ziyech, Wilson and Vinagre

      Would be an option?

    2. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Soucek 5m?

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think I am going to pick Armstrong 5.5.

  6. Ser Davos
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    a) Fernandes and a collection of 4.5 defenders

    b) Greenwood/Antonio and Robertson/VVD + Doherty

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. Ser Davos
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks, it's what I'm on

    2. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Cak Juris
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A, many good option for 4.5 attacking defenders (Vinagre, Dallas/Ayling)

    4. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B

  7. Manani
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    thoughts on this team?

    Ryan Button
    TAA 4x4.5
    Auba KDB Salah Foden Soucek
    Davis Mitrovic Jimenez

    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Anti United?

      1. Manani
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yes, I don't think they can keep up the form either

    2. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Dont fall into FFS trap Foden, there're still there Mahrez, Bilva and new Torres right mid

    3. Sanchit
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Auba to greenwood/Ziyech gives you 4 million to spend on defenders.

      Robertson+ Doherty+ Greenwood Vs
      Auba+Vinagre+Dallas.

      I personally think the former wins this hands down.

      Considering you'll anyway not captain Auba a lot. Salah and KDB are there for captaincy

  8. BNMC
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    No blanks GW1 anymore?

  9. Joyce1998
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    hows this looking for a draft??

    ryan
    taa, walker-peters, ake
    salah, kdb, bruno, saint maxim, hernandez
    werner, mitrovic

    subs- button, davies, taylor, ferguson

    1. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      No way to find the extra .5 and upgrade mitro to Antonio?

  10. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    How was this draft?

    Mc Carthy
    Taa,Lindelof,Coady,Pieters,Douglas
    Salah,Kdb,Auba,ASM,Soucek
    Martial,Mitro,Davies

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Decent attack, defence with Lindelof & Coady is a bit bland.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mc Carthy
        Taa,Lamptey,Coady,C.Taylor,Douglas
        Salah,Kdb,Auba,Rashford,Soucek
        Bamford,Mitro,Davies

        How was this?

  11. Nabs Kebabs
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Grealish seems to be an underrated pick

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Playing this year or an observation?

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Observation, but undecided on playing. Think I will end up playing but as more of a casual

    2. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nah,not even for last year price

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I take it you haven't watched him play much lol

        1. FFSbet.com
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          On 7M i havent yet

    3. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Will he be playing left wing again? Or are they likely to sign a winger?

      Seemed to have much more goal threat from there

  12. FFSbet.com
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A) TAA + Ziyech/Pulisic

    B) KDB + 4.5 def

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Depends on fixtures but on paper, A

    2. Nabs Kebabs
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Grealish

    3. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    4. Boberella
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd want TAA & KDB and build team round them

  13. Boberella
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thought s on better option here in a 4-4-2:
    A) Werner + Antonio +1.0m
    B) Jimi + Ings

    1. Soto Ayam
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      B is safe, but I like A, especially if that 1m can be put to good use

      1. Boberella
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A basically gives me Pope instead of a 4.5 GK

  14. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Set for now
    Mc Carthy,Martin
    Taa,Lamptey,,C.Taylor,Douglas,Ferguson
    Salah,Kdb,Auba,Bruno,Soucek
    Bamford,Mitro,Davies

    1. Bad Kompany
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’m not a fan of having 4 premiums. Rest of the team suffers too much.

      1. Chelsea91
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Made Some changes

        Mc Carthy,Martin
        Taa,Awb,C.Taylor,Dallas,Ferguson
        Salah,Kdb,Auba,ASM,Soucek
        Martial,Mitro,Davies

        How was this?

  15. Bad Kompany
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What burnley fullbacks are first choice?

    I saw that none played 2000 minutes last season but was it because they often rotate or was it due to injuries?

  16. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Are Leeds goalkeepers good for BPS like Pope is, or are they more of a City in which it's CS or bust?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think the GK will be busy in the PL.

  17. Orbiter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What are your thoughts on DALE STEPHENS this year?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Fodder

      1. Orbiter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Bissouma a better option at 4.5?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Yeah, Gordon another.

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Is Gordon a better punt than Smallbone?

  18. Srv210
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anybody going for double up of TAA+Robbo with 3 premium mids?

    It's totally disturbing the balance but just wondering if someone came up with a decent team with this combination

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      50m for 10 players doesn't sound fun.

      1. Srv210
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yup, that's why asking if someone is trying this

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I got TAA, VVD and Gomez at the back. Bruno, KDB and Sterling in midfield.

      1. Srv210
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Triple pool defence , that's something

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I had Robbo, but found I needed to 1.5 extra. Used it to get Martial up top.It's a mainly 5-4-1/4-5-1/4-4-2

    3. Blitzar
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      McCarthy
      TAA ROBERTSON 3X4.5
      KDB. AUBA/SALAH ZIYECH/GREENWOOD SOUCEK. ASM
      JIMINEZ. MARTIAL/WERNER

      1. Jo Melon
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I like it!

      2. Thomas Shelby from Birmingh…
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Pretty much the template running on FFS ryt now

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          It's excellent, but there's no template. Doesn't have Bruno, for a start.

          1. Thomas Shelby from Birmingh…
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            People have one of KDB/Bruno as option...I mean same names rolling over

  19. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy nyland
    TAA Saiss Vinagre
    Salah Sterling Greenwood Grealish
    Ings Jimmy Antonio

    Crap

  20. The FPL Units
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I am seriously looking at a 4 - 5 - 1 formation and have this draft with a punt on Ziyech.

    Martinez/McCarthy II (Nyland)
    TAA – VVD – Doherty – Vinagre II Ferguson
    Salah – KdB – Bruno – Ziyech – Soucek
    Ayew II (Bamford - Davis)

    What do you think? Too light up front?

    1. Jo Melon
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yes. Find money to upgrade Ayew

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno Ayew >> Martial Greenwood

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ha, a substantial improvement!

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          At least on paper

          1. The FPL Units
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks that does look better. I was trying to shoehorn Bruno in.

  21. Francescoli
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Going only two premium midfielders has significantly strengthened my draft. Currently toying around with this lot:

    Ryan
    TAA Robertson Vinagre Taylor
    Salah KDB Greenwood Ziyech
    Werner Antonio

    Button Ferguson Bissouma Wickham

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      There are so many options and working out where the best return for your money will be.

      1. Francescoli
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yes that's right. I'm a little uneasy about fielding two newcomers to the premier league (Werner and Ziyech) so may opt for a safer approach. Also, I remember looking at the Man Utd stats from late last season and had ranked Greenwood behind their other three attackers (Martial, Rashford and Fernandes) so not sure I'll start with him either. I have to say, I'm not loving the mid price (6.5-8.5) midfield options this year...

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Looks excellent to me. The two new Chelsea boys is a bit of a risk, but I'd be happy to stick with that. The main question mark is whether Taylor regains his place from Pieters. Saliba might be a bargain 4.5 alternative if he impresses in the Commy Shield.

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Werner and Ziyech look like gambles.

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      We're pretty same atm draft wise

  22. Team17
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First draft. Madness to go without KDB? Although it's an easy switch...

    McCarthy (Nyland)

    TAA Tierney Vinagre (Taylor, Johnson)

    Salah Sterling Ziyech Greenwood Soucek

    Kane Antonio (Davis)

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It does look very good but yes, that omission would trouble me. I'd take him over Kane myself and go 4-5-1 but that's just me!

      1. Team17
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'll have to think about that. Sterling to KDB is the easy move. But I could just about upgrade soucek to KDB and have just Antonio up front. But Soucek might just be the best value in the game. Astonished to see him at 5.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Would you consider saving/reassigning a little by changing Tierney for Saliba? I can see you have a preference for wingbacks.

  23. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    It feels like they made a mistake pricing Stuart Armstrong this season. Hassenhuttl finally figured out how to use him, and he has been fantastic for them ever since, with very solid goal and assist contributions. For only 5.5 he's a great makeweight in my opinion, and by far the best at his price.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Inclined to agree. Most are going for ASM at the price point. For many opening fixtures might influence their choice.

      1. Fit of Pique
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        This is where I'm at, they're the most appealing 5.5s for me.

        Would go Soucek but don't want two Hammers and prioritisng Antonio.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      While you're there, do you follow Saints? I could do with some insight into Smallbone, as in is he likely to see more action?

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Smallbone was used mainly as backup to Stu. However, Ralph has suggested that Smallbone's future might be in the deep double pivot and not in the attacking midfield role, and I tend to agree. He keep things ticking along, doesn't dally on the ball for too long, but his crossing, and shooting are not up to par at this stage of his development.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Thanks for that. I just need to figure out if he'll see more pitch time than any other 4.5 midf such as Gordon at Everton. Now to find room for Armstrong!

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I do not, so sadly I cannot give you insight there

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Anyone knows why did he play so less minutes lasts season ??

      Isn't he first choice ??

      Actually I'm also looking at Adams at 6.0 mate.

      He looked like secured spot in the 11 at the end of the last season.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I've got Adams as my 2nd, playable striker - chose him over Mitro. I'm now looking for the best 4th & 5th midf option.
        If Armstrong is nailed and dangerous, I'll lose Soucek and find 0.5m. But I also want the 4.5 mid who's most likely to do something on the rare occasions he's asked to step up.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Southampton create lot's of chances. Like Adams.
          Armstrong not so much as he looks like a streaky player. Regarding Soucek he's a bargain. Can be benched for one of the 4.5m Defenders too

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I'll prob play the fixtures there. If Saints have a kind opening set I'll have 3 in my squad - Adams, Armstrong and Smallbone. Two might see a lot of the bench but they'll be tidy enablers. Armstrong can easily become Soucek or ASM if he seems to be off his streak.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yeah
              Some cheap options available too in the price range.

          2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            You don't like Armstrong because you perceive him as streaky, yet you're fine with Adams, who scored less than him all season from a much further advanced position? I owned Armstrong in the run in for the season, he ticked over with an assist or goal every now and then, I'd say he's less streaky than Adams.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Ha ha
              Maybe bias coming in. I watched him play after restart & can't remember much about Armstrong.
              Also Soucek at 5.0 looks very good deal to pass on so ...

              1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Soucek does look good statistically true, but I'll never be comfortable with owning a DM for more than 4.5.

                1. Thomas Shelby from Birmingh…
                  • 4 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  How about Keita if he's nailed in starring XI ?

                  1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
                    • 7 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    I doubt he ever will be, but he is a good option if he can be. Problem is he takes a liverpool slot

                    1. Thomas Shelby from Birmingh…
                      • 4 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Agree even Gomez is better VFM...it's difficult to find convincing budget Mids

      2. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Didnt start the season as a starter, which was kinda bonkers. Became a mainstay once Ralph dully adopted his Leipzig 4-2-2-2 as the right sided attacking mid.
        Has had problems with fitness at times, presses a lot so get overworked sometimes, which is why he is sometimes benched for Smallbone. Think he has earned that starting berth though.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not interested then. No need to get players who aren't 100% nailed.

          How about Adams ?? He looked decent to me. I have him in my draft atm mate

          1. Differential C (Mark)
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Picked up form after restart, looks like his confidence is sky high. Decent pick at that price point. Sharp too, good instincts in the box.

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Nice
              Thank you

      3. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Hassnehuttl only started to play him halfway through the season

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Thank you

    4. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Rotation and injury prone

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        He was rotation prone in the absolutely packed season run in, but he's probably less likely to be rotated now we're back to "normal" fixtures

        1. Differential C (Mark)
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Now that is actually an excellent point I failed to take note of. Yes, the jam-packed schedule impacted his fitness massively. Should be less prone now with a more typical rate of gameplay.

  24. the dom 1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which is a better option you think to have from CHE?

    a. Werner
    b. Ziyech

    Cheers

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Probably Ziyech, at Werner's price range I prefer Vardy and Martial. At least until we see how Lampard transitions him into the side.

      1. the dom 1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers

  25. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I am fairly happy with this general structure until fixtures are released;

    Ryan
    Alexander-Arnold Aurier Walker-Peters Taylor
    Salah/Aubameyang de Bruyne Son Armstrong
    Vardy Ings

    Nyland / Bissouma / Ferguson / Brewster

    I don't want to start with any of the new Chelsea players as there are many ways their season could go, particularly as Werner's player profile really doesn't suit the 4-3-3 Lampard seems to be most likely to gun for with Ziyech and Pulisic as wingers, so they're a wait and see for me. I am probably going to skip on Man United and Man City players because of their shorter pre-season aside de Bruyne because of his huge ownership (not to mention how easy he is to shift at his new price). That could change closer to the season's start, we'll see.

    Vardy got 30 G+A last season so at 10 million is still good value for money, and it's quite likely that Leicester start the season off better than they left off last season. Southampton are on an upward trajectory in my opinion, which is I've tripled up, as Ings, Armstrong and Walker-Peters all offer good value for money. Aurier could be seeing many more clean sheets and improved attacking play, so he's my current punt, but the most likely to give way if I decide to upgrade de Bruyne by 0.5. What do you think? Any points you disagree with?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd be wary of Spuds - their EL qualifiers campaign starts before GW2!

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        True, I'd forgotten about that. Useful to consider. I will most likely still keep Son, but we'll see about Aurier

    2. Fit of Pique
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      The thing about tripling up on any team is it consumes resources to move away from it if your instinct or timing is off.

      I did something similar with Leicester at the start last year, got the timing wrong by a few weeks and wasted loads of transfers moving their players out, then back in.

      I happen to agree with you about Southampton btw, just think starting with 3 is a bit much.

  26. RAMZES666
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA VVD Taylor Dallas/Ferguson
    Salah KDB Auba Greenwood
    Antonio Ayew

    What do you guys think of this draft with 3 premium mids and 2 premium defs?

  27. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is Gordon nailed on first choice?

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That's what I'm trying to find out. Carlos seemed to like him as the season closed, but that's insufficient indication.

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not really. Can only know much closer to GW1 kickoff

    3. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Started a bunch as the season ended, Everton buddy of mine reckons he starts. Has honestly looked their best winger wince restart.

  28. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Best mid option for 6.5m?

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Depends. I like Trossard at 6.0 if he can get fit, he has a lot more to offer to Brighton.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers. Not that convinced by him tbh, prefer Armstrong for 5.5m

        1. Gabbiadini
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          +1 for Armstrong at 5.5

          1. SpaceCadet
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Thanks

        2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Me too, I have Armstrong, but I was trying to go for closer to 6.5 price.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm keeping tabs on McNeil who's said to be close to joining Leicester

    3. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Foden if you're willing to ride Pep Roullete.
      Traore is a good option, but I might be taking punt on Bowen at West Ham. Likes to take a shot, looks an attacking spark up top, scored a bunch for Hull in the Championship.

      1. SpaceCadet
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Very tempted by foden but not sure I can handle pep roullete so early in the season. Is Traore nailed? Not sure he starts every game. Cheers.

    4. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      McNeil

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Foden

        1. ClassiX
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Foden not featuring at all in the CL QF is bothering me, TBH. Not sure how to interpret that.

          1. Thomas Shelby from Birmingh…
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Wait for Messi to sign

            1. ClassiX
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              🙂

            2. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              New deal at Barcelona ?
              😉

    5. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jota/Traore

  29. SpaceCadet
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on this draft folks? Cheers

    ryan
    taa doherty pieters
    salah kdb greenwood ziyech armstrong
    martial antonio

    button ayling ferguson wickham

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Rather downgrade Greenwood and go 4-4-2, with the extra money upgrading whoever.

    1. Differential C (Mark)
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      15.0m is the only accpetanle price tag for him.

    2. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      So, that rules Foden out 😉