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The Burning Question – Would Bale’s Departure Make Van Persie Essential?

Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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  1. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    morning lads

    yesterday i created ,,beat FORCA if you can'' league

    code: 241-383153

    if you think that you stand any chanse please join

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No chanse 🙁

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        😆

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      2. Locker
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Timely article. I've a comparison request. I've crunched the numbers but I'm looking for some human feedback.

        Van Persie, Anelka, Boateng
        Price: £24
        Pts: 441.6
        Value: 60.8

        Gerrad, Berbatov, Lambert
        Price: £24
        Pts: 435.9
        Value: 55.1

        The numbers say the rvp group is superior. However, All three players in group b are the free,corner,penalty kick takers for their respective teams and should get plenty of minutes.

        Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Why are all reply fails targeted at Salma tonight?

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          1. Locker
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's because it's my first comment and the REPLY button is in the place where every other system puts the POST button so I hit it by accident before I saw the POST COMMENT on the bottom.

            My fault but it seems, based on your comment, it happens all the time.

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    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You need to prove yourself against Christina first for me to take you seriously.

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      1. tw
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        😆

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      2. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        christina try beat me twice but he/she was owned in both acassions

        he is reason why i made his league at first place

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    3. Grounderz
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      10 years, 10 months ago

      Challenge accepted. 😛

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    4. Grounderz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Matt needs to see this.

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        oh,person who trying copy me so badly

        after christina he is my 2nd biggest rival

        but in reallity he sucks 😉

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        1. Grounderz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Smart move from him. He used your template and leapfrogged you in ranking. Conclusion, you were owned by your own team. 😆

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      2. Matt
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        why do i need to see this?

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        1. Grounderz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Hahaha, shyte! I meant last year's champion! Not you. :blush:

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          1. Matt
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            haha that's fine, didn't think it was me anyway haha

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  2. yanky
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I am .5 short of this team, what do i do?

    Migs Boruc
    Terry Zaba Chester Ward Coleman
    Walcott Coutinho Mirallas Hazard Kim
    Lukaku Dzeko Soldado

    a) Boruc > 4.0 bencher
    b) Migs > Foster
    c) Coleman > Clyne/Turner

    Need to prioritze having liverpool def covered, southampton def covered (i think they will be tight this year especially with wanyama) and coleman who is def and OOP. all they options could hit the ground running and I could miss the rise in value.
    my thinking with those options is that i dont want to touch my mids and gw2 i will do lukaku > lambert

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A or C, both decent options.

      Mig has decent fixtures so you wouldn't need to play Boruc too often

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    2. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Coleman to murner

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    3. ManofKent
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Migs>Foster Coleman> Toure?

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  3. FWTbaletrolls
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Repost

    Hazard walcott mirallas kim sondgrass

    Have 3 mil in bank.Any suggestion?

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    1. Touré De Force
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mirallas > Coutinhio/Silva/Touré/someone good. Expecting a serious disappointment from the Mirallas bandwagon.

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Same here. Torn between Mirallas/Nolan/Snod, but i don't think he'll ever be a massive fail given form and that slight OOP.

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        1. FWTbaletrolls
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Agreed

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      2. FWTbaletrolls
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        m expecting alot from mirallas.should I change sondgrass ?

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  4. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Now that i have purged myself of RvP. Does Soldado, Benteke and RvW seem to cavalier?

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Don't fancy RvW myself, other two look good

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    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No but have a look at Wolf first before picking him. Gir or Studge are better picks imo.

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  5. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on my team, please?

    Foster Boruc
    Terry Toure Lescott Murner Burner
    Hazard Walcott Coutinho Mirallas Kim
    Dzeko Lukaku Soldado

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    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Potentially an excellent team.

      Pretty similar to mine.
      Not a fan of Les but has the fix. Would prefer the certainty of Giroud to Jecko.

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Cheers Jafa!

        Not a fan here too, but fix and goal threat win it for me.

        Nothing in the bank to get giru. Walcott is in and i'll gamble with Dzeko atm.

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      nice team. pretty similar to mine. though i'd prefer downgrading one of lescott/terry in order to upgrade dzeko to benteke/sturridge

      and if you downgrade terry then maybe get oscar for coutinho

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks mate. Another one calling it 'pretty similar'.

        A Liverpool attacker is needed and i'm basically torn between Cout and Studge actually, but since Cout is definitely playing in the hole, more match-fit and scores an extra point for goals, i think i'm getting the midfielder and hopefuly Studge won't explode.

        Lescott & Terry are my differentials + goal threats from the back. I think i'll keep them for now.

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  6. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    my team is set up

    hurry up fpl

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  7. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Dzeko and Altidore. Sky don't seem interested in showing the goals so I found them myself on one page if anyone wants to see them.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1738144-usa-vs-bosnia-herzegovina-score-grades-and-post-match-reaction

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    1. Thick Of It
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      What a free kick by Altidore, great goal. Cheers PF

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    2. Javra
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks for this PinkFish, really useful stuff.

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  8. Thick Of It
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    A different RMT

    Szczesny/ Stekelenberg

    Terry/Lescott/Mert/Turner/Clyne

    Lampard/Michu/Walcott/Ben Arfa/Yaya

    Lambert/Berba/Altidore

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      10/10 for posting a RMT which is actually different to everyone else!

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    2. TokyoRed 東京赤
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Needs more template

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  9. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    good to go?

    Ming , 4.0

    Toure , Kosh , Terry , Brayford , Cheaster

    Hazard , Walcott , Lampard , Mirallas , 4.5

    Soldado , Sturridge , Giroud

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Terry is a risk but a good shout, lampard is too big of a risk IMO

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        dont wanna change my 3 stikers so lampard is only dgw punt

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        1. Lord Flashheart
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Oscar?

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          1. Lord Flashheart
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Sponsor it by making mirallas into Nolan.

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    2. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I need to delete a league to join yours. Remind me tomorrow.

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Why you awake so early?

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      1. Jafalad
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Uh oh 😕

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      2. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        cause i went in bed early

        i was tired

        did you join to my league?

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    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'd prefer Foster + Boruc combo to Migs + 4.0, especially if you;re set on Toure.

      Great team overall. If only you can do Lamps to Oscar, then it's a deadly one.

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    5. Grounderz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A double up on Liverpool's defence? You seem pretty confident with Liverpool this season. 😀

      In fact, a triple up on Pool players! 😮

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  10. Twelve years a slave
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Cech (Boruc)

    Turner (nor) Toure Coleman ( Brayford Chester)

    Hazard (C) Walcott Courtinho Marallas ( Livermore )

    Benteke Lulaku Soldado

    Two changes since yesterday
    Decided if i was going to spend 5 on a defender then Coleman made more sense
    than Rat. More attacking , improving ten years younger etc
    And Livermore now on loan to hull , by GW3 should be plying regularly

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      It will be interesting to see where Livermore plays. Won't he play deeper behind Koren?

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        No idea

        One thing fr sure , i wont be leaving many points on the bench

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    2. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Haha...you're tinkering is worse than mine, Triggs! 😉

      Cech doesn't do it for me but is a guaranteed starter. Good team all round though.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Main reason i want cech is i dont yet know what cheap keeper i want. It will give me time to see whats happening at sunderland , keeper wise

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          And whether Adrian starts in goal for West Ham, Doos has backed him.

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        2. Twelve years a slave
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          and Vorm could be a good option by then too

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I'm going with Boruc and Vorm from the start. Boruc to play for the first few weeks whilst Swansea get the harder fixtures out of the way. And then throughout the season Swansea and Southampton rotate not home and away, but with decent-ish fixtures. And I also think Swansea are going to excel this season

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    3. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      This is the exact team I had up until yesterday

      So I'll give it a 9/10

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    4. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Very similar to mine. Just waiting Collins news friday.

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      1. Christina.
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        So you going with my advice on team A of yours?

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        1. Acquafresca
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yep, still on team A. But prefer Boruc as 2nd keeper, until another cheap keeper emerges (Mannone/Westwood/Adrian)

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    5. Mr Sarcastic
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'll have that defence for gw1 after downgrading che defender - not happy with it!
      Seems to me that midfield and forwards are so easy to pick this year (for start), but I just can't get keepers & defenders so that I would be pleased with it.

      I tought about that keeper combo, but can't find good way out of it (cech).
      If I remember right, you are planning wc after gw3, so I suppose you will carry cech until then?

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  11. New Ghost
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    For all the Gooners in the building:

    Yesterday: Uruguayan journo Martin Charquero reported that Suarez is staying at Liverpool. The pair allegedly spoke. However, the same journo stated that Suarez was close to joining Arsenal 3 weeks ago.

    Today: Suarez categorically denied making such a statement to Charquero.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/10242933/Luis-Suarez-denies-saying-he-will-remain-at-Liverpool-next-season-as-questions-over-his-Anfield-future-remain.html

    Arsenal are set to make a final bid of 50M tomorrow for Suarez, if reports are to be believed.

    Also, Alan Brazil of Talksport is reporting that Arsenal are already in talks with Rooney's people (seems that Shrek is Plan B). United are adamant not to sell to Chelsea and would rather sell to the Gunners because they perceive Chelsea to be the bigger threat. Rooney to Arsenal actually makes more sense due to the presence of his 3 Lions mates at the club - Jack, Theo, and Ox. Is Arsenal willing to pay 250k a week for the services of Rooney? We shall see.

    Luiz Gustavo has a presser tomorrow where he plans to announce his new club. It's either Wolfsburg or Arsenal - Wolfsburg looks to be in the lead.

    The Gunners are currently hunting for a new RB since Wenger plans to play Sagna as a backup CB while Verm is out; the reported targets are Corchia (Sochaux), Uchida (Schalke), and Jung (Frankfurt).

    On the GK front, it looks like nobody will be coming in. Martinez was promoted to the 1st team to be the 3rd GK.

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    1. Thick Of It
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      So Kos making way for Sagna (if he is fit)? Interesting update

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yes it is bizarre. Surely Mertisacker and Kos are nailed on ahead of Verm anyway with Sagna as injury cover. I'm surprised Arsenal are looking to send Jenkinson out on loan as well. I would have thought he would be perfectly adequate RB cover.

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      2. CaTriEm
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        What? No! 😆 BACK-UP CB!

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      3. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Highly unlikely unless Mert/Kos get injured, fatigued, or suspended. Plus Wenger's hunt for an RB may have more to do with the fact that Sagna hasn't extended his contract yet.

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Juiiiiiiiiiiiiceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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      1. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Where's Abhishek? 😀

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Such a lazer.....doubt he even clicked that link Isacki sent him!

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    3. Javra
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sagna at CB is utter nonsense. The only one breaking the Mertesaker - Koscielny pairing will be Vermaelen when he's fit again.

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      1. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Guess you didn't watch the Arsenal-Sunderland game last season where Bac played at CB and dominated.

        Sagna started at CB during preseason as well. Wenger's been testing it already.

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        1. Javra
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Wenger was playing Sagna at CB when both Koscielny and Vermaelen were out injured.

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    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hey there Mr. Owner, long time no see.

      Just get me Suarez or Rooney - i just can't stand a lousy yet unproductive summer.

      I thought Sagna is injured? That's what i've been reading from this forum.

      Why no love for Julio Cesar? I thought he was all set on UCL football + London lifestyle 🙁

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      1. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Heard that Bac got a knock in today's friendly.

        Julio is demanding 80-90k a week in wages. Wenger isn't paying that much for a GK. You know how he rolls. 😆

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        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Damn Wenger, i thought by removing the deadwoods, the wage issue is gone already. Unless hes eyeing Rooney. 😉

          Sad that we can't get JC. His form at the Confeds Cup was more than enough to prove his worth. Wenger should know that any Title-winning side has a top-notch, reliable keeper between the stands. Now we can only hope that Szczesny matures well 🙁

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          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            *sticks.

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    5. BeachBadger
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If rumours are to be believed, Arsenal are also looking at Dzeko. Now there would be a Fantasy bargain 7.5 million, great striker at a big name club. Alas, rumours are rumours and this one looks highly unlikely.

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      1. New Ghost
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah heard about that. Also saw a report saying that Michu was being targeted. Yeesh.

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      2. Javra
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Unlikely indeed. That will also ruin both Dzeko and Giroud's FPL prospects this season. Would be great for Arsenal mind you.

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  12. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    @Jafaness

    That was one of my biggest dilemmas - Lukaku or Lamps

    2 reasons why i went Lamps over Luk

    1) Lamps could potentially start both games, Luk will start one game at max

    2) As you very well know, solid strikers at the start of the season bring points. With so many good options, not sure I'd want to waste my striker spot on a punt.

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    1. Jafalad
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      1. I just don't see it, I'm afraid. Lamps will rotated to high heaven.

      2. Luk may come on as a sub and do his thang. Can be high impact.

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I think the Lukaku love on here is a bit over the top Jafa

        - Lamps can only be rotated with MvG and is first choice
        - Luk is 2nd/3rd choice with competition from 2 other relatively established strikers

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Lamps, MvG, Ramires, Mikel, Essien all vying for the same spots innit?

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    2. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hey dude-iño... 😀

      I still haven't decided between Lamps, Lukaku and Oscar to go along with Hazard and Cole...

      I even made a team with Mata as my 3rd Chelsea player on a hunch... and I might just stick with this one and downgrade to Mirallas in GW2...

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        ZEPPERS!

        Hazard and Cole are solid options. The other 3 all reasonable punts, really depends what you can do with the rest of your budget / slots

        Mata is a no entry zone for the mo with his fitness issues bud.

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Okily dokily, thanks for the update...

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  13. King Nemanja
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Had a little tinker there, and ended up with triple Man City in defence. Someone want to convince me this is a bad idea?

    Eggs in baskets, I know, but they should return 2 clean sheets within the first 3 weeks, and I plan to WC then

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    1. CaTriEm
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Person who did it last year enjoyed great success.

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      1. Just A Hat
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        That was me 😀

        It helped me from 800k to 90k in like 3 months so I approve this idea

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        1. King Nemanja
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Seriously considering it. I don't know if I could handle it once they concede though

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If you're happy with the rest of your team, it sounds okay. But spending a minimum of 17.5 on three defenders is a bit rich for me, especially when you don't know when Richards/Kolarov are going to get a start. Also if a Dzeko/Negredo starts off on fire, you'll have to get rid of one of your defenders to get them in week 3 (Assuming you're wildcarding after week 3). I'd say 2, daring punt, 3, a little over eager.

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    3. drinkup245
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      mind if i ask who the three are?

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  14. Sreehari
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    My team..

    ------------Boruc------------------------Foster--------------

    Brayford---Ivanovic----M.Turner----Toure---Mbiwa

    Hazard---Walcott--Coutinho---Mirallas---Morrison(WBA)

    ---------Altidore------------Lukaku-----------Soldado----

    Any Advices?

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Altidore meh, Morrison meh. Meh players are ok though, they are differentials.

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      1. Javra
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'm keeping an eye on Altidore meh this season, He may turn out to do great things for Sunderland. 7mil as well.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Quite possibly, one to watch for sure, although I'm not sure what will happen when Fletcher returns.

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          1. Javra
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            4-4-2 I believe, I get the feeling Di Canio isn't Sessesegnon's biggest fan.

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              You're right on that front. It wouldn't surprise me to see Sess sold before the transfer window closes.

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    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Who are you benching?

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      1. Sreehari
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        good question.. still to make up my mind on Altidore/Morrison.

        But now I'm thinking its better to have a Middie for GW 2 instead of Morrison.

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  15. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I suppose it would be a conflict of interest for FFS to go into to much detail, but I cannot help but spill the beans. I have recently been given the opportunity to write for not 1 but TWO fantasy websites. Both are based in the states. The PL has officially gained steam in the US. NBC is broadcasting weekly games for the first time on their flagship network this season. American fantasy sport websites are beginning to add the Premier League to their content, and my foot is in the door to make a modest living off writing about fantasy sports.

    Glorious

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Niiiice!

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        cheers!

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You took up both the offers?

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        one actually referred me to the other!

        Im a free agent ENR 😉

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Fuzzy still got his ting boys! 😉

          Link me up when it materialized. I'd be interested to read 'em!

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Actually need to write a column up before morning on the US east coast. Supposed to be basic strategy for noobs. With it being a new department and all, I will probably be writing columns that would insult your intelligence.

            But my name will be in lights, albeit my real name. But I will always be Fuzzy in these parts.

            So whats the bet this year?

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I still pity your readers 😆

              Where do you reside currently? I'm in the sunshine state at the mo.

              How about....top scoring striker in the first 5 GWs? No RVP allowed

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              1. @FuzzyWarbles
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                anyone except RVP? ok. you pick first, i feel like i always picked first before!!

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            2. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Don't give any of our secrets away.

              You can mention my name in your articles.

              If you want to.

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              1. @FuzzyWarbles
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                I will figure out how to shoehorn your name into an article 😉

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    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Now I have seen everything....

      What's next? Mark appointing Forca to do the scoutcasts?

      😕

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        🙂

        It is a mad world, isnt it?

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      2. Javra
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I bet that would sound just like the Borat interviews.

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    4. Billy Ketsu
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Nice one Fuzzy, well done.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        cheers!

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    5. Zep
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hey Fuzzy, how are you man?

      Congrats on the news, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy...

      Don't forget to link us to your work... I. for one, would love to read it...

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        cheers Zep. Good to see you!

        are you on twitter? i feel a bit pensive about posting links to another fantasy site here, could be considered for personal gain, bad for FFS, etc. And I would understand that. But follow me on twitter and I will post a link there. @FuzzyWarbles

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        1. Zep
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Will do, thanks..

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    6. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      that's brilliant mate!!! :D. good luck with it all. hopefully you'll link us to your work

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        thank you TW, see above.

        and again lads, the content I will be providing will be as interesting as Stephen Hawking reading "Physics for Dummies". Please understand my audience will be rather green to this game, at least for this one site Im submitting a column for tomorrow. So dont expect any fascinating insight...yet.

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  16. Porkmeat
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Any Boruc owners out there?

    I don't fancy Boruc/Mannone at all, because I think Sunderland are a strong chance candidate for relegation this season.

    The other alternative is Boruc/Foster, but I feel I may as well go with the 5.5/Davis combo instead.

    I'm actually considering Boruc/Davis, and hedging bets on outscoring the rotating combos, too risky?

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      One thing I do not like about that tactic is that Davis is bound to be sold by loads when they realise he doesn't actually play, so you could lose some value on him

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      im on boruc davis at the moment, but i think only rvp owners can excuse that keeper combo for budget restraints. If you are going RVP, Id consider it. With no starters at 4.0, it only makes sense to get the backup for the one keeper you will start.

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      1. Mr Sarcastic
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        well I'm thinking it altough I don't have Rvp. It also helps getting Rvp in for gw4.
        Still not sure if it's too risky or not.

        Positives are that I don't see clean sheets for liverpool either gw2 or 3, so you should be able to upgrade for Migs later (don't except big price rise).

        But if you get Migs, you don't have to worry about your keeper anymore..

        I was all set for Migs, but since don't want to double on pool defence, I think I'll get Toure instead.

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  17. FORCA INTER
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Lukakau is massivly overrated here

    he shouldn't be is so manny drafts

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      He isn't.

      Lukaku is.

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    2. King Nemanja
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I agree that he is a lot more teams than I expected.

      It is more the fear factor now that is making me want him. Don't want to miss out on a big haul even though I don't think he will get one

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    3. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'm so excited for Lukaku to a differential after the blank. Season keeper for me pending the arrival of Rooney/Big Name Striker X

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    4. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Joined your league.

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    5. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yep its all forum hype unfortunately. It is getting a bit ridiculous. If he plays more than 100 mins over the DGW I will be surprised.

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    6. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Right to name it FFS groupthink Forca, wouldn't say over-rated

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        he is great player , lets say he is overhyped

        he wont be chelsa main striker

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    7. Billy Ketsu
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      What's not to like about Lukaka? Big strong lad, confident, pace and power. He's also very fast. Knows where the goal is. Excellent players all around him, cannon fodder defenders in front of him. Scored a hattrick against United in 14 seconds last year. Definitely worth a punt, I think.

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Might come off the bench in both games. You might be better off taking a punt on a single game week player instead.

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        1. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          but last year he proved that he can be very effective off the bench as well

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  18. Locker
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Timely article. I've a comparison request. I've crunched the numbers but I'm looking for some human feedback.

    Van Persie, Anelka, Boateng
    Price: £24
    Pts: 441.6
    Value: 60.8

    Gerrad, Berbatov, Lambert
    Price: £24
    Pts: 435.9
    Value: 55.1

    The numbers say the rvp group is superior. However, All three players in group b are the free,corner,penalty kick takers for their respective teams and should get plenty of minutes.

    Any thoughts or advice would be most appreciated. Thank you!

    P.S. Apparently I owe Selma Hayek an apology

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  19. Just A Hat
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Any word on a Scoutcast this week?

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    1. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      there isn't one is what i've heard...

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  20. Leftea
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Who are folks rating the best 4.5m Mid now that so many have come up lame?

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    1. Birdman Transfer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ravel Morrison, Barkley, Pozuelo, Livermore...it's punts all the way down.

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  21. yanky
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    is coleman a must?

    a) coleman oscar giroud
    b) mturner walcott lukaku

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B. Murner is currently nailed on & a slight goal threat (by the look of last season), walcott is way much better pick than oscar and lukaku is worth the gamble in DGW1.

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      1. yanky
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        thanks. idk why i keep telling myself coleman is a better pick than turner (ignoring the .5difference in price), i got brainwashed into the cs potential and playing OOP. hell prob return 2pts a game.

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    2. tw
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      B

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  22. thorvaldsson
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    My first try after my post RvP operation.

    Mannone Boruc

    Baines Reid Toure Brayford Parr

    Mirallas Walcott Hazard Coutinho Livermore

    Soldado Benteke RvW

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Add more Chelsea.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Hello

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    2. aussiegooner
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I read RvW as RVP and I thought this was the best - albeit, least possible - team I've ever seen.

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      1. aussiegooner
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        But, yeah, having said that, I like it a lot. I'd consider bringing in a Chelsea defender (maybe in place of Baines? i.e. Ivanovic). Other than that, nice.

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  23. Matt
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else really struggling to get a decent backline?

    I've got Ivan Clyne Murner Yanga Chester, but I'm not settled. Are there any other defenders people are interested in?

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    1. Billy Ketsu
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Zabaleta, Coleman, Toure, Terry, Big Turner.

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    2. FishFingers
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Coleman, Toure, Mertesacker/kosc

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  24. FWTbaletrolls
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Is it possible that jrod gets penalties duties from lambert this time around

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Anything is possible but its not likely.

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  25. Will.I.Am
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Any love for Michel Vorm? He looked great last night against Portugal.

    Nice differential too.

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I would actually have gone Vorm/4.0, if they didn't have Europa.

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Europa is a good point, teams tend to struggle a little more on the defensive front when they are in europe.

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        1. Javra
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Petrolul has been quite a surprising team in the Romanian league during the past 2 seasons. They're evenly matched for that playoff and I think there's a very good chance Swansea won't have to worry about rotating for Europa League.

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    2. Javra
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Once Swansea's fixtures take a turn for the better, sure. (GW6)

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Fixtures are a bit tough, otherwise he would be a good pick. He could possibly rotate will with someone although it would need to be someone a bit more resilient than a promoted team I feel.

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'm going Boruc & Vorm. After the first few weeks they seem to rotate not home and away but with decent-ish fixtures!

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          GW13 is a bit rough and there are a lot of away fixtures. The are relatively easy fixtures though.

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            There's always going to be that one GW which is rough for both keepers. Just hope the attacking side of my team can pull through on those days.

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    4. SC not pearls before swine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I have Vorm/Marshall in goal at the moment. For Wales!

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  26. The Darkest Knight
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Dear ALL,

    1. RVP + $5.5 MF + $4.5 DF + $4.5 DF + $4.0 DF

    or

    2. Giroud + Snodgrass + A.Cole + Kolo + Zableta????????

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Nice gravatar.

      If I stare it long enough it looks like it's turning.

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        A moving gravitar, thats different.

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Look it. I swear it's turning....

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            *Look at it

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I agree with you, its turning alright.

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      3. RVP + 5.0 MF +5.0 DEF + 4.5 DEF + 4.0 DEF + 4.0 DEF

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        epic fail, take out the 4.5 DEF

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  27. hamzilla
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone going both coutinho and Sturridge?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Neither.

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    2. Birdman Transfer
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not initially (just Coutinho for now), but depending on how things shake out after the DGW I very well may.

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  28. OPTA FPL
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Is Mannone nailed on?

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    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Morning ladyguy.

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Afternoon. Are you ready?

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        1. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Oh yes.

          You?

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          1. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            No. Just back at FPL & FFS yesterday 😯

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            1. Christina.
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Ouch.

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        2. Billy Ketsu
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          He's always ready, you should know that.

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Morning you.

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          2. OPTA FPL
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Long time no see Billy

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            1. Billy Ketsu
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Morning / Afternoon guys.

              I'm sick of tinkering and seem to be just going round in circles. I even have a Derek Boateng ( 4.5m defensive mid, Fulham, loves a tackle / yellow card ) in my team right now. What a nightmare. I thought this was supposed to be fun.

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                lol

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              2. OPTA FPL
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                What's your team atm?

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                1. Christina.
                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Rat in the Kitson

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    2. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      RUKAWA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      1. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Newman returns, Fuzzy returns and now....Rukawa to round it up.

        THE DEADZONE WE ALL KNOW

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          ohh hanamichi is the new rukawa? So much to catch up on.

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        2. Christina.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Okey dokey....so I can't even use his real name on here...thanks mods...

          Anyway, one still missing....

          RIP Mr BK.

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          1. Elniñorules
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            I almost forgot that 😆

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          2. Zep
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            He is here in spirit...

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            1. tw
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              knowing him he's actually here, lurking and wishing that he could comment....

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                He is here. Don't you worry...

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        3. tw
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          YESSSSS 😀

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

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        1. Elniñorules
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          How are you guy? Salma missed you.

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Salma make mommy happy cracker funky monkey?

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            1. Elniñorules
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              You no know me guy. Lets ignore together!

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  29. Chef Ramsey
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I have just coined the term Mich2 for whatever player does this season what michu did last season in the PL.
    thoughts?

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    1. Just A Hat
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      nice

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  30. Acquafresca
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Pretty much set on my team, just some last min. decisions based on pressers:

    -Collins+M'Biwa vs. Coleman/Reid+4.0
    -Brayford vs Burner

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