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The best premium FPL midfielders for 2020/21

Premium midfielders have probably been the most-discussed group of players since Fantasy Premier League relaunched in the summer.

The reclassification of Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (£12.0m) and Marcus Rashford (£9.5m) has added to the wealth of options that Fantasy managers already have – and that’s before we even entertain the idea of Lionel Messi becoming a Premier League player.

In this piece, we’ll assess the merits of all 18 FPL midfielders who are currently listed between £7.5m and £12.0m inclusive.

We had previously looked at budget and mid-price midfielders in separate articles, along with budget goalkeepersmid-price/premium goalkeepersbudget defenders and mid-price/premium defenders.

Our rundown of the stand-out Fantasy forwards will follow soon.

Liverpool

 1

With the two Manchester clubs not in action in Gameweek 1, there’ll be plenty of interest in Liverpool’s premium duo for their opening-weekend clash against newly promoted Leeds United.

On paper, the decision has been made a little easier by Fantasy Premier League pricing up both Sadio Mane and Mohamed Salah at £12.0m.

Salah has, after all, outscored Mane for FPL points in each of the last three seasons, averaged more points per match in 2019/20 (6.9 v 6.3) and has the added bonus of being on penalties whenever James Milner (£5.5m) is not on the field.

Look a little closer though and the pair are more evenly matched than first appears with Salah only edging his teammate by one attacking return (29 v 28) in 2019/20.

If we remove substitute appearances and Mane’s infamous, injury-affected cameo in Double Gameweek 24, the gap is also much narrower when it comes to points per start (7.0 v 6.9 in Salah’s favour).

Their tallies for double-digit hauls, blanks and bonus points were also nearly identical last season.

The key difference is their shot count, with the Egyptian racking up over 50 more attempts on goal than his fellow premium midfielder.

Mane is therefore heavily reliant on maintaining a vastly superior goal conversion rate (as he has done in the last two seasons) in order to keep pace.

You can read much more on Liverpool’s two big hitters in a special comparison piece we published earlier this month.

Arsenal

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Aubameyang’s recategorisation as an Fantasy midfielder was perhaps the headline story upon the relaunch of FPL in August.

The Gabon international would have finished third in the FPL standings on 230 points had the positional reclassification come a year earlier and it would have raised Aubameyang’s points-per-match average from 5.7 to 6.4.

If we take that average and compare it to the other premium midfielders in FPL, the Arsenal talisman is around about mid-table along with Rashford:


Player2019/20 Points Per Match
Fernandes8.4
De Bruyne7.2
Salah6.9
Aubameyang (as a midfielder)6.4
Rashford (as a midfielder)6.4
Mane6.3
Sterling6.2
Son5.7

It could be argued that there is better value in the premium bracket, then, with Rashford (who admittedly seems to have lost penalty-taking duties) averaging the same number of points per match as Aubameyang last season but significantly cheaper.

While it would be hard to justify keeping the Gabon international for an entire season, he is a name to perhaps target for the “easier” fixtures – of which Arsenal have two to start the season with.

Almost 75% his attacking returns, 16 of his goals and all six of his double-digit hauls came against teams in the bottom ten last season.

Again, we’ll point you in the direction of our stand-alone piece on Aubameyang, which delved into his numbers in much greater detail.

Willian (£8.0m) and Nicolas Pepe (£8.0m) offer a substantial saving on Aubameyang but there are obvious reasons for that.

While Aubameyang is almost ‘nailed’ to start under Mikel Arteta, Pepe hasn’t been so far: in the 20 matches that his new manager oversaw, the winger was benched in seven of them.

Given that he could again be competing with Willian, Reiss Nelson (£5.5m), Bukayo Saka (£5.5m) and possibly Aubameyang down the right flank this season, even a starting price drop of £1.5m might not be enough of a carrot for FPL managers.

Pepe was heavily involved at set-piece situations last season but Willian looks set to challenge him at free-kicks and corners, which would further dent his appeal.

No midfielder now priced at £8.0m or less averaged more points per match (4.7) or scored more goals (nine) than Willian in 2019/20.

Creatively, only three current FPL midfielders supplied more big chances.

Again, though, we will have to see just how secure a starter the 32-year-old Brazilian is before taking the plunge – and whether he can somehow wrestle penalty-taking duties away from Aubameyang, as four of the ex-Chelsea winger’s nine goals last season came from the spot.

Manchester City

How De Bruyne and Sterling compare as FPL assets for 2020/21?

It’s difficult to split Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m) and Raheem Sterling (£11.5m), despite the Belgian scoring almost 50 more FPL points than his teammate last season.

Essentially, De Bruyne massively overachieved based on the expected goal involvement (xGI) data and Sterling hugely underachieved.

That’s not to say De Bruyne’s returns are unsustainable, as his accuracy from range often makes a mockery of Opta’s predictions and the best players tend to exceed expectations year after year.

But rather, we’d expect Sterling to improve on what he did last season.

He was the only one of the current crop of £10.0m+ Fantasy assets whose xGI delta was in the negative and it was in the assist count that he really suffered, with just six of them arriving in 2019/20; he had averaged 15.3 per year over the previous seasons.

Our Premium Members article compares the two in finer detail but the crux of it is that Sterling poses the greater goal threat, with De Bruyne by some distance the more creative – and the Belgian is now seemingly first in line for penalties for the Citizens.

There’ll be few takers of Bernardo Silva (£7.5m), who has never hit double figures for goals or assists in his three seasons as the Etihad, but Riyad Mahrez’s (£8.5m) name is often thrown around in pre-season by those considering a cut-price route in the Manchester City attack.

The Algerian’s rate of attacking returns per 90 minutes (1.09) was better than Salah’s (0.88) and almost as good as De Bruyne’s (1.11) but full-game run-outs were few and far between for the Algerian, who started just 21 Premier League fixtures and completed only nine of them.

If we could be sure of starts for Mahrez then he would be a no-brainer at that price, but as it stands, he’s a high-risk, high-reward type of player who is equally capable of a blank in a 20-minute cameo as he is a 16-point haul.

His average of 5.3 points per match in 2019/20 was better than any other midfielder who now costs less than £9.0m, which underscores his potential.

City blank in Gameweek 1 and in truth their fixtures don’t get good until late-November, with six of last season’s top-half clubs to come before that point.

Manchester United

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We are spoilt for choice in the Manchester United midfield next season, with both Rashford and Mason Greenwood (£7.5m) reclassified ahead of 2019/20.

Those two players and Bruno Fernandes (£10.5m) racked up 25 attacking returns between them in Manchester United’s nine post-restart fixtures, with the Red Devils galvanised by the Portugal international’s arrival in the final third of the season.

Fernandes’ points-per-match average of 8.4 looks unsustainable over the course of a full campaign but he could still do plenty of damage, especially as he seems to have wrestled control of penalties away from Rashford.

Even if we were to strip away spot-kicks completely (which arrived at a fierce rate for the Red Devils last season), Fernandes would still have averaged around 6.2 FPL points per match following his arrival – a very competitive figure.

There is also plenty to like about Rashford despite the winger losing the monopoly on penalties, with his expected goal involvement figure almost identical to Fernandes – who had the advantage of two extra spot-kicks – from Gameweek 30+ onwards.

This could be Salah v Mane part II: two midfield assets from the same club who are posting similar numbers in many departments, only one has penalty-taking duties on their side (we assume).

The difference in this case is that they are separated by one million in price.

Reliability of starts is something we can likely depend on with this duo, with Rashford and Fernandes lining up in every single Premier League match that they were available for.

Greenwood below-par and

Greenwood was the breakthrough act of last season but he did massively overachieve in the run-in, with the Opta eggheads suggesting he should have scored one goal – and not five – after lockdown ended.

The youngster will be heavily reliant on his deadeye finishing skills to keep pace with his more senior teammates if the underlying stats continue in the same manner but his main selling point is his price.

All of these appealing £9.0m+ heavy-hitters we’ve discussed in this article; we can’t afford them all.

That’s where the likes of Greenwood and Phil Foden (£6.5m) may come into play at their respective clubs, with both players unlikely to match their pricier colleagues for returns but getting plenty of game-time and acting as enablers for moves elsewhere.

United blank in Gameweek 1 but their fixtures thereafter look appealing, so contingency plans may be needed for their assets.

Our Premium Members article has a lot more on the United midfielders but you won’t find much on Paul Pogba (£8.0m), whose deep-lying playmaker status and loss of spot-kick duties have killed any interest in him from a Fantasy perspective.

The Frenchman indeed registered just one solitary shot in the box after the mid-June restart.

Chelsea

We already have two Chelsea assets at the bottom-end of the premium market and, if media rumours are to be believed, then Kai Havertz might be added to that pool.

The duo we already have to choose from are Hakim Ziyech (£8.0m) and Christian Pulisic (£8.5m), the latter of whom was in excellent form towards the end of the campaign.

The American averaged 0.85 goal involvements per 90 minutes in an injury-affected season, which was almost as good as the figures that Salah and Mane posted.

His ability to ghost into dangerous positions caught the eye and Pulisic was third among players in this article for shots in the box per 90 minutes.

The problem for a large chunk of the season was pitch-time, with first form and then fitness an issue.

Willian and Pulisic make case for Chelsea double-up with Norwich on horizon

Returning from the treatment table after lockdown, Pulisic racked up nine attacking returns in as many games and he has been attractively priced for 2020/21.

Chelsea have some appealing fixtures to start the season but the injured USA international is “touch and go” to be ready, so we may have to bide our time with him initially.

Ziyech, with his dead-ball expertise, trigger-happy shooting and creativity from open play, is an exciting prospect, but we have had many of those from the Eredivisie and there is always the doubt over whether new signings from overseas will immediately settle in the English top tier.

Nevertheless, the momentum behind free-spending Chelsea is growing by the day and many FPL managers will be happy to take a punt on the new arrivals from the off.

You can read much more on Ziyech here in our Scout Report.

Tottenham Hotspur

Tottenham Hotspur have one of the more favourable fixture schedules in the opening eight Gameweeks and how best to tap into it is a question many of us are asking.

Three of the Lilywhites’ midfielders fall into the £7.5m+ bracket this season, namely Son Heung-min (£9.0m), Dele Alli (£8.0m) and Steven Bergwijn (£7.5m).

Right off the bat, we’ll rule Bergwin out: the winger looks poised to share pitch-time with Lucas Moura (£7.0m) down the Spurs right and he only stared three of his side’s nine post-lockdown fixtures, with the Brazilian the more favoured option down that flank.

Alli had originally been a secure starter under Jose Mourinho, making the Spurs head coach’s line-up in 16 of the first 17 Premier League matches he oversaw.

Suspension and injury limited his involvement after lockdown, however, and Giovani Lo Celso (£7.0m) ended the season in Alli’s usual number ten position.

It’s worth keeping an eye on Spurs’ line-ups in pre-season to see if Lo Celso is moved back into a deeper role to accommodate Alli’s return, as the former MK Dons prospect is now available at his cheapest FPL price since 2015/16.

When he was a regular under Mourinho from Gameweks 13-29, Alli registered more ‘big chances’ than any other Premier League midfielder.

Son is where the main interest lies and he is the most-owned Spurs asset in FPL at the time of writing.

Despite his 2019/20 tally of 24 attacking returns being his best since moving to the Premier League, his starting price has dropped half a million from what it was a year ago.

The Korean would have gone close to his 2017/18 total of 178 points had he not missed a penalty and been dismissed twice and he also sat out eight Spurs games through injury or suspension.

Under the Special One, the South Korea international’s points-per-match average rose from to 5.1 to 5.9.

While there are more explosive players out there, Son was remarkably consistent throughout 2019/20: on only one occasion did he make more than two consecutive appearances without registering a goal or assist.

Spurs’ Europa League involvement (they are in continental cup action either side of Gameweeks 1-4) is an obvious caveat, with Harry Kane (£10.5m) the safest route into Mourinho’s attack amid the possible rotation.

The England striker also came out well in our Kane v Son comparison piece, although it’s always worth paying attention to Mourinho’s tactics as Son’s two most-recent double-digit hauls have arrived when playing centrally rather than out on the left.



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1,086 Comments Post a Comment
  1. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Damn Greenwood is a premium

    1. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Cheap premium 😀

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Will be premium if you can afford him as 4th mid 😉

  2. 3 A
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Sorry to interrupt.
    Rmt pliz

    McCarthy
    Trent, Vinagre, Kwp
    Salah, Rashford, Ziyech, Armstrong
    Kane, Werner, Antonio

    Nyland, Soucek, Mitchel, Taylor

    1. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Benching Rash and Taylor in GW1.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Nice set up

    3. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's a good setup and certainly different than most

      But Auba & Bruno could hurt GW1 & GW2. Also Auba is a good placeholder for Sterling/KDB in GW3.

    4. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I like this team with just the exception of Taylor who has a blank GW1.

    5. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Really nice

    6. 3 A
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks all. Cheers 😀

  3. SpagBol
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    What do you think of this latest draft?

    Cheers
    ____________________________________________
    McCarthy
    TAA Dier Vinagre Justin
    Salah Auba Son Armstrong
    Werner Jimenez

    Nyland | Brewster Gordon Taylor
    ____________________________________________

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Template - which is good

    2. EL_FENOMENO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Bruno in mid from gw2 onwards means two starting 4.5 defenders which im not really fond of.

      1. EL_FENOMENO
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Downgrade Jimenez and upgrade Justin IMO

  4. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    1. Who are the best rotating 4.5 defenders?

    2. Which rotating 4.5s do you have in your team?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Lascellas and one of the Palace defender gives SOU, BHA, EVE, BUR, BHA to start with. Taylor and Justin can also work.

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers

    2. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Only on 1 atm which is kWP seems the most nailed and in a decent side with good fixtures avoiding the rest for now

      Robbo, vvd, Saïss, kwp, 4.0

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Wasn’t even relevant to your post

  5. Bart Baryon
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Hi all,

    i've been playing last two seasons without salah but with mané instead, and been quite happy about that. Now both are equally expensive, i'm trying to avoid choosing between them (which will cause me a lot of frustration, i am sure of that

    1. Bart Baryon
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      So i'm looking at different options and might be going without the liverpool premium mids.

      This is currently what i'm thinking of:
      Ryan - Button (could be McCarthy - 4.0 GK)
      VVD - Doherty - KWP - Taylor - 4.0 def (Douglas or Branthwaite probably)
      Auba - Rashford - Son - Ziyech - Soucek
      Werner - Jimmy - Brewster (could be Davis)

      Not specifically trying to double up on Chelsea, so Ziyech could become Grealish or Maddison or... if someone in the 7.0-8.0 bracket sticks out in pre-season or after GW1, Ziyech could also become another Man Utd or Man City player (greenwood, foden).
      First GW would be benching for Rashford, after GW 2, Auba would probably become KDB.

      Flexible enough?
      Lack of Salah/Mané covered well enough throughout the team?

      Thanks for your thoughts!

      1. R.C
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Just 1 Pool when they will be in Top 2 is risky imo

        1. Bart Baryon
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          thinking about upgrading VVD to TAA and Ziyech to 7.0 player to fund that

      2. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Lack of TAA a huge risk

    2. The Suspended One
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No Trent either? Good luck my guy

      I’d pick one of ziyech/Werner personally

  6. R.C
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    With the departure of Doherty to Spurs, does this make Jimenez less attractive now?

    Could Ings be a better option?

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He’ll still be steady.

      It’s a toss up.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A little yes - Doherty provides a lot of the cross for Jim

    3. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Ings over performed last season but his xG over the whole season is still 15

      Jimenez xG is 17 but without Doherty they could be less attacking

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      That's my thinking.

    5. fish&chips
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Wait, when did this happen???

  7. The 12th Man
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    McCarthy/Ryan rotation or Leno/4.0?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Rotation if you must - Leno has some tricky away fixtures early on

  8. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    One week punt?

    A) Mount (bha)
    B) Maddison (wba)

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Is Mount a definite starter?
      If he is then him.
      Both decent.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        For sure yes, he is the continuity from last season’s attack if Pulisic is still out

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mount

    3. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      B, but I think Barnes is the pick.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Against his former club no less - I did think about that but a bit more doubt about his starting place which I can’t really risk

  9. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Have barely tinkered past few days, see even less reason to do so now with all the uncertainty with Messi, Doherty, Wolves etc

    1. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      This uncertainty will continue till GW4

      Will be madness!

  10. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    If Doherty does leave Wolves then Boly would be the standout pick from them.

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not if the wingbacks are 0.5-1m cheaper.

    2. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He would be the standout as the worst pick, yes.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Haha, boly is awesome but not worth the 0.5 over Saïss

  11. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Will you be Tripling or doubling on utd assets or even just getting 1 and seeing from there over the first 3 game weeks ?

    I want 2 and struggling to look past martial and Bruno but greenwood could be great value and I’d like to have jimi up top from gw 3

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Just the one for GW2.

      Hopefully go into GW3 with 2 FTs to make some big moves.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah I think so it also depends how palace are looking injury wise if they were to lose by 2 or more to Southampton it’s be tempting to get 2 in

        1. Karan14
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I've got Werner in that Martial spot. So a double up is possible but let's see how Werner performs in GW1.

    2. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I’m building my team up with those two in mind.
      Will have Bruno on the bench.
      Ings or Lacazette will be a one week punt for Martial in GW2.

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Just Bruno in GW2 for sure. If Werner is being eased in/Chelsea don't look too sharp, I might do Werner > Martial for a 2nd one.

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah it’s an option if you leave a bit in the bank you can have 3 or 4 options

        Son > Bruno
        Salah > bruno
        Werner > martial
        Son > greenwood
        Salah and souceck > bruno and greenwood
        Salah and mitro > bruno and martial

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          I don't want the forced transfer/one week punt so will just start with Bruno on the bench. There are no outstanding one week punts and with this much uncertainty and the fact I will definitely want Bruno GW2, I prefer to just bench him instead.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm trying to keep my options open. The only one who's absolutely nailed is KDB. I'm starting with Salah and Kane as the two most expensive options and with good opening fixtures. It takes 1FT if Kane flops to get Martial, Werner, Kun or anyone. I takes 1FT to switch Salah to Bruno. If I did that, I could also upgrade Greenwood to any Chelsea mid if Greenie flops. The specific personnel and GW is flexible.

        1. Blitzar
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Hi Andy .... I thought u were going with 3 pool defense ?

    4. Stormbringer22
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Going with just Bruno for now for GW2. Have doubled-up on Chelsea assets instead since I have a feeling they will do well in the beginning. If they are not firing the goals, then there are a few ways for me to get a Utd double-up instead.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah that's part of the reason I like those Chelsea guys. Guaranteed ways to switch to MUN.

        Ziyech > Greenwood
        Werner > Martial

        So the uncertainty over them isn't so bad at all when you have that option.

        1. Pedersen
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This is my plan

    5. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Only Martial, I don't like their fixtures. I expect Greenwood and Fernandes will join him after 8 weeks

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeah martial was unstoppable at times but I do get a nasty feeling he could blow cold at any moment

        1. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Why? He played a ton of games last season and was on fire at the end. He's seemed to find a new hunger too. Watching him play towards the end, he was pressing, he was hungry and he has (mostly) elite finishing.

    6. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      My current draft has both Greenwood and Bruno on the bench for GW1 - hoping for the GW1 cost to be repaid quickly, and the double to be a great differential!

      And if it doesn't quite work out points-wise, at least my team looks how I want it for the future

      1. Indpush
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Me too, Greenwood and Bruno on my bench

    7. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Will probably have 0 united or city until GW3 and then decide what to do from there.

  12. Bank$y
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I’m on Mount too

  13. Karan14
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ryan
    TAA Doc Vinagre KWP
    Salah Auba ASM Soucek
    Werner Mitro

    (Button Bruno Johnson 4.5)
    0.0m

    Still not convinced by any other premium asset to move away from this setup.

    Doc to Spurs would give me a Spurs attacking asset that I probably need.

    1. The 12th Man
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      That looks good.
      The 6.5-9m midfield slot is missing. How would you get say Pulisic or Greenwood?

      This is why I’m only going 2 premium midfielders with Son .

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Id like one or two players from that slot no doubt but it's so hard to pick right now.
        Son & Ziyech are not convincing me enough. I think Kane or Werner are by far the better options.

        I'll be able to get one or two players from that slot if I downgrade one of premium assets from GW3 onwards. But some options need to emerge first.

        1. The 12th Man
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          That’s fair.

    2. Blunder fc
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Are you not worried that Doc won't score as heavily at spurs as he'll be playing as a genuine fullback?

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Mourinho used a 3 atb for the first friendly if I'm not wrong. If he's buying Doc I think he might be considering using wing backs this season let see.

  14. Differential C (Mark)
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Comments by Southampton CEO Martin Semmes

    "[Fraser Forster] has always been our player . . .he mad an active decision to come back, he didn't want to play for Celtic anymore, he wanted to play for us and we'll give him that opportunity, so Fraser has taken full part in the squad since he's come back. . . .he's training so we'll see how it develops."

    https://twitter.com/solentsport/status/1298871665930252288

    One to keep an eye on if you're thinking of McCarthy.

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Personally feel KWP is a better option than McCarthy.

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Probably is. Loves to get forward an awful lot and has a decent dribble in him.

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Pssst, unfortunately he is the only decent 4.5 available...

      1. Third Eye Vision
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        If Burnley didn’t have a blank, there’d be a lot more people with Taylor in their team. I’d rather have him than KWP.

        1. Third Eye Vision
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Doh. You’re talking about McCarthy, aren’t you?

          Agreed he’s the best 4.5 keeper.

    3. R.C
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Forster is done, don't see him starting ahead of McCarthy

      1. Differential C (Mark)
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Looked to have gained confidence when he went on loan at Celtic. Always felt the reason for his drop off was a mental issue and not a physical one. Interesting to see who gets the starting position come opening day.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          SPL opposition though.

    4. JELLYFISH
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      This might make my decision to do McCarthy > Leno a bit easier

  15. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks Neale. I appreciate your work. Succinct, evidence-based and easy-to-read. No fluff or opinion.

    By the way, anyone seen Bruno's xAΔ? It's off the scale! Martial and Greenwood look the main culprits for it, do you think they can sustain that level of finishing? This, combined with the inevitable penalty regression, the small sample size, and the dip in form towards the end; all combine to make me sceptical about Bruno's returns this season...

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Penalties are here to stay, they won 9 penalties in 18/10. 14 in 19/20, of course. Dip in form was because of lack of depth, this could definitely continue. He should still get 10 assists, 15 goals and would be a great option at 10.5.

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm not sceptical. I think PKs will go up this year since VAR is being enforced with FIFA protocols. MUN always good for a few, and Bruno also has a history of putting up very impressive goal numbers. He's scoring at a rate better than 0.5g/game. If he plays the full season, I think a 15/15 season is very reasonable which is 220+ points.

    3. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Bruno's PPG was so extreme last season that even a hefty drop off would still leave him being great value.

      I don't think anyone expects him to continue quite as well as last season, but he's definitely gonna be in my team!

    4. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I fully expect Bruno's PPG to drop this season. Remember he joined when they had an easy run of fixtures. Will see if I am proved wrong. Still waiting for his first goal in open play against a top 10 team. I will get him when they play relegation contenders.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        It would be insane if it didn't. He was on course for like 320 points on last season's form.

        If he delivers even just at 70% of that, he'd be pushing 240 which is elite for a 10.5m player.

    5. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Martial might, Greenwood can’t possibly.

      I think Bruno is likely to score 200+ points this season, but people bracketing him with Salah etc for expected returns are in cuckoo land IMO. Could end up out scoring them though, game would be easy if it was that predictable!

      On the pens - don’t know if the VAR changes will make an impact or not. Might impact it the other way too, who knows.

      There are more penalties taken now in general, but the best teams for penalty wins through the years is consistently around 8 with a few anomalies. If I were to put an expected number on united’s pens this season I’d say 9-10, with Rashford taking one.

  16. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Does anyone else feel that if penalties go up this season, they should consider lowering the point value of them?

    I think 3 points for a penalty goal would be quite nice. Would limit the midfielders that take tons and strikers are less affected because they would only lose 1 point for a PK goal vs 2 for a mid.

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Not thought about that. Is the trend upwards?

      My preference would be to even up the cs bonus - either by deleting it for mids or awarding it to forwards! Forwards probably contribute about as much - given most FPL mids are forwards 🙂

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If we see a situation anything near what happened in Italy the season would be pretty insane

      Doubt they'll change anything though, penalties are still goals, just a different type of way to get them. Have they even changed the scoring system in the past 20 years, chips aside?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Bonus points.

        They used to be the most hilarious thing where a panel would award them subjectively. Glad that's changed...

    3. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Why do you feel the number of penalties will go up?

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        VAR to follow FIFA protocols and refs encouraged to use pitch side monitors more.

    4. Tinkermania
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I thought that last season. It needs to be 3 points surely. Would totally like that.

    5. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      3 points for a penalty would be a terrible idea considering you lose 2 points for missing one. I’d probably rather my player didn’t win a penalty at all if that was the risk vs reward

  17. Andy_Social
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    I've worked out an early season captaincy rotation between my 3 most expensive players - Salah, KDB and Kane. You can't know when United will win their penalties, so I'm thinking Bruno as another 10m+ asset is too much. I could downgrade Ings and upgrade Greenwood, but i think that would weaken my squad.

    1. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think the difference between Ings and Adams is a lot smaller than the difference between Greenwood and Bruno

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That's the nub; I don't think I agree with that.

        1. DantheManinaPan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Fair enough

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Thinking the same pretty much

      For me though Salah is there until as and when. He’s not a fixture unless he fires. He could easily become Bruno if United look a better prospect and 1.5 matters

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yeh, that's 'Plan A'. But if Salah is on fire, I'll need an alternative way to get Bruno that doesn't involve giving up Kev.

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          That’s the rub

          But an on fire Mo makes Bruno less “necessary”. I’m also wondering about a good Bruno making a good Greenwood. Also there’s Martial in the equation. He’s a potential captain in my book if United are hit.

          In fact I think I prefer Martial for hot fixtures over Bruno as captain. That’s sort of based on your penalty point. Went Martial over Bruno last time on that basis

          1. Andy_Social
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah, kinda how I'm thinking. But is Martial captain material? Is there any pattern to his hauls that we can spot the right opposition? He seems one of those streaky ones to me.

            1. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Haven’t checked yet - but mean to

              This thinking is just that he’s the one at the pointy end. He’s also decently reliable despite his rather odd reputation.

              Captain Martial may be less desirable I guess as his ceiling drops a bit as a forward not mid maybe

              Treated KdB as emergency C last time when nothing better was on, To my thinking his comparatively lower direct threat isn’t optimal in really prime ones. Sterling/Kun over KdB when it’s really juicy? For every Norwich there’s a Brighton - got burnt by C KdB in a 5-0 🙁

              1. Andy_Social
                • 11 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Raz and Kun haul against inferior defences - when they play. There's always the risk Pep rests them in the easy games. Against tougher defences, Pep is likely to play 2 DMs, eg Gundog and Rodri, pushing Kev further up to unlock defences. I reckon he's a decent captain punt v Wolves and Leicester there.
                I need to see how he rotates this year before I bring in Raz or Kun. I couldn't have them AND Bruno/Tony.

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think you're wrong about Bruno. Loads of people assuming he's just a penalty merchant. He's more than that.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm not thinking that. I'm thinking how to fit him into a squad with Salah, KDB and a premium striker.

    4. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm starting to conclude the same logic.

    5. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Bruno over Kane for me. I prefer him for the armband and he rotates well with Salah & KDB too.

      Pretty sure shifting between Martial, Werner, Jimenez, Ings would outscore Kane.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        I'm starting with Kane for 2 reasons: his opening fixtures, and that I can hop onto any striker with one transfer. It's very possibly I'd quickly hop onto Werner or Martial if Kane looks disappointing. That would enable me to get to Bruno in a couple of GWs.

        1. Karan14
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Fair enough. It's the other way round for me.

          Downgrade one of the premium mids if they flop and upgrade Werner to Kane/Aguero if they look essential.

  18. Blitz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    RMT please

    McCarthy
    Trent-Egan-Dohery-Saliba
    Salah-Auba-Soucek
    Mitrovic-Ings-Jimenez

    subs: Ryan, Foden, Johnson, Bissouma

    1 Million in bank to allow for transfers after GW1

  19. davies
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    If Brewster goes out on loan, would you feel comfortable starting him every week?

    Rotating with Soucek could be a good option...

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      A 4.5m striker? No - I'd start him more often than the other 4.5 options.

    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No

  20. LangerznMash
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Does anyone know Bruno Fernandes' point per match if you remove penalties? Cheers.

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      6.2 PPG

      1. LangerznMash
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks! So Rashford potentially better for a million less. Hmm

        1. Karan14
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          How?

          1. LangerznMash
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            This article has Rashford at 6.4 ppg as a midfielder.

            1. Karan14
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Rashford won't have pens though. He was taking pens till Bruno arrived.

              1. Tinkermania
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                They are still taking turns in the league.

                1. Bald Eagle
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  When it counts most, Bruno takes them, I can only see Rashford take them here and there when they're comfortably leading.

                  1. Tinkermania
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    We will find out. One of the pens he took when match was level.

                    1. Karan14
                      • 7 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      That was because Rashford hadn't scored till then and I think it was Crystal Palace in the first half.

                    2. Bald Eagle
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 6 Years
                      3 years, 7 months ago

                      At the beggining, just right after the restart. He needed a boost, so let's see.

                2. Karan14
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 7 months ago

                  No they aren't. Rashford got only one pen out of 6-7 pens United got till EL.

                  1. Bald Eagle
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 6 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    This.

                  2. Tinkermania
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 7 months ago

                    Okay. He will be on hatricks sometimes when it's awarded this coming season, so likely he takes more.

        2. Camzy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This is correct. Rashford looks incredibly good value on paper. Tempted to go with him.

        3. JELLYFISH
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          This is why I am going with Rashford

    2. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      The interesting question is what is points per match would be if one removed half the penalties.

      1. Karan14
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Around 7.

        1. LangerznMash
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Would you not also assume clubs will have cottoned on to Bruno now and made tactical plans to neutralise him a bit?
          I expect he will have a defensive mid man marking him 24/7 this season.

  21. Arn De Gothia
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    With Spurs fixtures I’m surprised Höjberg isn’t in more RMT:s?

    1. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      People probably don't want a player who will score 2 or 3 points the majority of games.

      1. Arn De Gothia
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        That’s ok for 5 mil, and what can be done with the free cash

    2. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He'd never score more than 3 points. He makes clean sheets more likely, improving defenders' prospects.

      1. Arn De Gothia
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks. Yes, might get a Spur defender more instead then

  22. jb1985
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    If Doherty goes to spurs is it worth downgrading him to a 5.5m defender and upgrade a 4.5m defender?

    1. Stimps
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm keeping

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I think he will almost as valuable at Spurs as he is at Wolves. I'd keep.

    3. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I reckon so

  23. balint84
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Ramsdale
    TAA-KWP-Saliba-Vinagre
    Salah(C)-Auba-Son-St.Max
    Jimmy-Mitro

    bench: Nyland - Dallas-Davis-Foden

    gtg?

  24. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    GK=8.5m
    Def=25.5m
    Milfs=46m
    fwd=19.5m
    bank=0.5m

    should get me to early WC

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      What's the team looking like atm?

      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        😉

        1. Karan14
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          Martial Mitro 4.5 are your forwards for sure 😛

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 7 months ago

            Well done! The rest should be easy then.

            1. Karan14
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 7 months ago

              Defenders
              TAA + 4.5 x 4 or there could be a 5.0 & 4.0

              Midfield is tricky. Salah & Auba definitely. Son + Ziyech + 5.5?

              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 7 months ago

                Dont waste anymore time...

      2. Andy_Social
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Middling?

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Mine

      GK=9.5m
      Def=27m
      Milfs=45m
      fwd=18.5m
      bank=0m

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Still on Loris then - could be smart

    3. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      8.5M
      25.0M
      42.5M
      24M
      0 ITB

  25. LangerznMash
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    For GW3+ is this midfield 4 strong enough?
    KdB, Rashford, Son, Ziyech (4.5) or is £42.5m not enough budget here.

    1. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      It's a great midfield if all of them are firing and Salah + Bruno are blanking and there are no budget mids doing well.

      1. LangerznMash
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Thanks.
        The budget saved by not getting 10m+ mids means you can buy multiple premiums in defence + Werner/Martial.
        541 looks so strong (but the bench is terrible).

    2. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Salah/Mane will cut up Arsenal in little pieces wk 3

  26. Tosa86
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    my draft for FPL

    Pope - (Ryan)
    VVD - Egan - doherty - (douglas - vinagre)
    salah - auba - zaha- ziyech (stephens)
    antonio - brewster - werner

    any suggestion?

    1. Blitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Looks good, although heavy investment in GK.

      You can downgrade Pope to McCarthy and use extra 1 million funds to upgrade a midfielder.

  27. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    One of the first posts I made after the prices were released was that Rashford is a great deal.

    If he was a mid last season, he'd have got 200 points and that's after missing a bunch of games before restart. His form was a bit patchy after restart, but his underlying stats are superb.

    He has higher xG and non-penalty xG than Fernandes. 6.21 xGI since restart when he was off form which is 10th best among all players. In terms of non-penalty xG, he has the 4th best among all mids (this season) behind just Salah, Sterling and Aubameyang.

    All indications is that he should cost closer to 10 or 10.5m. A 9.5m player with past 200 point seasons before... Where have we seen that before?

    Now I don't think he'll become the next KdB, but 200 points again is very realistic for Rash.

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Rashy has never scored 200 pts in a season

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        He would have scored 200 last season if he were a mid.

        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 7 months ago

          A 9.5m player with past 200 point seasons before....thats a bit misleading I reckon

    2. King Kohli
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      He scored 6 penalties last season, not sure if he gets to take any this time.

      1. Camzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Did you not read? His non-penalty xG is still sky high up there with Sterling, Salah and Auba.

    3. LangerznMash
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I've had my head turned on this.
      I was always of the opinion 'No pens, no thanks'... but as you say the xG without pens is that of a premium player.
      Plus there is a good chance that he is the one winning the penalty's for Bruno so gets assist points (and no risk of -2 for missing).
      The extra £1.0m you get for Rashford over Bruno goes a long way...

    4. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I guess you are banking on his finishing being better this year, and whether he's worth the extra 2m over Greenwood. Greenwood overachieved after the restart but this may mean he's similar in finishing ability to Auba. I'm favouring Greenwood at the moment, subject to new signings of course. That extra 2m goes a long way.

    5. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      If you watched a lot of the United games after restart you would be a little wary about getting Rashford. Had a couple of great games but didn't look sharp enough in most. Was lacking the finishing touch and sometimes positioned too wide specially alway from home.

      I'd downgrade Bruno to him happily if he looks the real deal. But I'm just not sure right now. Think Martial looked much better and probably a better option to start with.

      1. Ole.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        Yea I agree. Looked much sharper and faster to me before his injury. I'm a bit worried about him, worried about his back, not sure stress fractures ever properly heal. Also, I must have missed his great games, he had one where he assisted martial twice, that was gd.

    6. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      No penalties, poor finishing, below-par form, sits far too wide on the left and drops deep as a playmaker to allow Shaw to push forward, less of a wide forward than a wide midfielder now, Martial/Greenwood/Fernandes all better options and United's fixtures tricky for the first 8. Wait and see.

  28. King Kohli
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Who's the better pick between Dier and Davies?

    Dier has a decent goal threat but I'm not sure he's ahead of Toby or Sanchez for the cb spot. He can also play CDM but again lot of competition for a place there.

    Davies looks to be nailed on at LB but has absolutely zero goal threat.

    1. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      I'm waiting to see if Mou goes 3 or 4 at the back.

    2. Jässi
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      However, Davies has some assist potential in my opinion, like he did a few seasons ago?

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        0 return potential, he's essentially a left centerback in this formation. Tucks in a 3ATB so Doherty/Aurier will go forward.

        Dier is nailed alongside Alderweireld, he looks like the better option thanks to set pieces.

  29. Jässi
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    Which team would you prefer?

    A) 3-5-2 or 4-4-2 depending on fixtures
    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA - Robertson - Vinagre (Dallas - 4.0)
    Aubameyang - Salah - Son - Maddison - Soucek
    Jimenez - Mitrovic (4.5)

    B) 3-4-3 with a weak defence, but strong attack
    McCarthy (Nyland)
    TAA - Vinagre - AWP (Dallas - 4.0)
    Aubameyang - Salah - Son - Maddison (4.5)
    Werner - Mitrovic - Antonio

  30. Emiliano Sala
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 7 months ago

    just noticed both saliba and justing have difficult fixtures gw 3. city and liverpool. that change plans!
    chilwell anyone ?

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      trsfr them out for burnley by then

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 7 months ago

        need to change my placeholders.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 7 months ago

      Chilwell has a beauty in 2