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The Burning Question – Would Bale’s Departure Make Van Persie Essential?

Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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  1. Heels_Over_Head
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Sagna was reported by a Frenchie to have picked up a knock in int'ls...
    time will tell, but Jenkinson bandwagon got a little mojo

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    1. MooseKens
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I would be happy as a clam if Jenkinson would reliably start before Sagna.

      I'm still half-pissed at myself for not jumping on that bandwagon last season when the time was right.

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  2. FredrikH
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Which Chelsea defender for GW1? Getting rid after.

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    1. Doctor X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ivan or Cole.

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      1. FredrikH
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        On Ivan atm. Ty.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ivan (maverick pick) and Cole (dullard pick) are the popular choices here.

      I'm going Terry since Luiz is reported to be injured. Massive goal threat and should play at OT. Getting rid for NEW def after.

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  3. The Mousa is Loosa
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Still trying to sort the midfield out, can't settle on a 4.5 to rotate with Kim. Barkley is looking like a prospect but I've already got Mirallas and Coleman for cover, any suggestions?

    Migs Harper
    Coleman Turner Rat Chester Brayford
    Walcott Hazard Mirallas Kim Thomas
    RVP Soldado Lukaku

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    1. Birdman Transfer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Pozuelo isn't nailed on by any means, but he shows promise and Swansea/Cardiff is an ideal rotation.

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      1. The Mousa is Loosa
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I'll look into him. What are the chances he becomes a regular starter?

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        1. Birdman Transfer
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          He shares a natural position with Michu, so he'd have to prove himself on the wings, to become a regular starter this season (barring the distant possibility that Arsenal swoop in and buy Michu). Otherwise, he's young, and it would seem the club is grooming him as a Michu replacement down the road, so he may have some super-sub potential this year.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Ravel Morrison if he gets the gametime, although not the perfect rotation.

      Not liking your D, sorry.

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      1. The Mousa is Loosa
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Why's that?

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I know it's the effect of having RVP in your team. But 2 4.0 players, not sold on Coleman (despite his OOP potential) and Rat's unproven status are my issues. I might be wrong.

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          1. The Mousa is Loosa
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Well I had Collins, but his injury steered me towards Rat. Coleman seems to be a calculated risk. The two 4.0's will probably end up being bench fodder. Appreciate your opinion though

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    3. MooseKens
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Pozuelo(SWA) is a name I've heard banded about as having a chance to make an impact with Swansea.

      And your nick is awesome.

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  4. Kerrazy
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    good to see nowadays or this time of the year it's a no more deadzone !

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    1. FPL Daniel
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      there still is

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  5. Scoredelario
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    People saying pick lukaku over cech because of his higher points ceiling... this is true but the replacement striker also has a higher points ceiling. In my case I've got Sturridge over lukaku.

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    1. MikeyMitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Cech guaranteed to start both games- 12 pts and saves. Lukaku will probably only play part of one game, Cech smarter choice

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      1. Kerrazy
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        10 years, 9 months ago

        lol youre so confident. 😆

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      2. SC not pearls before swine
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        You're taking it as a given Chelsea will keep two clean sheets. It's definitely possible, but I think the most likely scenario is one. And none is a possibility.

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    2. Kerrazy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      replacement striker? sorry i dont follow.

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      1. DietCoke
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        He is referring to the potential points of the striker that would replace Lukaku.

        Example: Though Lukaku may score three goals and thus get 15 points (3 points for playing 120 minutes), Soldado may just as well score two himself, with a score of 10 points. Thus the benefit is 15-10 or 5 points.

        With Cech, he's starting both games (4 points) and has a really good chance at at least one clean sheet, with two being the max. That's 12 points + saves (which he probably won't get many).

        Any other keeper might get 7 points (playing + CS + 3 saves). That means the benefit is 12 - 7 or 5 points.

        In other words, it doesn't matter.

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        1. Kerrazy
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          yeah odds in keeping a clean sheet is better than scoring a goal you say? hm. atleast the likes of Lukaku, could get ATLEAST an assist, what would Cech get if he doesn't keep a cleanie out of the 2 games? it takes only a goal you know..

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          1. DietCoke
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Home to Hull will be a clean sheet. I fancy Benteke to ruin Cech's second clean sheet.

            However, I don't see Lukaku getting more than two goals, a feat that any of my current starting three can also achieve.

            So really, it doesn't matter. I think the real perk of a Chelsea defender/keeper is that you can bench him for the blank. Investing in forwards and midfielders means you've got to transfer them out or take a hit GW3.

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Yeah, true, but you also have to consider the replacement goalkeeper. Say Mignolet, who is a million cheaper than Cech, at home against an impotent Stoke. That's a good chance at 6 points so if Cech only keeps one clean sheet, or even none, your marignal gains are minimal. There's also the fact that Mig/Lukaku is two million cheaper than Cech/Sturridge. but you're right, it's not as simple as comparing Lukaku/Cech, but it's not as simple as comparing the strikers,

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Need two rotating 4.5m Mids

    Cheers

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    1. MikeyMitz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Why do you have a team that requires 2 4.5m mids?

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        RVP, Benteke, Lukaku at front.

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      2. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        must be stacking forwards and backline. There's more than the whole stack the mid strategy

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        1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Yup

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    2. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Good luck with that. You really need to stretch to 5.0m to make it worthwhile imo

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Kim? Dont really rate him over R morrison

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        1. TexanRed
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Well I can only say that you are wrong sadly! Morrison will not get the game time that some are predicting. Nolan will nail back down his usual position once the season starts.

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    3. The Team Principal
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I honestly can't see two regularly playing £4.5m mids, if you can find the extra budget then consider Tonev and a risk of Ravel Morrison. I urge you to find a little more money.

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  7. yanky
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    why do i have a cheeky feeling that oscar will outscore lukaku? 😛

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      you sir are right! 😉

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        babyyyyy!!! 😀

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    2. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think it will depend on Mourinho more than anything

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  8. Fchildress
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Down to 2 final cover decisions I can't seem to make a final decision on:
    a) Coutinho and Giroud
    b) Sturridge and Walcott
    c) Coutinho and Walcott

    Thanks in advance

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    1. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C
      mostly because its what I have :p

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    2. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm glad that I don't have to make that decision 🙂

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  9. 808Shadow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Any think there's gong to be any other big names coming to the Premier league before the window closes?

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    1. best11s
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B or C go with the gut

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    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Arsenal & ManU fans sure hope so, likely shall be disappointed

      Pepe to ManC still in the cards

      Still rooting for the Rooney/Bale swap between ManU & Spurs for kicks

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    3. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Liverpool will still make a marquee attacking mid signing and I would be surprised if Man U didn't sign a mid and Chelsea and Arsenal a forward.

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      1. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        If only we would get rid of Henderson!

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    4. gravless
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think the biggest name likely to come will be Hadziabdicomorolovaraminskitaldo, the new wonderkid from Lazio.

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      1. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Not a well kown fact; thats actually my brother

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    5. Licky
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Most definitely.

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    6. 808Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Dzeko needs to go to a club where he can shine and more importantly get minutes

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  10. Roshan
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Mignolet

    Zabaleta Mertesacker Luiz

    Coutinho Hazard Walcott Mirallas

    Benteke Lukaku Dzeko

    subs : Davis(gk) Thomas Turner Parr

    any improvement needed frnds?

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    1. best11s
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      nice team, doubts over luiz and lukaku game time but solid. Not sure about subs

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      1. Phil10
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        agreed when it comes to Luiz. You may want to go with Ivan. Personally still holding back on Dzeko even thought I would very strongly consider him if he was more nailed on. Nice team though. May want to change Davis to a less popular gk so if many people get rid of him he wont drop your team value early on.

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    2. Horizontal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Parr not fit yet so has lost his place to Moxey which may only be temporary but makes him doubtful for the first couple of gameweeks.
      Hopefully that's M. Turner.
      Got the impression from someone that Thomas is a doubt but it may just be Chinese whispers as happens a lot here.

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  11. white heart pain
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    RMT first time this year!

    Mignolet
    Coleman Toure brayford
    Coutinho Walcott hazard barkley
    RVP benteke lukaku

    Harper, Cheter, Parr, Kim

    What do you guys think?

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    1. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Who's Barkley and why is he starting over Kim?

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      1. 808Shadow
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Charles Barkley is a retired basketball player but he is still better than Kim Jong since he is overweight and more importantly korean, which is why he's starting

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      2. white heart pain
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        The everyone kid they are 'building' around.

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        1. white heart pain
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          The everton kid they are building a team around for the future.

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    2. deadpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Downgrade Coutinho to Zaha and upgrade your defense, then switch Benteke for Sturridge after GW1.

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      1. white heart pain
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Will zaha get games? Has to fight with some talent to get a spot.
        My def is weak but if have RVP you need to sacrifice somewhere, don't you?

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        1. Dredged up Mastodon
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          That's one of the best teams I have seen. 9 the same as me. I wouldn't downgrade Coutinho as suggested above

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  12. yanky
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Migs Boruc
    Zaba Terry ___ Chester Ward
    Coutinho ___ Hazard Mirallas Kim
    Soldad ___ Dzeko

    a) Coleman + Giroud + Oscar
    b) Coleman + Lambert + Walcott
    c) 4.5def(?) + Walcott + Lukaku (will be Lambert gw2)

    Cheers all, please help im driving myself crazy!!

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    1. MooseKens
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Terry is a risk, but I really wish he wasn't.

      And personally I'd go with option c), with possibly Turner as your defender.

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      1. yanky
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        thanks. yeah im debating between terry zaba and lescott ivan

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    2. gravless
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Option A.

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    3. Horizontal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'd go with c) because you have two pricey defenders already, so finding a cheapo to rotate with Ward and Chester makes sense.
      Why choose Boruc with Migs? Marshall covers Migs' tough fixtures better for 5.0.

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      1. Horizontal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        *for 4.5, I meant.

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      2. yanky
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        boruc and marshall are both 4.5. is it true that marshall rotates with migs better than boruc does? i didnt think so last i checked but i could be wrong...

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    4. threesticks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      C

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  13. tw
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    foster boruc
    toure coleman mturner collins clyne
    hazard walcott oscar mirallas kim
    soldado lukaku benteke
    .5

    might be sticking with this lot (at least for gw 1)....

    thoughts?

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      lukaku -> aspas
      coleman -> terry/ivan

      plan to wc after gw1?

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    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      TW, i like it.

      Personally not sold on Lukaku but we are all different which is good.

      Guessing you have a plan for Lukaku and Oscar after the double?

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      1. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Sekolah Aminuddin Baki ?

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    3. demonbecks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      wow that's the exact same lineup I have (except I have Thomas instead of Kim)

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      1. demonbecks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        oops spoke too soon. Also Chester instead of Clyne, Coutinho instead of Oscar.

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    4. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I think you can make Collins into Chester - saves money, Collins seems not nailed on now, and you have other four non 4.0 defenders.
      Also, you have serious gw2 and gw3 issues... Maybe benteke to Sturridge?

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    5. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Not sure if you should get both Coleman & Mirallas.

      Oscar has been in and out of my team. Think it'd be easier to upgrade to do Oscar > Silva in GW2, but you also have lukaku & benteke so it depends on your transfers' priority with the FT.

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  14. CaTriEm
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Day 46 of The Transfer Window:

    Gustavo has chosen Wolfsburg over us. Another target missed.

    Wenger doesn't seem to understand that Suarez is going nowhere, at least not to another English Club.

    Yaya Sanogo remains Arsenal's only signing. Approximately 20-25 players have left the club, though Wenger is quoted as saying that he's glad he hasn't lost anyone yet.

    Tottenham continue to assemble a formidable squad and look better than us even if Bale leaves.

    Wenger has promised big things so it will all be OK. He's scraped us into CL for the last 5 years now when everyone said he wouldn't. Everything is going to be OK. I'm not worried at all...

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    1. Phil10
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Hey at least your in the CL. I just hope Tottenham make it this year 🙂

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    2. Kerrazy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      naw let him chase blindly. Suarez is going nowhere it seems. hahaha. #coys

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    3. Kerrazy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      As we speak, another signing for Spurs. second rated player just behind Ibrahimovich in Ligue 1. Etienne Capoue ! #coys #thfc

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  15. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Ok
    Finally
    Team completed. Unless someone can poke a serious hole,this is how it's going to look like:

    Cech, boruc
    Koscielny, toure, turner (nor), Chester, brayford
    Hazard wallcot mirallas Nolan Morrison (WBA)
    Soldado Sturridge lukaku

    Thoughts?

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    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Solid. I dont normally like to spend any cash on my 5th mid (5 at most) as they will normally be benched.
      Are you planning to rotate Nolan and Morrison? If so it seems a little wasteful to bench 7m.

      Just my opinion but everyone plays different, good luck

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Misty Morrison, but he has great gw1 and gw3 fixtures which will help as gw3 I will be short.
        Lukaku will probably become lambert after gw1, hazard likely to become silva after gw2 and Nolan likely to become kagawa after gw3.

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        1. Lord Flashheart
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          *mostly

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          1. Colonel Klink
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            And what about Cech?

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  16. Joggers Nipple
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hoping i have hit the deadest part of the DZ

    Any input on this lot- (im getting towards very happy)

    Boruc/ Mannone
    A Cole/ Ward/ Chester/ Coleman/ Collins
    Hazard/ Coutinio/ Nolan/Snod/ Kim/
    RVP/ Lambert/ Giroud.

    Plans-

    Cole to Mert and maybe Giroud to Soldado

    GK's- only concern over Mannone over Westwood
    Def- Collins to Turner if injured? Maybe Newc 4.5? Coleman could become Toure?
    Mid- No Walcott or Man City, happy to wait on Man C.
    Forwards- Yes i have to have RVP. Lambert could be come Dzeko?

    Any input/ changes/ abuse?????

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    1. best11s
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      nice team, good risks and not template. RVP really affects your defence though.

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      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Agreed. I am an RVP addict so will end up

        Mert every week

        Collins or Coleman every week

        Hull or Palace every week

        Not ideal but have always played cheap defence. Thanks for input

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    2. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Play Boruc, as his fixtures are good enough for the start. I've heard Westwood will start GW1.

      Coleman -> Toure definitely
      Collins -> Yanga for those juicy GW 2-5 fixtures

      I fancy Walcott to outperform Coutinho. I'd wait on City for now.

      Keep Lambert. Dzeko is a bit of a waste.

      For what it's worth, if I made an RVP team, it'd be structured similarly to yours.

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      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers diet.

        I am flipping on Toure and Coleman. Coleman does roate well with West Ham. One thing i keep remembering is that Toure (real life) isnt very good!

        No Walcott is scaring me. Agree on Lambert.

        May start with Collins and shift quick to a nailed on 4.5 Newc def.

        Thanks mate for input

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  17. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    A) Lukaku and Thomas
    or
    B) Anelka and a 7.0 mid (HBA for example)

    I also have Hazard and Ivanovic if it helps

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  18. Birdman Transfer
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Just curious, how many of you DZers are in N/S. America or Asia where now is a reasonable time to be awake, and who among you are deranged Europeans/Africans who should probably get some rest?

    California here (that 3:30 am team deadline is rough).

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    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Thailand...10am

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      1. Joggers Nipple
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Same Jebus. Down in Samui

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    2. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'm in the east coast.

      It's nice, because I can wake up and enjoy breakfast while watching the PL games.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        nz 3pm

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      2. Horizontal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Deranged European, but retired so I can go to bed whenever the hell I decide to. 🙂

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        1. bmb100
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Hey Horizontal how is the team for the new season shaping up?

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      3. NovaHammer
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Nova Scotia here, same same.

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    3. threesticks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Miami (2315)

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    4. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Florida

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    5. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Malaysia..11.30am

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      1. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        sek kito, raya mana ?

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Taiping + Setapak.

          how bout you, Spurs fan? 😉

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    6. The Team Principal
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Scotland (04:42) Cannot sleep

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    7. Pepereina Pizza
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Minnesota

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  19. Pigvig
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    So putting the finishing to my team. Which of the below would youse rather have?:

    A: Anelka & Michu

    B: Sturridge & Morrison

    C: Dzeko & Mirallas

    I'm Oscelotting wildly on this one.

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      B is WBA Morrison? I think I like that one. C also a good choice, if you're willing to step into the ManCity striker rotation headache.

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    3. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Studge and Mirallas

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      1. Pigvig
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Too expensive i'm afraid.

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    4. DietCoke
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Anelka and Dzeko aren't worth the striker slot.

      Michu's fixtures put me off as well.

      If I were you, I'd do Mirallas + Lambert.

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    5. threesticks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Give me letter C Pigvig for the win

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  20. superstarshah
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Please RMT

    Boruc
    Jagielka, Mertersecker, Toure
    Hazard , Walcott, Mata, Silva, Paulinhio
    Lukaku, Aspas

    Bench - Springthrope, Turner, Moore, Whittaker

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    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      nice midfield

      no sold on Aspas

      very dodgy bench

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      1. superstarshah
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Who would you have instead of Aspas?

        and thats all i could afford with my remaining money for bench players haha!

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        1. Jebus Saves
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Can you downgrade Jag to Coleman or Alcraz and then get Lambert or Berbs?

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        2. Nasshole85
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Downgrade Paulinho to Snoddy, and upgrade Aspas to Lambert maybe?

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    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Paulinio downgrade and upgrade Aspas. Who is Springthorpe?

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      1. Nasshole85
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        4.0 goalie with low ownership. 3rd string Everton

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      2. superstarshah
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Hi, downgrade paulinhio to who?
        and upgrade aspas to who?

        Springthrope is a reserve keeper

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        1. Jebus Saves
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I'm keeping Paulinho....with Bale out he has massive potential.

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        2. Joggers Nipple
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          Paulinio to Kim
          Jags to Coleman
          Aspas to Soldado.

          Done

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          1. superstarshah
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 9 months ago

            Who's Kim?

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            1. Joggers Nipple
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 9 months ago

              Cardiff mid. Seems to score and assist, plays up behind the striker and looks nailed. Good for your 5th mid at 5.0

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      3. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        coming from a Spurs fan, keep Paulinho is all i could say. differential and more like Lampard type of player, likes to get forward. more like a one goal in every 3-4 games sort of like that player.

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    3. Nasshole85
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Interesting team. Something different. I like everything but the strikers. Having Lukaku and Aspas is too risky. Don't think Moore is nailed on either is he?

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      1. superstarshah
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        who would u have instead? cheers

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  21. Nasshole85
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Coleman, Rat, or another 5.0? I already have Migs, so I don't want Toure.

    Also, is there a better 5.5 mid than Jarvis?

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    1. A Defender's Nightmare
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Is Jarvis' starts are still fully secured now that Downing has arrived?

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      1. Horizontal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Jarvis plays on the left wing and Downing on the right.
        So, no.

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    2. Pepereina Pizza
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      bellamy is 5.5, will play every match

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  22. A Defender's Nightmare
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    My fellow Indians,
    Happy Independence day 🙂

    Good morning everyone 🙂

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      9am there?

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  23. @Team Shark FC
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Team Completed:

    Mignolet Lewis

    Cole Koscielny Toure Brayford Chester

    Walcott Hazard Coutinho Mirallas Kim

    Soldado Dzeko Lukaku

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Like it a lot

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      1. Nasshole85
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        I see a lot of people going with Mig/Toure. Generally I don't double up on defense. Is everyone just thinking Toure is good value? What about Rat or Coleman at that price?

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Same front 8. Our team is pretty standard over here:(

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    3. @Team Shark FC
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      which keeper rotate well with Mig? given 4.0m to spend

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  24. Les Bleus
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Repost:
    A) Lukaku and Thomas
    or
    B) Anelka and a 7.0 mid (HBA for example)

    I also have Hazard and Ivanovic if it helps

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Anelka and nolan

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      A. but get 0.5 elsewhere to upgrade Thomas to Kim.

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  25. @Team Shark FC
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Mert or koscielny to get more gametime?

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    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      I'd go for Mert.

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    2. Tabone
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      id say merts abit more gauranteed to get more game

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    3. Billy Ketsu
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Mert, I'd say. He's the only Arse defender who doesn't seem horrendously injury-prone.

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    4. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Both will be nailed during Verm's injury and then despite thinking Mert is ahead now I suspect if there is any rotation it will come down to form at the time.

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      1. @Team Shark FC
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        thanks guys! ill go with Mert then..

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        1. TexanRed
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          I should say though that I am going with Kos for a better attacking potential, its a coin flip though.

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  26. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Whats the verdict on Livermore as the 4.5 mid, surely by GW3 he will be getting enough gametime to justify his inclusion , it not like there any better alternatives , right?

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    1. Kerrazy
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Lucas? nailed on.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Why would he get enough gametime? I thought he's very much down in the pecking order.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Hes gone to Hull for a seasons loan

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          missed that, thanks for the info. Still think the midfield spots are too valuable to play rotation and Kim is the best 5th mid option.

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      2. A Defender's Nightmare
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        On loan to Hull!

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    3. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Morrison from WH seems popular now..

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        great potential + pre-season but sadly Downing will steal his gametime + points.

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    4. TexanRed
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      There really isn't too much around and certainly nothing that would excite me outside of Barkley injuries/transfers permitting.

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  27. Tabone
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    please join my leagues.. just created them.

    head to head : 788568-384077

    Classic : 788568-384325

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  28. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    whats the situation with Bale for week one, is he playing?

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    1. Jebus Saves
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      injured.

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      1. Nice to Finally Michu
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        do we really believe that or is he just holding out?

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    2. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Think no. he has played no pre season and pulled out of Wales game. Recon the 'injury' is a fake but still not fit to start imo. He will leave.

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      1. Kerrazy
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        Sekolah Aminuddin Baki ?

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 9 months ago

          😯 i know that school.

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      2. Dredged up Mastodon
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 9 months ago

        You reckon the injury is fake? Is that based on Sky Sports sources? The Sun? Daily Star?

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  29. Jebus Saves
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    Highest score GW1?

    Benteke
    Lukaku
    Giroud

    ?

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    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 9 months ago

      Total guess-
      Benteke- 10
      Lukaku 10
      Giroud 8

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  30. @Team Shark FC
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 9 months ago

    any head to head leagues code? i wanna join..

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