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Dugout Discussion December 21

The Dugout Discussion – Liverpool vs Cardiff

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Saturday offers up the uncomfortable scenario of an early kick-off captain. Luis Suarez dominated our thinking going into the Gameweek, running away with our Captain poll has thousands backed him for his home clash with Cardiff. That Anfield encounter provides the day’s opener and a potential points haul or major failure from the off.

The team news from Anfield finds few surprises from Brendan Rodgers’ lineup as he keeps the same starting XI that destroyed Spurs at the Lane. Raheem Sterling and Joe Allen retain their starting roles in midfield, while Dan Agger is amongst the substitutes as Martin Skrtel and Mamadou Sakho form the centre-back partnership once again. Malky Mackay is under the media microscope for today’s match in the light of the seemingly untenable relationship with club owner Vincent Tan. In what could be his last Cardiff team selection, Mackay chooses to recall Aron Gunnarsson in place of striker Frazier Campbell in the only change to the side that won three points against West Brom last time out.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to provide a real-time platform for your views for this match and will remain throughout the day’s action.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Continue the Cout curse please 🙂

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  2. isacki: full casual
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Couple of points:

    The Liverpool midfield looks so much better without Gerrard; much more mobile, much better passing, making much better interplay. All they're missing is his undeniably brilliant set plays.

    Can you believe how well Lucas has been passing today from deep? Such crisp and incisive passes, it's hard to believe he's the same player. I think the difference is that the midfield three now fully rotate instead of Lucas holding behind static Gerrard, making both static.

    Henderson's form (and Sterling's too) has been praised before - his understanding with Suarez is becoming telepathic.

    Flanagan already looks much better attacking than GJ who is often ponderous in possession. Both had two great chances this game receiving passes in the box. Flanagan shot in from a difficult angle and it came down to a goalline decision. GJ had the touch of a horny badger and miskicked it into Marshall's hands.

    Finally, the formation is so fluid it's hard to pin down. It looks like a loose 4-3-3 with Sterling definitely on the right, Suarez definitely the striker. The rest is pretty open. I think it's roughly Lucas/Allen/Henderson the middle three with Coutinho drifting in so much from the left that he's playing in the centre. Flanagan providing the width down the left.

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Relax on Lucas, he's making 5 yard passes 😆

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 12 Years
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        😆

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Only noticed him because he isn't. Playing attacking passes straight into the final third from the halfway line. I had to look twice to make sure it was Lucas.

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        1. The3rdTurd
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          6 accurate long balls out of 6 attempted.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            It must be his twin brother or something.

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    2. Jimmers
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      The game against City will be a real test for the new formation

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Yep. Might finally be a team that can press City properly and keep the score down. big ask though.

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        1. tw
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          10 years, 6 months ago

          or it'll be a suarez vs city goalfest

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 12 Years
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            Everyone sell their defenders!

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            1. tw
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              that's exactly what i'm doing 🙂

              downgrading GJ so I can afford wally

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    3. Obi Wan Elokobi
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Flanagan plays for the team he loves and is probably still shocked he is playing for his boy hood dream at such high form will give him tonnes of confidence that Rodgers is trusting him

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    4. Lord Flashheart
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Have an up vote since I agree with every word.

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  3. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Does anybody think Suarez > Studge is a good move when he returns...or is it still too sideways between those two...

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    1. 4-4-who?
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Shut up.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
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      lol

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    3. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
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      LOL

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  4. Parm
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Guess who's gone and bought Adebayor....

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/9477/event-history/17/

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Don't need to look to know.

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Oh dear 😕

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    3. Alaric
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Whose team is that?

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      1. beric
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        doosra

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    4. Mull
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      What a legend.

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    5. beric
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      good luck to him, i think it could work out, although probably not this weekend

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    6. tw
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      because why have suarez when you can have Adebayor? 😉

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  5. The Finnisher
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Suarez 48.9% ownership...

    Fair to say 51.099% don't play anymore, and the other 0.001% is Doosra

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    1. tw
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      😆

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    2. copps
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      i have a mate who's a united fanm and refuses to pick any city or liverpool players 😆

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      1. copps
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        the 2 highest scoring teams by a mile

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    3. mgilbert86
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      some can't afford possibly

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  6. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    odds on suarez hat-trick and malkay mackay sacked tonight?

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  7. Chucky
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Triple digit GW score on the cards for majority on here... 🙂

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    1. Keane There Dunne That
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      It's only half time in the first match...

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  8. copps
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    if arsenal and chelsea draw liverpool will be top at christmas 😯

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  9. Tortilla.Curtain
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Flash forward to the beginning of next season... Remember this year when there was much gnashing of teeth over whether or not to have RVP at 14.0 on your team? Imagine how much Suarez will cost next year. Is it possible to exceed 14.0? Will we all be having the same discussion? If this ridiculous 12+ points per game keeps up, he'll be beyond essential. Will he even still be in the Premier League? I'm not going to lose sleep over it now since I'm enjoying the ride and happy that I paid 10.9 for Suarez, but one does wonder...

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    1. GlasgowFF
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      He will surely move on at the end of the season.

      He deserves more than Liverpool.

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    2. Hybrid.power
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I too paid 10.9 for him. High five!

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  10. Alaric
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Did anyone not captain Suarez? Did Forca end up captaining him?

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      he did

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    2. Mull
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I didn't but I've given up caring tbh.

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Forca captained him http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/241/event-history/17/

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    4. The Finnisher
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Probably. He was never not going to captain him. All talk.

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  11. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Is it a rule to sack your manager when having let Suarez score a hat-trick

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  12. Tadic is the new Eriksen
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    suarez best player even surely

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    1. super zlatan
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Still rather have CR7

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      1. Alaric
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Not comparable different roles

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  13. GlasgowFF
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Is everyone just forgetting what Suarez did re Evra and Ivanovic then?

    Great player but not a good man.

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Plus neckbite at Ajax

      Plus goal line handball at the World Cup

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      1. Del Griffith
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        flawed genius

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    2. joinho
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      The good player bit is all that matters when it comes to FPL, when it comes to the highest scoring player in the prem right now there's no room for morals.

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  14. joinho
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    So is Rooney definitely out?

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    1. GlasgowFF
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      nope

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      fear the worst tbh

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  15. Freshy
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Malkey expected to be fired after todays game
    2 weeks in a row for the Gaffer Killer
    Swen Gorran Erickson in

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  16. Portsmouth Bubblejet
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Chris Lepkowski, Brimingham Mail, via Twitter:

    "Expecting Foster to get the call."

    https://twitter.com/chrislepkowski/status/414391479033806848

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    1. beric
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      damn, he's not quite chep enough

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  17. beric
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    sub hendo off pls

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  18. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Cardiff not battling for their manager at all

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  19. Konig Luther
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    rooney starting after all...??

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    1. OPTA FPL
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      yes

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  20. Donnie Brasco´s
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I have one question...
    Who was the most expensive Fantasy Footbal player ever?
    Robin van Persie with his this season price tag of 14mil???
    If suarez continues like he does now than he wil be on the ond of the season on 15 mil or at least 14,5....

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Thierry Henry was I think. Ronaldo close behind.

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      1. Donnie Brasco´s
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        How much was this two????
        I start playing this game after Ronaldo gone from Man Utd

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        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Ronaldo was definitely at least 14. I didn't play when Henry was in the game, I just know from people asking similar questions.

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    2. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      theres a ceiling price i think

      14 mil not certain though

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 13 Years
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        not true

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    3. Nice to Finally Michu
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      Ronaldo was 14.2. At his highest

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    4. Hect.OR 98th
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      he won't go up that high. half of all active players already have him and the majority of the others are inactive. not enough likely buyers to keep his price rising.

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    5. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      I think Henry was 18ish

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      1. Donnie Brasco´s
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        ??? You sure?

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      2. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Scratch that... 14.9

        http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/useful-links-stats-threads-new-to-fpl-read-here-1st-t55.html

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  21. Obi Wan Elokobi
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    People still gonna vote for Ramsey player of the season

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      no chance

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  22. Optimus.
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    Suarez to beat Walcott's 26 pointer of last season today?

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    1. The Machine
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      No

      Needs to be involved in 3 more goal

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      1. Keane There Dunne That
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Never know with the way they're playing

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    2. tw
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      needs 3 more attacking returns by my calculations

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  23. The Machine
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Hendersen for the 4th mid?

    Nailed on even when Sturridge and Steve return

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    1. beric
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      cant fit him in with silva - walcott - ramsey - hazard

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      1. Beavis
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        This 😉

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      2. The Machine
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Forgot Ramsey 🙄

        It's like having 4 mids now

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        1. beric
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          hendo too expensive for no.5

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    2. Jax
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Next two are tough

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  24. Legendary!
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Flanagan is playing really advanced!!

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      So is Migs.

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  25. Just Ruud
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Rooney in tracksuit and walking into changing room with rest of the team, good sign, fingers crossed.

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    1. Scottys Army
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      prays

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    2. Buck The Trent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Saw that on tv !

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  26. footyjuana
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    rooney shown getting off the bus with the team - should start

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    1. copps
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      10 years, 6 months ago

      hell yes!

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  27. copps
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Coutinho. What a troll

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWaDQXkCQAAjXAz.jpg

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  28. Captain Shirokov
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    BOOM Rooney

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  29. Essan
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    10 years, 6 months ago

    With regards the question of whether to captain Suarez on Boxing Day: surely the real question is how certain are you ManC will keep a clean sheet 😉

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  30. TOSH
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    OMG,ROOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNEEEEEEYYYYYYY...YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!! 😎 😎

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