Dugout Discussion

Monday Dugout Discussion

Let’s just say that our expectations are “moderate” at best. The clash between West Ham and Stoke is perhaps not everyone’s idea of a Gameweek finale, particularly after a glut of goals thus far. Even so, despite the likely war of attrition at Upton Park, we could yet be in line for a few spills, although in all likelihood, a 0-0 scoreline will be the result of choice for many Fantasy managers backing the mid-price defensive assets on show tonight.

Whatever we’re dealt, our Dugout Discussion Chatroom is open to those wishing to indulge in some real-time activity.

The news from East London finds two changes in the West Ham lineup with Yossi Benayoun and Matt Jarvis dropping out of the starting XI after picking up knocks in the win at Newcastle last time out. Their places go to Gary O’Neil and Modibo Maiga. Interestingly, Sam Allardyce also opts to keep James Collins on the bench, retaining James Tomkins alongside Winston Reid in his defence. George McCartney and Joey O’Brien are the full-backs again, leaving Guy Demel benched.

Stoke are unchanged, with Glenn Whelan passing a fitness test on a hamstring problem sustained whilst on international duty. Both Charlie Adam and Jon Walters have also overcome knocks to figure in Tony Pulis’ starting XI. Matt Etherington starts against his former club, then, with Michael Kightly again benched.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Demel on da bench isn't making me happy....

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      75pts already and you want more ? 😉

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      1. Syd.
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Yes... I freely admit that I am a greedy bugger 😉

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  2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Sky Sports confirm Kagawa out for a further month due to knee injury

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    1. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Was he ever in 😆

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    2. Yes Don
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Defo time for me to get rid then

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  3. Jonjo
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Come on Stoke! REALLY need another clean sheet out of you tonight. Bego, Shawcross AND Geoff Cameron all playing in my team this GW!!!

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    1. Conrad.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      WHOA.

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    2. Red Devil Swede
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      That's some pretty serious gambling there. Be happy for you if it pays off.

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      1. Jonjo
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        'Fortune smiles on the brave' mate....or maybe it's just stupidity? Guess we'll find out now. EEK! I'm scared.

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  4. d452
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Guys Please help with below…

    Begovic, Tremmel
    Rafael, Gorkss, Cameron, McCartney, Cuellar
    Mata, Cazorla, Fellaini, Michu, Maloney
    RVP, Tevez, Ba

    2 FT. 0.0m in Bank. Please select 1 or 2 of the below? Want to find some money for future defensive/Ba upgrade...

    A) Fellaini –> Johnson (will have 0.5m left over)
    B) Cazorla –> Walcott (will have 0.5m left over)
    C) Maloney --> Puncheon (will have 0.6m left over)
    D) Other? Please suggest!!!!

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  5. r0nh
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    6th!!!!!

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  6. Corrigan
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Biggest FPL surprise package this season?

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    1. Demí
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Sterling maybe

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        this and I still going up in value and form

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        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Given he is 17 though, and nobody would've ever predicted him to be thrust into the limelight so soon and starting week in week out.

          Then again.... the other option was Downing so it's probably not too much of a surprise.

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      2. Pratik
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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    2. r0nh
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      My crap rank!!!!

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    3. Syd.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Me doing shit

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Everton's great start ... or West Ham's!!! 😀

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      1. Wild Rover
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Soory I can't wish you luck as I only have Bego... I'm sure you understand...

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        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
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          I second this 😉

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          Bah!!! 😀

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      2. Demí
        • 13 Years
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        Doing a disservice to Clarke and West Brom there Doosra.. who i believe are ahead of Everton and your lot!

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          No - that was expected! 😀

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          1. Demí
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Your GW 1 team disagrees .. 😉

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              They were starting from mid-table ... 😕

              Everton had had 3 or 4 bad starts on the trot ...

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      3. Conrad.
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        agreed on both accounts.

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    5. heartsattack
      • 12 Years
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      Suarez. I honestly expected the woodwork to be battered for another season.

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    6. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I would say Michu, kinda sort of but I've had him since day 1.

      Actually, I would say a WHM defender or maybe Maculey.

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    7. Jonjo
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Jussi Jaaskelainen. Complete rubbish for Bolton last season but has really turned it around now.

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    8. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Norwich's defence Lazarus like recovery. Lazarus was a mighty man but he couldn't make super saves like John Ruddy!

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      1. Jonjo
        • 12 Years
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        Yeah, Ruddy for sure as well. His point haul this week sickened me.

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  7. tm245
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Am looking for a Pog replacement and can get 5.2m to spend on a 3rd striker -- is Weimann the most nailed on for that price? Any other super budget options to consider? And yes, if I could do it over again I would have spent more up front and enjoyed the midprice 5th midfield abundance that exists. Thanks.

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    1. OrmskirkFC
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Le Fondre has the best points per minute played of any striker, and Reading does have the double gameweek coming up. But nailed on? Absolutely not.

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      1. tm245
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks for the quick response -- got sidetracked by work. Le Fondre would be my top choice but would be worried about rotation.

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  8. Wild Rover
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    It takes gut's to apologise for being Fake Demi... Nice one Hoby..

    Oh wait, who is Hoby? Surely you are Marr? 🙄

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    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      indeed he wasnt cute enough to change grave 😉

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      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        *grav

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  9. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    how do you pronounce ‘Demel”?

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    1. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Benched

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        😀

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
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        serious anwser!

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
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          Demél.

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          1. Portuguese&Proud
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            i believe it's Démel

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      3. emperikal
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        😆

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Guy.

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    3. shermanater
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      gee duh-mel

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  10. Syd.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Will tonight be the night that Mr Carroll breaks his duck....

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    1. Evs
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      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I don't even know he owned a duck.

      What's its name? Donald? Daffy? Ed?

      That's all the ducks I know...

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      1. JT's Dog
          11 years, 5 months ago

          you've never met the count?

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          1. Evs
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Oh yes, but technically he's a Duckula. That's different 😉

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            1. Wild Rover
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              What about the English cricketer... Outfra Duck?

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              1. Evs
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                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                If he's playing cricket for England surely he must be of South African origin 😉 ?

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        • Syd.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Well a lot of people did say that he was a mickey mouse footballer 😉

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    2. OrmskirkFC
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Cameron, Nolan, and Walters playing for me. I'll take a 0-0, or a slew of Nolan goals. Since I'm going to be watching it, let's have the latter.

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      1. Ragin Cajun
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        In that case, West Ham to score for sure!

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    3. Mr Sarcastic
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Is Puncheon now good option for 5th mid?
      Would love to have Sterling, but he seems bit expensive for my team value.

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      1. r0nh
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        He could have scored 10 goals at the weekend.

        But, was that just a one-off game?

        He only scored one all season & hasnt played that many minutes...

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    4. Perchinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Without looking at Wikipedia, how tall do you think Andy Carroll is?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        6'6".

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        1. Spike ⚽️
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          6'6" and weighs 249 😉

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      2. heartsattack
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        6 foot 3

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      3. Tatty Bojangles
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        6'3" ?

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      4. Syd.
        • 14 Years
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        4ft 28"

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      5. emperikal
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        6'4 is my guess

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      6. r0nh
        • 12 Years
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        6 4

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      7. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        6ft 4 (in heels)

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      8. Somalion
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Well your average thoroughbred is about 64 inches in height so 5 foot 4 I say.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Donkeys are smaller ... 😉

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          1. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Oh damn you got me there! I was sure this video I had of him was a horse, silly old me 😉 http://www.regretfulmorning.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/horse.gif

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              😆 Says it all, really ... 😉

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              1. Somalion
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                😀 Trying really hard to land myself a professional contract but the skills are just so far beyond my grasp, I just can't get all four of my legs on the ball at the same time!

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      9. Evs
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        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        What's the answer then chump ?

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        1. Perchinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
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          A shade over 6ft 3, the same size as me, not as tall as your average football pundit makes him out to be.

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          1. Evs
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            • 14 Years
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            Thanks, I thought it was a quiz then with no answer 🙂

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          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            • 14 Years
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            Errr ... 1.91 m

            That makes 6' 5" and some more ...

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            1. Evs
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              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              See, metric system. No good 🙂

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            2. Somalion
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              So perhaps the reason pundits make him out to be taller than 6'3 is because he is? 😆

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            3. Perchinho
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              What?

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    5. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Demel to Wilkinson on the cards.. dont mind that 5th yellow either

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      1. Ragin Cajun
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Not wise

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    6. drughi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      i think we will see the rise of adam and carroll tonight. 2-2 and both to be heavily involved

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      1. emperikal
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Rather see their demise and a gorgeous 0-0 thank you very much 😉

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    7. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Marca in Spain reporting Falcao on the verge of agreeing to come to premier league

      Manchester City, Chelsea and Manchester United have all been involved in enquiries but Marca revealed a club outside the top 3 has also enquired recently and that club is Spurs

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      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Spurs can do all the enquiring they like, there is NO WAY they will land him.

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        1. JT's Dog
            11 years, 5 months ago

            yeah they said that about livermore, how wrong were they then

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        2. heartsattack
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          He won't be going to Spurs. Why would he?

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        3. Wild Rover
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          He agreed to join them all? 🙄

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        4. Scroobius Mac
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          If we (Spurs) sign Falcao I will eat all my limbs.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Buggumarked. 😉

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          2. Somalion
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            I'll eat my own head.

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          3. Spike ⚽️
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            so will I 😉

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        5. Evs
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          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          OMG

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          1. heartsattack
            • 12 Years
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            Indeed 🙂

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        6. drughi
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          he will go to chelsea for sure

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        7. Locarno
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Yes, one of the most sought-after strikers in the world will ignore those first three clubs and go to White Hart Lane.

          Sigh.

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          1. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Don't forget he already played (well) under AVB. It's a huge possibility!!

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      2. Crazy Joe
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Oh good, Demel on the bench, got Huth coming on for him if he doesn't play, should be an interesting match for me with Crouch aswell.

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      3. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        West Ham 0 - 1 Stoke - Half Time
        West Ham 2 - 1 Stoke - Full Time

        @ 45/1

        You heard it here first!!!

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        1. heartsattack
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Very tough game to call. Good luck.

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          1. Smurf
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks.

            Yep very tough to call. Will more likely be a 0-0, 1-1 or 1-0.

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      4. Wolfram Ingot
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Another terrible terrible week. Falling further and further behind; I think a wildcard is necessary.

        CURRENT:

        FEDERICI - Jasskelainen

        HANGELAND - FOX - WILSON - BAINES - Nelsen

        NOBLE - Hazard - Bale - Michu - Fellaini

        LAMBERT - RVP - BERBATOV

        WILDCARD:

        RUDDY - Jaaskelainen

        SHOREY - MCCARTNEY - CUELLAR - ENRIQUE - Nelsen

        CAZORLA - Hazard - Bale - Michu - Fellaini

        TEVEZ - SUAREZ - LONG

        I feel that RVP isn't worth his 13.6 tag (although admittedly he is a beast), but I think there is just better value elsewhere. I reckon all the points are with the front 8, so going with a cheap D, maximising my Mids and Forwards - thoughts?

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        1. Mulder
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          LOL

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        2. JT's Dog
            11 years, 5 months ago

            RVP has good fixtures coming up, bad time to sell. Yes he will play so no need for anyone to "what about rotation" in your meaningless little voice

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        3. Tatty Bojangles
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Demel 1pt super sub incoming 🙂

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          1. Evs
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            • 14 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            ^^^^ yep

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            1. Tatty Bojangles
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              Clynes 5pts would have been handy as well 🙁

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              1. Evs
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                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                And, errr Gunters, errr 2 pts for me.

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        4. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Just watched match of the day.

          Amazing how far forward Enrique was for Liverpool.

          Basically played as a striker

          Worth a place in ur team?

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          1. The3rdTurd
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            only if he stays OOP

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          2. JT's Dog
              11 years, 5 months ago

              wait and see if it is regular position, mention earlier he was filling in for sussi or someone who got injured in warm up

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              1. megatronaldinho
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                sussi q.. who?

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                1. JT's Dog
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    cant remember who it was, all liverpool players look the same

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                    1. athreya
                      • 11 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Suso?

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                    2. megatronaldinho
                      • 13 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      ha. practically. they have two distinct character types tho. the shaven headed neo nazi types and the swarthy brunettes. all of whom are covered in tattoos.

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            • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              Ok Mark Hughes getting sacked is not good for RVP owners

              Harry Redknapp and new manager could do wonders for QPR and give them new energy v utd.

              What do you think

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              1. Tatty Bojangles
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Derp.

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              2. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                I think you just took a random pick of words and got lucky they made a sentence.

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                1. Locarno
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  🙂

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              3. heartsattack
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                I think QPR can't be fixed, or even temporarily repaired in a few days.

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              4. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  seriously why don't you change your name and grav and stop taking so much abuse on here

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                • The3rdTurd
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  RvP said to Sky Sports earlier today that by way of apology to those who (c)'d him against Norwich, he will be scoring a hattrick against QPR this weekend.

                  Well he does score when he wants.

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                • athreya
                  • 11 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  United losing previous match is not good news for QPR. Fergie will have them fired up. RvP, Rooney, Valencia, Rafael take your pick. It will be points fest at OT.

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                  1. Nomar
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Absolutely.

                    Half our team don't even want to play for the club. I fear Utd could get double figures if they really want to.

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              5. In Like Flynn.
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                • 13 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Kightly bench again. I thought he was first choice?

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                1. Evs
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                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Yes, behind Etherington it seems...

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                2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  Not any more ...

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                3. Somalion
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  So did I, know am extremely glad I didn't bring him in.

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                  1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Me too. 🙁

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                    1. Somalion
                      • 14 Years
                      11 years, 5 months ago

                      Such a shame, I thought that even at Wolves he looked very good. Back to the drawing board!! Hmmmmm I like the looks of this Boselli chap 😉

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                  2. Somalion
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    *now

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              6. Syd.
                • 14 Years
                11 years, 5 months ago

                Dinner beckons 🙂

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                1. heartsattack
                  • 12 Years
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  But you might miss...yeah go have your dinner.

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                  1. Twisted Saltergater
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    😆

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              7. JT's Dog
                  11 years, 5 months ago

                  cant help but sway to bubbles singing at hammers

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                  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                    • 14 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    michael jacksons monkey bubbles?

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                    1. JT's Dog
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        there you go, keep trying and you will get a joke out sooner or later

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                      • megatronaldinho
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        chimps are apes. not monkeys. you're clearly a qualified primatologist

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                  2. athreya
                    • 11 Years
                    11 years, 5 months ago

                    Fellaini -> Adam Johnson for the next 4 GWs. Will bring in Fellaini after the City game for Mata.

                    Sounds like a plan or the rambling of a sleep deprived person?

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                    1. JT's Dog
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        got to ask yourself what would scooby doo?

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                        1. athreya
                          • 11 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Ok (grabs coat and leaves).

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                          1. JT's Dog
                              11 years, 5 months ago

                              why do you have leaves next to your coat.
                              i'm here all week, i thank you

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                      • Canadian Football
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        Good Luck to your Hammers Doos....pulling you you guys.

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                        1. Somalion
                          • 14 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          I'm not, I wish them nothing but woe. Or at the most a 0-0 draw. 😀

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                          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                            • 14 Years
                            11 years, 5 months ago

                            Go feck yourself. 😉

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                            1. Somalion
                              • 14 Years
                              11 years, 5 months ago

                              Beats watching this match anyway 😉

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                        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 14 Years
                          11 years, 5 months ago

                          Cheers, mate. 🙂

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                      • heartsattack
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        This is gonna be bloody awful.

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                      • kimoo
                        • 12 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        demel in subs ???

                        may be get in ?

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                      • don parcheesi
                        • 13 Years
                        11 years, 5 months ago

                        First 5 touches: long ball, return long ball, header, header, foul... Repeat...

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                        1. JT's Dog
                            11 years, 5 months ago

                            sky sports have brought in there 200 foot crane for cameraman to avoid getting hit with ball

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