The Dugout Discussion – Monday

An all-London affair at the Emirates brings the curtain down on Gameweek 17 this evening. Plenty of Fantasy favourites are on show as the Gunners look for the win that would extend their lead to four points over the chasing pack:

For the hosts, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil are the main protagonists for Fantasy managers, whilst Theo Walcott will be looking to maintain the form that saw him score twice at the Etihad last weekend.

Jose Mourinho’s side roll up on the back of a poor form of form on the road. The Blues have been beaten in three of their last four away games in all competitions but know that a victory will draw them level with the Gunners on 36 points. Eden Hazard will be desperate to have his say before Fantasy managers turn our attentions to the Gameweek 18 fixtures on Boxing Day.

The team news sees the hosts make four changes from the side that lost 6-3 at City last time around. Kieran Gibbs and Thomas Vermaelen are drafted in for Nacho Monreal and Laurent Koscielny at the back, with the Frenchman sidelined due to a knee wound. Mikel Arteta partners Aaron Ramsey in the double-pivot, with Mathieu Flamini dropping out, whilst Tomas Rosicky gets the nod on the left, replacing the suspended Jack Wilshere. Lukas Podolski warms the Gunners bench along with the likes of Santi Cazorla.

The Blues make three alterations from the XI that edged past Palace. Gary Cahill replaces David Luiz in defence, whilst John Obi Mikel and Frank Lampard are drafted into midfield – Michael Essien drops out through suspension while Juan Mata takes his place on the bench, allowing Ramires to move onto the right of the attacking midfield three. Oscar, Andre Schurrle and Samuel Eto’o are also amongst the subs, with Fernando Torres leading the line again.

Once again, we’ve opened the Dugout Discussion chatroom for those partial to some real-time reaction.

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BBC_TF
10 years, 4 months ago
I can only do this move today given Walcott's and Mannone's price rise and Vidic's price drop tonight.

Is it worth it for 8 pts? I have 2 FTs.

Arnatauvic -> Silva
Ozil -> Walcott
Vidic -> Williamson
Mignolet -> Mannone

0.0 in cash
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1. Professor Abel X
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I would say no, -8 seems steep when any of the transfers out could score well
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  1. skodaole2
    10 years, 4 months ago
    + 1
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2. HVT
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I disagree with the lads a little here , that's a lot of deadwood he needs to sort his team and can leave his jan Wc till later then ,
  Can you keep Ozil and make it a -4 ?
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3. 42 Rules
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Could you get rid of giroud and add say JayRod then upgrade 1 mid to Walcott?
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purav
10 years, 4 months ago
Silva or walcott?? Why?
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1. skodaole2
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Silva seems in great form atm Walcott could be benched in one of the following matches
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2. AK ⭐
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I went for Silva last week just cause I had Ramsey as Arsenal cover, and I thought going without City attack any week can backfire. Depends on who you've got.
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Snibal
10 years, 4 months ago
Hey guys, I need some help as I am no longer first in my ML after yesterday. My team currently is;

Gazzaniga
Distin/Coleman/Vlaar
Ramsey/Ozil/Coutinho/Januzaj
Suarez/Rooney/Lukaku
Subs:xx/Lovren/Rosenior/Kasami

I have 4m ITB and a FT. I am thinking about Coutinho>Hazard/Toure/Silva. What are your thoughts? And I am absolutely clueless who to captain, any suggestions?
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1. Blue Bombers CFC
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Depends who your rivals got out of those three, im chasing too at the moment so have hazard, silva and walcott now to my rivals yaya, lallana and shelvey! Cant undertsand how he keeps pulling away from me though!
  
  Think silva wld be the best bet if ur rival has yaya
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  1. Snibal
    10 years, 4 months ago
    My rival has hazard so I guess that option is out. I might go for Silva or Toure then. I am also considering captaining Toure since my front three is the same as his and there might be a chance Toure outscores Suarez Probably not but Saurez won't score twice or more against City at the Etihad?
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t4thomas
10 years, 4 months ago
What is the general captain consensus for gw18 then?

I am thinking lukaku - but he does have a tendency to blank.
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1. Matt
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Suarez.
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2. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Currently have the armband on Suarez
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3. Peggi
  10 years, 4 months ago
  his form worries me a bit.
  
  I was thinking Rooney, but in the position he's been playing the last couple of weeks I can't see him scoring from open play
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super zlatan
10 years, 4 months ago
Morning lads
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1. Christina.
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ho Ho Ho!
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  1. Christina.
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Trannie?
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    1. super zlatan
      10 years, 4 months ago
      Sess > cabaye.
      
      What are your trades?
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      1. Christina.
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Wow, another good trade. You are set up nicely. Top 1k?
        
        I'm also selling Sesspool...not sure for who yet...
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        super zlatan
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Well I was going to to
        
        Terry > Chester
        Sess > Walcott for a hit. But I think it's silly to remove terry before a decent home game. And cabaye is in great form. I still want Walcott though.
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        Christina.
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Yeah I was going to do the same next week...Terry/Fer->Chester/Walcott -4
        
        To close to WC. Was thinking Haz->Walcott.
        
        Get Haz back with Jan WC.
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        super zlatan
        10 years, 4 months ago
        I'm not sure I would ship haz. U think he will get rotated over Xmas?
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        Christina.
        10 years, 4 months ago
        I dunno, but points matter and it might be worth taking him out and getting back in next 7 or so days.
        
        He has scored 3,1,2,3 vs MAN/EVE/City/Ars.
        
        Plays Livp in GW 19.
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        super zlatan
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Hmmm. Interesting. Might consider that too. Would save me taking hits.
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  2. super zlatan
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Hi slut. I haven't got my Xmas card from you yet. What's going on?
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    1. Christina.
      10 years, 4 months ago
      lol
      
      Merry Xmas bud!
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      1. super zlatan
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Merry Xmas to you too. 🙂
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HVT
10 years, 4 months ago
I think Evs may be right ,
Lukaka (c)
- No Brown / No O Shea = goals conceded.
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1. Tim Canterbury
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Suarez = goals. Simple
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  1. HVT
    10 years, 4 months ago
    I'm convinced he will blank somewhere and if he does and you can (c) someone with a brace that week - Hello Greens !
    It's a gamble but maybe one I'm just about prepared to take tbh to make ground.
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2. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Why isn't Oshea playing?
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  1. Christina.
    10 years, 4 months ago
    injured/doubt
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Kerrazy
10 years, 4 months ago
Phil Jones, thoughts on him to replace Walker ?
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1. Emp
  10 years, 4 months ago
  why would u replace walker now ? he has great fixtures coming up....
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  1. Sheep
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Have you seen the way TottenHam are playing recently?
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  2. Kerrazy
    10 years, 4 months ago
    not now, maybe after United. Spurs wont keep as many CS if Dawson is still there.
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2. HVT
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I spoke a lot about him last 2 weeks , nailed on oop and in good form.
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waltzingmatildas
10 years, 4 months ago
Is this a good move?
Terry and Nasri to Evans and Silva/Walcott
Terry has a good fixture this week so a little reluctant. Save transfer?

Krul
Terry Coleman Olsson
Hazard Cabaye Ramsey Nasri
Rooney lukaku Suarez (c)
Marshall Morrison Davies Vlaar
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1. Davids_Semen
  10 years, 4 months ago
  It's a bad free tranny, and everyone likes a tranny,
  
  but I would save, unless you have two FTs then I may be tempted to move someone else on depending on your money situation
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  1. Davids_Semen
    10 years, 4 months ago
    not a bad*
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2. waltzingmatildas
  10 years, 4 months ago
  It would be a -4....thinking to just hold with Nasri for now
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Sheep
10 years, 4 months ago
Don't panic guys, Sheep's here.
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1. Tim Canterbury
  10 years, 4 months ago
  How goes it?
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  1. Sheep
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Pretty good. The children seem relaxed. Everyone seems to be eating Turkey at the moment, the lambs are getting a rest.
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    1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      10 years, 4 months ago
      🙂
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    2. Efan Ekoku Pops
      10 years, 4 months ago
      We just sold our last lambs the other week. Got a decent price for them.
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      1. Sheep
        10 years, 4 months ago
        I know. I adopted them.
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        Efan Ekoku Pops
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Thank you for your custom. Everyone's a winner! Yay 🙂
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2. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  🙂
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3. Pulp Minion
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Baaaaaaaaa Humbug!
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skodaole2
10 years, 4 months ago
Krul (Lewis)
M.Turner, Baker, Evra (Ward, Chester)
Lampard, Ramsey, Hazard, Silva (Whittingham)
Rooney, Suarez(C), Fletcher

0 FT, 1.4 in Bank

A) Leave it as it is
B) Start either Whit or Ward ahead of Fletcher
C) Fletcher -> Soldado for a hit and (C) Soldado
D) Fletcher -> Soldado for a hit and keep (C) Suarez
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1. Fuddled FC
  10 years, 4 months ago
  If you really want Soldado, that one but not (c)
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2. Efan Ekoku Pops
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Would you not fancy Lukaku or someone instead of Soldado?
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3. skodaole2
  10 years, 4 months ago
  If i will get one over 8 it will be Soldado i have a hunch he ll get many points with the new coach
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Fuddled FC
10 years, 4 months ago
Real dilemma, I was all set to ship Lallana this week but now I'm not so sure

A) lallana > Walcott
B) Lallana > Silva
C) Stick with Lallana this week and save FT
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1. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  If u have no city coverage then A.
  
  I assume u have Ramsey
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  1. super zlatan
    10 years, 4 months ago
    *i meant B
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Efan Ekoku Pops
10 years, 4 months ago
After two weeks in grey arrow territory, I'm looking at where I could improve this lot:

Krul
Coleman / Distin / Burner
Ozil / Hazard / Ramsey / Whittingham
Suarez (c) / Rooney (vc) / Lukaku

Lewis / Morrison / Chester / Chico
£2.0M ITB, 1FT

Which transfer should I do?
A) Chico > Terry
B) Ozil > Yaya/Silva
C) Morrison > Cabaye
D) Save
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1. Something Clever
  10 years, 4 months ago
  A.
  
  And bin Whittingham for someone who's better than Whittingham.
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  1. Efan Ekoku Pops
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Whittingham is a beast! 17 points in his last two matches and due a penalty soon!
    
    He was on my bench for all of those 17 points 🙁
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2. 42 Rules
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I've got rid of Ozil myself for Silva. Have a feeling that with the W/C around the corner he could in line for some serious shipping out esp if Wenger gives him a rest.
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AK ⭐
10 years, 4 months ago
The ideal defense to have for the next 3-4 weeks?
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1. LewanGOALski
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ward/Burner rotation pair along with Arsenal, Everton coverage. ManUtd also seems to be a promising choice.
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2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
  10 years, 4 months ago
  palace / everton / norwich / cardiff / ano
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3. Davids_Semen
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Something including:
  
  Scezney
  Coleman
  Evra
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4. Sheep
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Coleman Jagielka Distin Baines
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  1. AK ⭐
    10 years, 4 months ago
    🙂
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Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
10 years, 4 months ago
does anyone use bet365 here.. i need a favour?
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Make United Great Again
10 years, 4 months ago
Anyone know much about "Everton Riberio"?

Brazilian playmaker who looks set to be joning United in Jan..
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1. NED KELLY
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Not much but seen his chip over the defender goal an volly the other day
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  1. Make United Great Again
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Ahhhh, well hopefully he address's our midfield problems. I.e adds some creativity
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Pat Bonner
10 years, 4 months ago
What rank is the leader in everyone's mini league? Mine is in top 650 and I'm 100 off the pace! Time for differentials or too early?
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1. Dr Dream
  10 years, 4 months ago
  359th
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2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
  10 years, 4 months ago
  too early.. i am 133 points behind his rank of 43K... poor season by all so far...
  
  hoping to catch up a bit over xmas and DGW's
  
  differentials will happen the last 10 GW's
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  1. Pat Bonner
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Hard not to panic! I've brought in silva and Walcott this week which no one else has in ML. Differentials but good picks as well
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Dr Dream
10 years, 4 months ago
Not a single Arsenal or Chelsea player on the ICT charts either for index, influence, threat or creativity....That must be a first...
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1. LewanGOALski
  10 years, 4 months ago
  not surprised after what I saw last night
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  1. Dr Dream
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Chelsea have turned into a right team of spoilers at times..All this back tracing lark is no good for FPL either for Chelsea players themselves or the team they come up against...
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AK ⭐
10 years, 4 months ago
Also, anyone looking to punt on any of the Spurs players? Looked very attacking against Southampton to ignore. Change of fortunes now maybe?
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1. Mílanista
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Yes, attacking setup and homes games against West Brom, Stoke and Palace in the next 4. The problem is who to get as nobody stands out. It might just have to be the £30m man.
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2. Hamstergod
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Adebayor can be a good short term punt, before he goes off the boil again
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3. LewanGOALski
  10 years, 4 months ago
  worth watching.
  
  Soton were without 3 out of 4 first choice defender. Without first choice GK and without Wanyama
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4. Sheep
  10 years, 4 months ago
  More goals at the front and back me thinks. That might not nessessarily be bad for them but at least scoring should give them confidence.
  Lamela, Adebayor and Soldado are probably the ones to get.
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  1. AK ⭐
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Adeba's a very good shout. Though I don't think I'd be able to give up any of Suarez, Rooney or Lukaku for him. Maybe Lukaku, but I even he has some decent fixtures.
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5. elkunaguero
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ade is a good punt / differential
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Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
10 years, 4 months ago
I vaguely recall hearing Distin may have picked up a knock.. Any truth in those rumours?
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1. Hamstergod
  10 years, 4 months ago
  He did, but it didn't seem serious, I'd monitor the presser.
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Hamstergod
10 years, 4 months ago
Team linked 2FTs

Consdering Shelvey, Clyne or Sterling out, who would be the best options?

I was thinking Shelvey - Whittingham or Clyne - Williamson

Januzaj looks promising but really worried about his gametime
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white lightning
10 years, 4 months ago
Do you reckon having double MU forwards will work - Suarez, Rooney, Welbeck. (Remy out, Rooney in). Thanks.
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1. Hamstergod
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Depends on the fact if you expect them to score a lot of goals.
  
  Personally I would not go that way.
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2. Mílanista
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I think Remy out, Rooney in will work. Wouldn't keep Welbeck for long but I guess he can stay until the wildcard.
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Kvelertak
10 years, 4 months ago
Merry christmas everyone!

Now, a little christmas problem, Walcott in? I really don't think he will start, but the fear of him tearing West Ham apart is almost bigger.. Will play Coutinho or Januzaj instead if i don't transfer him in.
Then again i also have Ramsey, so may gamble on benching him and putting Walcott on the pitch, one of them surely have to warm the bench?
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1. Champy
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Why wouldn't he start?
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  1. Kvelertak
    10 years, 4 months ago
    He played 90minutes last night, just have a feeling he will be one of the players rested. Only way i can see both playing is if both Arteta and Rosicky gets rested for next match. Surely Cazorla will start at least, Podolski too, but maybe he'll play up top..
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    1. Champy
      10 years, 4 months ago
      Rested? he's played twice in the last two months poor lad. He must be knackered.
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      1. Kvelertak
        10 years, 4 months ago
        I still don't think he will start all the christmas games, they have too many options for that.
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2. Blue Bombers CFC
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Ive gone for theo this week for a hit, figure it'll pay off in the long run. Reckon ozil is more likely to be rested this week
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  1. Kvelertak
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Hope you're right. Probably gonna end up doing it myself.
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    1. Blue Bombers CFC
      10 years, 4 months ago
      Go for it, could come off the bench against a tired west ham defence and bang in a couple too!
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      1. Kvelertak
        10 years, 4 months ago
        Very true. And i doubt Coutinho will do anything. One of my worst punts ever!
        Thanks
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mubin
10 years, 4 months ago
Please help guys, should I be transferring

1. Shelvey for:
a) Walcott
b) Cabaye

2. Shaw for:
a) Mertesacker
b) Coleman

Rest of the team:

Marshall Alnwick
Baker Faye Walker Shaw Jagielka
Hazard Shelvey YayaToure Ramsey Bannan
Rooney Suarez Lukaku
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1. mubin
  10 years, 4 months ago
  0FT
  3.8 ITB
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2. ABoyNamedLew
  10 years, 4 months ago
  For me:
  
  1 - a
  2 - b
  
  Hard choice the 2nd one, both have excellent fixtures but attacking points edge it for me.
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3. Hamstergod
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Mertesacker and Coleman have wonderful fixtures, so might be the better idea.
  
  Cabaye's fixtures turn bad after a while....
  
  And Walcott well another good choice could actually work looking at your team.
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4. mubin
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Thanks for the replies guys! I'll consider your advices. 🙂
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ABoyNamedLew
10 years, 4 months ago
Apologies if this has already been discussed, however I've only just seen the news from last night regarding Spurs. Is Adebayor going to be an essential asset in the coming weeks given the faith that Sherwood obviously has in him?
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1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
  10 years, 4 months ago
  yep.. but not essential
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2. Kvelertak
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Probably should be rotated a bit, but i'll keep an eye on him. Hate having Lukaku, just waiting for a better option really..
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  1. ABoyNamedLew
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Indeed, fixtures are tempting for both - next four is:
    
    Adebayor - WBA, STO, mun ,CPL
    
    Lukaku - SUN, SOU, sto, NOR
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    1. Kvelertak
      10 years, 4 months ago
      I rate Adebayor higher tbh. Unless Lukaku pulls his sh*t togheter!
      To be fair to Lukaku, he probably would have had at least one goal last match if it wasn't for their midfielders not being able to pass!
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chaim99
10 years, 4 months ago
Hi all

2 FTs this week.

Sess and Remy --->
A) Walcott and Hooper
B) Miralles and Adebayor
C) Cabaye and Soldado
D) Cabaye and Adebayor

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1. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I like D
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2. Alberto Tomba
  10 years, 4 months ago
  A or D Soldado's got famly issues atm.
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Kvelertak
10 years, 4 months ago
What is the rules of "Last Man Standing"? Is it the last X every round that gets removed, or everyone under X pts?
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1. Sheep
  10 years, 4 months ago
  TM gives a league update every 5 minutes. You can ask him then!
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Gargamel
10 years, 4 months ago
Merry Christmas everybody!

Been a good year, but hopefully spring 2014 can be a little bit kinder with FPL points than winter 2013 was. Eight year playing and it still hurts as much as ever when I do badly 😳
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1. Berbagod
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Merry Christmas Garg, and thanks heaps for the extension
  
  Berbacat
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2. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Merry Xmas Garg. Have a good one mate
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3. Sheep
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Merry Christmas Mr. Gargamel.
  
  Have you caught the smurfs yet?
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4. Christina.
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Same to you Mr Gargatron!
  
  I didn't realize you were also having a "mare".
  
  😥
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5. HVT
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Happy Xmas Garg !
  The only way is up mate !
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andres
10 years, 4 months ago
Apart from the obious (sees out) tempted to break the template shipping out rambop/hazard maybe roo?

howard (davies)
coleman merte ward (chester willliams)
hazard wally SESS rambo (jedinak)
lukaku Roo Suarez
1FT, 0.8
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1. Alberto Tomba
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Just Sess, not worth taking a hit for anyone so close to Jan WC when it looks decent
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weetonyharris
10 years, 4 months ago
Any thoughts.

Zabaletta, Hazard OUT
Coleman, Yaya IN -4 HIT

Also take another hit to get rid of Miralles and bring in Lallana.

Thanks
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1. Dago
  10 years, 4 months ago
  No
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2. Something Clever
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Not for me. As a pair, i think the former will outscore the latter in the long term.
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3. Alberto Tomba
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Zaba out on his own perhaps, Injury updates necessary though
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Dago
10 years, 4 months ago
Not worth doing Mignolet to Mannone this week is it? Both are going to score low. Save transfer? 1.9 million in bank.

Mignolet
Coleman Terry Burner
Hazard Ramsey Barkley Silva
Rooney Suarez Lukaku

Morrison Ward Rosenoir

Thanks.
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1. Alberto Tomba
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I don't think so, to Szesney or Howard perhaps?
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2. Something Clever
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Who's your other keeper?
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  1. Dago
    10 years, 4 months ago
    Harper.
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3. Dago
  10 years, 4 months ago
  Reposted on next page.
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4. super zlatan
  10 years, 4 months ago
  I would do migs > Howard.
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