Opinion

The Knee Jerk – Gameweek 22

A day for differentials.

Liverpool’s Roberto Firmino and West Bromwich Albion’s Gareth McAuley are the only two players with more than 10% ownership to hit double-digits.

Firmino was teetering on the edge prior to the today’s deadline – owned by just over 456,000 FPL managers or 10.6% – the Brazilian had shed 340,000 since Gameweek 16.

Such losses are understandable, sparked by a dismal run of paltry returns. A single goal over ten barren Gameweeks – his strike in a 4-1 victory over Stoke City – did little to stem a tide of rejection. With Sadio Mane and Adam Lallana thriving, Firmino owners were switching allegiance or looking elsewhere as rival heavy-hitters delivered.

Today’s 14-points will reverse matters, for now at least. That fifth double-figure haul for Firmino ironically arrived on a day that saw Philippe Coutinho make a return to the Liverpool starting line-up. Withdrawn on 65 minutes, his comeback was curtailed as he gave way to allow his compatriot to take centre-stage.

While his two goals were not enough to save Liverpool from defeat, Firmino’s own Fantasy stock is revived, just as thousands were making or considering the move for his Brazilian team-mate.

But Coutinho’s early withdrawal has already proved enough to give some early adopters the jitters. Meanwhile, after suffering a third successive blank, Lallana has now returned just a single goal and an assist in six starts.

Based on early transfer activity, both are facing ownership losses over the extended gap to Gameweek 23, with this shifting affection from one Liverpool asset to another typical of behaviour this season.

Two prolonged spells of form from Coutinho’s and Lallana have come close to resolving the argument but, in truth, we look unlikely to ever settle on one of Klopp’s midfield as a dependable “solution”.

Perhaps the key question should be whether we should overlook them altogether.

Two draws and a defeat has stalled the Liverpool title bid, while over the last four Gameweeks, their attacking numbers are settled in mid-table. They face Chelsea next.

Sadio Mane’s absence appears to be a key factor and, arguably, until his return, we should reserve judgement, regardless of Firmino’s flurry.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. AFC49
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    What's the site to check how far you're away from a specific rank?

      1. AFC49
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers mate

      2. BananaNose Maldonado
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        I forgot about this site. This is great. Cheers!

        I really need a Chelsea failure tomorrow to stay in the top 5K. Not good. (Admitted humblebrag.)

  2. BRKFCTrueRover
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    It's funny old game 2 gws ago I was a +400k rank and languishing I'm now 109k

    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Cream rises to the top

    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Excellent work.

      A red arrow for me so far 251 to 260k but I'm happy with that as Ibra was most captained and I still have Sanchez (c) to come.

      Would be nice to get another green to keep the rise going

    3. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      What transfer did you do to make the jump?

      1. BRKFCTrueRover
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Just kept faith with carrol, kane and alonso, lallana to Ali and are to baines so they didn't make much difference

    4. BRKFCTrueRover
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah good luck guys! Still got san(c)hez, alonso to go

    5. jason_ni
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      I started of well this season, but slipped to 970k by gw 12.. have had good run since, mostly greens and with updated position tonight sit at 57k.. not a bad 10 week turnaround!

  3. HuttonDressedasLahm
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 3 months ago

    Highest rank ever of 584th!!

    #pressure

    1. Business Cat
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      • 9 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Nice 🙂

      Who paid off for you today?

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Eriksen to Firmino FT
        McAuley
        Smith
        Alli

        1. Business Cat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          You bought IN Firmino for Eriksen!? That's maverick to say the least!!

    2. andy85wsm
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      • 13 Years
      7 years, 3 months ago

      Nice work!

    3. Epic Fail
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      • 13 Years
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      You haven't got a bad history either.

      Should be rising nicely up the HOF if you care about that. Which I don't, but you might.

      1. HuttonDressedasLahm
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Ruined by one year when I got bored and went with silly captains etc

    4. Jay_
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Amazing. Love the Firm tranny, that's the kind of move that's gets you places (up or down) Well done

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Firm tranny? 😀

          1. Jay_
              7 years, 3 months ago

              The kind of move that's gets you to the clinic 😀

          2. HuttonDressedasLahm
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Thanks all

            1. HuttonDressedasLahm
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Weirdly though, I don't feel like I've had any great GW or great (c) pick

        2. Arn De Gothia
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I temporarly rose to 474

        3. Halftime
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          • 12 Years
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          Well done

      • andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Doesn't sound like Toby's injury is serious. That really would be a big blow to Spurs.

        1. Syd.
          • 14 Years
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          Hamsting could be out for 4 weeks

          1. internal error
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            • 11 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Taken off as a precaution

            1. how now brown cow
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Got 10 days layoff. Could easily sit out next 2 if push came to shove.

          2. andy85wsm
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            • 13 Years
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            Felt tight apparently but wanted to come off before it snapped - https://twitter.com/HLNinEngeland/status/822921238981070848

      • Squires FC
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Defoe --> ? 0.4 itb

        1. frenchfries
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Why?

          1. Squires FC
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Tough fixtures. Carroll only other option worth having it seems. Might hold.

            1. frenchfries
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Defoe can score against any team imo

              1. Squires FC
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                True but is he going to get the supply in those upcoming fixtures? I got pts to make up in my ml too

      • liiusions
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        With Toby + Vert seemingly injured is Everton defence a better option than Spurs? Was planning on getting Rose in this week now I'm not so sure

        1. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I wouldn't bother
          I'm considering selling now

          1. liiusions
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Rose? Who for?

      • Rolls-Royce
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Barclay has very good stats, worth a shout for an Everton attacker if you don't have Lukaku?

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          5 shots today. Im thinking about getting him

        2. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I prefer Lloyds.

          1. THFC4LIFE
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            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Ffs loooool

        3. andy85wsm
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          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          I just can't go there again.

          Then again I have Mirallas...

        4. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Am affraid the media have built him into something he can't live upto

      • frenchfries
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Foster
        McAuley Jones Alonso
        Sanchez Firmino Eriksen Phillips
        Zlatan Defoe Giroud

        Jakupovic Capoue Ake Amat

        Not sure what to do with next, any suggestions?

        2 ft, 2.1m itb

        1. Bun Rab
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Amat to Holgate?

          1. frenchfries
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Worth a transfer? is he even nailed?

            1. Bun Rab
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Playing more often than Amat. Keeping cleanies. Worse case scenario he's 3rd on bench like Amat.

              1. frenchfries
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                true, ill consider it

      • rainy
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        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Who do you reckon wins?

        Me: Heaton, Alonso +13

        Him: Cech, Hazard

        1. Epic Fail
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          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Not sure. Ask me tomorrow night.

          1. rainy
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            😛

        2. Ha.
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          If you don't win I'll write you a poem

          1. rainy
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            Bookmarked

        3. Bun Rab
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          • 11 Years
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          Me.

      • Big_Bear
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Just Hazard (c) and Sanchez and Giroud left. Should I hold my OR or will I fall?

        1. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Depends what points they get.

          1. Jake Donahue
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            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Haha this

          2. Sergeant Garcia
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            You're on a roll mister 😀

            1. Big_Bear
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              I know it's a bit of idiotic question. Apologies

        2. HuttonDressedasLahm
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Depends if Arsenal or Chelsea keep a CS

      • Jake Donahue
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Weeks like this highlight patience more than ever, 4 points will be huge this week

        1. Big_Bear
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Zero hits this season. Lets hope patience pays off!

          1. Sergeant Garcia
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            If it didn't pay off already, you're screwed...

            1. Big_Bear
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Hmm its difficult to define "Paid Off". OR is 40k and I'm 3rd, 20 points behind the leader on cash mini league out of 30 players.

              So it's not perfect but I'm not out of it.

        2. Epic Fail
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Such a weird week. My week has someone how been saved by Fletcher of all people.

          1. Jake Donahue
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Appears when you need him most

      • BucketHead
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Ageuro and giroud out for Kane and Costa or lukaku??

        1. andy85wsm
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          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Why are you getting rid of Giroud?

          1. BucketHead
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Was my planned move for this week now not so sure..maybe I should hold and just do kun to Kane? Have joe Allen to deal with too

        2. Bun Rab
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          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Wait until tm. Otherwise Lukaku, better short term fixtures.

        3. _Freddo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Why would you consider selling Giroud before he's played Burnley for Lukaku who blanked in an 'easy fixture' when Giroud has better fixtures?

      • andy85wsm
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        • 13 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        2 BPs for Phil Jones was....unexpected.

        1. Jake Donahue
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          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          ....... Welcomed with open arms

        2. frenchfries
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          this

        3. Hooky
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          How many bps per gurn?

        4. Sweetboi
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Gotta love it...annoying how they conceded as well.

      • RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Should be OK...

        You:
        Heaton 3
        Alonso 6-9
        +13
        = 22-25

        Him:
        Cech 6
        Hazard 10-15
        = 16-21

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Failed reply to RAINY 🙂

      • Viper
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Up to 7k after 55 today.

        Hopefully Hazard (c), Sanchez & Alonso can keep me there 🙂

        1. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Great score this week, and could be a monster with those three

        2. Big_Bear
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Top banana!

      • mgrea
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Foster
        Clyne Kos TonyV
        Alex

        1. mgrea
          • 12 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Fail, like my team

      • Kevin Twine
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        • 12 Years
        7 years, 3 months ago

        Providing Sanchez and Hazard do well tomorrow with no injuries etc, any early thoughts on this bunch? I haven't got a clue on potential moves apart from like Grant -> Foster or something

        Grant
        Rose, McCauley, Smith
        Sanchez, Hazard, Eriksen, Phillips
        Ibra, Kane, Carroll

        (Jak, Pieters, Holebas, 4.2m mid fodder)

        2 FT's, £0.5m in the bank

        1. MTPockets
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Looks fine. Time to bin Holebas?

            1. Kevin Twine
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              • 12 Years
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              Yeah I was thinking that but benching McCauley ornSmitj doesn't really seem logical with their fixtures.

          • Arn De Gothia
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Carrol and fodder -> fodder and Alli?

            1. Kevin Twine
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              • 12 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Mmm not a bad idea actually.

              1. Kevin Twine
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Actually, I definitely can't afford to do that move, lol.

          • Big_Bear
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Strong team. If you didnt have 2 ft I'd save.

            Who is the 4.2m bench fodder? Change to Fletcher, Schneiderlin (this would be my choice), Carroll or T.Davies

            1. Kevin Twine
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              I would indeed.

              I think sorting out my 5th mid bench fodder is probably the last move I'd make but thanks for the suggestion anyway.

          • Kevin Twine
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Cheers, folks.

        2. Heavy Data
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Im thinking of doing Kane->Costa and Stanislas->Alli for next week. Is it worth the -4

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            No

          2. Boyd to Sven
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            I would rather have Kane that Costa.

          3. Bun Rab
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            No. Too sideways for me.

        3. JustPark
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          32 with 4 to go left. Good? Bad? Or just average?

          1. Viper
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Slightly above average maybe

          2. Epic Fail
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            The average is 25...

          3. Arn De Gothia
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Om on 31 with haz, alonsa, Alexis and GRU so avarege i guess

        4. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          2 assists from lanzini today. Excelling in Payets absence. Anyone tempted?

          1. Sergeant Garcia
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Yesss

          2. Heavy Data
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Yes

          3. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Yes! Deffo now

          4. Boyd to Sven
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            On my list to replace Lallana.

            1. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Same

          5. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Wow. Good shout.

            1. We Will Klopp you
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Definitely

        5. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Any ideas on this motley lot?

          Hazard out? Who to?
          Lallana out? Who?
          Go to 3-4-3? 4-4-3 perhaps?

          2ft, 1.6itb.

          Heaton
          Alonso / Baines / McAuley
          Sanchez / Hazard / Eriksen / Lallana / Phillips
          Ibrahimovic / Defoe

          Jakupovic / Friend / Pieters / Diamonde

          1ft, 1.6itb.

        6. We Will Klopp you
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Team is:
          Heaton (Grant)
          Brunt Rose Baines Chambers (Alonso)
          Stanislas Phillips (S)anchez Alli (Fraser)
          Kane Ibra (Defoe)

          A) Coleman in for Chambers
          B) Tom Davies in for Fraser

          (433/532)

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            C. Fraser to Lanzini

        7. Boyd to Sven
          • 9 Years
          7 years, 3 months ago

          Rondon and Evans to Kane and Brunt (-4) is a no brainer right?

          1. Syd.
            • 14 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Yes

          2. Kevin Twine
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            It should probably pay off long term. Maybe in the gameweek, tbf.

          3. Chenku╰☆╮
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            do you 6 m in the bank?

            1. Boyd to Sven
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              5 million after swapping Kun for Lukaku this week.

          4. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 8 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Wow! Easy moves!!!

          5. Bun Rab
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Yep.

          6. We Will Klopp you
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Oui

            1. Boyd to Sven
              • 9 Years
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              Thanks all. Thought that was the way to go so I'm all set.

          7. MTPockets
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Affordable?

              1. Boyd to Sven
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Yeah, I've got 5 ITB so had planned on getting Kane but now want Brunt too so think it's worth spending the extra if I've got it.

          8. zaydon
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Evans to ?? Ft

            I already have foster
            0.1 itb
            He will drop tonight

            1. Royal5
              • 12 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Keep surely.

          9. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Sell Friend or Pieters?

            1. Syd.
              • 14 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Friend

              1. HVT
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Because he's crap or could be dropped?

          10. Niemi
            • 9 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            12 from 7. Worst gameweek this year. Was ranked at 1800 before this GW, need a miracle to stay inside top 3k now.

            1. Jake Donahue
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Anybody left?

            2. Epic Fail
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Down to 4k now.

              1. Niemi
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                That wasn't so bad. Could actually get back inside top 2k if Sanchez(C)/Hazard/Alonso explodes tomorrow.

          11. HVT
            • 13 Years
            7 years, 3 months ago

            Who would you prioritise in?

            A - Goalman
            B Bruntinho
            C - Baines
            D - McCauley
            E - Jones

            Thanks

            1. Bun Rab
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              A or C. Take your pick.

            2. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              C

            3. We Will Klopp you
              • 7 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              B, A/C, D, E

              1. We Will Klopp you
                • 7 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Sorry, that is the order in which I would pick them

            4. MTPockets
                7 years, 3 months ago

                b

            5. Drip Doctor
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Best Lallana replacement for around 10m? Currently thinking Ozil or Pedro.

              1. Sergeant Garcia
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Lanzini earns a shout too. Would you be doubling up with Ozil or Pedro?

            6. Sergeant Garcia
              • 9 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Looking for a Holebas replacement: Jones or Funes Mori?

              1. Drip Doctor
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Funes Mori. Form and fixtures. Better goal threat too.

                1. Bun Rab
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  +1

                2. Sergeant Garcia
                  • 9 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Cheers!

            7. Epic Fail
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              7 years, 3 months ago

              Why does FPL usually go to your own team the first time you click on someone elses team? Illuminati? Demel? Boselli?

              1. TorresMagic™
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                • 14 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                FPL site issues.

              2. Hy liverpool
                • 10 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Auto log in and that will work normally

              3. Epic Fail
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Cheers fellas. Illuminati it is.

              4. internal error
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                Wow. You suck at fpl

                1. internal error
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  7 years, 3 months ago

                  Wait, thats my score

              5. fedolefan
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 3 months ago

                How much did Ville Ronka score then?