Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – West Ham vs Sunderland

In a Gameweek that’s limited to eight fixtures due to the Capital One Cup final, West Ham United and Sunderland get us underway at Upton Park. The Irons are unbeaten on home turf since August, while the Black Cats arrive in decent form, having picked up four points in their last two league matches against Liverpool and United.

West Ham occupied the middle of the pack with regards to their attacking output over the last four Gameweeks, mustering six goals, five big chances and 17 shots on target. As for their creative spark, only three teams tallied more key passes (50) during that window. From a defensive standpoint, Slaven Bilic’s troops conceded the third-fewest shots inside the box (23) and joint-third-fewest big chances (four), which instils confidence in their clean-sheet prospects.

Given that they ranked in the bottom five for shots inside the box (25) across the past four Gameweeks, Sunderland would have been content with a five-goal haul. Despite matching up against both Manchester clubs and Liverpool in that quartet of fixtures, the Wearsiders displayed impressive resolve, charting in the bottom half for shots inside the box conceded (29) and big chances surrendered (five).

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  1. joinho
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Nice start to the gw with cs from cresswell

    1. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      yup, me too, pity no bonus pts..

  2. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Payet blanking means Arnie (C) punt gives me a bit of breathing space

    1. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      As usual, I was deciding between Payet and Arnie - obviously picked the wrong captain

      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Not if Arnie gets sent off after twenty minutes.

    2. Mr. Grv
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Hoping for a hatty

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Wouldn't suprise me with the way Villa are

    3. joinho
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I was so close to captaining Payet as well glad I didn't now

    4. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      a bit but beware of the vardy haul..

    5. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      now your arnie (c) overtook vardy,well done!

  3. Sjaugen
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Captaincy spread top 10k:

    Vardy 39.3
    Mahrez 19.4
    Payet 14.3 ops
    Kane 8.9
    Özil 3.2

    1. Mr. Grv
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      2
      2
      2
      2
      2

      1. Sjaugen
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        2
        16
        2
        2
        3

        1. Mr. Grv
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          2
          3
          2
          3
          2

        2. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          17
          8
          3
          9
          9

    2. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      that's from fpldiscovery?

      1. Sjaugen
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Correct

  4. Mark-O
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Vardy captains

    o/

    1. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      \o/

    2. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      O/

    3. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      o/

    4. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      \o/

    5. _Gunner
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      o/

    6. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      O/

    7. melvinmbabazi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      \o/

  5. Sif
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Ah well, three points up on teams with 10 men :p

    1. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Always a silver lining 🙂

  6. tm245
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    When does the second half start?

  7. Optimus.
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    A big congrats to Antonio owners whose poor team value forced their hand in choosing him over Payet

    1. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Exactly.

    2. saihtam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Why poor team value? 4.3 in the bank and team value is £103.8m

    3. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Players like Alli and Antonio make team value mean nothing

    4. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I actually made a conscious decision to go for ham rather than the alli band wagon. But it's OK to be jealous.

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Did you have cheese with it?

        1. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Yes, and some red wine

          1. Goodricke
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Red wine with ham? Surely a white such as Soave or Frascatti would have cut through the fat and complemented the salt. Red wine = Schoolboy error.

      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      You're gonna run out of hooks soon mate 🙂

      1. Optimus.
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        🙂

    5. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      that's an interesting fortunate way to play fantasy..

    6. Make United Great Again
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Sour?

    7. Arteta
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I have him instead of Alli. Just wanted someone diffent from others.

    8. Ziro Becomes One
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Casuals FTW

    9. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      well thats a bit salty

    10. Adderz
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I chose Antonio over Payet in my WC team and I have 3.5m in the bank

    11. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      More than I was expecting this time. 😆

  8. Venom Snake
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Payet to Siggy very soon

    1. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      yeah, esp with payet blank..

    2. SomewhatPleasing
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Got my eye on that

  9. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Ogbonna cs 1st sub. Cue villa goal.

    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Benching Ogbonna is a head scratcher...
      No sympathy

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I can think the community members for that one...

        1. Stats Don\'t Lie
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          *thank

  10. Ziro Becomes One
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    First time that I have been watching Coman play, he looks good.

    1. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Coman the Barbarian

  11. MagicMessi
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Thank god for not leaving armband on Payet

    1. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Can you change your grav please.

      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        🙂

      2. Venom Snake
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Sexist

  12. edison
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    now for the drinkwater show!

    1. Optimus.
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Sounds boring

      1. Jafooli
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        😛

      2. Hypnos
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        sounds essential

      3. edison
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        na, thats where the maverick touch comes in..

    2. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Thirsty?

  13. Mr. Grv
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    All the big teams play tomorrow . Nice

    1. Venom Snake
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Leicester kick off in 15 mins

      1. Mr. Grv
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Still a long way to go before they achieve the status

        1. money face bandwagon
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          still they are 1 of the best epl team right now

          1. Mr. Grv
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Can't argue with that but not a big club .

  14. edison
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    in one way for more pts and a good green but more imptly cos of the budget 5th mid..

  15. dhamphiir
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Daniels or Van Aanholt?

  16. Every Dog Has Its Day
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    I know the score for the West Ham game but I want to do the MOTD challenge! 😯

    Is it do-able or not now that I know the score?

    1. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Would take away from the challenge significantly imo

      1. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Exactly my thoughts...

    2. Ziro Becomes One
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      No can do

  17. Ziro Becomes One
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    One of my FPL rules is:

    When I miss captaining a maverick captain success by being dullard, I NEVER do the Maverick captaincy in the next week. Last week changed from Payet in the last 10 minutes and suffered. This time got lucky by not going Payet even though I really wanted to. Bullet dodged.

    Nonsense personal rules save us from ruining ourselves, imo.

    1. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      that's an interesting way to play..another is to go dullard and really study the stats!

      1. Ziro Becomes One
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Yeah, I do consider the stats, but they can never predict the future 100% so need to do some things by gut. However, I never do the gut-thing consecutive weeks irrespective of success/failure. That is my personal rule.

        1. edison
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          yeah ,pls don't, it has to be a mixture of watching the games with the stats..

  18. saihtam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Why all the hate against Antonio owners by Payet owners?

    I mean yeah, he is cheaper but has been good differential on several occasions. Payet can be very explosive but right now A has shown he is stable and works a lot on the pitch. Also it is good to have 5th mid who u can sub sometime and dont have to have that head each about picking team.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Sour grapes, when actually he's more likely to get in goal scoring positions than Payet.

      1. saihtam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        But Payet free kicks are killer...
        He didint have any free kicks this game?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I have Payet. Happy with him. Antonio still a very good pick at the price.

    2. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      It's mainly Saturday afternoon wind-ups to see who bites.

    3. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Mainly due to SOME Antonio owners bragging like little kids

  19. Twisted Saltergater
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    How on earth did Mobile Strike developers bankroll Arnie to star in their ads??!

    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      He's about £30 now. Plus a free game for his great grandchildren.

      1. Twisted Saltergater
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        I read that as "brilliant" grandchildren 🙂

        Still, it's a genius move!

  20. C_G
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Payet blank, but Collins and Creswell cleanies, not sure how I should feel.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      If you didn't captain him, then you should be happy. He was well backed.

      1. C_G
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        yep Vardy(c) here

      2. edison
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        payet wasn't sig backed, guess if you don't have 50 for this week, hard for a green..

  21. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Stoke enquired about Benteke in January. Maybe they try again in the summer. Would be good for FPL

    1. how now brown cow
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Would be good for stoke's style of play i think.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Yeah it would. I don't know if Benteke would leave Liverpool for Stoke though.

    3. Mr. Grv
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Ha , trying to offload your 2nd best striker

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Ings , Sturridge and Firmino are better

        1. Ziro Becomes One
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          I forgot Inggs is in Liverpool!!!

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            😉

        2. Hy liverpool
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          origi

        3. Mr. Grv
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Sturidge is better , can't see ings and firmino doing better than him .
          Benteke is a beast if you play to his strength and with the amount injuries he has it would bad idea to sell benteke without out to out striker

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            "To his strength" is a cliché....a bad one..he is just bad as is the cliché

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 2 months ago

              His production per 90 minutes has been the same as Aston Villa which is not good enough

              1. Eden Hazardous
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 2 months ago

                given that he stagnates possession. Firmino's production almost same but improves the players around him

      2. Wilshere Knowledge
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Sturridge, Origi and Firmino all start over him though.

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          Origi is kind of meh

          1. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Agree, but 'kind of meh' is still starting over Benteke! 😀

          2. Venom Snake
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 2 months ago

            Our best forward after Sturridge, plays his role very well

            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 2 months ago

              I don't agree

              Benteke better imo

              1. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 2 months ago

                Benteke might be better and definitely has a good scoring ratio, but doesn't fit the system. It's a clear mismatch. If we had 2 wingers flanking, then yeah Benteke is a good fit. But we don't and we won't. Much rather have Origi in this side. He's scored a few less than Benteke despite playing way less anyway.

              2. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 2 months ago

                You're wrong

      3. Venom Snake
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Origi is

    4. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      i just want him to leave

    5. Bucky Barnes
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Swap for Bojan and Arnie

    6. HNI
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      If he is regular at Liverpool then even better as his price would definitely be 8mn

  22. how now brown cow
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    I guess there will be an awful lot of autosubs and blanks in people's teams this week (I refuse to use the word casual!),

    In-progress averages won't mean a lot.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Really dislike the term "casual". Anyone who plays this game and makes transfers most weeks are entitled to do well. They don't have to be on FFS every day of the week to earn it.

      But yep, loads of auto subs this week, even captain changes - no point checking rank until the end.

      1. George Sillett
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Well said agree 100 %

    2. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      hope it doesn't affect much in the top 10k..

  23. FPLzebub
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    So nearly ditched Antonio for a hit but woke up late and wife was hogging the computer.

    1. In Like Flynn.
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      You need to sort out deadline rules out in your house. 😉

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Jammy!

    3. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      so she helped you in your game, cool!

  24. mojoindojo
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Ighalo Captains o/

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      \o/

    2. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      ighalo not cap but pls get a goal at least!

      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        1000+ bulby happen Edison! Has him at cost of Vardy!

        1. edison
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          what's bulby happen, i had vardy at the cost of aguero..

      2. juggos
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        More than one incoming!!

        1. edison
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 2 months ago

          you better hope it comes soon, i'm switching over to that game , not much time left..

  25. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Who here still has all 3 chips + wildcard?

    Don't know when I'm gonna use them

    1. edison
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      me, wait and then wait
      and then wait for the news before you pounce!

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I'll WC for GW 33, bench boost/triple captain for 34/37 DGWs, and all out attack when my fifth midfielder has a good fixture and isn't Cattermole.

  26. HNI
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Is it possible to get the average age of all signed up FFS community ?
    Guess with soo many middle age guys here It could be around 30-35 i eckon 🙂

    1. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      I'm 7 so I bring the average down a bit.

    2. Bucky Barnes
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      average age combined with rank would be interesting

      1. HNI
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Thats ageist! Moderators react 😉

  27. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Goals & assists this season:

    Antonio = 9
    Sterling = 8
    Walcott = 7
    Zaha = 7

    1. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      Hope he goes to the Euros. Forget stats, he has pace power strength and can beat a man

      1. juggos
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 2 months ago

        Agree. Really like what I've seen from him but as an Italy supporter, I hope he doesn't go :p

  28. Sjaugen
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Both Mahrez and Vardy with effective ownership over 100 %

    1. HNI
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 2 months ago

      And I dont have Vardy 🙁

  29. FortunesAlwaysHiding
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 2 months ago

    Walters nailed or at least a good pick for gwk28?