Scout Notes

Scout Notes – Pre-Season Round-up

A strong showing from Manchester United’s new £26 million man Henrikh Mkhitaryan was the highlight of a busy day of pre-season matches.

Jose Mourinho’s United bow was one of eight Saturday matches, with Chelsea and Stoke also in action.

Wigan 0 Man United 2

Manchester United defender Luke Shaw returned from a 10-month injury lay-off as Jose Mourinho’s first match in charge ended in victory at Wigan.

Left-back Shaw played the opening half against the Latics, but it was new Borussia Dortmund signing Henrikh Mkhitaryan – utilised as a number ten – who caught the eye in a fluid 4-2-3-1 United formation.

The Armenian international made his debut, as did Eric Bailly, in a side still missing a raft of stars given time off following their international exertions, most notably Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Second-half goals from Will Keane and Andreas Pereira, with Juan Mata involved in both, gave United a 2-0 win, but Mkhitaryan’s display in the first period, during which he dovetailed impressively with Memphis Depay, was the match’s main talking point.

Mourinho was certainly impressed…

“He is magnificent the way he thinks about football, he thinks very quickly and it’s so sweet how he touches the ball. He can play in different positions behind the striker. He doesn’t have the sharpness yet but his performance was very positive.”

And the United boss was equally positive about Shaw.

“I was expecting him to start the pre-season with some limitations – a little bit of weight and less sharpness. But the physical point of view is good and more than that, the mental point of view is good. The kid was great in the summer. He worked every day at the training ground to try to be ready for this.”

Man United XI: Johnstone (J.Pereira 82), Fosu-Mensah (Valencia 46), Bailly (Tuanzebe 82), Blind (Blackett 74), Shaw (Jones 46), Carrick (A.Pereira 46), Herrera (Varela 74), Lingard (Januzaj 46), Mkhitaryan (Mata 46), Memphis (Young 46), Wilson (Keane 46).

Burton Albion 3 Stoke City 0

Stoke manager Mark Hughes used 20 players as his Potters side started their pre-season campaign with a heavy defeat to Championship new boys Burton.

If the result was less than impressive, Hughes was satisfied with the work-outs he could hand to three long-term injury victims from last season, Jack Butland, Glen Johnson and Marc Wilson.

“We wanted to get Jack back for the first day of pre-season and we’ve done that. He’s been back in training for three to four weeks and he looks as good as new. It was pleasing to see Glen and Marc out there as well. Losing guys like that last season was a big blow to us but they are fit and well and looking forward to the new season.”

Hughes employed a 3-5-2 formation, with Johnson and Eric Pieters as wing-backs, though skipper Ryan Shawcross played no part in the match after complaining of stiffness in his back.

Shawcross’ continued troubles with back injuries is already a concern, then, which could raise a flag for those considering Stoke’s defence as a source of value. The switch to three centre-backs is interesting, however, and could surface at least one budget option.

Stoke City XI: Butland (Haugaard 45), Wilson (Bardsley 45), Wollscheid (Taylor 86), Muniesa (Edwards 79), Johnson (Molina 70), Lecygne, Adam (Telford 70), Imbula (Waring 63), Pieters (Choulay 70), Bojan (Shenton 63), Joselu (N’Goy 63)

Rapid Vienna 2 Chelsea 0

Antonio Conte’s first match as Chelsea coach ended in defeat, but news of the £32 million capture of Leicester midfielder N’Golo Kante would have sugared the pill for boss and fans alike.

Without a number of stars still recovering from international duty, Conte started with a 4-2-3-1 formation, employing Diego Costa as the lone striker. However, it should be noted that Ruben Loftus-Cheek was often pushed up in support of Costa in attack with Conte’s formation resembling almost a 4-2-4 at times.

Indeed, by the end of the match, Conte had switched to two up front, Nemanja Matic amd Costa making way for Bertrand Traore and Loic Remy.

With their opponents having five weeks of training and a competitive match under their belt already, it was no surprise that a sluggish second string Chelsea failed to impress – or that Kante’s signing dominated the post-match talk.

Chelsea XI: Begovic; Ivanovic, Terry, Djilobodji, Baba Rahman (Aina 45); Mikel (Chalobah 58), Matic (Traore 78); Willian (Kenedy 72), Loftus-Cheek (Oscar 45), Moses (Atsu 80); Diego Costa (Remy 72).

FC Cincinnati 0 Crystal Palace 2

A goal each for Jordon Mutch and Wilfried Zaha gave Crystal Palace their first win of pre-season, with new signing Andros Townsend again impressing.

The winger fed Zaha for the Eagles’ second goal after Mutch had reacted quickest to a Frazier Campbell slip to fire home from range in the first-half.

Palace manager Alan Pardew is still without a number of players recovering from their Euro 2016 experience, but Mile Jedinak and Yannick Bolasie have now joined up with the squad. James Tomkins sat out the match after picking up a knock in the goalless draw at Philadelphia and James McArthur is still yet to feature on the club’s North American tour.

Post-match, Pardew played down an injury to Zaha, who left the stadium on crutches, though the winger is likely to miss the Eagles’ clash against Vancouver Whitecaps on Tuesday:

“He went over on his ankle but hopefully he’ll just have a little bit of swelling on that – it might take a couple of days to go down, that’s all.”

Crystal Palace XI: McCarthy (Perntreou 76), Ward (Puncheon 59), Kelly (Dann 45), Delaney (Croll 59), Fryers, Boateng, Mutch, Sako (Townsend 45), Lee (Kaikai 73), Zaha (Berkeley-Agyepong 73), Campbell (Ladapo 45).

North Ferriby United 0 Hull City 2

Hull’s second match in 24 hours involved just one senior squad member, Ahmed Elmohamady, with manager Steve Bruce handing a debut to new Wimbledon signing Will Mannion in goal.

Hull City XI: Mannion, Clackstone, Tymon, Barkworth, Rodgers, Batty, McKenzie, Elmohamady, Olley, Bowen, Luer.

Doncaster Rovers 0 Middlesbrough 2

Middlesbrough coach Aitor Karanka again fielded entirely different teams in each half as he continued to evaluate his pre-season options.

Stewart Downing’s deflected effort opened the scoring in the first half, with Alex Pattison adding a second late on.

Karanka handed Viktor Fischer and Marten de Roon their debuts after the break, with fellow summer signings Bernardo Espinosa, Victor Valdes and Antonio Barragán travelling but not named in the squad.

The ‘Boro boss was keen to downplay the significance of his personnel choices..

“We are working hard, and have a lot of new players who weren’t here last season. For that reason, it’s difficult to train tactics – we’re thinking more about the physical side.”

Club captain Grant Leadbitter (hernia) will miss the start of the season, while Daniel Ayala has yet to shake off an ankle issue to appear in pre-season. Full-back James Husband has been ruled out for three months with a dislocated shoulder sustained in the win at York.

Middlesbrough XI First Half: Mejias; Nsue, Morris, Gibson, McGinlay, Clayton, Forshaw, Carayol, Downing, De Pena, Nugent.

Middlesbrough XI Second Half: Konstantopoulos; Halliday, Baptiste, Jackson, Friend, De Sart, De Roon, Reach, Fischer, Pattison, Rhodes.

Richmond Kickers 2 Swansea City 0

Swansea shared West Ham’s US pre-season experience when a major thunderstorm forced manager Francesco Guidolin’s side to endure a long in-match delay.

The teams were sent to their dressing rooms just before half-time, emerging 95 minutes later after the storm had finally passed.

That, and Guidolin’s decision to field entirely different sides in each half, rendered the match little more than an evaluation of fitness, although Andre Ayew was used up front in his first pre-season start, with Leroy Fer and Jay Fulton employed in midfield and Wayne Routledge, skipper on the night, in the number ten role. They were supported on the flanks by Daniel James and Mo Barrow.

Swansea City XI First half: Nordfeldt, Roberts, Naughton, Amat, Fernandez, Fer, James, Fulton, Routledge, Barrow, Ayew.

Swansea City XI Second half: Tremmel, Kingsley, Rangel, Rodon, van der Hoorn, Britton, Cork, King, Gorre, Dyer, McBurnie.

Kidderminster Harriers 1 West Brom 2

Saido Berahino bagged a brace for the club he seems determined to leave as Tony Pulis fielded a strong side against their West Midlands’ neighbours.

Berahino, who rejected a new four-year deal at the Baggies earlier in the week, was on target in each half, pouncing on a Kidderminster error for his second after being set up by striker partner Salomon Rondon in the first period.

Pulis opted to give all his starting XI a full 90 minutes against the non-league outfit.

West Brom XI: Foster; Gardner, Dawson, Fitzwater, Field; Phillips, Fletcher, Yacob, Leko; Berahino, Rondon.

Meanwhile, an Albion XI skippered by James Morrison and featuring Boaz Myhill, Sebastien Pocognoli, Rickie Lambert and Callum McManaman played a simultaneous game at Stafford Rangers. The Baggies won 2-1, with goals from Lambert and Andre Wright.

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  1. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Talks could advance significantly in time for Wijnaldum to join LFC'S USA tour. (Telegraph)

    Could be another midfielder to add to the sheet 😀

    1. The Gambler.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      First I've heard of Wij. Interesting.

    2. Jazz!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Could be a great squad addition, no European comps mean a very exciting PL season coming up for you lads 🙂

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      will liverpool offer the 27m you think?

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Not in my opinion, I think we will pay up to 22ish, remains to be seen

        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          which would be decent value if compared to valuation of other players I guess

          I just don't like how his value has increased by quite a bit even when his side was relegated

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Scored double figure goals I guess

            1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              yep, a good record last season so getting someone who at least is somewhat familiar with the pl

              1. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                we all know Premier League proven is a BS term though....

    4. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I like him, quality player. Still think we need another centre back

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Yes, I'm pretty sure we will sign one soon

    5. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      As long as he's not played on the wing & is played to where his strengths are (centrally) it could be a good bet. McLaren did him no favors playing him on the far left.

      1. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Looks like he may be Emre's partner or Firmino's back up

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          more likely Firm back up, Emre not an out and out DM

        2. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Really? He's gone on to say several times both at Newcastle & PSV his best position is as a playmaker/#10 role. Wonder how he'd fare there.

  2. The Gambler.
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    @berb can u link me your spreadsheets please?

    Anyone made a 38 week ticker yet, that they wouldnt mind sharing?

      1. chiiswaerch
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Great Work....done some further research based on your sheet...
        I compared the pl Average with the non pl Avarage by league. So for example all the players in your sheet, which moved from la liga to pl.

        Bundesliga to PL -> + 0.007
        League1 to PL -> - 0.034
        Championsship to PL -> - 0.036
        La Liga to PL -> - 0.104
        Eredivise to PL -> - 0.245

        Of course the data is not really accurate as only 3 player from Bundesliga moved to pl in your sheet and only 2 player from Eredivise to PL. But found it quite interesting and it might helps to forecast new player like Mkhitaryan or Nolito.

  3. Jazz!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Liverpool have registered an official interest in Georginio Wijnaldum and are hoping a fee can be agreed this week. (Source: Times)

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      if it's anywhere on newcastle's valuation then it's insane

      1. DGW blindness is for Kinnea…
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Andy Caroll?

    2. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Surely ruins the appeal of Mané

      1. Jazz!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Not really in my eyes

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Who's nailed if Wijnaldum comes in aswell?

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Not if Klopp sees Wijnaldum as a partner for Emre Can.

        1. Lovren an elevator
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Poor old Hendo

        2. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          can he play in a double pivot? thought he sat further forward than that?

          1. goriuanx
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            I don't know how he'd cope in a 2 to be honest

            1. djenzio
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Hendo can't cope in a 2 either....

              Can Dahoud

              that's my dream midfield pairing!

        3. Numb
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Maybe, not really his best position though.

          1. djenzio
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            yeah, I'd prefer a proper DM and a CB going into next season, still really feel that's the area we lack in.

            I want Ruben Neves or Dahoud

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Ruben Neves is going to be class, would be my no 1 choice for DM.

              1. djenzio
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                not much between him and Dahoud, Neves is maybe a little more developed.

                I am worried we won't get either.

                1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  They're completely different players also.

                  Rúben Neves is a deep lying playmaker as far as I'm aware. I don't see him play that often.
                  Mahmoud Dahoud is an advanced playmaker who spends most of his time operating on the edge of the oppositions box.

                  Xhaka
                  Johnson/Traoré/Hahn - Stindl - Dahoud - Hazard
                  Raffael

                  ^That was their most used front six last season.

  4. Zasa
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Oh how shaky & wildly disappointing Marseille have been for the last five years. From getting in the top three, six times between 06/07-12/13 (winning in 09/10). To landing a world-class manager in Bielsa & placing fourth, & him subsequently quitting before his second season, with many of his players realizing it last minute.

    Then to the present day where they're currently with an interim manager who was assistant to Bielsa & then Michel. Michel who was sacked three quarters into the season after a disastrous turn-out being placed 15th at the time, that being a by-product of weird tactical decisions & even benching their best striker Batshuayi at crucial times. Sure, taking over after losing Gignac, Payet, & Ayew Serious, three of their best players in the summer window before he took charge is no easy task. Yet, many of their transfers/loanees following that weren't that impressive either & failed to cover the gaps the trio left behind tbh, Rekik, Fletcher, Thauvin & Silva, etc all had mediocre to average campaigns.

    This window has been horrendous though, they lost Batshuayi, Nkoudou. Mandanda, DjéDjé, Mendy, & N'Koulou. Not to mention other players going back to their parent clubs. They still have Lass at least who was one of the most impressive DM's in Europe last season, & they've signed some experienced defenders (& Sakai) for little cost as a short term fix.

    In truth, Marseille's current problems lie with the board, they opened a can of worms that plague them to this day after trying to make last minute changes to Bielsa's contract. This might be one of the sharpest downturns in such a short period of time for a club I've seen for a good while. What a shame for French football as a whole 🙁

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Ayew Serious haha

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I had to Tony, I had to.

    2. TJ_777
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      All downhill after the loss of payet

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        That & the Bielsa resignation for sure. Greek tragedy in footballing terms.

  5. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Liverpool are set to sign Ragnar Klavan from Augsburg to provide defensive cover. Fee in the region of £4m for the Estonia centre back.

    1. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      have you seen much of him?

      1. The Gambler.
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I'm fairly sure nobody on here has even heard of him

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          well a lot of people watch German football and we played Augsburg in Europe, I just don't remember the guy or know if he even played....

        2. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          BT Sport cover Bundesliga very well.

        3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Isabella Müller-Reinhardt will hook you up. 😉

      2. goriuanx
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        At the latter stages of his career. Reliable and stead I'd say, good short term solution for an eventual back up

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          sounds decent.

          1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            He's fairly solid. Quite aggressive too. It would be an underwhelming signing imo. Salif Sané from Hannover 96 is better.

            1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              And has the added bonus of being able to play in midfield too. Would cost a similar fee to Klavan, maybe a couple of million more as he's their best player.

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      they would do better to sign ragnar lodbrok

  6. djenzio
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    this is what I want next season in terms of defense...

    Karius

    Clyne Sakho Kongolo Moreno

    Can Dahoud/Neves

    1. The Gambler.
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      You WANT Moreno? WTAF

      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I am being realistic, Klopp has come out and said he won't make too many changes to the core team from last season and I think Moreno is a decent player, he is still young and can improve.

        Lots of people saying we should buy Hector but if you look at the stats LFC conceded less chances down the left side than Koln and Moreno was one of the top creators of chances last season.

        A lot of Moreno's "errors" are lack of cover and people dropping back, I am not saying he is ideal but he is has potential and is good going forward.

        1. goriuanx
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Need to find the stat again, but over 70% of Moreno's defensive errors + errors leading to goals came when Dejan Lovren played LCB.

          1. the axolotl
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            harsh on lovren that, i think. moreno is very poor posititionally for a full back, it's been shown many times. but contributes a lot as an attacker. however, i think they can probably iron out some of his defensive lapses

            1. goriuanx
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Yep, Moreno has a lot of errors in his game. But it's no surprise his errors are more apparent when he Lovren covering him. Maybe another reason why Lovren was shifted to the right - Clyne requires less over.

              1. the axolotl
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                yeah perhaps, just wouldn't overly rely on the stats for stuff like that. lovren is not a great, but he improved as the season wore on. maybe they should have bought fonte instead 🙂

            2. Ruth_NZ
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Moreno is half of a great fullback. Azpilicueta is the other half. If you could get the best of both in one player they'd be world class.

              Thing is with Moreno that he's still young enough to improve.

              1. goriuanx
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                Can't disagree with this

                1. Hibbo
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  I can.

                  Offensively I don't think he's particularly good. I think one half of a great full back is a bit of a stretch imo.

                  Sure he showed as explosion imminent last season fantasy wise and got into good positions but I found him very wasteful by and large.

                  He's a real problem area for Liverpool and I'm very surprised they haven't tried to remedy it.

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Moreno is frigging useless.

    2. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      is Dahoud any good?

      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        he is already very good and extremely young, showing a lot of promise.

      2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Probably Germany's best talent (imo), but it also won't happen (imo). Not this window anyway.

        Mönchengladbach don't need to sell. They've already received a huge fee for Xhaka, as well as losing Nordtveit (who the fans loved). They've spent wisely in replacing them including promoting one of the highest rated youth players at the club. So far spent less than received on Kramer & Vestergaard, and are actually looking to spend a club record transfer fee, rather than lose their main creative spark.

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Sakho and Kongolo are both LCB'S so this wouldn't work at all.

      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I thought Kongolo can play either side?

    4. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Don't think you guys are getting Dahoud this season imo, Gladbach already sold Nordtveit & Xhaka this window. That midfield would be practically depleted.

      1. djenzio
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        They might yet buy someone though...

      2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        As it stands they're ok for midfielders but ultimately I agree.

        Dahoud, Kramer, Strobl, Ndenge.

    5. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Missed this.

      So your ideal CB pairing is 2 left footed players, one of whom is mostly a left-back? 😀

  7. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Safe to say Darmstadt 98 are screwed...

    Talented goalkeeper Christian Mathenia has already left for Hamburger SV, for a small fee. First choice centre-back Luca Caldirola has finished his loan and returned to Werder Bremen. First choice left winger and set-piece taker Konstantin Rausch has also left on a free transfer to Köln. Important central midfielder Jerôme Gondorf also looks likely to leave.

    Top scorer Sandro Wagner (14 goals, 6th highest in Bundesliga) has left for Hoffenheim, for just €2.8m....

    It gets worse. Manager Dirk Schuster - who has truly worked wonders at the club, achieving two consecutive promotions to the Bundesliga after a 33-year absence - has left for Augsburg.

    Star centre-back and club captain Aytaç Sulu - who was also the club's second highest goalscorer last season 😆 - is rumoured to be one who could potentially follow the manager.

    Feel for Lilies' fans. The situation isn't helped by the fact that the two teams promoted were SC Freiburg - who have an excellent team/manager, and RB Leipzig - who have ambition and a big budget, and have already spent around €30m.

    1. Les Bleus
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      No idea who any of those players are but that sucks if you're a supporter of that team.

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Kocka Rausch is very easily replaceable tbh. The rest are huge players though, and the manager.

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I'm still available 😉

    3. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Dear oh dear 🙁 Didn't know it was this bad. Really a pity for such huge underdogs. They didn't play beautiful football, but they were at least entertaining whenever I watched. Played like a Leverkusen-lite, high-tempo with crazier kamikaze, shot selection.

      Pity for that to happen to clubs like them & even Leicester to a lesser extent.

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Honestly think they're doomed, yet to see a single Bundesliga fan who thinks otherwise. The situation couldn't be any worse.

        Managed to stay up last season due to the spirit mostly, but next season looks to be even tougher. Everything rests on the shoulders of Marcel Heller at the moment, the only decent attacking player remaining at the club.

        1. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Hope they put up a fight, & manage to put up a good attack at least in spite of lacking their consistent target-man.

          1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Darmstadt 98 & Eintracht Frankfurt 18th/17th would be my early call.

            Watch them stay up comfortably now 😀

            1. Zasa
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Definitely putting money down on Darmstadt for 18th if their's still decent odds. They've practically lost a major part of their footballing identity. Can still pull off their kamikaze-long balls style of play? I'm not sure.

  8. roghippo
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    1 hour

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      *5 hours

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Imminent

  9. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Open yet? Its 1 : 08 am here

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      It's not definitely opening tomorrow. It's anytime this week, probably a weekday.

    2. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      season is over 3 and a half weeks away.

      1. Sillet Bang
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        don't remind me!

  10. MessiNappyTaxReturnsOfTheDa…
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I see Young Boys got spanked again tonight

    1. Guru Mediation
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      More tea vicar?

      1. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        link?

        not really

  11. goriuanx
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Goodnight all - the last Sunday night without FPL! 🙂

    1. Sillet Bang
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      woohoo

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        😯

        *Juuhuu

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Goodnight.

  12. Ayew Serious
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Just 30 minutes until we can start tinkering

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Tinker a way my friend.

    2. Coaly
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      i thought it was going to be Tuesday?

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Probably a 1 in 5 chance of Tuesday.

    3. Sillet Bang
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Wishful tinking

  13. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Just watched the theory of everything which was a really good film.

    But there were a few moments where I couldn't help thinking of this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zc0LrzoZHE

    1. oghash
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I enjoyed it

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Definitely. Really good and sad and uplifting at the same time as well

  14. Just A Hat
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Jesus Christ, went to start watching The Shield and they've gone and taken it off Netflix

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Have you a Chromecast?

      1. Just A Hat
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Nah, I use my PS4

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      the shield was one of my favs

  15. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Have you an Android device and smart TV?

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Reply fail to JAH.

    2. Just A Hat
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      nah 🙁 just a standard, how come?

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        I use android apps downloaded through Facebook Movie HD or Cartoon HD to watch films and shows and cast them to my screen using another app AllCast.

        1. Bielsa's Blue Bucket
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          How does that work dude? Can I stream live to the telly from mobdro, for example

  16. djenzio
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    sad news about Demba Ba

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I can't watch the video it makes me want to throw up.

  17. Norman Conquest
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    matip looks like he is going to take a while to be fully fit i liked the look of him as well

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      shame

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        i sense a hint of sarcasm there lol

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          it's in his username.

        2. UnitedFan
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          🙂

  18. MonkeyButler
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    The 3 prices I'm keen to see - messrs Baines, Mane and Townsend
    Is it ambitious to hope for 5.5, 8.5, 7.5?

    1. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      wouldn't go near Baines or Townsend.

      Mane should be 8.5, hopefully 8.

      1. Just A Hat
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        What if Baines was back on pens?

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          why would he be? wasn't even on a lot of FKs last season.

          1. Just A Hat
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            not sure

      2. MonkeyButler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Mane @8 and he's straight in

    2. Däzzy
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Certainly not ambitious to hope townsend is 7.5

  19. Zasa
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone seen Stranger Things on Netflix yet? Supposed to be a callback to 80's films ala Spielberg, King, & Carpenter (Super 8 most recently), revolving around a group of kids trying to solve a weird mystery regarding their missing friend.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWxyRG_tckY

    1. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      no but I am dying to see it

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, same. Only bad thing I've heard so far is that the writing can be a bit dull & 'on the nose'. Hope it's good.

        1. djenzio
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          it ticks the boxes for all the things I like and just finished Horace & Peat, GoT and Orange is the New Black so looking to start a new show.

          1. Zasa
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Wow, completely forgot about Horace & Pete! Need to get on that. Have you seen The Night Of, Mr Robot or The Americans by any chance? Great TV if you're into mystery/crime thrillers

    2. Norman Conquest
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      i want to start watching that but just started animal kingdom and the night of i will be getting divorced if i take another show on

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Good man 🙂 The Night Of's pilot was fantastic. Looking forward to how they tackle on the rest of the show

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          i only started watching it today because people in here were chatting about it (thank you guys)i have to catalogue all my shows using an app called track series as i currently have 46 on the go

  20. Arctic monkeys
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    It's 18/07

    Juuhuu.

  21. Rodgers's CHARACTER
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    The count down for FPL opening has "officially" started

    1. djenzio
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      pretty sure it started the day the season ended to be fair

      1. Sillet Bang
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        That's true

  22. Norman Conquest
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    just wondering if anyone else uses this strategy i just never seem to have a defender as captain or my captain playing away from home plenty in my ml will though

    1. Sillet Bang
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Couldn't bring myself to capt a defender

    2. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I never usually cap a defender either. Only did it once and it was in the season before last (my 1st and noob season). It didn't work. In terms of captain being away, it depends on the player. For example, Kun is fixture-proof.

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        just cant bring myself to captain away players either regardless of the fixture i might have to grow bigger balls to improve my rank

        1. MrMaverick
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Home/Away thing is a myth.

    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I have been playing this game a while now and I I cannot remember any time I have ever captained a defender

    • 8 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I want D. Gray to play an important role for Leicester next season, superb talent. Hopefully he will earn a place in the starting XI with some great pre-season performances, would love to see him playing in the Champions League. This lad has a bright future ahead of him and can be the only Leicester player I will touch in FPL. And might be around 5.5m in FPL...

    1. Arctic monkeys
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Just read an article about him. He could have a much bigger role this year both for his club and in term of fpl, especially if players start to leave Leicester.

        • 8 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Mahrez linked with Chelsea... Rumours saying he rejected a recent contract offer from Leicester...

    2. TJ_777
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I saw him play two games last year. Looks like Memphis when Memphis played in the Netherlands. Will have a hard time with musa mahrez and albrighton in the team tho

  23. melvinmbabazi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Hiting F5..............

    1. MonkeyButler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Won't be until 8am at least

    2. Kane Toads
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I'm in Australia - GMT +8....a long wait here as the day begins and its 7.37am...

  24. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Bastardised Balders ticker based upon bookies odds. Now I can work out my 5 way defensive rotation!

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Red and green look mixed up down the bottom.

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Good point!

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Thanks TM. I accidentally deleted that bit and was obviously a little careless with it on repetition

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              What odds are CPL?

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                751-1 in decimals

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  But I will amend the odds to make it clearer thanks

      2. Now I'm Panicking
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Triple Arsenal from GW18 to 23 🙂

  25. MrMaverick
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    There's nothing worse than having to chase bees/flies/wasps across a room

    1. Miss Thing
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Try a badminton racket, they're light and very effective at range

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Or try a grenade. Works quite well.

        1. MrMaverick
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          1 down, 2 to go

          1. Miss Thing
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Minus points for bees (they're our friends)

    2. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I've had this mosquito in my room for weeks now. He's immune to Febreeze which is my only line of defense.

      I just accept the bites now.

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Have you started peace negotiations?

        1. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          He's holding my favorite cup for ransom, I have no leverage.

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Does it have family?

            1. Zasa
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              One step ahead of you, Cheese. Already brought a female mosquito in my room so they can mate. Then I can hold his family hostage.

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                Although you need to hope he hasn't go a very specialised skillset Taken style

                1. Zasa
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  I've come prepared, I can counter his Taken with my Live Free Die Harder: Part 2.

                  1. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    Unfortunately the mosquito watched Hostel.

                    1. Zasa
                      • 9 Years
                      7 years, 9 months ago

                      That's alright, I can just put on an Adam Sandler movie marathon. That should do.

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        Ok. That should do it.

                        But which Adam Sandler film is the worst of his may awful efforts?

                      2. oghash
                        • 8 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        I quite liked his most recent one, the do overs

                      3. Zasa
                        • 9 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        I think Jack & Jill is categorized under horror/thriller, so that one

                      4. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        That was my thinking.

                      5. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        Thing is I like him in general. I know he has better films in him but I haven't seen that one so I live in hope

                2. Miss Thing
                  • 10 Years
                  7 years, 9 months ago

                  Did you mean Takin style The national animal is the Takin (Burdorcastaxicolor) that is associated with religious history and mythology. It is a very rare mammal with a thick neck and short muscular legs

                  1. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    No. I obviously meant Takon style.

                    Takon is an arrondissement in the Plateau department of Benin. It is an administrative division under the jurisdiction of the commune of Sakété. According to the population census conducted by the Institut National de la Statistique Benin on February 15, 2002, the arrondissement had a total population of 10,424.

                  2. Zasa
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    Why would he talk about Tom Cruise?

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 9 months ago

                      Just being Maverick I guess

      2. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        You need some killer spray. You're just making him smell nice.

        Spray it with Lynx Africa, that'll really annoy it. Nobody enjoys smelling like the back-end of a donkey.

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          They know how to deal with mosquito's in Africa

        2. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          I'm buying my flight to Africa as we speak. This b**ch won't know what's coming 😎

        3. Miss Thing
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Nah spray it with Blue Stratos... the only thing that kills mosquitos and removes the smell of cat pee at the same time

    3. MrMaverick
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Update: 2 down, 1 to go

  26. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Premier League predicted season points (based on the mid-point of the season point spread betting market)

    Man C 76
    Man U 75
    Arsenal 71
    Chelsea 71
    Liverpool 68
    Spurs 67
    Leicester 56
    West Ham 54
    Everton 54
    Southampton 52
    Stoke 44
    Bournemouth 44
    Palace 44
    Swansea 42
    Sunderland 41
    West Brom 41
    Watford 40
    Middlesbrough 38
    Hull 36
    Burnley 35

    1. Busterroo
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Looks about right eh.

  27. Epic Fail
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    I saw the new Ghostbusters earlier, I thought it was pretty decent for what it is. Not sure why all the hate.

    1. Zasa
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Think people just didn't like the fact that the female cast didn't have d**cks.

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Did the male cast?

        1. Zasa
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          Can't say for sure, would have to re-watch.

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Can you be certain the female cast did not?

        2. Miss Thing
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 9 months ago

          No they had d*cks. It's very rare to see d**cks.

          1. Cheeseoid
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 9 months ago

            Just wondering what d**cks is. d*cks is obvious mind

            1. Miss Thing
              • 10 Years
              7 years, 9 months ago

              Hard to explain but once you've seen one you'll never forget

              1. Cheeseoid
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                lol

                  1. Zasa
                    • 9 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    So that's where Daniel's been then. Double D Daniel checks out.

                  2. Cheeseoid
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    7 years, 9 months ago

                    Zoiks!

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      7 years, 9 months ago

                      The funny thing is this gets me thinking of another recent reboot. Total Recall and the Prossie with 3 norks

                    2. Miss Thing
                      • 10 Years
                      7 years, 9 months ago

                      I think you mean z**iks

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        7 years, 9 months ago

                        Depends which version of Scooby Doo you are watching

              2. Zasa
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 9 months ago

                Once you go d**cks, you never go back

    2. The Nuttman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      I think part of the hate is a disliking of rebooting everything for a cash grab. I don't hate the new film myself as I have not seen it, but I thought the second was rubbish and I'm a pessimist so I don't expect it to be good.

    3. Frank Black
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 9 months ago

      Saw it too, horrible PC stunt. They have to stop forcing all this PC garbage down people's throats and understand that you don't have to use something a lot of people care about to make BS statements. If you want to make a movie with female protagonists just create something new and made for them.

      1. Zasa
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 9 months ago

        Curious, what'd you think about Star Wars: TFA?

  28. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 9 months ago

    Mods. Are we allowed to talk about FanDuel?