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The Burning Question – Would Bale’s Departure Make Van Persie Essential?

Over the last few months of 2012/13, Gareth Bale’s series of explosive displays had finally afforded Fantasy managers a reliable captaincy alternative to the relentless Robin Van Persie. With a goal or assist in 11 of his final 14 league appearances, the Welshman thrived in a central role behind the lone forward in Andre Villas-Boas’ 4-2-3-1 formation and ended the campaign with 14 sets of double figure hauls, averaging 7.2 points per game in Fantasy Premier League (FPL).

Despite a hefty hike in price across the Fantasy games, Bale was a hugely popular pick when the Player Price Lists were released earlier this summer but with Real Madrid determined to prise him away from the Lane, his ownership has dropped dramatically with only a few days left until the season kicks off. Not only would his departure be a bitter blow to Villas-Boas’ plans for the season ahead, it would also hit Fantasy managers equally hard and leave Van Persie as the standout option in terms of reliability once more.

In our next Burning Question article, we ask a handful of contributors if the Dutchman will be impossible to ignore if Bale legs it to La Liga.

Applebonkers says….
I’m personally without Van Persie as it stands, due to fixture and form concerns more than an issue of price. So on that basis, no. Of course, the great appeal of Van Persie is his ability to score against anyone, but my argument is that a goal in each of the first three matches wouldn’t really hurt a non-owner as it costs 14.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) to acquire the United man.

Braces and hat-tricks are the ones which really punish non-owners, though I’m not sure he has the post-Real Madrid form to trump the opening schedule, with trips to Swansea and Liverpool and a home game versus Chelsea in the first three Gameweeks.

Here’s a stat: since RVP notched three times against Chelsea in 2011, 24 hat-tricks have been scored in the Premier League and only two have come against top half sides (Steven Gerrard v Everton and Romelu Lukaku v United). It’s playing the odds in my opinion, no one is fixture proof, simply various levels of fixture resilience. I have to admit, by Gameweek 4 I’d like him, though.

Andy says….
Coming from the Fantasy manager who went 31 of 38 gameweeks last season without Manchester United and Fantasy Football’s top scorer, and won the Scout Contributor’s league (I will brag while I still can!) in doing so, my answer to this question is probably pretty obvious. To me, the notion of the essential and must-have player is nothing but a fallacy. And that even includes Robin Van Persie.

The Dutch forward is arguably the best player currently plying his trade in the Premier League and will surely earn his crust for whichever Fantasy managers decide to hand over the mammoth price tag he has been handed across the Fantasy games. He’s safe, he’s secure, he’s prolific. He’s not essential though.

I’ve written many words in the past to support this claim but it boils down to the fact that I believe you can find alternative ways to spend your Fantasy budget to equal or greater effect. There’s more inherent “danger” involved in veering away from such Fantasy staples but it doesn’t mean you can’t succeed – a theory my 2012/13 season somehow managed to support.

Essentially, he’s not essential. But if there’s ever a good run of games where I think he’ll be the ideal captain choice, I’ll be the first to invest. Getting that armband choice right – or, more importantly, not getting it wrong when those around you get it right – is one aspect I do place a high priority on.

Tinkerman says…
Bale’s departure would certainly deprive us of an immense Fantasy talent and cause a huge rethink of strategy – especially for those whose draft squads currently rely on the Welshman’s explosive yet consistent returns for their weekly captaincy choice.

That said, I still don’t think Bale leaving necessarily makes Van Persie the only safe captaincy option from the start. Granted, we all know his capabilities but, with a wealth of premium midfielders offering high potential, there are plenty of ways to spend the extra budget you’d save by choosing to overlook the most expensive player in the game.

Managers avoiding Van Persie from the start would, however, leave themselves with a quandary should he prove to be the only reliable and consistent captaincy option after a few weeks. It would mean being forced into either spending points on transfer hits or activating the transfer wildcard early on. The option of initially avoiding Van Persie and bringing him in on a Gameweek 4 wildcard is one that has been discussed much on the boards – at this point, cheaper players who offer strong points potential will no doubt have emerged and will allow us to save money elsewhere in order to free up funds for the Dutchman. Since an early wildcard has proven to be a successful strategy for many managers in recent seasons, I think Bale leaving these shores wouldn’t make owning Van Persie from the start a must.

Ryan says….
The main argument for Van Persie’s essential status is that he would be a nailed-on captaincy option. As this is a new season, however, I am of the opinion that other strong armband candidates will appear as the campaign unfolds. The fact that RVP is so expensive almost compels you to captain him most weeks in order to justify his place in your side. This can act as a mental bias in one’s thought process and brings about a barrier which stops you captaining other potentially stronger options. I think it is best not to be shackled to the Dutchman and be more flexible in your armband picks.

Van Persie may not be ‘essential’ but for the conservative manager, his incredible consistency makes him a reliable captain that will still bring home regular points. It might take some time to identify exactly who the best alternative captains are – until that time, Van Persie is a safe option to get you started.

Mark says…
Essential is a big word. I wouldn’t quite go that far but, for my money, Bale’s seemingly imminent departure has undoubtedly raised Van Persie’s stock.

I was all set to overlook him and opt for the Spurs man but now the landscape has changed and suddenly I’m setting up with the Dutchman as the foundation for my team, with the rest of my selections dropping in around him.

The armband is a major concern. Yes, there will be weekly candidates who emerge but few, if any, can get close to the consistency we saw from Van Persie for long spells last season.

I’m well aware that I’ve clung to him like a security blanket and that my faith in Van Persie has cost me dear in the past but I much prefer the idea of starting the season with him and assessing what value is available elsewhere, rather than be forced to carry out major surgery ahead of Gameweek 4.

Of course the early wildcard is the solution but I want to have the choice, not be forced to play it because Van Persie has delivered a goal a game and is about to embark on a run of favourable fixtures.

The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack. While Wayne Rooney flirted with the concept of offering an alternative last season, this time around that option looks unlikely. Unless Wilfred Zaha takes his opportunity or Shinji Kagawa cements the support role over Danny Welback, then it really is Van Persie or nothing.

While there are real concerns that David Moyes will struggle to inspire his team to the heights of previous campaigns, I see too much quality in the United lineup to risk overlooking them as an attacking force.

Essential? Not quite. Highly desirable and worth building your squad around? Right now, I really think so.

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  1. thetinkerman
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    Mark:

    "The fact is, without Van Persie, I’m going into the season without any cover of the Champions’ attack."

    Coverage? COVERAGE? 😯

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Tsk. It has to be ... Welbeck! 😉

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      1. Christina.
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        *Mark is BACKing Danny WelBACk

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          I only nag you, 'cos I loves you! 😛

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      I take it you're not a fan of the "Coverage" ploy Tinkerman?

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      1. thetinkerman
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        I just don't think you can compare buying RVP with buying other United attackers just because they play in the same team!

        In short: coverage only really applies when a given player is nailed-on has a high goal involvement (over 1/3)

        The only player who that applies to at United is RVP. RVP is United coverage.

        Rooney also had high goal involvement, but only managed 27 appearances last term. Admittedly, he could be an alternative this season

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    3. Ryan
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      Its a good term Tinkerman 😉

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      1. thetinkerman
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        🙄

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  2. PC 2015
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    Question. My team name - Clintloris Simulation - was devised when we still had Dempsey. Now he's flown back to the States, it sort of feels wrong to still go with it (however proud I am of it)
    What do you reckon ? Keep it or change to Option 2 - Hadanuffa Wakkinov - no footie relevance ; just sadly true.

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  3. Blue Lion
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    TW...Mate, You've got mail!

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    1. tw
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      got it and replied

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  4. thetinkerman
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    I don't know whether to be happy that two of my players scored in the England game (Wally and Lambert), or annoyed that many more casuals and FFSers alike will jump on the bandwagon.

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    1. FantaCity
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      Nice! I'm surprised you can fit in Lambert from the off - I would if I could 😉

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      1. thetinkerman
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        Well, you may have guessed it, but no RVP allows a pretty strong attack and defence:

        Mig

        Kosc Ivan Turner (Nor) Collins/Reid/Toure Brayford

        Wally Hazard Mirallas Kim ? (9.5m, probably Silva)

        Sturridge Lambert ? (7.5m, probably Berb)

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        1. FantaCity
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          No RVP for me either, but there are just too many other must-haves for GW1 to allow spaced in the front 8.
          Currrently have;
          Coutinho - Hazard - Walcott - Snod - Jedinak
          Benteke - Dzeko - Soldado

          ...but thinking of a punt on Redmond instead of Snoddy

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    2. Ryan
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      JRod will be the much bigger differential.

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  5. Ryan
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    Almost 7am UK time and the chaos is about to begin. It will be constant till the GW1 deadline. If we're lucky we might get one more semi deadzone tomorrow.

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    1. Christina.
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      Yeah, time to lay low.

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      1. Ryan
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        Yep, its a good time to sort by stick and or discussion rating. Hot topics might become more lively as well which will be good for those wanting proper discussions.

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        1. Ryan
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          *sticky

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      We've barely had a proper DZ all summer Ryan.

      No recipes, gardening tips, fishing news. Not a proper DZ to my mind.

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      1. Christina.
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        Yeah, I miss the days when I could get some good advice on how to rid little Inalize of headlice.

        the good old days.

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      2. Ryan
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        It will come again. Although the old one page deadzones were frequent before the prices came out.

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      3. @FuzzyWarbles
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        yeah the DZ has been rubbish without me hasnt it?

        now we're cooking.

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        1. In Like Flynn.
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          Nice to see you here Fuzzy. Joining a few MLs this year?

          I hope you're keeping well?

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
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            cheers, always glad to see Errol around. If you have a ML invite, im looking.

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            1. In Like Flynn.
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              I'll set one up and see you here tomorrow with details?

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  6. teddy.
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    Morning Zoners,

    Boruc
    Coleman Brayford Ward
    Hazard(c) Oscar Ramires Walcott
    RVP Sturridge Anelka

    Mannone Snodgrass Luna TaylorS

    Stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

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    1. Christina.
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      Shirley you would play Manonne at home?

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      1. teddy.
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        Oh yeach. That's what I'm doing.

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    2. In Like Flynn.
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      I did, and it has the unmistakeable aroma of mild success.

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        i know that smell 🙂

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    3. LeBoeuf
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      Different i guess

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  7. RocketMan
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    walcott or giroud?

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  8. Torreslove
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    boruc, mannone
    toure, lescott,cole, brayford, b turner
    coutinho, hazard, walcott, mirallas, thomas
    soldado, dzeko, lukaku

    0.5 in the bank

    I wanted to go with 2 4.5 keepers and I think mannone will start for sunderland. why? because I tossed a coin and it landed heads (heads = mannone, tail = westwood) and many think he will.

    lescott should get time in the absence of nasty and it will be straight swap when nasty does come back.

    template mid.

    punt on dzeko because I believe he will start given his pre-season form and aguero's lack of match fitness.

    i will take cole out after dgw and can use the cash to upgrade either lukaku or dzeko.

    anything glaringly wrong with this team?

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  9. Cocky Spaniel Alves
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    Foster-Boruc rotation
    Koscielny-Toure-Lescott-Coleman (bench one of these along with a 4,0 def)
    Hazard-Walcott-Coutinho-Mirallas (bench a 4,5 mid)
    Lukaku-Giroud-Benteke

    Any comments?

    que "too much in defense" etc. but I don't think I can invest the funds better in mid or up front to be honest 🙂

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    1. Jairzinho
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      Strong team!

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    2. Bolt-on
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      Nice but only one Chelsea is a slight issue

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      1. Bolt-on
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        ignore me just counted the other - the team is nice

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    3. tw
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      i'd prefer soldado over giroud

      and too much in defense haha. not now but soon enough you'll be wishing you had those extra funds for bale or aguero or even rooney (differential).

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      1. LeBoeuf
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        ^ this

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  10. UnitednationsXI
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    Last post of previous page...

    Which option looks better?

    A:
    Gw1: hazard lallana lukaku rvp dzeko
    Gw2: hazard lallana soldado rvp dzeko
    Gw3: coutinho(or any mid upto 9) lallana soldado rvp dzeko

    B:
    Gw1: hazard coutinho lukaku soldado dzeko
    Gw2: lallana coutinho lukaku soldado dzeko
    Gw3: lallana coutinho rvp soldado dzeko

    - Option A allows me more flexibility as i will have rvp from the start so can catch any bandwagons running. Option B lays out first 2/3 transfers to bring in Rvp by gw3/4.

    - Option A doesnt provide me with coutinho from gw1 and get soldado in gw2. Option B i can have both from start

    Thoughts?

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    1. Tabone
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      i like B better

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  11. Deece
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    Morning gents,

    Been pondering this a while, all thoughts welcome...

    A) Sturridge / Mata / Snodgrass
    B) Lukaku / Coutinho / Silva

    I already have Giroud and Dzeko (punt) as my other strikers. Walcott and Hazard in midfield.

    cheers.

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    1. Test Eagles
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      B for me, i like Coutinho and Silva for their nailedon-ness and pre-season form!

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    2. Pinoche
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      B.

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    3. Tabone
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      B

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  12. Test Eagles
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    Deadzone Rant ... 2 points:

    1) Louis Suarez is a choad ... absolutely can't stand the git!

    2) Not long until the site is inundated with linkless, gravless RMTs for the part-timers so get in quickly for the last serious pearls of wisdom!

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      I like this bloke. 🙂 Always gets his priorities right. 🙂

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    2. Birdman Transfer
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      I don't see what's not to like about him...?

      (In all seriousness, as a 'pool supporter I've been conflicted for a while now. That handball against the Black Stars in the WC—and his subsequent attitude about it—was absolutely infuriating, then roughly 30 seconds later we signed him. He's certainly produced (both offense and offenses), nevertheless I've been looking forward to having an opportunity to go back to hating him, but now there likely won't be time to sign a suitable replacement.)

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    1. jimski
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      Hmm, 6.5 probably too much for a Palace striker.

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  13. Torreslove
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    boruc, mannone
    toure, lescott,cole, brayford, b turner
    coutinho, hazard, walcott, mirallas, thomas
    soldado, dzeko, lukaku

    0.5 in the bank.

    I wanted to go with 2 4.5 keepers and I think mannone will start for sunderland. why? because I tossed a coin and it landed heads (heads = mannone, tail = westwood) and many think he will.

    lescott should get time in the absence of nasty and it will be straight swap when nasty does come back.

    template mid.

    punt on dzeko because I believe he will start given his pre-season form and aguero's lack of match fitness.

    i will take cole out after dgw and can use the cash to upgrade either lukaku or dzeko.

    anything glaringly wrong with this team?

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    1. Twelve years a slave
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      i went cech instead of cole , has the advantage that by the time want to get rid of him will know who the sunderland keeper is

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  14. The EJJ
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    Something more important today... A Level results!

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    1. Test Eagles
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      Good luck mate!

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  15. Tabone
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    join my leagues. just created them.

    head to head: 788568-384077

    Classic: 788568-384325

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    1. Pinoche
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      I'll join the h2h one. Thanks! 🙂

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  16. Something Clever
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    Is Azpil nailed on?

    Cheers

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    1. Jairzinho
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      Far from it.

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      1. Something Clever
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        Wishful thinking i suppose. I'm trying to build a fortress at the back this year. With Mourinho's incredible defence stats from his last time at Chelsea, i'm even considering Cech at 6.5 mill.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
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      Don't think so. Ivan is playing RB a lot in pre-season and did well. Nobody except Cech and Cole are nailed on in CHE defence.

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    3. Something Clever
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      Cheers fellas

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  17. Elniñorules
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    Bet Deal - Team Salma vs Team Fuzzy

    Top scorer in first 5 GWs - Soldado vs Walcott

    If I lose, I add #COYS to my tweets for 2 weeks
    If Fuzzy loses, he adds #WishArryWasHere to his tweets for 2 weeks

    Caveat: Minimum 20 tweets required to fulfill clause

    Witnesses: All you wonderful people of the late DZ (Pick your team wisely)

    Fuzzywarbles, do we have a deal???

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
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      DEAL.

      well I think that makes it official, a new season is upon us! All is right with the world.

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      1. Elniñorules
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        *pulls pen out of rack and signs on paper*

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        1. tw
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          I swear you live for these types of deals/bets.... and end up losing most of them 😀

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          1. Elniñorules
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            The tide has turned TW

            El Nino's time has come.... (even at chelsea) 🙂

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      2. @FuzzyWarbles
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        *ASTERISK!!!!!

        assuming no news before GW1 deadline that either player is a major doubt or out.

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        1. Elniñorules
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          Mwahahahaha

          Fuzzy fears the inevitable

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    2. Just A Hat
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      I'm going with Walcott!

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
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        a wise choice sir

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      2. Elniñorules
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        What do you know? You're.....(insert your name here) 😉

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  18. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
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    Morning,

    What are your exit strategies for Lukaku?

    I'm thinking to tfr him for Lambert or another bandwagon striker like van wolfswinkel.

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    1. SC not pearls before swine
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      He either stays or I upgrade him to Sturridge/Soldado with my Chelsea defender money.

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    2. Jairzinho
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      Is J-Rod is losing the popularity contest after last night?

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  19. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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    Facer, Le Gooner and Milkman are wanted, dead or alive. Only three left of the No H2H Gang.

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    1. Elniñorules
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      On a steel horse....I ride. 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Big Reward for Salma. Well ... biggish ... 😉

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
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      i need a H2H

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        Jozy & The Black Cats, right? You are in Heatherwick.

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
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          right. 😳

          thought it was another league. think i did relatively well in that H2h last season, despite having a terrible overall ranking.

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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            You did somehow avoid relegation ... 😉

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  20. thetinkerman
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    Any pressers today? 😀

    Or are they tomorrow? 🙁

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  21. Angin out the Begović
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    Same price cant decide who to pick..

    Brayford or Chester?
    R.Barkley or Rav Morrison?

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  22. simon.knott86
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    Morning everyone

    so after last nights performance how many of you have put your faith in good old Rickie Lambert?

    Anyone heard anything about injuries from any of the intl' games yet?

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    1. Tabone
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      still not convinced.. he should of had a hat trick in that game!

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      1. simon.knott86
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        😆 almost had 2 if it werent for hitting the post!

        If he had been on before 70 mins I reckon he probably would have had a couple more... Quality player and looked alot livelier dare i say it than Roo!

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  23. Adriano
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    Collins nailed on? A Collins/Shaw rotation would work out quite nicely considering both teams are significantly stronger defensively at home.

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      Jeez. Unfortunately, they are both injured.

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
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        Collins - 75% chance of playing according to FPL. Worth keeping on the bench or upgrade to Rat/Reid if i'm still keen on WHU defender?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
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          He may not be first choice ahead of Tomkins, imo, for which I have been slated. So, Reid - bonus machine and a possible three goals for the Season.

          However, I have McAuley, as I have Adrián, and Noble and Maiga.

          I also have Downing, but that's another story. 😉

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          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Reid over Rat?

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              Yup. Definitely.

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              1. Christina.
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 10 months ago

                No competition for Reid?

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 10 months ago

                  Well ... not so far as I am able to discern.

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                  1. Christina.
                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 10 months ago

                    Discerning is an adjective that comes from the Old French discerner, meaning to “distinguish (between), separate (by sifting).” Which makes sense, because someone with discerning tastes or a discerning eye is good at distinguishing the good from the bad and sifting out the gems from the junk. If you're an ace at picking out fabulous fabrics, accessories, and shoes when you get dressed each morning, you probably have discerning fashion sense.

                    😯

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          2. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            Adrian eh? You are indeed the brave one. I think Maiga will reward you instantly, but not too sure with Noble at 5.5 now, other options have unearthed.

            Please no Downing, i think his Boro form are things of the past. Sorry.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              I still like him. 🙂 Particularly playing for us - we are nicer fans than the scousers.

              Anyway, I am pretty sure that I don't have the balls to retain him.

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          3. tw
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            4 west ham!? 😯

            I knew you were crazy but didn't think you were that crazy! 😉

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 14 Years
              10 years, 10 months ago

              It is just romance ... 🙂

              Adrián
              Koscielny, McAuley, Ivanovic
              Hazard(c), Walcott(vc), Downing, Noble
              Van Persie, Lukaku, Maiga

              Subs: Boruc; Mirallas, Moxey, Chester ... 0.5

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          4. Javra
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            You're love for WHU seems to be getting in the way of your team selection. FF 1.0.1 - Don't let your feelings get in the way.

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    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      nailed on but might not play in season opener (already flagged in FPL). Worth keeping on the bench for the upcoming fixtures imo, but other alternatives at 4.5m are also good.

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      1. Adriano
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        That's what worries me. I was considering a Sun/New combo but a bad run of fixtures and defensive inconsistency is making me think otherwise. Any other 4.5 options?

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        1. thetinkerman
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          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Turner (Norwich) is a good bet.

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    3. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Collins looks to be first choice if fit. Tomkins is a threat though. Watch for news in the press confefence.

      Shaw is nailed-on if fit, but may miss the start of the season. Monitor Clyne as a replacement. Collins and Clyne may be a good shout, but it may make more sense to downgrade on for a 4m and pick a nailed-on, fit 5m player such as Toure or Coleman.

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    4. J0E
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Consider southampton's Yoshida as well. The bonus system favours him.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        He has had a dodgy pre-Season, and is playing/has played in Japan.

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        1. J0E
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          That's a good point ... Maybe one to monitor.

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      2. ccc
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        how long will get starts for? long enough for us to invest in him?

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  24. NABIL - FPL otai
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    which one?

    A) Terry & Mirallas

    B) Ivan & Nolan

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ivan & Mirallas. I have. Yes, I've got RVP too ...

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Wow, you sure got some hitters and fillers. 😉 Still starting Noble?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          See above. 😉

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    2. Kevin Twine
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      A.

      But try and find the funds for Ivan and Mirallas, IMO.

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      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Nothing in the bank, sadly.

        Where to steal that 0.5?

        Foster Boruc
        Terry Lescott Toure Murner Burner
        Hazard Wally Cout Mirallas Kim
        Dzeko Lukaku Soldado

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  25. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Also - best 4.5m mid?

    Ravel Morrison

    Or

    Grandin?

    Or other.

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  26. Manani
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Just watched the highlight of ENgland's match,

    Walcott is well good!!
    His composure, dribbling and finishing in class in that goal!!

    He has gone from a 1 dimension pace whore to a top class winger with a great finishing in just 2 seasons! Amazing stuff

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    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Flashback to that amazing run against 'Pool in the UCL, and that hat-trick against Croatia. He always had the potential, only lacks consistency. He got it last season and is probably doing it again this season. Watch out.

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  27. Mzdi8jc5
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    First post!
    Sun Dream Team.

    Mignolet
    K Toure - Shawcross - Williams - Chico
    Hazard - Walcott - Coutinho
    RVP - Benteke - Lukaku

    0.5m in the bank.

    Thoughts?
    Thanks in advance guys!

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  28. Mr Smith
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Thoughts on City back four? Lescott worth a punt? I'd love to get Zab but not enough money.

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ranked in chances of being nailed-on (disclaimer: only my opinion)

      Kompany
      Clichy/Zab
      Lescott

      Boyata, Richards and Kolarov are threats to Lescott, Clichy and Zaba

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      1. Mr Smith
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Good man, thx

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