Preamble

The Pre-match Preamble – Gameweek 17

This is a time for family and feasting. A time to indulge those you love and the treats and temptations around us. For Fantasy managers, however, Christmas offers us a tortuous programme that clashes with such merriment and has us break etiquette and risk the wrath of loved ones. We embrace the fixture frenzy that Christmas brings – it’s all that family and friends nonsense that gets in the way.

Every year I’m amazed by the numbers. While I’m reliably informed that, by January, the typical Fantasy Football player base has dropped off by 50%, on our pages we see no such trend. The Christmas spell is a boom period.

It leads me to ponder that, if Fantasy Football is a drug for the enthusiastic “hardcore” player, then the Christmas period is a pure and relentless hit that renders us giddy with the possibilities and often exhausts us with its outcomes. This is no time to shelve our lineups and pursue the expected Christmas agenda – our time is dictated by deadlines, kick-off times and the live television schedule. We need our fix and it’s never been so plentiful.

And yet, I know full well I will have to make concessions. I know that, come Boxing Day, my excited expectations for my teams will have to be hushed amongst company, limited to a smuggled mobile phone under the dinner table and improbably frequent toilet breaks that will have loved ones concerned about the condition of my bladder.

It’s a painful experience (not the bladder) to maintain the threads of conversation over dinner when the mind is drifting to the chances of Marko Arnautovic notching for Stoke. It’s unnatural, unnecessary and against all that Christmas stands for. And yet, for myself and doubtless other Fantasy managers, it’s become the norm.

Hands up, then. The normal service will be interrupted. Pulls and responsibilities, the magic of seeing my near two-year-old experience all that Christmas brings will distract me and those who help me to fuel your own obsession at this time. But I’ll sneak and cajole, win brownie points and trade them for time to be amongst you. Enjoy the festivities.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. SW6
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Not really expecting Rooney to start today, just hoping he only misses 1 game.

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    1. Mílanista
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      For one reason or another Rooney always seems to flop over Christmas.

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      1. Texas Pete
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Mince pies

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        1. Jafooli
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          You called?

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  2. Brutus619
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Is Rooney confirmed out now guys!?

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    1. HurriKane
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      nope

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    2. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Don't know but I expect him to miss this game

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    3. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. Just rumours.

      FWIW, I don't think he'll start.

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  3. Evans
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone got Pantilimon ?

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    1. rvp786
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      me. thinking about swapping him for mannone/de gea at the moment

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      1. Evans
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        De GEA is a good shout IMO

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    2. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Panty and Davis. Nightmare.

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  4. Mr. Perfectionist
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Pick 1 to START:-

    a) Mertesacker
    b) Williams

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Merts ... More goal threat

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  5. Lao Tzu
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I have already taken a -8.

    Should I really be contemplating taking a -12 to ditch Rooney?

    I'm getting very worried about him not playing.

    Barkley first sub. I already own Suarez and Lukaku.

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    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      let me stop you there

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    2. banskt
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No.

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    3. Spoonerism
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Step away from the keyboard.

      Barkley is a good sub.

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  6. FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Oh god anybody else got to go Xmas shopping?

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah.. Shoot me ...shoot me now

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    2. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope. All done and dusted, mostly by the wife 😉

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        snap and mostly online......ahhh its the future

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      2. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        What did she get herself??

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        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          That is the exception of course. I did wife pressies weeks ago. Wife does all family ,Aunts and Uncles, etc. It's great!

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    3. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No. Her indoors has to 😉

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    4. Gooner Kebab
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      ugh and it's gonna rain

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Online via LivingSocial and GrabOne - got some awesome deals !!!

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  7. banskt
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Starting Baker, while Mert and Walker is on bench... Am I grossly wrong?

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I would play merts

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    2. Beavis
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Play Mert

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    3. banskt
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks.

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    4. John Nerdelbaum
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Mert surely

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  8. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone think the Cardiff players will give an awesome performance for Malkays last game in charge and stop Suarez? Rooney definitely out also?

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nice thinking but no

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    2. jas5sk - Youtube channel
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No. Rich football players don't have feelings 😉

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  9. Jafooli
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Suarez probably eating his pre-match meal about now.

    Ivanovic & chips

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Lol !

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  10. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Marshall
    Clyne Terry Coleman
    Hazard Silva Ramsey Sessegnon
    Suarez (C) Rooney Lukaku

    Bench: Lewis Ravel Zabaleta Chester

    A) Zabaleta and Clyne TO M.Olsson and Ward for -8 (Would allow me to do Sess to Walcott for free next GW)

    B) Zabaleta TO Evans for -4 (Would allow me to do Sess to Mirallas for free next GW)

    C) Stick with that team

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  11. toxik
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can see epic Suarez fail today, I was Cardiff in MM's last game

    Do I dare Roonpig (c)

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    1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      That is certifiable.

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  12. Demí
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    That link posted by Optimus last page is pretty legit

    No Rooney or Rafael in the squad then

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      🙁

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    2. rvp786
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      demi mate - shall i take out panty then? is he deffo dropped for today?

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yes

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        1. rvp786
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          cheers mate

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    3. Valar(Keith)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      oh dear

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    4. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Worth taking a hit ?

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    5. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Meltdown!

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    6. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      🙁 Still holding.

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    7. Mull
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Everybody panic!
      http://youtu.be/xMzUBR3PfME?t=46s

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      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        😆

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    8. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Blimey. Is this so? 🙁

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    9. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      demi isnt that just based on this post..... which has a big caveat at the bottom

      http://redmancunian.com/2013/12/21/manchester-united-without-rooney-van-persie-fellaini-vidic-ferdinand-weekend/

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Perhaps. I'd find it strange if that's what happened though. Especially with someone who's an injury doubt. All it seems to me is that Moyes hasn't risked Rooney, with RVP injured already. Seems perfectly reasonable.

        Not saying to treat it as gospel, but whenever that guy posts the players in the squad, it's always been reliable before.

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          mind you that one had rafael as travelling, so dont know what to believe

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      2. GreennRed
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yip. Rooney prob stayed in Manchester for extra physio. Could still be in the squad today but prob on bench to be sprung if United doing poorly.

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    10. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ouch

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    11. Voodoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Any news on Vidic Demi? I'm thinking of Vidic to Evans for -4..

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      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        He wasn't in the squad either. I'd say it's worth it if that tweet is true which i reckon it is

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    12. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      😯

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      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Pressures on fella 😆

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    13. Chucky
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      🙁

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  13. theoriginaltusfat
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Hello Fantasy Football Scout.

    This is my first post on here - love this site!

    What's everyone saying about Dzecko?.....Negredo seems to have attracted all the attention for a replacement at city for Aguero but in my experience he scores when he plays doesn't he? A cheeky cheap punt I think.

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    1. Bauerhaus 24
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      if he starts he'll get points but the feeling is city will probably play 4-5-1 with negredo up front

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      The general expectation is for City to go 4-5-1 with Nasri and Navas/Milner on the wings and Silva in the hole.

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    3. Ryan
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      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I think he will start and steal the limelight personally.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        In saying that I expect Negredo to start as well but play slightly deeper

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    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Welcome! 🙂

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      1. stilicho
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        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        How are you keeping Doos?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I've been better. Family troubles - and my legs are going. Thank you. And how are you? 🙂

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          1. stilicho
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Sorry to hear that 🙁

            I'm ok, very busy at work, dissertation to finish, endless problems with the house, heavily pregnant girlfriend, but life is good!

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    5. Zinedine Kilbane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Don't know about you, but with little big hitter options avail money isn't really an issue, especially with forwards scoring so well. don't want to save money on cheap altenatives up front. Negredo for me

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  14. NATSTER
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    RavMo or Distin for first sub?

    Howard in goal. Just Rooney a doubt.

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  15. toxik
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Can see epic Suarez fail today, I fancy Cardiff in MM's last game

    Do I dare Roonpig (c)

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No - see Demi post above

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    2. Texas Pete
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      If you like. Really, really wouldn't though

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    3. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Not for me. If at home may have been different.

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      1. John Nerdelbaum
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        he is at home...

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        1. Mithrandir, the Grey Pilgri…
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          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I meant the epic Suarez fail and Cardiff getting it on, in Cardiff.

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          1. John Nerdelbaum
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ah I see

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  16. FACUPARSE
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Quite a few newspapers are going with Rooney starting. Why would some twitter douch bag with no connection to Man U know any better??

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Do the Journo's know more than some twitter douch?

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      1. FACUPARSE
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        generally yes

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    2. Elwood
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      When to the newspapers know better?

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  17. QPR expects... glory!
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Two bacon rolls. Do I double up on brown sauce or hedge my bets and have one brown sauce, one red?

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    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Jzuz, I'd take a 12 point hit for that and a cup if shcald right now. Enjoy 🙂

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    2. FACUPARSE
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Both in both

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    3. Jafooli
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      One each ftw

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  18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    *giggles*

    Merry Christmas, Mark - and to all those in here and on here!

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    1. Evans
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      And you

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Merry Christmas Doos, don't go overindulging now 😉

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I only drink Manzanilla sherry, now. Dropped the Porty-Worty. 🙁

        Mind you, we have some cracking Burgundy! 😀

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      2. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Merry Christmas, kind sir 🙂

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  19. Sean.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Think i'm bringing in Wally for a hit to cover Roo
    Makes MNF more exciting anyway 🙂

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  20. d1sable
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    10 years, 4 months ago

    Brilliantly written article

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    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah great article. Sums me up to a tee.

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    2. Bubz
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      +1

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  21. Denis Tueart on the wing
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    A) Jones
    or
    B) Johnson

    in for Zab?

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  22. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Have Rooney starting but don't see it happening.

    Who to put as first sub.bad choices I know

    Vlaar burner jwp .thoughts please.

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  23. PlayPercentage
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I hope Rooney doesn't get a 10 min cameo.
    But things like this happen in the Xmas games.

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  24. Thatsnotcricket
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Someone posted a link last night from BBC radio claiming Rooney would be out for a couple of weeks.

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    • Bubz
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Should I put Chester or RavMo first sub?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ravmo

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        1. Bubz
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          OK, thanks

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      2. rvp786
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ravel

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    • SpinyNorman [*_*]
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone daring to NOT captain Suarez?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Me. Obviously. 😉

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Want to join the non-Suarez league? 2463-674536 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Ha! Maybe ... 🙂

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      2. Whitman2013
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I'm captaining boruc vc Suarez 😉

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      3. Namtab Nomolos
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I'm a non-owner, so I get to experience what it was like for hose who wouldn't buy Ronaldo.

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        1. Namtab Nomolos
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Wow Walcott is still owned by just 4.6%, so he's a big differential this week if I captain him.

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      4. Kane Toads
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        nope.

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    • ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      @physioroom 2m

      Any decision regarding #Rooney will be left until the very last moment, bench at best IMO - could easily miss out today. We will update ASAP

      https://twitter.com/physioroom/status/414345508715786240

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        🙁

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      2. FPL Daniel
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        so sell for a hit or play terry?

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        1. Kane Toads
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I sold for a hit (to Flanagan).

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    • Mull
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Can't believe Taylor's out of the Darts!

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      1. Evans
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Lol ....

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    • Chris_White
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ravel or Negredo(-4)?

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    • Whitman2013
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hi guys please reply.
      Rooney out negredo in for a hit? Very worried about a lack of city coverage.

      Krul
      Coleman Whittaker ridgewell
      Fer shelvey hazard Ramsey
      Rooney Suarez (c) lukaku
      Bench: marshall Morrison terry zab

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