Moving Target

Is Ben White the best FPL defender option at £4.5m?

We assess the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) appeal of Ben White (£4.5m) following his £50m move to Arsenal from Brighton and Hove Albion.

When it came to the skimpy price reveal by the powers that be last month, as part of a Brighton defence that conceded the fewest goals of anyone in the Premier League last season outside the traditional “big six”, the eyes of many where being drawn to the England defender.

Fast forward little over a fortnight, and the 23-year-old’s big-money move from the south coast to an Arsenal back three that cried out for a commanding, if silky, centre-half presence through much of last season, has turned the eye-catching to unmissable.

The rarest of gems, White’s post-Fantasy mark-up move has seen his ownership figures rocket to over 23% and he is by far the most-owned asset at a club with big expectations to improve on what was a dismal campaign last season.

Wesley Fofana‘s (£4.5m) horrendous injury and the FPL exodus that followed has also boosted White’s numbers

Falling firmly within the much coveted ‘premium enabler’ category, the question now turns to how much of an asset he can become to our squads. 

Whilst Fantasy legends are born on similar tales of late-summer transfer fortune (Diogo Jota (£7.5m) springs to mind), the name Rhian Brewster still rings violently in the heads of many a scorned selector.

With that in mind, we use the datasets found in the Fantasy Football Scout Members Area to run the rule over this season’s great White hope.

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The History

If you feel that Ben White’s is a name you have been hearing for quite a few years in terms of a glorious coming of age, few could put a reasonable argument to the contrary. 

Having left boyhood club Southampton as a 16-year-old before joining the Seagulls academy in 2014, White got his first taste of senior football during a much-lauded loan spell at Newport County across their 2017/18 League 2 campaign, making 42 appearances for the Welsh side as a teenage centre-half.

It was at the start of that 2018-19 season that White first pinged on the FPL radar, priced up at £4.0m whilst playing understudy to the proven centre-back partnership of Lewis Dunk (£5.0m) and Shane Duffy (£4.0m) that, incredibly, still are available for Brighton backers to select this season.

White registered no Premier League minutes throughout that Dunk and Duffy dominated 18/19 campaign, spending the latter half of the season on loan at League One side Peterborough United. He earned rave reviews during his 16-game spell, with the Posh narrowly missing out on the play-offs on the final day of the regular season.

Still deemed surplus to starting XI requirements at the Amex, White secured a high-profile loan to Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds United at the beginning of what proved to be the most fruitful of years for the Yorkshire giants. As the Whites romped to Championship success, White was an ever present at the heart of their all-action defensive third.

By the time he had left Elland Road before embarking on his first full season as a playing asset for Brighton in the Premier League last season, White was voted the Championship Young Player of the Year as well as featuring in the Championship Team of the Season for 2019/20.

And so finally, last season, and a breakout year in the Premier League, where the Dorset-born defender made 36 Premier League appearances in that impressive Brighton defence. He was voted Club Player of the Year on the night he made his first senior start for his country against Romania.

White (eventually) found himself in the England squad for the Euros, after the withdrawal of Trent Alexander-Arnold (£7.5m) through injury yet failed to make an appearance at this summer’s showpiece event as England made it to the final of the competition.

Hailed for his ball-playing attributes, interest in White reached fever pitch over the summer and eventually resulted in Brighton wilting in their attempts to keep hold of him when Arsenal came calling.

Having penned a long-term contract at the Emirates he has been handed the number four shirt immortalised by the likes of Patrick Vieira and Cesc Fabregas and made his debut in Saturday’s 2-1 friendly defeat to Chelsea.

The Statistics

The 23-year-old’s output from a Fantasy perspective was credible last season, if falling short of awe inspiring. For instance, we still await his first attacking return, having only engineered 10 attempts from 22 touches in total in opponent’s penalty areas throughout last season. Only one gave an opposing keeper any worry.

But Mikel Arteta certainly has not acquired White on the back of his attacking prowess, but rather that sustained consistency that evaded the Gunners for the vast majority of last season. 

White registered 3,194 minutes of Premier League playing time, 636 minutes more than Rob Holding (£4.5m) – Arsenal’s most featured defensive asset. That’s seven games.

Despite Arsenal and Brighton both recording 12 clean sheets last season, White tallied more than any Arsenal defender in the category given his nigh-on ever-presence for Graham Potter’s side.

Given that, it’s no surprise that the Gunners newbie scored significantly higher than his new teammates in terms of Baseline Bouns Points last season, but more telling in terms of what White can bring to his new side can be found in his per 90 stats in key defensive categories.

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  1. sentz05
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Happy with this except from White pick. Thoughts?

    Bachmann Foster
    Shaw Digne White Velterman Hoever
    Bruno Salah Son ESR Gilmour
    Wilson Ings Antonio

    1. SchluppsIDidItAgain
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Nice! Keep an eye on Wilson though, think he’s an injury doubt

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Due to be in the lineup for the friendly against Norwich today.

        1. Hairy Potter
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Playing now

  2. sirmorbach
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    What do you think, friends?

    Meslier (4.0)
    TAA / Shaw / Coufal (White, 4.0)
    Salah / Bruno / Raphinha / Barnes / Buendía
    Bamford / Jiménez (4.5)

    1. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Thinking of going with same front two as well.

  3. Ricky - it doesn\'t ta…
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    whos the best 8m + 7.5m forward now then?

    absolute rollercaster with these options pre season. currently looking at ings [i dont know why] and antonio atm

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I've got Jimenez Antonio Toney for a while now

    2. thepeen555
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      There isn't many choices thats the trouble but most would end up with the same until Kane situation is sorted

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Ings Antonio for me at present but good performance by Iheanacho today could change my mind

    4. Hairy Potter
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Wilson if fit? Has a great record against West Ham. Depends if Newcastle can replicate form from end of last season.

    5. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      INGSSSS

    6. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      can’t work it out either. Wilson, Antonio & Jimenez all fighting out between themselves to get 2 spots. Leaning toward Wilson and Antonio to start and Jimenez in gw4 but can also see Jimi doing well to start the season, even with the tougher fixtures.

  4. thepeen555
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    The thing that stops me from leaving the team alone is that it looks better without TAA as it did last year. I know his % owned is high but damn that extra 2-2.5m is vital

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah with the like
      Of Cresswell 2m cheaper with 7 points less.

      1. thepeen555
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yep exactly and that extra 2m or so can be used to upgrade 2 different people to make them the better options and points tally as a whole.

        Went without TAA last season and will likely need to do so again.

        There just ends up players I am putting in cause thats the best out of the price but not who I would tend to pick

    2. ClassiX
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah - you almost can't look at TAA alone - you have to consider comparings groupings like (TAA + Raphina + Toney) vs (Shaw + Barnes + Ings)

      1. thepeen555
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yep moving out TAA went from TAA and Ziyech to Shaw and havertz with 1m to upgrade someone else that haven't decided yet to do

        If lukaku joins Chelsea this could well change but I doubt he will be playing gw1 anyway so

  5. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Lads (or she), what are we using to keep track of scores? Any app I have has all the non friendlies prioritised so I can’t find the games that really matter.

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Sofascore app seems to be doing a good job.

      Switched from the Onefootball app yesterday and it seems much better.

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Much better. Thank you.

    2. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Goal live

  6. SEXY SON
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    Boils down to this for my GW1 team:

    A) Trent | Robbo | Sarr | ESR
    B) Trent | White | Grealish | Sarr
    C) Robbo | White | Mahrez | ESR

    Which would you choose?

    Thanks

    1. SEXY SON
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Or

      D) Trent | White | Mahrez | 5.0 mid

    2. thepeen555
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers

    3. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      D - thinking Tella as 5 m mid ( assuming 5th midfielder)

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah but also starting for me (3-5-2)

        Thanks

    4. Thomas Magnum
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      B but you’d almost hope that Grealish won’t be ready for week 1 so he’s more likely to start against Norwich. I know you probably will WC early but will come down to if you think Robbo or Grealish will score more

      1. SEXY SON
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Nice one mate, currently on B

  7. JONALDINHO
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 8 months ago

    A free kick goal in a friendly and people are going back on being bruNO?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Nearly scored just as you posted this

        Tbf to them he looks fresh and firing

      • g40steve
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Team is 11 players not just 1, still going without.

      • Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        This is normal in preseason. That’s exactly why we pay attention.

      • dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        It’s the fact he looks refreshed and sharp compared to lethargy at end of last season and into Euros

    2. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Bachmann / Foster
      TAA, Shaw, Digne, Cancelo / Veltman
      Salah, Bruno, Jota, Buendia / Brownhill
      Antonio, Nacho / Obafemi

      I am starting to get stuck here. DCL's toe made me to ditch for and upgrade AWB to Cancelo and get Veltman instead of White just in case I need Cancelo is rotated during GW2 or 3. Still not in love with this formation, but with having Cancelo over White I at least know I am getting something. Or where should I invest that 1.5 million?

      1. JBG
        • 5 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Looks pretty good, brave going for Cancelo imo.. never know with Pep.
        Is Nachos a sure starter as well?

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Wilson is another possibility. But having both Antonio and Wilson is like having to fear double hammy injury every week.

      2. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Amount of typos 🙁 I simply can't multitask.

    3. JBG
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Thoughts on my new draft, which I actually changed for the first time in weeks, lol.

      Sanchez(Foster)
      TAA-Shaw-Chambers/White(Ayling-4.0)
      Bruno-Salah-Greenwood-Harrison-Mahrez
      Toney-Watkins(Obafemi)

      Bottomed last page.

      1. sk24
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        "Same" as mine, or similar thinking to be more precise. I have Digne, Gundogan, Raphinha for your White, Mahrez, Harrison... main dilemma is Gundogan or Mahrez, will be watching this evening if Gundogan resembles last season without KDB

      2. Old Bull
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        So you dropped Digne?

        1. JBG
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Digne, DCL, Buendia, Mount and Nouri.

          1. Old Bull
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            It looks ok. I’m steering clear of City but Mahrez is capable of a haul to make up for any limited minutes. Had Oba myself but there was some talk of him going to Blackburn I think.

    4. foreverton
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      TAA or Greenwood for first 3 weeks?

      Have to pick one.

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        TAA

      2. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        TAA

      3. Visionaries
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Think Greenwood is much better value tbh

    5. Inter Me Gran
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      I know Pep roulette but at £100m is Grealish more assured than others? So;

      A) Grealish and ESR
      B) Buendia and Barnes

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B

      2. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B for fixtures. Outside of that I doubt Grealish's price tag makes him more assured of game-time.

      3. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B

      4. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        B

        1. Inter Me Gran
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Resounding B then!

          Thanks all!

    6. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Who are the best 4.5 - 5.0 keepers for save points?

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Meslier

        1. Pep bites Kun
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I certainly liked the look of Leeds def at the back end of last season. Injuries may be a worry. Could lead to less cleanies, but possibly more save points & baps

      2. Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I’d go Meslier if I could afford him. Think I’ll start with Bachmann myself and hope he’ll be this seasons Meslier

    7. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Everton defense double-up not looking that good atm...

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        At the moment?

        1. Bobby Digital
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Yes, they're down 3-0

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Has an Everton defensive double up ever looked good?

      2. Old Bull
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole right now. If they get Dumfries though I’m in.

      3. Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Never looked good. One Everton player is even pushing it

    8. Dacra
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Any thoughts on this?

      Sanchez (4.0)
      Taa - Shaw - Stones (Ayling, 4.0)
      Salah - Bruno - Havertz - ESR (Brownhill)
      Iheanacho - Wilson - Toney

      0.0itb

      Just switched in Havertz and Toney for Raphina and DCL.

      1. Aubamazette
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Looks good, monitor Iheanacho however

    9. SchluppsIDidItAgain
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Why is no one considering Townsend? Is it just because he’s old; bad; in a new team under a defensive manager; proven to not be a high points scorer over several years; and there are better midfield options for not too much more cash? Or is there another reason?

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        He’s also a very ugly mammal.

      2. Gomolon
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Yes

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          What is it?

    10. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Thank the sweet baby Jesus that Sibley is finally out. A true death knell for test crickets dwindling appeal.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        He’s gone now I would have thought

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          I really hope so.

      2. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Also ground is packed, dwindling appeal - perhaps

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Certainly not dwindling among folk like me. Not dwindling at live events either yet. But I’m only getting older and the youth pretty much laugh at the idea of test.

      3. Ginkapo FPL
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Why are you posting about another live sport on here?

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Because I’m absolutely mental.

          1. Ginkapo FPL
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Mad lad

            Some are genuinely upset by this, no idea what they expect

    11. Catastrophe
      • 13 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Watkins, Raphinha and Digne out, looking at Leeds from GW5 by which point I'll likely have wildcarded. Any good?

      Sanchez
      TAA, Shaw, Coufal
      Salah, Fernandes, Greenwood, Jota, Buendia
      Antonio, Toney

      (Foster, White, Veltman, Davis)

      Cheers

      1. Old Bull
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        Digne out and Greenwood in does seem a little knee jerk but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.

    12. Joey Tribbiani
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 8 months ago

      Greenwood + 4.5 million outscoring Bruno
      Bruno out again

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        I guess it’s that simple then. Enjoy

      2. Old Bull
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 8 months ago

        That’s two players?

        1. Joey Tribbiani
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Greenwood outscoring Bruno.
          Happy?

          1. Old Bull
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Ok so why mention the 4.5? Why not just be bold and say I think the cheaper Greenwood will outscore Bruno over 38 gameweeks?

            1. Joey Tribbiani
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              way to put words in my mouth 😀 38 weeks?!?!
              Original comment was just a sarcastic comment to those changing their team everytime a pre season goal goes in, dont take it so serious ha

      3. @persecuted_by_mods
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Oh yeah, well Maguire is outscoring Greenwood

        • SEXY SON
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 8 months ago

          Still time for a penalty

          1. SEXY SON
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            And Bruno’s on 3 BAPulars

            1. Joey Tribbiani
              • 3 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Oh yeah forgot about those haha

      4. @persecuted_by_mods
          2 years, 8 months ago

          As poor as Everton have been they've still had a fair few chance, Leeds Vs Utd should be tasty for attacking points

          1. Eh, just one more thing ...
            • 12 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            How has Digne looked … assuming he’s playing?

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                2 years, 8 months ago

                Same as always, decent option but a no go for me if everton have no strikers fit

                1. Pep bites Kun
                  • 7 Years
                  2 years, 8 months ago

                  What's the deal with Lewin - not even on the bench no?

          2. Gudjohnsen
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Grealish or Mahrez?

            1. SEXY SON
              • 7 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Exactly my conundrum (and pretty much only one)

              I’m thinking Grealish, should get so many mins with KdB out

              1. SEXY SON
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                For context my midfield is already very expensive with:

                Salah | Bruno | Son | 5.0-6.0 mid

                So Grealish seems a more ‘balanced’ option for the rest of the team

            2. Karan14
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Mahrez. Pep has said Grealish is not ready yet.

              1. SEXY SON
                • 7 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                I think that’s in reference to community shield.

                If he comes on tomorrow and trains well in the week then got a good chance starting GW1 I think

            3. Beatle
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              I'm going Mahrez and Gundogan

            4. dunas_dog
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 8 Years
              2 years, 8 months ago

              Mahrez

          3. Weasel Boy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            TAA + Lowton (if not injured)
            Or
            Robertson + Coufal

            Thanks

          4. Hazz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 6 Years
            2 years, 8 months ago

            Maguire CS & max bonus locked in

            1. @persecuted_by_mods
                2 years, 8 months ago

                +greenwood messes up a good chance

                1. Hazz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  2 years, 8 months ago

                  Lovely ball to him. Did you catch who floated that in?

                  1. @persecuted_by_mods
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      Juan Mata, if only he had the legs because the quality is top notch

              • Steve The Spud
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 4 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                Will veran be ready for the season?

                1. Karan14
                  • 8 Years
                  2 years, 8 months ago

                  Nope bench for GW1.

              • Karan14
                • 8 Years
                2 years, 8 months ago

                Digne or double up on United def with Maguire?

                1. @persecuted_by_mods
                    2 years, 8 months ago

                    Neither

                    1. Karan14
                      • 8 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      Then who?

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          Well jokes aside Digne is decent if evertons strikers are fit for gw1 and a urd double up is okay because of the fixtures

                          Just be wary for gw1, Everton might have no strikers and I expect Leeds to score Vs utd

                    2. dunas_dog
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 8 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      Tempted with Stones depending on game tonight

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          Same, Chelsea and city heavily in the thinking

                      2. Weeb Kakashi
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        Im switching up Digne to Cancelo

                    3. Bleh
                      • 7 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      Best combo?

                      A. Greenwood, Ings
                      B. Mahrez, Toney

                      1. Riska
                        • 12 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        I'm on the same dilemma. Exactly the same. Can't split. I guess short term it's A and long-term B but it's basically a coin toss right?

                    4. Beatle
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      No DCL today? Is he injured?

                      1. Karan14
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        Yes knock.

                        1. Beatle
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          Tks. Unlikely to be back next week?

                      2. Andy_Social
                        • 11 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        bad toe

                    5. Andy_Social
                      • 11 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      One thing this friendly makes clear - the difference between Luke Shaw and Brandon Williams is like night and day. He wouldn't be my 4m defender of choice, that's for shaw 😉

                      1. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 12 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        Shaw isnt 4m

                      2. Piggs Boson
                        • 12 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        He's much better on the right, where he can utilise his right foot better.

                        He's unfortunate he's had to cover at LB for so long. He played LB at youth a lot to facilitate the talented Ethan Laird at RB, and when he came into the first team he was forced to cover at LB. If he gets a loan, I hope it's somewhere he can play at RB regularly.

                    6. Manani
                      • 12 Years
                      2 years, 8 months ago

                      thoughts on Jota??

                      he was the first one I chose when i make my team, but dont see many that have him here. People scared of his rotation risk?

                      1. @persecuted_by_mods
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          I've got him, even if he doesn't start he can score off the bench, was unlucky not to score more end of last season but I think that patch of bad form has burnt people from going to him. Worth the risk for me

                        • footballfreak
                          • 4 Years
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          i have him too..i think he is guaranteed starter for at least first 2 games..with weaker teams last year klopp even played all 4 up front..but even if not firmino came back to training later than him

                      2. Sanchit
                        • 8 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        How has Digne looked apart from the first goal conceded?

                        1. JBG
                          • 5 Years
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          OKish. Had a decent cross, but that's about it.

                        2. Joey Tribbiani
                          • 3 Years
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          not great

                      3. Ginkapo FPL
                        • 12 Years
                        2 years, 8 months ago

                        Who are united playing? I am in the camp that united players arent a good idea with them being badly prepared for the season, but comments seem to suggest that might not be true.

                        1. JBG
                          • 5 Years
                          2 years, 8 months ago

                          Everton.

                          1. Piggs Boson
                            • 12 Years
                            2 years, 8 months ago

                            Everton's best XI too, bar Richarlison and DCL.

                            But it's only a friendly...

                        2. @persecuted_by_mods
                            2 years, 8 months ago

                            Everton are woeful, not a good comparison with Leeds

                          • Andy_Social
                            • 11 Years
                            2 years, 8 months ago

                            The starting xi look fine. Can't be sure the ones who got an hour or so will have a full tank, but I saw enough to be confident in my United triple-up.