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I've not much experience in it myself, It's what I've read in regards to a lot of transfers, the media will often state a buyout clause but its never actually used due to the enforcement issues, so most of the time people are told to forget about it. It's why its only really common in countries like Spain or Germany.

I genuinely can't think of a transfer where an English club has ignored an existing release clause and just negotiated as normal for an overseas player. If you're right, then this would have happened at least once.

Yes, release clauses might not be enforceable anywhere in the EU due to potential restraint of trade, but no-one has ever tested this legally.

Schalke intend the Höwedes release clause to be applicable to potential buyers in all countries, and the clause was set in the knowledge that the player's most likely destination would be the Premier League. I'm sure of that.

I'm not saying its ignored its just negotiated upon, because it isn't binding, i.e. the club who's player it is wouldn't be obligated to agree to it. If anything they're usually just a fair warning on the clubs value of a player and what it would take to prise him away.

As Geey says: 'If an automatic release amount is triggered, a club will be contractually bound to accept the amount offered.'

Bayern Munich have been very good at forcing Borussia Dortmund to sell players under these conditions. I don't see how the UK is exempt from this.

From what I've read its just he the law, I'm not sure, its just it can effect the players interests or something so its difficult to implement, its popular in Germany or Spain, but it isn't seen so much in the UK if at all, you'd have to see the contracts, but from what I know they just aren't binding so negotiations just take place as usual.

Could you at least say what it is that you've read that makes you draw this conclusion or give an example of any transfer negotiations that have proceeded like this?

Terms in a contract are legally binding. It's the legislation in the country in which the contract is drawn up that matters - overseas buying clubs need to adhere to this. See the Chris Samba transfer, this is exactly what happened.

That's what I'm saying! It isn't binding due to the UKs laws form what I've heard, there's a website called Liverpool Rumours (yeah I know rumours sounds bogey doesn't it?) when asked about buyout clauses they said it wasn't legally binding due to the laws so is difficult to enforce, hence why it isn't uses by English clubs. This was some months ago now.

This is a reputable source from what I've seen since I've followed for a few years now, very rarely wrong on something.

So you're basing all this on a Liverpool Rumours website? Wow.

Knew that would be the response, without ever checking it.

Agreed...If given as pain relief for a condition like that then their is no reasonable argument against it...Bit thay's not the same as somebody using that argument just because they want to get stoned...It's not the same thing...

Same applies to morphine btw...

In these cases I do think the situation has to be improved. The worries about marijuana are long term but with a serious illness like this they go out the window a bit. Sorry to hear it, btw Champ.

This. The problem I see with my friends is they have lost any sort of ambition. They are all getting older and have done nothing with their lives. One is suicidal as he has let life slip by. It is very sad.

A decent number of prescription drugs were tested for relief of particular problems (I'm talking mainly about anti depressants)...What nobody envisaged was doctors over prescribing them, some times for decades, and ending up adding to the problems of the person rather than helping.

Good point but when your starting point is an illegal substance the testing is greatly hindered.

Anti depressants are an interesting one because they actually aren't entirely clear on how they work. They know the different classes immediate effects but not necessarily what contributes. Some cases can even be caused by inflammation (ADs can be anti inflammatory). The second issues stems from the first, when the water is still muddy as to what drug is best for a certain patient it leads to over prescribing and regime changing, not good. But they are a rather special case, as are a number of brain influencing drugs, especially older drugs for the brain which could be quite crude. The majority of prescription drugs have their mechanisms known, while obviously cannabis has a lot left to be researched.

Yet for some of us the right anti depressant does exactly what was intended. Fixes the serotonin and norepinephrine imbalances in particular sensors in the brain that result in lives devastated if not treated

Not to mention antibiotics and all the problems with resistant bacteria that has come from overusage

You can test cannabinoids, there are many of them which will be present in marijuana. A number of labs do such research, and work is ongoing. But it's difficult, cannabis has something like 85 different cannabinoids in it or something like that, all of which can have certain effects on the body. It's hard to estimate how different people may react to one type of cannabinoid, so how they will react to numerous ones makes medical marijuana a tough thing to push through without extensive research, unfortunately.

However, they have taken certain cannabinoids from cannabis and made synthetic drugs from them which provides the benefit of that specific cannabinoid, which is certainly useful. Still, much more to be done.

Yes they do...agreed...and i have known plenty of folk who it has helped, and needed to help. The problem becomes when, as above, the original diagnosis and problem becomes compounded by an addiction to the AD...I'm not sure the medical profession has got to grips with that yet. All too often it's much easier to carry on perscribing than treating the causes of the depression (I know that may not always be possible) .

Absolutely, but they don't actually know exactly how they fix the imbalances is what I mean. They are effective drugs when the right one is used for the right case but, as many people sadly have suffered through, changing drug regimes before they find one to suit their biology, and it still isn't entirely clear as to why. So another area (as with most brain meds) that remains under intense investigation.

I get what you're saying entirely Wakey, it is a very tough situation. With something like depression, especially serious depression, it is so hard to combat addiction as you cannot take the patient off the drugs either, they are not "cured" as the cause is biological. Others can be helped in time, and obviously they need to be treated very carefully to ensure no addiction crops up.

But then I believe there are many more things contributing to this, food, exercise, society, support, medication and on and on. Suffice it to say that not nearly enough is being done for many poor folk suffering from depression.

Antibiotics is a good one Crunch, lots contributing there, including livestock!!

And yes, resistant bacteria is the bane of medicine at the moment, yet some folks don't see how serious it is.

Gonna be the end of mankind in the long run I bet.
Livestock, ground water it is virtuallh everywhere.
Many hospitals have resistant bacteria and can't get rid of them.

this is the wrong type, its super long this way - you need to join the live games section.

We can continue this way if u want

ok do you wanna paly one game this way not familiar with the site

No - go to live chess, then it auto updates etc its muuch quicker

kk

ou need to go live chess and then play but not select a game