Dugout Discussion

The Dugout Discussion – Everton vs Manchester United

After Liverpool’s second-half collapse in a seven-goal thriller at the Vitality Stadium, we now make our way to Goodison Park as Everton entertain Manchester United in the 4pm kick-off.

With five goals in as many outings across all competitions, Zlatan Ibrahimovic carries the hopes of many Fantasy managers heading into this one.

Up against a defence with one clean sheet in nine, the Red Devils’ frontman was the second most captained player in Gameweek 14 with just over 13.1% of Fantasy Premier League managers handing him the armband.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Anthony Martial are rewarded with starts after both excelled in the midweek cup win against West Ham.

The Toffees recent downturn in form saw over 231,000 FPL managers part company with Romelu Lukaku last week alone – only Philippe Coutinho was subject to more transfers out ahead yesterday’s deadline.

Now down to 9.5 in price, the big Belgian has netted just once in the last five Gameweeks compared to six goals in his first seven appearances.

Nonetheless, with United managing just two shut-outs in the previous 10 league matches, Ronald Koeman’s side will be optimistic of getting back amongst the goals today.

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  1. Joggers Nipple
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Post game transfers are at a mental rate this year it seems?

    Fiminio currently 3rd fastest out at rate per hour http://www.fantasyfootballfix.com/price/

    1. the axolotl
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      nice, i'll probably be buying him next week

    2. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      He is worth keeping next week surely?

      I suppose people with four man mids are getting rid of firmino and walcott to get Hazard/sanchez

      1. Camp No No
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        ^This. I can't understand why anybody would transfer him out before he hosts the sad team that West Ham is now!

    3. b✪mber
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I don't care for Firmino - unless injured he's a season keeper for me (had him from the start). Been watching all Pool games since I loaded 3 of them (5-6GWs ago) and I like how he's performed so far. Today he didn't look good, but that's just 1 game - I don't see a reason to sell (not yet).

      1. Atimis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        *third game

        1. b✪mber
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I actually don't think he was bad in the 2 games before this, he just didn't get any points on the board, but was involved and had possessions in good spots - I'd say unlucky.

          1. Atimis
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah. Would agree about Soton game

  2. -SB-
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Matic > Emre Can?

    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      for free and no other issues? Yes

  3. Dr Dream
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Amazed to see Baines take that pen. Are they sharing or is it back to him now?...

    1. Epic Fail
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      The Chuckle Brothers?

      1. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        To me.....

        1. Joggers Nipple
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          to you ( duck the ladder)

    2. Pasqualinho
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Didn't he take the last one? IIRC he hit the post but it went in off the keeper?

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Ahhh of course. I remember that one now. People were discussing whether the manager would class it as a missed pen, as technically it was.

      2. Dr Dream
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I can't remember if Lukaku has had one since then. Or maybe Baines was injured.

        I've lost track a bit.

        1. Bazzalona
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Lukaku hasn't taken a pen this season. He missed one against West ham last season (Adrian saved it) then De Gea saved one in the FA Cup semi.
          Don't think he'll be on them for a while if ever

          1. Pete Campbell
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            lukaku isnt even 2nd on the list, barkley is. Baines has been designated taker since RM got sacked.

  4. Vasty Deep
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    • 12 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Is Ake nailed on for next couple of games??

    1. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm assuming so.

      1. JIM BOB
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Isn't Daniels back soon?

  5. AFC49
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Fuchs out for a -8?

  6. BB-8
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Evans or Holebas out for Alonso?

    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Holebas ( owner here!)

    2. Flynny
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Snap...see below....weird....no Idea!

      1. BB-8
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Leaning towards selling Holebas and playing Amat atm

    3. Parm
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I'm selling Evans for him I think.

      1. BB-8
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Feels wrong to sell him after this week. Swans next too

        1. Parm
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Meh, Alonso is great for Xmas, him and Cédric +1.

          1. BB-8
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            He's deffo coming in. Just a question of for whom. Cedric next gw maybe.

  7. Flynny
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Which of the following do I ship for alonso for a hit?

    If I ship holebas I have to play aMat (Sunderland home) next game week.

    Evans
    Pieters
    Holebas

    Thanks

  8. liiusions
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 4 months ago

    Foster Jaku
    Cedric Holebas Evans Pieters Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Siggy Capoue
    Kane Costa Austin
    0.9 ITB

    Best way to get Alonso in? Can't figure it out without losing one of the big hitters

    1. Joggers Nipple
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Only way is losing Siigy or Firm and unsure if that wise or not

    2. Deano
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Capoue to De Roon

      Evans to Alonso

    3. Jay_
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Foster to Pickford. Holebas or Evans to Alonso. Easy. Foster is a waste of money anyway.

      • Game of Throw_ins
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Downgrade Capoue to some 4.2-4.3m mid. Then holebas to Alonso.

      • Parm
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly the same situation except I have money ITB and Zaha over Sigurdsson. How much do you want Alonso, more than Siggy?

        1. liiusions
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I probably want Alonso more but not sure about any options that are cheaper than Siggy

      • KUNingas
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Capoue -> 4.2 and Holebas -> Alonso? Not enough cash?

      • liiusions
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers for all the replies but I should have mentioned I'm 0.1 short of doing Cap->De Roon or Holebas->3.9 to fund it

    4. ljuta zena
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Finaly decent gameweek, 81 points.
      But def problem for gw 15:
      Pickford, De Gea;
      Walker, Amat, PvA, Simpson, Brunt;
      Sanchez, Allen, Matic, Walcott, Firmino;
      Kane, Costa, Anichebe.
      Did ft Aguero to Costa. Thinking about upgrade Allen and play AOA. But maybe Simps to Alonso for hit?
      Suggestions, fellows?

    5. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      top priority.. Alonso or Kane?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Kane

        1. Deano
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Alonso LT, Kane ST.

          1. TorresMagic™
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            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Kane (c) Alonso not (c)

            1. Deano
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Exactly

      2. Pete Campbell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Kane

    6. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Either of the following done enough today to keep their places?

      Martial
      Mkhi

      1. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        No, wait for them to have played together consistently and learnt to connect.

      2. JIM BOB
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I wish I knew the answer to this question.

        I'm tempted to punt on Mkhityran for one of my draft leagues, but I need someone to play regularly

    7. Winks Club
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      A: Redmond --> 9.1 (Eriksen / Firmino / other) for -4
      B: Pieters --> Alonso for -4
      C: No hits

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        A

      2. JIM BOB
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Redmond has MID, B for me

        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          He just had Palace.

          1. JIM BOB
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Away, though. I prefer his chances at home

            1. TorresMagic™
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              • 14 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              Pool player gets West Ham at home.

              1. Winks Club
                • 8 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Do you think Firmino is better in this case than Eriksen?

        2. Winks Club
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yep, but he just seems unable to score

      3. Sweetboi
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        A

      4. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for help all!

    8. Elijah's Wood
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Heaton
      Alonso Clyne PVA
      Sanchez Hazard Firmino Siggy
      Kane Austin Anichebe

      // Pickford Allen Amat Evans

      1FT, £4.1m banked

      A) Austin (MID) > Costa
      B) save FT and be priced out if Costa rises a second time with an eye to make the move with 2 transfers (using Austin's last good home fixture)

      1. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Perhaps upgrade Ani for someone? or Allen

    9. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Leon Osman put it well when talking about Fellini while doing pundit work for Sky Sports

      When he was asked are you surprised about that challenge he said no and went on to say

      When he played with us we always wanted him as far away from our box as possible

    10. Pocky
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Was so sure of doing Allen to Fer this week...but it's gotta be Can instead...right???

      1. Sweetboi
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Yep

        1. Deano
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Just going from one point chase to another speculator whilst wasting transfers!

          1. Pocky
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            So you'd keep Allen would you!!!!

            1. Deano
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              No, downgrade Allen to De Roon and upgrade elsewhere.

      2. Monkey Hanger
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Allen still managed a couple of SOT, in the little time he was on. Not finished yet imo.

        1. Pocky
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Maybe, but fixtures suck....and not 100% nailed to start next week either.

    11. Fred54
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Mised most of the game, see it finished 1-1 with nobody scorers and nobody assisters.

      1. the axolotl
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        zlatan being called a nobody? he won't like that

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Sir Leighton would be more annoyed at your comment than Fred's.

          1. the axolotl
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            touche. how the mighty have fallen.

      2. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        My cat captained Zlatan.

        Careful.

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          They say you should always follow your cat.

    12. John wick
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Guys already on minus-8...how does it look for gw15

      Grant
      Chambers amat smith
      Sanchez hazard siggu capoue
      Kane ibra costa

      Subs zieler Mcauley martina deroon

      1. Sweetboi
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        You need to upgrade your defence and 4th mid in the future...but g2g for this week.

        1. John wick
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Dont have funds to upgrade any defence with heavy hitters in front

    13. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      KDB and Diomande to
      Nacho and Alli + bench headache?
      Or bite the bullet on Big KDB downdgrade and Diomande to Kane
      Second move is 352 to 343

      1. MaRooney 5
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Kane

      2. Bruno Bruno!!
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        KDB could be highest scorer next GW

        1. Camp No No
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          So could Watmore.

      3. Deano
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        KDB or Sterling could play a false 9. Do you trust Pep?

      4. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks for replies mixed bunch. Might hold as city fixture are better this week. And go for it week after even if it costs another .3 at least.

    14. MaRooney 5
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      What to do with this mess:

      Picky, Jak,
      Alonso, Kosc, Holebas, Williams, Smith
      Allen, Firmino, Haz, Wally, De Roon
      Deeney, Kane, Costa

      0 FT 2.8m ITB

      Thanks in advance!

      1. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Allen's time is over, can you afford Eriksen? If not then Siggy.

        Then maybe think about taking Wally out for perhaps Eriksen.

    15. The Left Duke #3
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Random question but why the hell is Benteke the only guy on FPL who has his first name with his name i.e. Christian Benteke above his jersey?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        He isn't the only guy.

        1. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Ya there's Callum Wilson etc. Had no idea Benteke had a bro with Palace though. Ah well, curiosity satisfied

        2. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Explain the two Smiths so TM? Confusing eh?

      2. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cos his brother Jonathan also play for palace....

        1. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Oh really, wow didn't know this. Cheers

      3. Totally Hammered
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'd imagine it's because his brother Jonathan is also in the squad... could have gone C.Benteke I guess..

      4. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        As well as the answers above, you need to also look at Callum Wilson (and the other Wilson, who's name escapes me...)

        1. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Explain the two Smiths for Bournemouth who are DFs too. Zero differentiation between the two

        2. TorresMagic™
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          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Marc

      5. redbeard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        But for some reason they didnt do the same for the adam smith & brad smith

        1. The Left Duke #3
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Spot on

      6. redbeard
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Or steve cook & lewis cook

      7. bojack
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Because of his brother.

    16. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Do you think that Walker will play both games against Burnley and Hull at home? 4 days between the games

      1. Demí
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I guess because there's two Benteke's in the game

        1. Demí
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          reply fail 😳

          HG, yes i reckon he will

          1. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            😀

      2. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        50/50

      3. Winks Club
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I think he won't. Trippier is a decent deputy for Walker

    17. MQ
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      I know this might be late but who else are playing out of position?
      Alonso, Brunt, Sanchez, Milner... who else?

      Cheers!

      1. svasei - Up (?) the Rovers
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Aguero reverse oop.

        1. Deano
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Siggy, Walters.

      2. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        To be honest. A midfield of Sanchez, Firmino, Hazard and Siggy are all playing up front.

        1. MQ
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah, the Liverpool trio, along with Hazard & Pedro too... and Gylfi... who else? I feel someone has fallen out of my radar...

    18. Monkey Hanger
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      3 GW's in 7 days next week. Xmas come early.

      1. bojack
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Can't wait, and for once I have an alright bench 🙂

    19. Jönny
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Evening chaps, what happened to Mane? Chuffed with his points, but could do without an injury...

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Cramp, knock, didn't fancy it.

        He'll be fine for next week don't worry for a minute.

        1. Jönny
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Good good! Thanks 🙂

    20. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      So we're all taking Firmino out when he's home to West Ham next are we?

      Okay then. Woe is you...

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        No, not me.

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I might captain him next week. Everyone will be Sanchez or Chelsea but playing very good defences.

      2. Bleach †
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Who we? Highly unreasonable to ditch a player after one bad game

      3. Partick Bateman
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Don't see the point in getting rid myself. Still going to get and create chances, it's not like he's doing a Lukaku.

      4. BadgersBoys
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'm keeping, just. Although he is seriously p*ssing me off. I have Fuchs though who I'm venting more anger at this GW 🙁

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Bombed him for Alonso last night! Absolute waste of space!

          1. BadgersBoys
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            Done the same!

      5. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        If he blanks in that I don't see any problem in getting in Eriksen for free.

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          That's a valid move, but not now!?

          1. Fred54
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            No, not now.

        2. Pocky
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Eriksen;s following 2 fixtures may warrant that move anyway, regardless of Firminho's performance v WHam

      6. Je suis le chat
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Look at his output last 3 weeks. He's not cutting it.

      7. bojack
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Nope he's staying where he is in my side.

    21. fedolefan
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Guys, what are we doing with this midfield? Nothing in the bank. 1FT.

      Mane Firmino Wally Siggy
      Kane Kun Austin

      A) Kun to Costa
      B) Kun & Firmino/Mane to Costa & KDB
      C) Kun & Wally to Kelechi & Sanchez

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Just A

        1. fedolefan
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks.

      2. Partick Bateman
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        A. And then consider B later this week.

    22. Partick Bateman
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Coming in from the lurk...

      3m to sort out defence for a hit, worth it with fixtures?

      Hernandez (MCI) to Alonso (WBA)
      McAuley (che)
      Amat (SUN)
      Pieters (ars)
      Holebas (EVE)

    23. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Is there any top striker in world football who looks as bad as lukaku when he's not on it? Just so, so poor today it was untrue.

      Although still better than Pogba.

      1. Epic Fail
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Benteke

        1. Bleach †
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Not a top striker though 😀

      2. Pasqualinho
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        I'd say the chubby no.10 from Man Utd also runs him close.

        1. The Hindu Monkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          I said top striker...

          1. Deano
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 4 months ago

            The tall slow hold up striker is now a thing of the past. The best PL teams are following the hockey tactic of high pressing to cause midfield turnovers and counter attacks.

            1. FALCAO & MOU
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 4 months ago

              That is why Firmino is so sexy.

              1. Deano
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 4 months ago

                Was, not now without his mate Phil.

    24. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen or Siggy?
      Already got Kane!

      1. Fred54
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Eriksen.

      2. EmreCan Hustle
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Siggy

      3. BadgersBoys
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        mahoosive No

        1. BadgersBoys
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Apologies, Eriksen.

      4. GS456
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        siggy

    25. Monkey Hanger
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 4 months ago

      Seems TotalFPL has finally died. Can anyone confirm this?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 14 Years
        7 years, 4 months ago

        Aguero red card broke it.

        1. Monkey Hanger
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 4 months ago

          Is it finished?