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Monday Dugout Discussion

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Put up your feet, pour yourself another glass of mulled wine and grab that tin of Quality Street. After all it is christmas, and after all we’ve got another match to take in as we round out gameweek nineteen just as soon as it starts.

The Dugout Discussion closes it’s door for no-one and a festive game between Arsenal and Chelsea are no exception. Just nineteen weeks down and Arsene Wenger finally gets to start his two key players – Cesc Fabregas & Robin Van Persie – together for the first time this season, while the likes of Walcott finally get a start after weeks waiting patiently on the bench. Managerial heavyweight Carlo Ancelotti meanwhile gets to start Frank Lampard for the first time since August also. Team sheets in full are…

Arsenal: Fabianski; Sagna, Koscielny, Djourou, Clichy; Song, Fabregas, Wilshere; Walcott, van Persie, Nasri

Chelsea: Cech; Ferreira, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole; Essien, Mikel, Lampard; Kalou, Drogba, Malouda

Come join the festive banter as we all gorge on treats ahoy together and close out the gameweek in the Dugout Discussion.

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  1. Mortinho
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who to drop, Drogs or Rooney? Tevez is coming in.

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    1. BKR
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hey Mortiho, in same dilemma..! Not sure, how good was drogs last day. however, he got 2 home matches. there are enough chances that he will fire in one of them..

      On other hand,

      Tevez has a home game, and he wont perform usually in home matches

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      1. Gregor
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Drop Drogs, United's upcoming fixtures look strong and Rooney is coming into form and is on penalties.

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    2. Snooze ya lose
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Drogs

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  2. duncansarmy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What to do with one transfer? I'm thinking priority is balotelli despite my poor defence. Best suggestion <£8.6m?

    Foster (foster)
    Cole Enrique kalarov (Jones) (stam) 
    Nani Vdv Nasri Etherington (Adam)
    Elmander Balotelli Drogba

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  3. BKR
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    How was Drogs Yesterday???? is it just bad luck, he hasnt scored or he is still struck with fromliaria ??

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    1. BKR
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      TM, its only you there right now to give some reply. There are only questions. 🙂

      Any comments??

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I was going to reply to your questions but the last word in your post told me not to bother. 😛

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    2. Just One More Thing
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Very disappointing - had one chance when things opened up in the first half but in all honesty he really didn't look like scoring.

      Having watched highlights of that West Brom/Bolton game though, I was amazed at how open Bolton were and it could play right to Drogba's strengths.

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  4. EastLeakeTerrier22
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    What is the best transfer to free up money for VDV?

    1) Howard => Begovic

    2) Vidic => Rafael/R. Ferdinand

    3) Etherington => 5.1 mil midfielder

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    1. Linca - TerribleFromKepa
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      1..

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  5. Snooze ya lose
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    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Scout picks please!

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Can't ever remember them on the morning of the deadline, but you never know with Mark 🙂

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        10.30am is my guess but the constant moaning will probably bring them forward.

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  6. Just One More Thing
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Morning all: three questions for me to ponder over the next 3 hours or so:

    Drogba > Tevez?
    Elmander > Torres?
    Cahill > VDV?

    My solitary brain cell is going to have a hammering. Originally - before Tevez and VDV ran riot - I was doing Elmander > Torres & Hangeland > Kolarov?

    Villa are shite away from home but that City home form is nagging at me...

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  7. Aidy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Feel asleep during last nights match, awoke to the 3-1 score line, thought happy days. Arshavin didnt play, RVP 1 point, Nasri 4 (c) GUTTED.

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    1. Aidy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      still half asleep now by the looks of it 🙂

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I see you had a few losing bets.

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2010/12/27/the-captain-poll-gameweek-twenty/comment-page-6/#comment-1212134

          Happy days when you lose a bet?

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          1. Just One More Thing
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Ouch!

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          2. Aidy
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Thats ok, it was money I had already won 🙂 When I get a decent win I always invest it wisely.

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            1. Aidy
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              also had £2 on drogba first goal and chelsea 4-0. I'm not going to bring in one chelsea player this transfer window unless they spend some money.

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            2. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Obviously the money isn't an issue with you. Most here would bet anything like that. At least you weren't chasing other money. 🙂

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                wouldn't bet*

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                1. Aidy
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  It just depends what I bet. I'm working class, but since it was Xmas I did Bolton/MC double for 4/1 which I had 100 on. A lot of times I don't bother, or sometimes I could go up to about £500 depending on how its been going. I generally give it all back though.

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  8. Luke
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    1.Coleman
    2.Barton
    3.Albrighton

    Have I got my sub order right?

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    1. Mak_Gold
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yes.

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      • Just One More Thing
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Looks right to me.

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    2. Mak_Gold
        13 years, 5 months ago

        1 free transfer:Elmander->Carroll or Welbeck??With Carroll,I'll just be joining the crowd,which isn't what is required to overcome massive deficits in my mini-league,particularly in this period with games coming thick and fast.Welbeck will provide a solid differential but is he as consistent as Carroll?Also want to do Salcido/Samba->Rafael/Kolarov/Bosingwa for a 4 pt. hit.Which one should I lose and which one should I get?If I get Carroll and trade Samba instead of Salcido,I can only bring Bosingwa in(budget constraints).With Welbeck,there is no problem.I can bring any of the three.Please help.Really need some advice.Team as it currently stands...

        Foster,
        Samba,Jara,D.Collins,
        Nani,Nasri,VdV(C),Cahill,Barton,
        Drog,Tevez.

        Subs: Krul,Coleman,Elmander,Salcido.(with 0.7 in the bank)

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        1. Luke
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Could you do Samba, Salcido & Elmander --> Rafael, Kolarov & Carroll?

          (not all this week)

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          1. Mak_Gold
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Yes,Elmander->Carroll,Samba->Rafael for -4 this week and Salcido->Kolarov in the next two weeks(to avoid taking a hit next week,or maybe Salcido->Bardsley for free next week).

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              1. Valar(Keith)
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                keep salcido.. in 2 weeks he got good fixtures and a double.. gettin rid of samba should be your priority.. and carroll is a player u can play every game.. cant say the same bout many players below 7 million.. get kolarov in for samba.. sure starter.. and carroll in for elmander.. that's what i'd do anyway.. and then coleman to konchesky next week

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          2. Just One More Thing
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            I'd say Carroll and Bosingwa (although the latter is rotational with Ferreira). Easier games might mean an opportunity for Bosingwa and Ferreira, who did little to enhance his claims last night.

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            1. Aidy
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Bosingwa should really play more games that what he is.

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Jamsiep would disagree with you.

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            2. Mak_Gold
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Yes,I was thinking about the same,mate.But do you think Bos will start against Bolton?That will be Elman->Carroll and Salcido->Bos and persisting with that git Samba for one more week and hoping his situation gets better.Or maybe I can also try Salcido->Konchesky?Not feeling good about that one though,I only sold the Greek for Salcido last week to field a 11-man team.

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            3. part-timepostman
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              In the same position mate. chasing the pack in my mini league.

              I'm waiting to see what my cup opponents team was for last gameweek.

              Wellbeck is the best choice in my opinion

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          3. Valar(Keith)
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            save my transfer and play nzogbia? or do samba to konchesky and play konchesky and bench nzogbia.. team is
            Gordon
            Vidic Kolarov Ivanovic
            Nasri Vdv Nani Nzogbia
            Tevez(c) Drogba Carroll
            subs
            Krul Barton Salcido Samba

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            1. Mak_Gold
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Save transfer coz all of ur 3 defenders can keep cleanies this GW.Plz answer my question,dude.Rather lengthy but need some advice.

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              • Just One More Thing
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Samba to Konchesky and bench N'Zog.

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                1. Valar(Keith)
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  thanks.. though i'm right back where i started now:)

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                  1. Just One More Thing
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    Mak makes a good point - I would be reluctant to go 4 defenders anyway - save your transfer.

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            2. WhoopAss
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Any chance of postponed games this gameweek anyone??

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              1. Just One More Thing
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Nope

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                1. TorresMagic™
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                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Even Wigan vs Arsenal. Dodgy pitch down there.

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                  1. GoatGoat
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    How did fabs return affect Nasri's game. Nasri still worth having?

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                    1. TorresMagic™
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                      • 14 Years
                      13 years, 5 months ago

                      Fabs is out next game so that isn't an issue atm. He had a good game especially in 1st half.

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                      1. GoatGoat
                        • 14 Years
                        13 years, 5 months ago

                        Ah cheers ill hold off on that transfer then. Give Nasri a few more games and see how it goes.

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                  2. Just One More Thing
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    A farmer's field it is TM but I don't see a problem. They always struggle outside the stadium though if they have even moderate falls of snow etc.

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            3. Mizza
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Should I play 4 in defence - Konchesky, Kolarov, Baines and Rafael with 2 up front (Tevez, Wellbeck)

              OR 3 in defence, possibly bench Kolarov and Tevez, Wellbeck, Carroll in front?

              Any advice folks!

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              1. Back to the Drawing Board
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                probably go with 3 in defence

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                1. Mizza
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Would u bench Kolarov out of those 4? I have hart in goal already so would be doubling up on Man City

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            4. duncansarmy
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              A) Balotelli > Carroll
              B) Balotelli > Carroll + PJones > Rafael (4pts)
              C) Balotelli > Berbs + PJones > foley (4pts)

              Foster (foster)
              Cole Enrique kalarov (Jones) (stam) 
              Nani Vdv Nasri Etherington (Adam)
              Elmander Balotelli Drogba

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              1. nedfoo
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                B

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            5. Mr Smith
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Best keeper to bring in for 5m or less, thinking Gordon for the next 5 or 6 games?

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              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Gordon wins hands down.

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                1. Mr Smith
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Thanks TM

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            6. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Hi all,

              Team atm

              Foster Krul
              Konchesky Kolarov Rafael Coleman Givet
              Nani Nasri VDV Bale Barton
              Drogba Tevez Elmander

              1 free left, 2.1 in bank

              Some options are

              a) Krul to Gordon
              b) Givet to Bardsley
              c) Bale to someone up to 9 million
              d) leave it & have 2 trades next GW?

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              1. Valar(Keith)
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                krul to gordon.. ur defense is good for now apart from him

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                1. Mizza
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  I would do Givet to Bardsley personally. Blackburn don't have good fixtures now and Sunderland seem really solid in defence.

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              2. Mr Smith
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                You gave same GK dilemma as me so I will go with option A

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              3. Aidy
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                (b) G TO B.

                (c) Cannot see anyone who stands out for the extra millions.

                (d) I would get rid of drogba now tbh, and that would probably free up some funds for Gerrard/Fab.

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                1. TorresMagic™
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                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Thanks Aidy, I suss it out in a few hours.

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            7. Back to the Drawing Board
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              is Kyrgiakos likely to start or will agger take his place?

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              1. Aidy
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                I would say Kyrgiakos will start, and if anything Agger will get 15-20 minutes. He surely wouldn't put him directly in as hasn't played in ages.

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            8. Valar(Keith)
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              how's the weather like? in india so have no idea about whether matches gonna be cancelled or not

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              1. Anti-Ipswich
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Apparently no games are in doubt. That's only early news though

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                1. Mr Smith
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  I'm currently visiting family in the midlands and although it's still mighty cold it's nothing like a couple days ago, don't think there is any danger of games being called off today

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            9. Anti-Ipswich
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Morning all. Here's my starting XI for this week:
              Carson
              Ferdinand Bardsley Kolarov Salcido
              Bale Cesc Nani
              Drogba (c) Piquionne Tevez
              Subs: Krul Gohouri Albrighton Adam

              I've got one free trade and 1.8 in the bank. Should I save it up or should I do Bale->VDV or Piquionne->Wellbeck now? Thanks in advance

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              1. duncansarmy
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Piqi > Carroll?

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                1. Anti-Ipswich
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Doesn't go down with the rest of the trades I plan to do with the wildcard. Means I go over the budget.

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            10. PanTanti
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              im gonna create another team starting with GW20 just for fun, can u help me out and post the team u would love to have at the moment. 🙂

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            11. Snooze ya lose
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Captain choice is a right bugger this week. Armband is with Tevez at the mo, but he generally doesnt do well at home. Is VDV the better option?

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              1. Anti-Ipswich
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                I'm going with Drogba. Tevez was tempting but he never does well at home. Plus I normally don't like the idea of your captain being in the first game of the week. Apparently Bolton were playing a very open game this week and could mean Drogba could tear them apart. VDV might be good though.

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            12. tim
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              need to pick 3 or 4... but who ???

              konchensky shawcross rafael bardsley samba

              CHEERS !

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              1. Mizza
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                konchesky, rafael, bardsley!

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              2. Just One More Thing
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                First three

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              3. Snooze ya lose
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Konch, raf, bards and shawcross if u need a 4th

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                1. tim
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  CHEERS !

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            13. Do not be late, Pedro
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Hi All,

              My current team is

              Robinson
              Elmohamady Hangeland Rafael
              Cahill Nasri Bale Nani
              Drogba Tevez Elmander

              Subs: Myhill Foley Huth Ferguson

              Have two free transfers, both WCs and 0.6 in bank. Any recommendations? Am thinking of
              Bale->VDV
              Drogba->?

              Thanks.

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              1. Just One More Thing
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Bale > VDV and Elmander > Carroll? Coming round to thinking that Drogba may be worth perservering with for 2 gws at least.

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                1. Do not be late, Pedro
                  • 13 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Two home games for Drogba is tempting... I transfered Elmander in for Carroll (looks like a mistake now) so might be chasing the points though it is certainly worth considering. Thanks.

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              2. moss
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                I'd keep Drogba. Hard to ditch anyone with his next two fixtures. Though, you could get Torres. Maybe look to get Elmander out...

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                1. moss
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Youre going to have to get rid of Cahill in the next few days, so make sure you have a replacement lined up, and don't just go Cahill->Bale if you go Bale->VdV :p

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            14. moss
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Robbo
              Rafael Konchesky Kolarov Baines
              Nani VdV Dunn
              Drog (c) Tevez Elmander

              (Foster; Jarvis, Simpson, Nolan)
              Elmander->Welbeck the "obvious" sub in my eyes, any other ideas?

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              1. njfsdkffslkf
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Sell Dunn, Drogba.

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              2. Anti-Ipswich
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Dunn has to be bailed out. How much money do you have?

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                1. moss
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  2m in bank, so 8.2 if I take Dunn out. Was thinking of swapping him for Adam next week, just looked at Elmanders fixtures and almost cried.

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                  1. Anti-Ipswich
                    • 13 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    Maybe downgrade Nolan if he's not going to play to Albrighton or Tchoyi. That frees up enough cash for you to do Dunn->VDV and Elmander to Wellbeck or someone more expensive

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                    1. moss
                      • 14 Years
                      13 years, 5 months ago

                      Cheers will take a look, though I already have VdV.

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              3. encored
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                not really..not many people have drog now n he might be the man in the the next coupla weeks..u might consider having vdv as ur captain

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            15. PaukkuKO
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              My team looks atm like:

              Gordon

              Kyrgiakos, Bosingwa, Kolarov,

              Nani, Bale, VDV, Nasri, MGP

              Carroll, Tevez (C)

              Bench: Foster, Elmander, Simpson, Foley

              already got VDV in. No free transfers. Still 5.9 in the bank. What u think about my team and what to do next?

              a) Upgrade defence? Maybe rafael in?
              b) Midfield? bale/nasri -> Cesc?
              c) Elmander out for berba/torres?

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              1. PaukkuKO
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                C'mon. Any comments?

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            16. Jinswick
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              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Ok guys, quick poll - I have one free transfer this week...which is best:

              a) Fabs -> Gerrard
              b) Elmander -> Piquionne
              c) No transfer
              d) Something else (please suggest)

              Thanks!

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              1. encored
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                get welback in for elmander...Fabs-gerrard doesn make much sense as Fab played really well last night..

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            17. Just One More Thing
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Gents - pick a letter:

              A - Drogba > Tevez; Elmander > Torres; Cahill > VDV (4 pt hit)?

              B - Elmander > Torres & Hangeland to Kolarov (leave Cahill & Drogba in).

              C - Drogba > Tevez; Elmander > Torres; Hangeland to Kolarov (4 pt hit)(leave Cahill in)?

              Cheers.

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              1. njfsdkffslkf
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                c

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              2. Mr. Greedy
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                B for now.

                Drogba has got a juicy home game and Cahill is playing West Ham. Everton play well away so I would want him this week defo.

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              3. moss
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Looking at the percentages, Drog is most likely player to score in this GW. I like to keep him in that case... I like option B... Could you not do Elma->Torres, Cahill->VDV

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                1. Just One More Thing
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  I could do Elma > Torres & Cahill > Vdv. That's option D 🙂

                  Big mistakes last gw - not getting Tevez and VDV and putting in Hangeland for Samba (when I was tempted with Kolarov.

                  Thanks lads.

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              4. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Has to be A for me although losing Drogba might hurt.

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                1. Just One More Thing
                  • 14 Years
                  13 years, 5 months ago

                  Nothing like a consensus of opinion 🙂 Back to the drawing board.

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                  1. njfsdkffslkf
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    sorry i meant A 🙂
                    Never saw VDV 🙂

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                  2. moss
                    • 14 Years
                    13 years, 5 months ago

                    What about Option E, Varney? 😀

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            18. Alonso14
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              So, of all the torres and tevez owners, who to captain!!!?

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                VDV

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              2. Mr. Greedy
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                VDV then Torres then Nasri then Tevez imo.

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            19. defTouch85
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Should I make any changes this GW? Either click my link or:

              Foster / Schwarzer

              Vidic / A Cole / Givet / Foley / Simpson

              Nani / Cahill / Dempsey / N'Zogbia / Gamst Pedersen

              Torres / Tevez / Carroll

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              1. defTouch85
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                I have 0.2 in the bank, I have had Cole and Carroll since forever, so I'm averse to transferring them out.

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            20. Jinswick
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              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Quick poll

              a) Fabs -> Gerrard
              b) Elmander -> Piquionne
              c) No transfer

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              1. defTouch85
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                C

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              2. SierraDelta
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                c

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            21. Jinswick
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              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              best striker out there for next 3 weeks who is 6.3m or less?

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              1. 4vets
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                Wellbeck?

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